[Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!

2018-05-06 Thread Jayson Smith

Hi,


This is a weird one. I think of myself as knowing my way around Mailman 
pretty well for a user/admin/installer/upgrader. I'm upgrading to a 
Debian 9 system from CentOS 6.5. Debian's Apache configs took a bit of 
getting used to, but I actually like them better. It uses Apache 2.4.2.


I wanted to install Mailman from source, since the latest version is 
2.1.26, Debian has 2.1.23, and IIRC that's too old to have some screen 
reader optimizations I want. So I built, installed, all working well. I 
copied over the Mailman config from my CentOS system to use in Apache, 
making some changes so it'd work under 2.4.2. Here it is:






#
#  httpd configuration settings for use with mailman.
#

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/

    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI
    Require all granted



Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/

    Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
    AllowOverride None
    Require all granted
    AddDefaultCharset Off


# Uncomment the following line, to redirect queries to /mailman to the
# listinfo page (recommended).

# RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo




The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to 
http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says 
/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to 
/mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page 
saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the 
server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me, 
with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache 
2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI 
scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something 
else changed between Apache versions?



Thanks,


Jayson


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!

2018-05-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/06/2018 07:16 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
> 
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
> 
>     AllowOverride None
>     Options ExecCGI
>     Require all granted
> 


This looks correct.


> The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to
> http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says
> /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to
> /mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page
> saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the
> server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me,
> with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache
> 2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI
> scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something
> else changed between Apache versions?


Is Suexec enabled? That could explain it. If that isn't it, are the
various compiled wrappers in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ all in Mailman's
group (probably 'mailman' if you installed from source, but Debian likes
'list') and permissions like -rwxr-sr-x (o+x is I think the important
one here).

And are there any other Directory blocks in the apache config for /,
/usr, /usr/lib or /usr/lib/mailman?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!

2018-05-06 Thread Jayson Smith

Hello,

Okay, now I feel like a total dummy. No, Suexec wasn't enabled as far as 
I can tell. Yes, the CGI scripts are owned by mailman:mailman. Yes, the 
permissions are correct. So what was the problem, you ask.


It seems that by default, Debian's Apache install doesn't enable the CGI 
module. Somehow, it sort of works better if you enable CGI. It works 
better if you plug it in.


Head…desk. I'd spent hours trying to troubleshoot this! Sometimes the 
most obvious things escape the best of us.


Thanks anyway.

Jayson

On 5/6/2018 11:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 05/06/2018 07:16 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/

     AllowOverride None
     Options ExecCGI
     Require all granted



This looks correct.



The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to
http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says
/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to
/mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page
saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the
server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me,
with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache
2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI
scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something
else changed between Apache versions?


Is Suexec enabled? That could explain it. If that isn't it, are the
various compiled wrappers in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ all in Mailman's
group (probably 'mailman' if you installed from source, but Debian likes
'list') and permissions like -rwxr-sr-x (o+x is I think the important
one here).

And are there any other Directory blocks in the apache config for /,
/usr, /usr/lib or /usr/lib/mailman?



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