[Mailman-Users] One mailing list is unable to receive mail from user.

2020-06-17 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Dear list,

One mailman mailing list can not receive mail from user and
/var/log/mailman/vette shows "Message discarded," as follows.

---/var/log/mailman/vette:
Jun 04 14:17:37 2020 (1238) Message discarded, msgid:  <
ty2pr01mb4779856244...@ty2pr01mb4779.xxx.xxx.com>

The failed mail shows an 'x-beenthere' header in it like below.

errors-to: x...@list.co.jp
list-id: 
x-beenthere: x...@list.co.jp   <---This is the mailing list where mail
from user can not be sent.

The 'x-beenthere' header looks to be the reason why the problematic mailing
list fails to receive mail from user, but I have no idea in what kind of
situation we get 'x-beenthere' header in mail.

Does anyone in the list have any idea to describe why the mailing list is
unavailable to receive mail and what makes us get an 'x-beenthere' header?

Thanks,
Masaharu
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[Mailman-Users] One mailing list is unable to receive mail from user.

2020-06-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Masaharu Kawada writes:

 > The failed mail shows an 'x-beenthere' header in it like below.

 > The 'x-beenthere' header looks to be the reason why the problematic
 > mailing list fails to receive mail from user, but I have no idea in
 > what kind of situation we get 'x-beenthere' header in mail.

That means either that (1) the message has previously been
successfully posted to the list (not necessarily by that user), and
the user is resending the message "as is" to the list (some MUAs call
this "forward" or "bounce"), or (2) something very odd is happening.

(1) might happen if the post is, say, a FAQ or introduction to the
list and the user wants to post it on a regular basis.  "Resending" to
the list might seem like an easy way to do it, but will fail because
of the x-beenthere header.

I have no idea why case (2) would happen, except as a bad joke by
somebody who understands mail and Mailman quite well.

 > Does anyone in the list have any idea to describe why the mailing
 > list is unavailable to receive mail?

As you suspected, the x-beenthere field will prevent that list from
receiving that post.  It needs to be removed from the message before
resending.

If the situation I described above is what it happening, the best
solution is simple: make a template message, and copy that into a new
message each time.

If the sender really likes the forward method, I don't recommend it,
but they can CC themselves, then delete the mailing list post from the
folder where they keep such form messages when it arrives.  The user's
personal CC copy won't go through the list, and it won't have the
x-beenthere field, so can be resent "as is" as many times as you like.

Steve
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[Mailman-Users] Scrubber: filename too long

2020-06-17 Thread tlhackque via Mailman-Users
>From /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests, I'm seeing this - which is the
result of an annoying webbug URL in some (actually important) inbound
messages.

I guess one approach would be for the filename name to be simply the
sha-xxx of the generated name...not being a Python person, what's the
best way to solve this?


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 142, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 324, in 
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 301, in process
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 506, in 
save_attachment
fp = open(path, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long: 
'/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/sb-notices/attachments/20200617/7bfd746c/openupnuTyAIB5RnlGqcUYpxASzOCjK0U2XEEfdN09lb80k8EAccOT3iskue1a45bqJenPWT4XeDAj9c-2FnJ-2F1UfxwtikwjXfVn4FKSvPvMQ4-2F-2BnoeZraMSMf1dLwio-2FiUT1wYNZx4eF1A5j8DF1-2FMAhxu72-2BX1pzdJx1CWDywpoyPVWKwluqE4AyFhrreaxc8kYpHZaUFUlP3MPFmNEDQ5Tr-2Bg-2BJRAhSYLdif3kj8rKn-2FDEhbw-3D.gif'

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[Mailman-Users] Setting a moderator password

2020-06-17 Thread Bernie Cosell
I'm trying to set a moderator password for my list and I seem to be doing 
something wrong:  I went into "Passwords" entered the moderator password 
both times and 'submitted' it and I get "Authorization failed" when I tried to 
use 
it.   What did I forget to do?   Do moderators log in on a different login 
screen 
than the normal one or something?

Note that I don't need a "moderator" email address [we're preparing for 
moderators in emergency moderation] but I added one anyway and it didn't help

  /Bernie\
Bernie Cosell
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Setting a moderator password

2020-06-17 Thread Brian Carpenter

On 6/17/20 6:40 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:

  Do moderators log in on a different login screen
than the normal one or something?


Instead of admin use admindb

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[Mailman-Users] Re: One mailing list is unable to receive mail from user.

2020-06-17 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Steve-san,

I very much appreciate you giving me such well-explained information.

That was a BIG help!

Thanks,
Masaharu

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:25 PM Stephen J. Turnbull <
turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:

> Masaharu Kawada writes:
>
>  > The failed mail shows an 'x-beenthere' header in it like below.
>
>  > The 'x-beenthere' header looks to be the reason why the problematic
>  > mailing list fails to receive mail from user, but I have no idea in
>  > what kind of situation we get 'x-beenthere' header in mail.
>
> That means either that (1) the message has previously been
> successfully posted to the list (not necessarily by that user), and
> the user is resending the message "as is" to the list (some MUAs call
> this "forward" or "bounce"), or (2) something very odd is happening.
>
> (1) might happen if the post is, say, a FAQ or introduction to the
> list and the user wants to post it on a regular basis.  "Resending" to
> the list might seem like an easy way to do it, but will fail because
> of the x-beenthere header.
>
> I have no idea why case (2) would happen, except as a bad joke by
> somebody who understands mail and Mailman quite well.
>
>  > Does anyone in the list have any idea to describe why the mailing
>  > list is unavailable to receive mail?
>
> As you suspected, the x-beenthere field will prevent that list from
> receiving that post.  It needs to be removed from the message before
> resending.
>
> If the situation I described above is what it happening, the best
> solution is simple: make a template message, and copy that into a new
> message each time.
>
> If the sender really likes the forward method, I don't recommend it,
> but they can CC themselves, then delete the mailing list post from the
> folder where they keep such form messages when it arrives.  The user's
> personal CC copy won't go through the list, and it won't have the
> x-beenthere field, so can be resent "as is" as many times as you like.
>
> Steve
>
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