Mark,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:14 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/1/21 6:25 PM, steve lund wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >>
> >> So it seems the notices are being sent and delivered to your spam
> >> folder. You will need to regularly check that folder for these messages,
> >> or you MAY (I'm not an expert on this) be able to create a filter in
> >> Gmail to deliver them to some other folder, assuming Gmail filters trump
> >> `spam`. For purposes of filtering, these messages are
> >>
> >> From: mailman@
> >> To: -owner@
> >> Subject: Bounce action notification
> >>
> >
> > Previously, i.e. 6 months ago I was getting these notifications just fine
> > through my Gmail account. This tells me that the list config is correct.
> I
> > can't explain why these went from no bounce notifications only
> unsubscribe
> > to now being sent to SPAM folder. Seems like Google is mucking about with
> > its filters!
>
>
> Probably so, but you can't control that. It may have to do with the
> specific content of the notices or not. You could try setting up a gmail
> filter on some of the above the put the message in another folder, or
> just check your spam folder often.
>
>
> >> If I had to guess though, the next most likely thing after DMARC is the
> >> sending server was blacklisted by some recipient domains.
> >>
> >
> > This is what I was afraid of. Is there any way of confirming or denying
> > that this is happening. ISP guy complained about having to tell Yahoo the
> > mail server was a mail list and not SPAM. This would tell me that it was
> a
> > blacklist problem.
> >
> > So how does an ISP keep their mail server OFF of the SPAM blacklist?
>
>
> This is all up to the ISP. They can see in their mail logs if they are
> being blocked and if they are competent, they will notice that and do
> whatever need to be done to get the blocks removed.
>
Episodes like this last one make me question their competency.
> The only thing you can do is report to the ISP if you get a bounce
> notice that indicated the sending IP is blocked.
>
What does this message typically look like? I don't recall seeing "IP is
blocked" in bounce messages.
> I suggest you ensure that all the notifications including
> bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment are set to Yes and monitor your
> spam folder so you will at least be aware of any issue before user's
> delivery is disabled
>
This option is set correctly. I'll keep checking my SPAM folder.
Thanks,
Steve
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