[Mailman-Users] Re: Trouble migrating

2020-04-29 Thread Lothar Schilling 

Am 27.04.2020 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Sapiro:

On 4/26/20 11:04 PM, Lothar Schilling wrote:

ps -fwwA | grep qrunner

mailman   7439  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7440  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7441  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7442  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7443  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7444  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7445  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7446  7438  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7468  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7469  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7470  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7471  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7472  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7473  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7474  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman   7475  7467  0 07:51 ?    00:00:00 /usr/bin/python
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

This may be a separate issue, but you have two Mailman instances
running. See  for how this can happen
and what to do about it.
You're right: There were two mailman instances running simultaneously. I 
doubt, though, that this was the reason for the migration going wrong. 
But I'll give try again next weekend and then come back to you - if 
needed. Thank you.

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[Mailman-Users] Getting full From not via

2020-04-29 Thread Ben Edwards 
Hi, we have a list server with several lists and the setup  seems 
different on some and not sure how to fix this.


The problem is on some lists some people are not getting the names of 
the people who send emails (in thunderbird).  Looking at the source the 
lists that are showing the names have this in the source.


From: "Ben Edwards (CUBE)"

But the ones that are not have this in the source.

From: "Ben Edwards \(CUBE\) via lighting"

So how do I setup mailman so the email address, rather than list name 
and via, are in the From field?

Regards,

Ben


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Getting full From not via

2020-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 4/29/20 6:52 AM, Ben Edwards wrote:
> Hi, we have a list server with several lists and the setup  seems
> different on some and not sure how to fix this.
> 
> The problem is on some lists some people are not getting the names of
> the people who send emails (in thunderbird).  Looking at the source the
> lists that are showing the names have this in the source.


First of all, MUAs have their own ideas of what to display as From, and
Mailman has little control over that.


> From: "Ben Edwards (CUBE)"


This is a message to which a DMARC mitigation has not been applied.


> But the ones that are not have this in the source.
> 
> From: "Ben Edwards \(CUBE\) via lighting"


and this is a message to which a DMARC Munge From mitigation has been
applied.


> So how do I setup mailman so the email address, rather than list name
> and via, are in the From field?

The Mailman settings that control this are General Options ->
from_is_list and Privacy options... -> Sender filters ->
dmarc_moderation_action.

Setting General Options -> from_is_list to Munge From will make this
transformation to every message. We recommend setting this to No and
setting Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> dmarc_moderation_action
to Munge From which will apply this transformation only to messages
From: a domain that publishes a DMARC policy of reject or, if
dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action is Yes (also recommended), quarantine.

See  and
 for more on Mailman and DMARC.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: List migrated to Mailman 3

2020-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 4/28/20 6:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> This list, mailman-users@python.org has been migrated to Mailman 3.
> 
> There are still some issues in importing the archives that I'm working
> through, but the list itself should be fine.

As of last night, the archive import is complete and the HyperKitty
search index built so there is now a complete searchable archive at


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[Mailman-Users] Re: some mailman interface links are http:// instead https://..

2020-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 4/14/20 12:13 AM, Knut Krüger via Mailman-Users wrote:
> version 2.1.23  Debian
> Stretch
> 
> There are some pages of the administration interface which are using
> http:// instead of https://


Sorry for not responding earlier. This got buried in my inbox. It seems
you need to see the article at  and do
both steps 2 and 3.

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