[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Nov-05

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Muhammet, Ruyaince, Patrick, Sascha, Heiko,
Listen only: Steve, Rivan, Rizal
Comments: Adolfo, Stuart, Cor, Maxim et al.

Tickets/Topic

 * LibreOffice Impress Template Contest by the Indonesian Community
   + https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2020/msg00122.html
   + we should remove some when adding new
   + drop (sorted): Impress, Sunset, Lush Green, Alizarin, Bright Blue,
 Classy Red (Heiko)
   + keep number low is a good idea (Muhammet)
   => create ticket and continue discussion there

 * Rename "Track Changes" under "View" to "Tracked Changes"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137808
   + "Tracked Changes" is an advantage (Adolfo)
   + do we need the two commands anyway? (Sascha)
 + yes, it was introduced as this to make all users happy (Heiko)
 + makes sense (Muhammet, Patrick)
 + irritating to have two menu items; would remove one (Sascha)
   => go with "Show Tracked Changes" (for View > TC) (Patrick votes here)

 * TOOLBAR: New image toolbar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87362
   + c12, see also bug 120985
   + image toolbar is implemented (87362 => WF),
 consequently 120985 needs to be WF (Heiko)
   => no opinion

 * UI request for 'Merge Cells' control in 'Format - Cells' window
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101835
   + merge action is just not a _attribute_ of a cell, WF (Heiko)
   + too far away for normal users; not expected there (Patrick)
   + menu, sidebar and toolbar is enough (Muhammet)
   + agreed (Sascha)
   => WF

 * TOOLBAR: Handling of icon "borders" in the table toolbar should be improved
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113606
   + currently we _add_ borders with the buttons, the request is to _toggle_
 with the full preset with the advantage to highlight the current item
   + toggle is default in MSO (Sascha)
   + real presets that fully switch the borders would allow to use user-defined
 presets that can be shown in the widget (Heiko)
 + would be an overkill (Patrick)
   + move "no borders" to some other position
 and add the one missing button (3 vertical lines) and switch to
 toggle (Sascha)
   + toggle is more familiar to users and the drawback of the change, which
 is users cannot add horizontal plus vertical to get a grid, is
 neglectable (Heiko)
   + changing behavior seems to require a lot of effort (Muhammet, Patrick),
 adding the missing button could be done safely
   + we should check the new workflow before it is put into master (Patrick)
   + Maybe think about adding an alternative interaction that uses the current
 adding behavior; with Shift pressed the configuration will be added (Sasha)
  (Think about, if the UI can show the status properly then(Patrick))
   => go with it




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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-11-05

[Miklos Vajna]

* Present:
+ Cloph, Michael W, Gabriel, Stephan, Caolan, Heiko, Xisco, Olivier, 
Miklos, Michael S, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ Update bug-metrics ODS generator to extend the chart ranges past 
2019-12-10, till e.g. the end of this year (Xisco)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.1 status:
  + feature freeze: week 47 (2020-11-16) – late features, please ask for it!
+ if not, then we have time till the end of next week to add features
  + UI / l10n freeze upcoming in mid-December
+ 7.0 status
  + 7.0.4 scheduled normally for November 24
+ Remotes
+ update planned for the next week, with updated l10n
+ Android viewer
+ update planned for the next week, with updated l10n
  + working on this: updating to AndroidX, should be done this week

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + minor updates in DTD (ohallot)
+ Helpcontent2
   + Many updates (S. Chaiklin, ohallot, Johnny_M, buovjaga and others)
+ Google seasons of Doc
   + wiki pages for Calc functions (on-going)
   + Calc E-learning (on going)
   + expected end: early December
+ Guides et al.
   + Finishing Calc Guide 7.0
   + Impress 7.0 on the way

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 249(249) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  7(2) 14(1)  49(0) 159(1)
 commented 97(14)   356(1)1054(15)   3911(52)
   removed  2(-1) 5(-1) 11(0)  56(-1)
  resolved 17(9) 52(-1)132(7) 446(11)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 249 changes in 1 month, and 2323 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 71 changes in 1 month, and 581 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 69 changes in 1 month, and 642 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 44 changes in 1 month, and 200 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 32 changes in 1 month, and 495 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 32 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 19 changes in 1 month, and 110 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 474 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 13 changes in 1 month, and 504 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 224 changes in 1 
year

   + 14 new tickets with needsUXEval Oct/29-Nov-05

  * Remove "For the current document only" from Tools > Options > Language
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137873
  * Disable context menu item Delete for Impress templates
  * Confusing terminology for DOCX save (Transitional versus Word 2007-365)
  * RFE: Add support for East Asian font properties in style inspector
  * Add functionality to select specific templates directly from File menu
  * Clicking apply or apply to all should close they Select Your preferred
user interface
  * ENHANCEMENT: integration of the office with the Git.
  * UI: Preferred user interface: the arrangement of options
  * Setting line width should enable continuous line (if line being
disabled)
  * Last Printed not saved if document not saved
  * Show the UI selection dialog on first start-up
  * Draw a bevel around previews
  * Include odt2daisy as a feature in LibreOffice
  * Include odt2braille as a feature in LibreOffice

* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
+ 7(-8) import failure, 1(+0) export failures
  + 1 ‘resize with cell’ related, fix in gerrit
+ 3 coverity issues
+ 11 ossfuzz issues
  + 2 new tricky fodt table ones

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
+ (+99) 2367 2268 2000 1778 1564 1306 1053 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.7.2
+ (+225) 568 343 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
+ (-78) 4538 4616 4969 6598 4561 3223 1986 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.2.2
+ (+236) 5339 5103 3457 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.3.1
+ (+1732)  1732 0

   + symbols are still not resolved for new reports

* Mentoring/easyhack update
  committer...   1 week 1 month  3 months 12 months
  open  41(-42)102(-32) 105(-30)  110(-32)
   reviews 446(30)1270(-118)   4218(-36)18583(-76)
merged 324(58)1130(-50)4373(-108)   19347(-45)
 abandoned  11(-2)  81(-12) 234(-6)  1049(-7)
   own commits 278(44) 924(0)  3382(-5) 15375(-75)
review commits 115(22) 306(51) 1135(55)  4725(41)
contribut