Re: [Mailman-Users] Internationalizing administrative aliases

2018-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 5/12/18 11:40 PM, Rubeno Fernández wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'd like to know whether it's possible to internationalize addresses for list 
> control, like mylist-owner, mylist-subscribe, mylist-unsubscribe...
> 
> I tried editing the file /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases and then running /usr/
> lib/mailman/bin/genaliases, but it doesn't work, even after restarting the 
> server the default addresses are still the only ones valid. I should add that 
> the new addresses had only ASCII characters.


The above doesn't work because running /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases
will rebuild /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases and undo all your changes.
What you need to run after editing /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases is

postalias /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases

to rebuild the /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db file, but this is
fragile because running genaliases or equivalent at any time in the
future will again undo your changes.

You need to make a second set, e.g., /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases2 and
/usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases2.db with the same ownership and
permissions as the existing ones, perhaps by

cd /usr/lib/mailman/data/
cp -a aliases aliases2
cp -a aliases.db aliases2.db

make your changes to aliases2 and run 'postalias aliases2' to update
aliases2.db and then add hash:/usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases2 to your
Postfix config.

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[Mailman-Users] new user

2018-05-13 Thread Phillip Waters 
I have three separate domains all hosted by the same company. I created 
a private mailing list for one of my domains as a test to try and see if 
it was something I could use. Turn out it is something I want to use. I 
deleted that list and tried to start over.

However, On the main page for Cpanel it shows the list is still there:

Mailing Lists 


1 / ∞

When in fact it isn't. I want to re-create that list with the same name, 
however, when I tried to create the list again I get the following 
error:


Failed to create the mailing list “d...@xx.org”: The requested mailing 
list address, “d...@xx.org”, conflicts with the forwarder 
“d...@xx.org   
”. To create a mailing list named 
“d...@xx.org”, you must first delete the forwarder that conflicts with 
that name. 


My problem is I can't find where it is being forwarded. Can someone help 
me figure out where my problem lies? No forwards are listed anywhere 
that I can see.


Thanks in advance,

Phillip
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new user

2018-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 5/12/18 3:32 AM, Phillip Waters wrote:
> I have three separate domains all hosted by the same company. I created
> a private mailing list for one of my domains as a test to try and see if
> it was something I could use. Turn out it is something I want to use. I
> deleted that list and tried to start over.


How did you delete it?


> However, On the main page for Cpanel it shows the list is still there:
> 
> Mailing Lists
> 
> 
> 1 / ∞
> 
> When in fact it isn't. I want to re-create that list with the same name,


This seems to be a cPanel issue. Please see
.


> however, when I tried to create the list again I get the following error:
> 
> Failed to create the mailing list “d...@xx.org”: The requested mailing
> list address, “d...@xx.org”, conflicts with the forwarder
> “d...@xx.org  
> ”. To create a mailing list named
> “d...@xx.org”, you must first delete the forwarder that conflicts with
> that name. 
> 
> My problem is I can't find where it is being forwarded. Can someone help
> me figure out where my problem lies? No forwards are listed anywhere
> that I can see.


cPanel typically uses Exim which uses 'routers'.

If you have access to the file sistem, look in the directory
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/. If there is a d4_gaafg.org
(or is it dist4_gaafg.org) sub-directory, remove it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey 
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote Sun, 13 May 2018 05:39:27 +0900
> Dimitri Maziuk writes:
>  > On 05/11/2018 04:55 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>  > ...
>  > 
>  > I think the basic inconvenient truth is nobody's going to come after you
>  > unless you have money to pay the settlement.
> 
> I think the basic inconvenient truth is that *some*body *will* come

It could have been clearer to have omitted my name Julian S. from above,
as I did not write any quoted text as such.

No direct text from me, just a later 6 word contraction from my
Message-id: <201805112155.w4blt2cw082...@fire.js.berklix.net>
smaller lists, run Free by Unpaid
volunteers
to Dimitri M.'s
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"smaller lists run by Unpaid Volunteers"
to Stephen T's
> I expect the impact on "smaller lists run by Unpaid Volunteers" to

Cheers,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new user

2018-05-13 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users 
Hello Phillip Waters. On Sat, 12 May 2018 10:32:06 +, you wrote:

> I deleted that list and tried to start over.
> However, On the main page for Cpanel it shows the list is still there:
> 
> Mailing Lists 
> 
> 1 / ∞

Mh - without you telling us your credentials for cPanel, we won't be able to 
see anything there... :-)

> Failed to create the mailing list “d...@xx.org”: The requested 
> mailing list address, “d...@xx.org”, conflicts with the forwarder 
> “d...@xx.org   
> ”. To create a mailing list named “
> d...@xx.org”, you must first delete the forwarder that conflicts 
> with that name. 

The forwarders are "mail address aliases", which you can set up (or delete) in 
the second icon of cPanel's "Email" section. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] new user

2018-05-13 Thread Phillip Waters 
There is an option within cpanel to delete a mailing list. I selected 
it, it asked if I was sure, I said yes and it was gone.


-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Sapiro" 
To: mailman-users@python.org
Sent: 5/13/2018 8:52:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] new user


On 5/12/18 3:32 AM, Phillip Waters wrote:
I have three separate domains all hosted by the same company. I 
created
a private mailing list for one of my domains as a test to try and see 
if
it was something I could use. Turn out it is something I want to use. 
I

deleted that list and tried to start over.



How did you delete it?



However, On the main page for Cpanel it shows the list is still there:

Mailing Lists


1 / ∞

When in fact it isn't. I want to re-create that list with the same 
name,



This seems to be a cPanel issue. Please see
.


however, when I tried to create the list again I get the following 
error:


Failed to create the mailing list “d...@xx.org”: The requested 
mailing

list address, “d...@xx.org”, conflicts with the forwarder
“d...@xx.org  
”. To create a mailing list named
“d...@xx.org”, you must first delete the forwarder that conflicts 
with

that name. 

My problem is I can't find where it is being forwarded. Can someone 
help

me figure out where my problem lies? No forwards are listed anywhere
that I can see.



cPanel typically uses Exim which uses 'routers'.

If you have access to the file sistem, look in the directory
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/. If there is a d4_gaafg.org
(or is it dist4_gaafg.org) sub-directory, remove it.

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