[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space

2020-11-09 Thread Tom Corcoran
Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are
used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids
activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for
utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill.

I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is:
https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg

Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails
and.or pdf newsletters.

I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help?
There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the
options, etc.

It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case
and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think
it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution
is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no
option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a
little bizarre and silly imho.

Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the
emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?

Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have
not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far
as I can see.

As always, thanks for yer paitence.

Tom.
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[Mailman-Users] Don't moderate any senders from a specific domain

2020-11-09 Thread Andy Cravens
I have a list running on Mailman 2.1.26.  For this list I want everybody 
moderated except for people who’s email address is from a specific domain.  Is 
there a way to specify a domain that will bypass moderation?  What I plan on 
doing right now is to manually check or uncheck the “mod” checkbox for all 
individual subscribers as needed.  The problem is that manual intervention is 
required to make sure new subscriptions are configured with the correct “mod” 
setting.  I want to avoid the manual intervention.   Under the Sender Filters 
section there is a setting for Non-member filters that allows you to specify a 
regex for accept_these_nonmembers.  There is no such regex for members to 
automatically accept their posts.  If there were such an option I would set 
emergency moderation of the list and then set the regex for the desired domain. 
 Unless I can find a place to set a regex for a domain to automatically accept 
posts from members, I will stick to manually setting the “mod” checkbox for all 
members.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space

2020-11-09 Thread Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
Frankly, using ANY mailing list to do this simple task is overkill.

You can have gmail filter and forward these emails instead.  They go to
*your* gmail account, the filter matches it and forwards it to your wife's
email account.

You can set up a single filter based on a "TO" address.  This is the
address that you give to the schools, etc.  This email address could be
boardtc+w...@gmail.com as anything after + in a gmail account is
automatically sent to the username before the +.
Set the filter to automatically forward anything to that address and you're
good to go.


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:25 AM Tom Corcoran  wrote:

> Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are
> used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids
> activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for
> utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill.
>
> I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is:
> https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg
>
> Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails
> and.or pdf newsletters.
>
> I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help?
> There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the
> options, etc.
>
> It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case
> and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think
> it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution
> is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no
> option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a
> little bizarre and silly imho.
>
> Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the
> emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
>
> Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have
> not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far
> as I can see.
>
> As always, thanks for yer paitence.
>
> Tom.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Don't moderate any senders from a specific domain

2020-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/9/20 9:54 AM, Andy Cravens wrote:
> Unless I can find a place to set a regex for a domain to automatically accept 
> posts from members, I will stick to manually setting the “mod” checkbox for 
> all members.


There is no such setting. If you have the ability to patch the code,
it's a two line patch:

--- Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py2018-06-17 23:47:34 +
+++ Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py2020-11-10 04:24:49 +
@@ -63,6 +63,8 @@
 else:
 sender = None
 if sender:
+if re.search('your_regex', sender):
+return
 # If the member's moderation flag is on, then perform the
moderation
 # action.
 if mlist.getMemberOption(sender, mm_cfg.Moderate):



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[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space

2020-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
> 
> I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help?
> There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the
> options, etc.


It helps because if the list is digestable, the plain text digest is
created and non-plain text attachments are scrubbed and stored in the
archive even if there are no digest recipients. The way to avoid this
scrubbing and storing aside of attachments from the digest is to set
Digest options -> digestible to No. If the list is not digestable,
digests won't be created.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space

2020-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
> 
> Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the
> emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?

As I indicate in my prior replies, just set

Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigest = No
Digest options -> digestable = No
Archiving Options -> archive = No

and nothing will be stored in the archive.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Don't moderate any senders from a specific domain

2020-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/9/20 9:54 AM, Andy Cravens wrote:
> If there were such an option I would set emergency moderation of the list and 
> then set the regex for the desired domain.  Unless I can find a place to set 
> a regex for a domain to automatically accept posts from members, I will stick 
> to manually setting the “mod” checkbox for all members.

If you do install the patch I sent in my prior reply, it won't work to
set emergency moderation because emergency moderation will hold all but
pre-approved messages without doing other checks. You would need a
different patch to Mailman/Handlers/Emergency.py.

With the patch I provided, you'd need to set Privacy options... ->
Sender filters -> default_member_moderation = Yes and then set all
current members moderated via Membership Management... -> Membership
List -> Additional Member Tasks


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello good people,

Which of the many HOWTOs online is the recommended one for integrating
Captcha with mailman-2.1.34?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-09 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn



Am 10.11.20 um 08:00 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:

Hello good people,

Which of the many HOWTOs online is the recommended one for integrating
Captcha with mailman-2.1.34?


We use the new text cased Captcha feature:

# Use a custom question-answer CAPTCHA to protect against subscription spam.
# Has no effect unless SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET is set.
# Should be set to a dict mapping language keys to a list of pairs
# of questions and regexes for the answers, e.g.
# CAPTCHAS = {
#   'en': [
# ('What is two times six?', '(12|twelve)'),
# ('What is this mailing list software called?', '[Mm]ailman'),
#   ],
#   'de': [
# ('Was ist 3 mal 6?', '(18|achtzehn)'),
#   ],
# }
# The regular expression must match the full string, i.e., it is implicitly
# acting as if it had "^" in the beginning and "$" at the end.
# An 'en' key must be present and is used as fall-back if there are no
# questions for the currently set language.


Just uncomment that and add your question/answer pairs.
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