Re: lmtp should give temporary failure for mailbox unknown
On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 10:23 +0200, Simon Matter wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 11:55 -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > >> I have seen this behavior. It happens when a mail account exists in > >> authentication (ie mysql) but when the mailbox doesn't exist yet. > >> > >> Are you using autocreate inbox? If so, are you sure that the inbox > >> exists for these mailboxes prior to the message delivery? Or you could > >> enable "createonpost" (I recommend against this for oh-so-many reasons, > >> but YMMV) > >> > > No > > I dont use autocreate inbox. And as I have said lmtp accepts mail for > > the same ids most of the times. One in every ~300 mails bounces > > unexplicably > > > > I am now doing a dumb thing of running postfix on the cyrus box too to > > accept the mails and relay to unix lmtp. This is loading the already > > loaded cyrus server ( with approx 2 active acounts ) .. but atleast > > clients dont get bounced messages from my bosses id. > > The question is, does it still happen with unix lmtp? Did you already > switch to the new configuration? > Now that you have mentioned .. I am looking at the logs and seeing similar bounces on unix lmtp too. Looks like I *really* have a problem Thanks Ram > Simon Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
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Re: Squirrelmail
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Hello! > Does anybody know how can I set Squirrelmail to work with Cyrus using > sasldb authentication mode? Where is the problem? Choose in conf.pl "2 Server Settings" -> "A IMAP-Settings" -> "8 Server Software" = cyrus and it should work. SQM doesn't need to know what authentication mode cyrus is using. You only have to choose your 6. Authentication type: digest-md5 7. Secure IMAP (TLS) : true in "2 Server Settings" and specify your IMAP-Server. Andi Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Squirrelmail
Hello! Does anybody know how can I set Squirrelmail to work with Cyrus using sasldb authentication mode? Thanks a lot in advance! Stefano C. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Webmail
Hello everyone! I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. What can you suggest me? I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: 1) Squirremail 2) Horde-IMP 3) Openwebmail I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would maintain it. I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that should be so cool. It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share contacts and other informaions. Does anyone have some experiences in that way? Thakns a lot in advance!!! Stefano C. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that should be so cool. It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share contacts and other informaions. Does anyone have some experiences in that way? If You're looking for groupware based on cyrus visit http://www.kolab.org Glueing a webmail frontend like squirrelmail to that should be no problem. Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact scenario. Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Hi, I only know a older version of Squirremail as user and the Horde as Admin. So i will only say something to Horde. We are running Horde with IMP, Ingo, Turba, Kronolithe, Nag and Mnemo. Horde supports the features of cyrus like (quota Display, ACL and timesiev). The Turba, Kronolithe, Nag and Mnemo support sharing of adressbooks, kalendar, todo-lists and notes. To interact with Outlook you may want to have a look at kolab http://kolab.org . Michael Menge Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone! I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. What can you suggest me? I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: 1) Squirremail 2) Horde-IMP 3) Openwebmail I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would maintain it. I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that should be so cool. It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share contacts and other informaions. Does anyone have some experiences in that way? Thakns a lot in advance!!! Stefano C. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME krytographische Unterschrift Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Hi! I have tried squirrelmail and horde IMP. While squirrelmail is very easy to implement, I prefer IMP for it's superior feature list But it's a hell to configure it the first time with all it's thousand options because I found most of them having the wrong default in my opinion. Best, Daniel On 16.10.2006 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everyone! > I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. > What can you suggest me? > I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: > 1) > Squirremail > 2) > Horde-IMP > 3) > Openwebmail > > I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would > maintain it. > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > should be so cool. > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > contacts and other informaions. > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > Thakns a lot in advance!!! > > Stefano C. > > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Squirrelmail
Great!!! I was thinking that "login" were concened over Linux axxount, instead it refers to saslauthd demon. Perfect, it's running perfectly THANKS A LOT! :-) Stefano C. > Hi, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: >> Hello! >> Does anybody know how can I set Squirrelmail to work with Cyrus using >> sasldb authentication mode? > > Where is the problem? > Choose in conf.pl "2 Server Settings" -> "A IMAP-Settings" -> "8 Server > Software" = cyrus and it should work. > SQM doesn't need to know what authentication mode cyrus is using. > You only have to choose your > 6. Authentication type: digest-md5 > 7. Secure IMAP (TLS) : true > > in "2 Server Settings" and specify your IMAP-Server. > > Andi > > > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > > should be so cool. > > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > > contacts and other informaions. > > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > > > If You're looking for groupware based on cyrus visit http://www.kolab.org > > Glueing a webmail frontend like squirrelmail to that should be no problem. > > Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I > didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't > use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL > layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact > scenario. > I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), parse each message, then search them just to find a single event. The developers response to my questions about the inefficiencies of their storage format was basically "that is the clients problem [parsing/caching the kolab objects]". So don't plan on using it with Horde, as you'll kill your server, as every operation in the web calendar, for instance, will require your webserver to fetch and parse every calendar object. openxchange looks to be a more viable alternative, especially if you have to support webclient users. For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. Z Z Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 06:57 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everyone! > I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. > What can you suggest me? > I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: > 1) > Squirremail > 2) > Horde-IMP > 3) > Openwebmail > > I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would > maintain it. > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > should be so cool. > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > contacts and other informaions. > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > Thakns a lot in advance!!! http://wiki.horde.org/TurbaOutlook2003?referrer=HowTo This is for Turba using sql db. I use LDAP but this answers OP Craig Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I > didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't > use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL > layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact > scenario. Squirrelmail DEVEL branch (1.5) now supports STARTTLS after protocol handshake in SMTP, IMAP, layers, as well as in ManageSieve (if you are using avelsieve plugin) ; PHP5 is needed for this feature. However, DEVEL CVS is undergoing some changes at this point. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Problem with mupdate/sasl and random entropy [Re: Setting multiples acls in cyrus/murder slows down to a crawl]
Hi, So, once again I'll anwser my own question ;) The cyradm session slows down suddenly because the numerous sasl authentications the imap server does when connecting to the mupdate server completely drain the /dev/random entropy generator... Because I don't want to recompile cyrus-sasl (and the hardware random number generator on my Dell servers doesn't seem to work), I made a symlink from /dev/urandom to /dev/random and it solved the problem. Yet I have 2 other questions: Why isn't the RNG used by cyrus-sasl configurable at runtime, but only at compile-time? OpenLDAP has a config option called "TLSRandFile" for this. Why does the imap server (on which I'm connected with cyradm) establish a new connection to mupdate for *every single call* to "setaclmailbox user. cyrus kxa"? Because I change the ACL of 400 mailboxes, imap must reauthenticate 400 times in a row. Regards Farzad FARID wrote: Hi, I write a script for cyradm to set the ACLs for all the users, like this: setaclmailbox user.perez cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.pirat cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.plouvier cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.pruche cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.seltani cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.serre cyrus kxa setaclmailbox user.solers cyrus kxa ...[400 accounts]... I then feed the script to cyradm. But after 10 lines, the execution suddenly slows down to a crawl, and only one "setaclmailbox" every 10 or 20 seconds is executed. I'm running a unified cyrus murder 2.3.7, with 2 imap servers and 1 mupdate server. I ran the script only on one imap server, and all the accounts belong to this server. These are the logs I see on the mupdate server. The imap server keeps connecting/disconnecting from the mupdate server, and the mupdate server seems to spend a lot of time in either cmd_find or cmd_set. Oct 13 12:19:04 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: login: aberlour.srv.in.karavel.com [10.12.17.44] aberlour DIGEST-MD5 User logged in Oct 13 12:19:04 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_set(fd:15, user.fboudali) Oct 13 12:19:04 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_find(fd:17, user.fboudali) Oct 13 12:19:05 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: accepted connection Oct 13 12:19:05 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: telling master 4 Oct 13 12:19:05 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate pid 23028 in READY state: serving one more multi-threaded connection Oct 13 12:19:05 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate now has 1 ready workers Oct 13 12:19:06 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_find(fd:14, user.fboudali) Oct 13 12:19:23 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: login: aberlour.srv.in.karavel.com [10.12.17.44] aberlour DIGEST-MD5 User logged in Oct 13 12:19:23 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_set(fd:15, user.bpincede) Oct 13 12:19:23 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_find(fd:17, user.bpincede) Oct 13 12:19:24 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: accepted connection Oct 13 12:19:24 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: telling master 4 Oct 13 12:19:24 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate pid 23028 in READY state: serving one more multi-threaded connection Oct 13 12:19:24 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate now has 1 ready workers Oct 13 12:19:26 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_find(fd:14, user.bpincede) Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: login: aberlour.srv.in.karavel.com [10.12.17.44] aberlour DIGEST-MD5 User logged in Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_set(fd:15, user.albonnefoy) Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: cmd_find(fd:17, user.albonnefoy) Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: accepted connection Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: telling master 4 Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate pid 23028 in READY state: serving one more multi-threaded connection Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/master[22804]: service mupdate now has 1 ready workers Oct 13 12:19:29 oban cyrus/mupdate[23028]: login: aberlour.srv.in.karavel.com [10.12.17.44] aberlour DIGEST-MD5 User logged in When I try to trace the mupdate threads, all I see is that the threads seem to spend a lot a time waiting on locks (futex on the linux implementation of threads), and very little time reading or writing any file. Can anybody explain this to me and help me debug it? Or is there another way to set hundreds of ACLs in a row? Regards -- Farzad FARID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecte Open Source / Pragmatic Source http://www.pragmatic-source.com/ Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: sieve sender
That's not useful in all cases. I'd also like to find out more about editing the redirect and notify options. Erik Myllymaki wrote: simple /etc/hosts change was all I needed. Erik Myllymaki wrote: I think this is not a Sieve problem but one that affects sieve. When using a sieve redirect, the Sender of that mail gets set to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and thus generates an error message about an invalid sending address from SMTP servers other than our own. I am unsure where in my config I should look to make that a FQDN instead of just the imap servers hostname. -- Jo Rhett Network/Software Engineer Net Consonance Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Squirrelmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking that "login" were concened over Linux axxount, instead it refers to saslauthd demon. just for clarity, it refers to the SASL mechanism. saslauthd is the backend authentication mechanism you chose, but nothing would be different if you used mysql or pam or ... SASL is a generic API, and the application doesn't know or care what backend authenticator you are using. -- Jo Rhett Network/Software Engineer Net Consonance Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Alexandros Vellis wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact scenario. Squirrelmail DEVEL branch (1.5) now supports STARTTLS after protocol handshake in SMTP, IMAP, layers, as well as in ManageSieve (if you are using avelsieve plugin) ; PHP5 is needed for this feature. However, DEVEL CVS is undergoing some changes at this point. THX, I'll keep an eye on that! Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Zachariah Mully wrote: I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), You're talking about the Toltec Connector, correct? There is an alternative called KONSEC connector that stores non-mail items as a binary mail with a special header in a separate folder IIRC. openxchange looks to be a more viable alternative, especially if you have to support webclient users. Last time I checked it wouldn't provide some features but that was ages ago - don't intend to start a groupware server discussion here either. :-) For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. AFAIK horde's CVS branch offers integration into Kolab (or the other way around, there was sth. on the kolab site) regards Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 23:24 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > Zachariah Mully wrote: > > > > I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two > > person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the > > Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it > > unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to > > suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), > > You're talking about the Toltec Connector, correct? > > There is an alternative called KONSEC connector that stores non-mail > items as a binary mail with a special header in a separate folder IIRC. Same difference. Since all objects in Kolab are email messages, if they're binary, they have to be processed on the client side, since that format eliminates any server side searching... And pretty much eliminates any reason for storing the objects as email messages in the first place. Dumb architecture decision. KONSEC does the same damn thing as Toltec, and is just as worthless, especially in a heterogenious environment of webclients and Oulook, you're punishing your webclient users as well as making your server do some completely unnecessary heavy lifting. Not mention the architectures severe suckitude over slow WAN links. But, you know, other than that, it's great ;) > > For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the > > sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their > > own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. > > AFAIK horde's CVS branch offers integration into Kolab (or the other way > around, there was sth. on the kolab site) Yes, that's what I was alluding to... Outlook+Horde+Kolab does not work well at all. Z Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: snmp monitoring
Rudy Gevaert wrote: Hi Casper, I've started it like you suggested, but an snmpwalk snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 andes doesn't list any specific cyrus info... Any other clues for me? Thanks in advance, Make sure you have enabled access to the cyrusMasterMIB in snmpd.conf as the default config usually locks down the unauthenticated MIB visiblity. Ie. 'viewsystemviewincluded .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.1.1' Then try 'snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 localhost .1.3.6.1.4.1.3.6.1' after restarting. Roland Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Monday 16 October 2006 16:47, Zachariah Mully wrote: > Yes, that's what I was alluding to... Outlook+Horde+Kolab does not work > well at all. Cyrus does seem to work pretty well with Egroupware. wt -- Warren Turkal, Research Associate III/Systems Administrator Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Science Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
