Re: [Gossip] instant gratification, and I mean instant

[Jeff Marshall]

Jeff and I decided to put together a mostly-automated logo submission for 
mailing lists.  On your list's info page [1] you should have a new Custom Logo 
option.  Logos are put into a queue that we'll review (for appropriateness) and 
that we'll then fire off to update the list's logo.  This example [2] shows how 
the logo is placed in the upper left corner and the list's name/info page link 
is moved to the upper right corner where the Mail Archive link usually sits.

Jaf, most likely we aren't going to provide a web interface for updating the 
list data on the info page.  See the FAQ entry [3] to see how to update that 
data (it's up to the list admin to modify the headers going out on the list 
messages).  Embedding those headers in the messages has the added benefit of 
instantly working on other archiving services like GMane.

[1] example: http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/info.html
[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/marshman-scratchpad@frozenbear.com/
[3] http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#infopage

-Original Message-
From:  jaf19
Date:  11/25/05 2:10 pm
To:  jeff@jab.org
Cc:  gossip@jab.org
Subj:  Re: [Gossip] instant gratification, and I mean instant

A way for users to update the "info" linked to the list name in the upper
left hand corner.

On 11/25/05, Jeff Breidenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Mail Archive project has never ever...
>
> a) produced a single PowerPoint slide
> b) had two people sit down in the same room and hack code
> c) sent an email from @mail-archive.com
> d) all of the above
>
> The answer of course is (d). But in a radical break from
> tradition, in a couple hours Jeff Marshall and I are going to
> be sit down IN THE SAME ROOM and spend a good chunk
> of today hacking on code.
>
> I know, you are saying "my god, what are they thinking?"
> It's bold. It's crazy. It's an experiment. We don't even know
> if we'll still be talking afterwords. More importantly, we haven't
> decided what to work on, except that we want to do something
> user visible.
>
> So if you are really on the ball, this is your one chance for instant
> gratification. Send a change request either to gossip or private
> email, although it is MUCH more fun if it is to gossip. If we like it,
> it'll be implemented and online by the end of the day.
>
> Otherwise we'll just pick something.
>
> Happy Day-After-Thanksgiving,
>
> Jeff
>
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Re: [Gossip] instant gratification, and I mean instant

[Jeff Breidenbach]

The winning new feature from yesterday's coding session was...

 --> Custom Logos
 --> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#customize

Why logos?

We're hoping that list admins will have extra warm fuzzy feelings
seeing their archive customized with a particular image. Heck, maybe
this will be the tipping point for some organizations running hundreds
of  public mailing lists.

Also, when we had a slightly harder language localization feature,
nobody used it. Literally nobody. Once that got moved to a simple
control on the info page, hundreds of archives took advantage of
the feature. Every single day, more localization requests come in.
I was really shocked - I had no idea that user interface was the
bottleneck for this feature. We hope logo customization will have
a similar story.

In other good news, Jeff & I are still talking to each other. Thanks to
jaf19 for his public suggestion, and others who sent in suggestions via
private email. There's a good chance we'll schedule another coding
jam session in the future. It almost (but not quite!) feels like performance
art.

-Jeff

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