Re: [gentoo-user] binary amd64 multilib build of gcc 4.3.4 wanted
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 03:37:04PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Can someone point me to a binary amd64 multilib build of gcc 4.3.4 (same > as the amd64 install CD)? Or create one with quickpkg for me. > > I am finding it impossible to get gcc to build on a diskless system with > an nfs root. All other packages build ok - just not gcc (4.2, 4.3, 4.4) > - Ive replaced individual files with no luck, so want try to emerge a > binary package in the hope that its something Ive missed causing the > failure. > > BillK > > > > > -- > William Kenworthy > Home in Perth! > > Add this line to your make.conf PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/amd64/"; :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with installation kde-meta, gnome
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 02:16:41PM +0100, Andrzej Stycze?? wrote: > On Thursday 18 of February 2010 15:11:16 Arttu V. wrote: > > > I'm guessing you're stuck with one or more of the regular USE-flag > > related circular deps problems: cups, ldap, sasl, kerberos, rle and > > what are there (and apparently now I have to add qt4 into the mix as > > well). Do you happen to have any of these enabled? > > > > I keep running into them with each and every new desktop system > > install. Yes, I'm a greedy pig when it comes to USE flags, I enable > > most (if not everything) -- and then keep banging my head on many, > > many of these circular deps. Each of those needs a separate emerge > > (like the one Neil gave as an example for cmake) to break the cycles > > in the dependency tree. > > I'm very sorry to unable answer you. I could not wait such long, because I > must use my laptop in work, so I install Debian back yesterday :-(. I will > try Gentoo amd64 when I finish my work on Debian. > > I also try Gentoo on my desktop i386 at home and there the installation went > very well with kde-meta. There aren't any problems with installation kde-meta > (emerge kde-meta). > > On my laptop (amd64) and home computer (i386) I only put these flags what > emerge want during the installation. I do not add any other, because I quite > newbie to Gentoo (and I don't know what I should put there). As I mention > earlier on my home computer (i386) everything go well :-), but on amd64 > not :-( - maybe next time will be better. Anyway I have only such problems > with amd64 to install kde-meta or maybe anyone else? If I understand you correctly, then you only set useflags when you invoke emerge? As in "USE="foo" emerge foobar". Is this how you're doing it or am I just misunderstanding? If it is how you're doing it, then I would suggest that you start using your /etc/portage/package.use file instead (it doesn't exist by default, you have to make the directory and the file) and add the use flags you want for the package you're about to install. This way it'll be a permanent useflag that isn't overwritten next time that specific package needs an update. > > Thank you for your help and time. > > Best wishes, > Andrzej > Zeerak
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:20:02PM -0600, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > Am Samstag, 20. Februar 2010 schrieb Dale: > > > > > >> So, it wants to rebuild Kconvert but there is no such thing in portage. > >> I have the kde-sunset layman up to date as well. Also, I do use > >> Kconvert so I don't want to get rid of it either. > >> > >> Is there a way to fix this? Oh, the news item is not related. I read > >> it but plan to go back to it one day when I have more time to mess with it. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Dale > >> > > You can do what I do when I want to keep a package that?s been removed from > > portage: copy the overlay from /var/db/pkg/¹ to your local overlay > > at /usr/local/prtage. > > > > ¹ Basically, that?s where portage keeps copies of all installed ebuilds. > > > > I may end up doing that. I thought the KDE 3 stuff was supposed to move > over to kde-sunset. Did they just miss this one package maybe? > > I may just do a quickpkg of the thing, unmerge it, let it do the other > updates and then put it back. ;-) > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Dale, you sly, sly man. Hats off ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 05:43:11PM -0600, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:20:02PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > >> > >>> Am Samstag, 20. Februar 2010 schrieb Dale: > >>> > >>> > >>> > So, it wants to rebuild Kconvert but there is no such thing in portage. > I have the kde-sunset layman up to date as well. Also, I do use > Kconvert so I don't want to get rid of it either. > > Is there a way to fix this? Oh, the news item is not related. I read > it but plan to go back to it one day when I have more time to mess with > it. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > > >>> You can do what I do when I want to keep a package that?s been removed > >>> from > >>> portage: copy the overlay from /var/db/pkg/¹ to your local overlay > >>> at /usr/local/prtage. > >>> > >>> ¹ Basically, that?s where portage keeps copies of all installed ebuilds. > >>> > >>> > >> I may end up doing that. I thought the KDE 3 stuff was supposed to move > >> over to kde-sunset. Did they just miss this one package maybe? > >> > >> I may just do a quickpkg of the thing, unmerge it, let it do the other > >> updates and then put it back. ;-) > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > >> > >> > > Dale, you sly, sly man. > > > > Hats off ;-) > > > > > > Keep your hat on. I don't have those thoughts very often. I do have my > "hal" moments tho. lol I'm starting to have some KDE moments to tho. o_O > > Dale > > :-) :-) > In a future not far from now, Dale has moments about every scrap of software save the kernel... ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:11:53PM -0600, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > On Sunday 21 February 2010 18:53:00 Dale wrote: > > > > > >> So, Seamonkey 1 isn't usable and Seamonkey 2 has a few bugs up its > >> but too. KDE is about the same. > >> > > Perhaps KDE itself is for you, but I've been using kmail for years > > without any real problems. Well, earlier versions would sometimes > > corrupt their indices, but that was easily fixed. Recommended. > > > > > > I used Kmail at first but just didn't like it very much. It's been a > while so I can't recall exactly what it was. I also like having one > program handling my web browsing and email. I have considered switching > to Thunderbird and Firefox tho. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Well Opera offers that functionality, you have your email in a side bar :-) Although it's very much in denial about digitally signing/encrypting mails, but as long as that's not an issue, it's very good at what it does. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpZ6IFFP1IDc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:22:10PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/23/2010 07:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> [...] > >> You got me with that one :) Just because I don't have this problem > >> doesn't mean no else does either. > > > > You are permanently wired to the Internet? Don't you ever go out? :P > > I'm referring to the machine. It's always connected. Broadband > flatrate ftw :P There's no point in ever disconnecting it. > > Someone obviously isn't a student with ridiculously expensive electricity. ;-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpNfccBhaicr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 03:38:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer > > important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. > > I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from > > any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple > > desktops. > > I spend most of my time in vim, in the C program and documentation > > toolchains or in a browser. > > > > The reason I bring this up is that my account just froze on me from > > running out of disk space. A little research showed that an > > odd-sounding thing called nepomuk was using 7.2 G (SEVEN GIGS) in some > > dotfiles. It turns out to be a KDE client - whatever that is. I've got > > a lot of space here and there, but my /home partition was never near > > full before. > > Put "-semantic-desktop" in your make.conf. emerge -auDN world. emerge > -a --depclean. That should do it. > > Is that even possible? Won't a number of KDE apps demand the semantic-desktop use flag set? -- Zeerak Waseem pgpR9zop2lF1s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:06:46PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 06:01 PM, daid kahl wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Simple question: Can you please explain your pdf viewer of choice (and > > any configs or 'hacks' I should do)? I can't find anything I like. > > > > I've tried xpdf, epdfview, evince, kpdf, and acroread. As I am trying > > to remove kdelibs from my system to reduce overhead, I'm reluctant to go > > for okular, and although I had some brief experience with it, I forget > > my results (still trying to replace kaffeine..that's another post maybe > > for later once I'm done testing). I had gs programs of sorts for > > awhile, and I forget the results, other than to say the pdf parts aren't > > on my machine anymore for better or worse. > > There's also Foxit Reader. You can find it in the "rion" overlay. > > Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making notes in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that allowed that. If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular) do it, I'd be very grateful :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgphqLerZRaJ6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:32:17PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > On 2/24/2010 11:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > >> How do you know what he needs? He probably wants KDE but without the > >> whole "Semantic Desktop" thingy. > > > > Well, mostly based on him telling us what he needs, and that he doesn't > > really "want" KDE: > > > > On 02/24/2010 04:27 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > >> I've been using KDE for a long time, for reasons that are no longer > >> important to me. I have remained out of pure inertia. > >> I use gnome happily at work, both on Fedora and Ubuntu. All I need from > >> any of them is a panel with some favorites, and a pager for multiple > >> desktops. > > > > it appears that all he needs is a panel and a pager, which any decent > > window manager will have. Therefore, if KDE is using up more resources > > than he feels warranted, perhaps it's time to switch. > > I have semantic desktop disabled and KDE offers a hell of a lot more > than just a panel and a pager. > > You're right. KDE does offer a lot more than just a pager and a panel with semantic desktop disabled, but the OP does state that all hee needs "is a panel with some favourites, and a pager for multiple desktops." Which pretty much any WM will give him. Again, no one is telling him to switch, but suggesting that based on his needs, KDE might be overkill. -- Zeerak Waseem pgp0c4cVBYKPV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:40:23PM -0800, BRM wrote: > I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, > preferably for KDE4. > Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not > being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge update process - > something a GUI _ought_ to be able to resolve. > > In googling, I noticed Kuroo, but it's no longer maintained (nearly 2 years > out of date now, so it would have to have been KDE3) so it's been > understandably removed from mainline portage - though I also noticed > information on a Kuroo overlay. > > And I also came across Porthole; however, all versions are marked > Unstable/Testing (~) at the moment. > > Can anyone give some advice on these or others? > > > Ben > > > Well there's Paludis, all version are however marked ~arch at the moment. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpnA3vjX2mDE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.33 and Nouveau
Hey guys Got then latest gentoo-sources last night, and thought I'd try with the nouveau drivers. And it went pretty well (until) I had to start X. I've attatched my xorg log. I have next to no idea what to do with the error. Thanks in advance :-) -- Zeerak Waseem X.Org X Server 1.7.5 Release Date: 2010-02-16 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 x86_64 Current Operating System: Linux Zeerak 2.6.33-gentoo #4 SMP Sat Feb 27 17:38:41 CET 2010 x86_64 Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 nomodeset Build Date: 26 February 2010 01:30:07AM Current version of pixman: 0.17.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Feb 27 17:53:49 2010 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Layout0" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Device0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) |-->Input Device "TouchPad" (**) Option "DontZap" "False" (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" (==) Not automatically adding devices (==) Not automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/, /usr/share/fonts/freefonts/, /usr/share/fonts/util/, /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules" (II) Loader magic: 0x7be100 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d7:17aa:3839 nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] rev 161, Mem @ 0xc900/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 0xca00/16777216 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) "extmod" will be loaded by default. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded by default. (II) "dri" will be loaded by default. (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default. (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX enabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "nouveau" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 0.0.15 Module class:
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 2.6.33 and Nouveau
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:39:19AM -0800, walt wrote: > On 02/27/2010 09:22 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > Hey guys > > > > Got then latest gentoo-sources last night, and thought I'd try with the > > nouveau > > drivers. And it went pretty well (until) I had to start X. > > > > I've attatched my xorg log. I have next to no idea what to do with the > > error. > > Cool. I didn't know about nouveau. > > Seems to be DRM that's lacking: > (EE) [drm] failed to open device > (EE) No devices detected. > > I'm wondering if you built the kernel modules listed here: > http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallDRM > > Yeah I have all the kernel modules. The only thing I'm unsure about is, that it refers some firmware that needs to be downloaded. This can be downloaded from fedora, or (I think) from portage. If the firmware from portage is the same as from the fedora site. Then I should have all necessary bits. But I'll try building it as a module, and follow the directions about that. (I'm just glad that the only gui applications I use are pdfÃ-readers and Ãin browsing :-)) -- Zeerak Waseem pgp8Jti2yjbeC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mail client for mbox format sought
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:06:49AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > my setup here is a running Postix MTA which stores all incoming mail > into a single file (per user) in mbox format (/var/spool/mail/$USER) > > I'm desparately looking for a mail client with a GUI which can handle > that. > I didn't manage to configure Thunderbird(-3.0.1) (it always tries to set > up an IMAP or POP3 account) and importing mails from the mbox file again > and again isn't a solution. > > I've tried Evolution, setting "Receiving Email' to 'Standard Unix mbox > spool file'. > This shows my email headers but when I click on one of these I always > get > 'Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync' > > I've been googling around but any suggestions to remove some index files > didn't help either. > > So, does anybody know a solution? > > Many thanks, > Helmut. > > -- > Helmut Jarausch > > Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik > RWTH - Aachen University > D 52056 Aachen, Germany > How about claws? As far as I remember it supports mbox format :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpas27RaE23I.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo down?
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 05:30:40PM +0100, Daniel Wagener wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:34:30 -0800 > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > Guess I'll have to wait for some nvidia installation instructions. > > Thanks! > > you may try the wiki though... > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page > And should you have any questions the wiki can't answer, ask them here, or for a faster response: The irc channels :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpmsQJdDzfyQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pending layman directory "relocation"
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:56:58AM -0500, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: > On 03/01/10 18:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:07:07 -0500, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: > > > >>> Or you can edit /var/lib/layman/make.conf and change the > >>> locations there. > >> > >> That didn't work for me; the current layman script still > >> references the old location; which is why I added the soft link. > > > > You have to set the location in /etc/layman/layman.cfg. My layman > > directory is in neither of the locations you mention, but it works > > fine. > > > > Duh!! (Embarrassed) The first thing I should have looked for. Thanks. > > Obviously this isn't a "bug", but I guess I'll send a suggestion to > bugzilla to add an additional item to make the list more complete, and > so that other newbies (like me) don't loose functionality. > > (news presently says: > > A) Moving > 1. Move your current content to /var/lib/layman before upgrading. > 3. Update PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /var/lib/layman/make.conf accordingly. > 2. Make /etc/make.conf source /var/lib/layman/make.conf. > > additional item 4: > 4. Update the /etc/layman/layman.cfg "storage" parameter to reflect > the new location. > > Thanks everyone for the discussion. > > > > > Well, you'll only need to edit /etc/layman/layman.cfg in case you don't run the update. I mean I didn't need to edit it because I saw the news item, and thought that I might as well update Layman then, to make sure that I wouldn't forget it. The news item is, the way I see it, a reminder for when you update layman. And then running etc/cfg/conf-update should take care of the change for you -- Zeerak Waseem pgphE7jjoPKbI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:44:27AM +, Graham Murray wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > > no, it is not safe to have a 64bit only system. Just choose the multilib > > profile and start installing. If something needs the 32bit emul libs, it > > will > > pull the stuff in. There is nothing you need to care about. > > What is unsafe about a 64bit only system? Surely if it were unsafe then > Gentoo would not offer no-multilib profiles? I have recently built 2 > systems using a no-multilib profile and have not found any problems, and > expect to start building a third one today. > I completely misread that, I read it as "it is safe to have a 64bit only system". I ran a no-multilib profile for a couple of weeks which ran fine. This isn't a long period of time, I know. But I had absolutely no issues in that period. The only reason I switched back to a multilib profile was because a math program for school couldn't connect to it's core functions on a pure 64-bit environment. Furthermore, I have multilib flag disabled as standard, but there are some things (gcc, glibc mainly) where I have set the multilib flag. And I'm not having any sort of problem with it. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpF8ICbdlhM6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:44:06PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:13:07 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > > Have you tried Mutt (smile) ? > > Not if it uses HAL :) > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > I don't know if I can assimilate one more Borg Tagline! Hells to the no. I use mutt. I can definately recommend it from this side of the HAL-free ocean :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpOiaWB7DbnQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:19:31PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 04:37:28PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:44:06PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:13:07 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > > > > > > Have you tried Mutt (smile) ? > > > > > > Not if it uses HAL :) > > > > > Hells to the no. > > > > I use mutt. I can definately recommend it from this side of the HAL-free > > ocean :-) > I think Neil is rather aware of the fact that Mutt doesn't use HAL, > but was cracking a joke at Dale's rather well-known dislike of it. > > > Cheers, > > W > > -- > Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu > Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire > et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton > Dear God, I think I left my brain in the fridge this morning. I usually always look to see if Dale has been involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpPLFeRQe8Pc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:17:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 16 March 2010 17:33:13 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > > usually always look to see if ... > > Sorry, but I'm having terrible trouble parsing this expression. > > -- > Rgds > Peter. > Haha, no wonder. In the initial reply I had written that I left my brain somewhere. I think that illustrates it quite well :P -- Zeerak Waseem pgpZEkzqsuonf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:06:56AM -0500, Dale wrote: > Hi, > > I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start. Now I have a question. I had the > old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the > browser and email. Now it only starts the browser. I remember it was > in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me. > Does someone here recall exactly where this setting is by any chance? I > found one in about:config but I'm sort of chicken to change it not being > sure it is it. > > Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank. Also, can > someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > You are html free :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgprOOSZMnW3a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:28:16PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 08:56 +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:17:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Tuesday 16 March 2010 17:33:13 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > > > > > > usually always look to see if ... > > > > > > Sorry, but I'm having terrible trouble parsing this expression. > > > > Haha, no wonder. In the initial reply I had written that I left my > > brain somewhere. I think that illustrates it quite well :P > > I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to > me, with the possible exception of a run-on "if". > > The full sentence was "I usually always look to see if Dale has been > involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned" > > -- > Iain Buchanan > > In war, truth is the first casualty. > -- U Thant > > Ah it's just using two different words that describe seeing something :-) I like to think that my english is a little better. I mean it should have been "see if" or "look to see whether" (as far as I remember anyway :-)) -- Zeerak Waseem pgp7rkDGfMyS3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:36:59PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 22 March 2010 21:21:26 KH wrote: > > Am 22.03.2010 20:17, schrieb Mick: > > > TBH, I wouldn't pay money for it but as many OEM impose a MSWindows tax > > > on all of us I had no other option if I wanted to buy this particular > > > laptop. > > > > You can refuse the license agreement and give windows back. If you are > > lucky, the vendor will give you some money back. > > > > kh > > > Yeah right, good luck with that. > > Three people in my entire country are known to have gotten that right, 2 from > Toshiba. In all three cases, the hardware vendor refunded the cost as a PR > exercise. > > Microsoft are dead sneaky about this one, at least under ZA law. The hardware > vendor accepted the license to install it (remember it's on OEM install not a > box set), and you buy the hardware knowing full well that it comes with > Windows. That's part of the deal and there is no deal on the table where the > machine does not have Windows. > > There is nothing unfair about this. No vendor has a *duty* so sell you what > you want and they cannot be forced to. Microsoft does not enforce that > vendors > sell Windows-only machines (and they proved as such to the relevant > Commission). Vendors almost uniformly virtually every model with Windows, the > exceptions are low grade machines the no sane person would buy today, and > servers). This is not even anti-competitive, the vendor can sell what they > like and can offer only a certain OS of they choose. Much like a Toyota > dealer > is perfectly free to sell only Toyotas and cannot be forced to offer Hondas > as > well. > > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > Well you I'll have to agree with you that it's not unfiar or anything else as such. I do however think that it would be benefitial to the consumer if the market was more open than it's current state. That being said we do have the option to buy costumized computers without the MS tax. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpLShrxThF6t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:21:06AM +0100, KH wrote: > Am 22.03.2010 23:51, schrieb Mick: > > >> > >> In Germany you are still free to sell the software to a third person who > >> is insane enough to buy Windows ;-) > > > > But how can you sell it - I think that it is an OEM license which will only > > run in the machine that Dell bought it for, from Microsoft. > > > > I'll try running the image of the partition which I made when I bought it on > > another machine and see what gives if I get the time, but in the past I > > remember trying something similar and I could not get it to work. > > I am not in that to deep. IIRC oem has no meaning in Germany. This is > part of the license agreement what you have to accept after buying the > software. Law says you have to accept it before or it is not part of the > contract. > I never tried lately but you should be able to install from every Win CD > you find and just use the code from that green sticker. There even is a > tool you can download from Microsoft to change your key - like you once > hat a pirated version with a cracked key and now you want to turn legal > again. Download the tool, enter the code you bought, you are done > without installing everything again. > > But again I don't know if it works in every constellation nor if it is > legal everywhere. > > kh > I don't live -too- far off from Germany and take trips down there every now and again. Perhaps I should consider my next laptop purchase when I'm there. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpZ4aNYHHcQP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:16:12PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: > Alan McKinnon asks: > > > And Dale himself holds the record for starting the longest email thread > > ever outside of UseNet. > > > > It started with ... wait for it ... Xorg and hal! > > > > It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg > > (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use > > hal at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days? > > I suggest KDE4. It's really getting on my nerves at the moment. But I > don't want to quit using it either, now that I arranged my desktops and > activities and plasmoids and stuff. Isn't KDE 4.5 about to be there soon > and fix all those tings not running? No? > > Wonko > +1 for KDE4 ;) I'm guessing 4.5 will fix some, not all, things and bring you a world of new flaws to explore! Consider yourself Dr. Livingstone in KDE world ;) -- Zeerak Waseem pgp3H9mI0ITIf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 07:50:08PM -0400, Michael Edenfield wrote: > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 15:41:57 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg > > (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal > > at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days? > > $5 says Dale won't get devicekit working either. > > --K > The problem about that one is that I doubt that anyone will bet against you ;) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpB6QKzu5lfb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 03:27:39PM -0400, stosss wrote: > > Bad enough you mentioned HAL in a conversation with Dale. Now there's > > XML involved. This thread is officially never going to end. > > This list really lightens up a day. LOL > > -- > If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the > people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become > happy. - Thomas Jefferson > I must admit that it really is good at providing chuckles :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgp2ZK3s5Qqhn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update gcc downgrade
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:40:02PM +0200, Kraus Philipp wrote: > Hi, > > I run in a virtual machine a gentoo (~x86) system. I synced the portage > tree at the weekend an run emerge --update > > The update runs without errors, but emerge installed the gcc 4.3.4, > but on the system is the 4.4.3 installed > > [ebuild NS ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 [4.4.3] USE="hardened mudflap nls > nptl openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran - > gcj -gtk (-libffi) (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -nopie - > objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla" > > After the update I run "emerge --depclean" and the 4.3.4 is unmerged > and now > I run emerge --update the gcc should installed again > > gcc-config -l shows only i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.3 whitch is set > gcc-version: gcc (Gentoo 4.4.3 p1.0) 4.4.3 > > and I mask only 2 packages > >=net-fs/netatalk-2.0.3 > >app-emulation/open-vm-tools-0.0.20090824.187411 > > I run the kernel (kernel.org) 2.6.33.2 and I don't use distcc at the > machine > > Can anybody help me to fix the gcc problem? I only need the 4.4.3 gcc > > Thanks > > Phil > What's the output of 'emerge -pt world'? That should show you what package is pulling gcc-4.3.4 :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpH0zZXLSXR7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 04:57:39AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > ...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to > experience Gentoo. > > OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively painless. > The documents were fairly clear. There are things to learn, and old > friends like rc-update and df look different, but it worked and didn't > take long - less than an hour to reboot including editing - so that's > good. > > Unfortunately, simply allowing all environments & apps on the system > to go ~amd64 isn't working out as nicely. > > 1) xfce4 had one build failure. I masked it and the build finished. > xfce starts and seems to mostly work, but I get no wallpaper and the > right click for a menu on the desktop doesn't work. It's usable, but > clearly 'not stable'. > Are there any bugs on this? Perhaps it's a configurations thing :-) > 2) gnome-2.28 simply doesn't build. > Attatch the log? I doubt I can help you, but I'm pretty sure someone else on the list will be able to :-) > 3) I'm currently left with lots of things in emerge @preserved-rebuild > that don't build. emerge -DuN @world is not clean. > it isn't? The way I see it, it's every bit as clean as emerge -DuN world, the difference is that now there's a set to take care of what revdep-rebuild did. I could be mistaken then ;) > QUESTION: Assume I'm happy with ~amd64 on @system, but want to build > the stable version of gnome or kde. How do I get it? Since gnome-2.26 > worked yesterday I tried masking >=gnome-2.28. emerge -DuN gnome. > Portage then didn't try to emerge the meta-package but doesn't take > all of gnome back to 2.26. There's no point trying kde as gnome pulled > in kde components that doesn't build either. Hopefully it's not 'mask > every package in gnome by hand'. > The way to hold packages back would be adding foo/bar -~arch to your package.keywords file. That way portage will only look at the stable packages. It's tedious to do it by hand (and I don't know any automated process), but if most of your system will be running ~arch then I'd suggest that you stay ~arch, and vice versa if most of the system is running arch. > At this point I'm left with a system that's not clean and to me not > terribly useful. Yesterday as stable I built xfce, gnome and kde in > under 4 hours and all 3 worked. Today both gnome and xfce aren't right > and I don't have kde. Probably this is some matter of learning to hold > back portage that I've never done before, rather than unleashing new > packages like you do on a stable system. > > How does one accomplish this? > > Thanks, > Mark > Hope it helps :-) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpg5d5RuLYNb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:13:40PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6
> it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 .
> Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already?
>
> Many thank for some info,
> Helmut.
>
> --
> Helmut Jarausch
>
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
>
There are some in overlays it would seem:
* x11-drivers/ati-drivers
Available versions:
(0) [M](~)8.522-r1[2] [M]8.552-r2 [M](~)8.593 [M](~)8.602[3]
[M](~)8.612[3] [M](~)9.5[3]
(1) [M](~)8.721 9.9-r2 9.10 9.11 (~)10.1 (~)10.2 (~)10.2[4] (~)10.3
(~)10.4_beta[1]
{acpi debug kernel_linux +modules multilib qt4}
Homepage:http://www.ati.com
Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r600 (HD Series) and
newer chipsets
[1] "arcon" layman/arcon
[2] "lordvan" layman/lordvan
[3] "pentoo" layman/pentoo
[4] "sabayon" layman/sabayon
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo via Gentoo ?
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 02:21:19PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > currently I am reading the Gentoo-Handbokk about installing a > new Gentoo-System via boot-CD. > > If I have a running Gentoo-Sytem on my PC...would it be > possible to install a new Gentoo-System on a fresh harddisk, > which is currently unpartitioned and unformatted electrically > wired with my PC (SATAII) ? > > Just an idea... > > Thanks a lot for any help in advance! > Best regards > mcc > > -- > Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > Should be, the most important thing for a Gentoo install is after all a commandline after all :-) (And the necessary tools the handbook assumes you have as they are on the boot-cd) -- Zeerak Waseem pgpPdBcQhJ3z5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing Gentoo via Gentoo ?
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:57:05PM +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: > On 04/18/10 22:21, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > currently I am reading the Gentoo-Handbokk about installing a > > new Gentoo-System via boot-CD. > > > > If I have a running Gentoo-Sytem on my PC...would it be > > possible to install a new Gentoo-System on a fresh harddisk, > > which is currently unpartitioned and unformatted electrically > > wired with my PC (SATAII) ? > > Yes, you should be able to, installing Gentoo is basically just copying > a bunch of files to a partition in a harddisk, nothing magical. > > However, you will have to be able to compile a compatible kernel from > your PC. Compatible usually means either your PC have the same > architecture as your laptop (which means everything should be already > setup) or you have to cross-compile the kernel. > > I've never done kernel cross-compiling, but it's definitely possible, > you just need to modify modify some of the Makefile manually (search on > google for a howto). > > Also, I'm not sure whether a bootloader installation needs to mess with > the BIOS. I *think* it shouldn't, as the low-level booting process > between the box and the harddisk is controlled by BIOS from MBR and > grub/lilo is just installing onto the MBR. > > About the bootloader shouldn't one set that up on the individual machine? I'm sure everything but the bootloader could be done from another machine, but my guess is a bootcd would be necessary for the actual bootloader. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpK58CXifMrG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Issue
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:14:35AM -0400, CJoeB wrote: > Hi, > > I had wireless working just fine back when I was using the > 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 kernel. Since upgrading to the 2.6.30 series of > kernels, I haven't been able to get it working. I was using the ipw3945 > driver, but this driver needs TKIP and something else (don't remember > what) set in the cryptographic section of the kernel source. I can't > seem to find where that is located, if it is in the kernel that I am > currently running - 2.6.31-gentoo-r10. > > I've tried using the corresponding driver within the kernel, but I still > get told that my wireless connection does not exist and that I should > verify the hardware or kernel module driver. > > I have also always used wireless-tools. I know wpa_supplicant is > supposed to be better because you can enable WEP encryption, but I tried > to set that up too and I still get told that my wireless connection does > not exist and that I should verify the hardware or kernel module driver. > > I'd be happy just using wireless-tools if I could get the ipw3945 driver > to build, but can't without TKIP. Does anyone know if this setting has > been taken out of the kernel source or if it is just located in some > obsure place that I can't find? > > Regards, > > Colleen > > -- > > Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org > > I'm sorry if I'm mistaken, or if this comes across as awfully rude but didn't you ask the same question back in March? Did you have a look at the replies from then to see if that could help with this issue? Also you can search within the kernel by entering '/' a search field will come up, and if you know part of the name (past thread of same title should reveal that), you should be able to locate it. Hope it helps -- Zeerak Waseem pgpSfFWvAWtmz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 32/64bit confusion
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:15:41AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/24/2010 11:53 PM, tpar...@etherstorm.net wrote: > > I have a new (first) gentoo amd64 install, multilib, and have been > > searching the docs, forums and google for information on how to handle > > emerges for 32bit programs on the 64bit install. > > > > I have found some references to using -bin for 32bit programs (example: > > "emerge wine-bin" to get the 32bit version or "emerge wine" to get the > > 64 bit version) but I haven't been able to get that to work; emerge > > wine-bin returns: 'emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "wine-bin".' > > There is no such package. There are only very few -bin packages. In > other words, "-bin" is not a magic string you append to package names. > > As for Wine, the ebuild changed recently to offer both 64bit as well as > 32bit Wine. I think the binaries are called "wine32" and "wine64". Two > new USE flags have been introduced to control this: "win32" and "win64". > By default, both are enabled. If you disable the "win64" USE flag, > you'll get only the 32bit Wine. And vice versa of course. > > A good idea might be to install the package app-portage/eix. It allows you to, amongst other things, to search for packages in case you're uncertain about a package name. The search will also tell you whether the package is installed, what version as well as what use-flags there are for the package. There are a lot of other benefits to this application so read the man page. As for 64 bit and 32 bit packages goes it really does depend on package, some only offer 32 or 64 bit, some offer both. You'll have to look into the use-flags of the packages. -- Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xulrunner emerge problem
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 05:49:48PM -0700, walt wrote: > On 09/21/2010 11:28 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > walt wrote: > > > >> On 09/20/2010 04:17 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >>> I am finding that when I try to emerge xulrunner on the recent update I > >>> get the following: > >> > >>> undefined reference to `PR_strtod' > >>> undefined reference to `PR_GetEnv' > >> > >> Those are defined in the nspr package. Do you have the latest nspr > >> installed? > > > OK, re-emerging nspr fixed the problem -- not sure what happened here. > > Experienced users know that you must sacrifice a chicken in front of your > computer > to obtain that information from the angry computer gods. > > I knew I had been doing something wrong. Getting rid of cow carcasses aren't as easy as you'd think. Butchers won't take them unless they're killed "humanely". I'm a human, sacrificing them to the computer gods. How much more humane can it get?! -- Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade: Active gcc profile is invalid!
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 07:45:58PM +0200, Jarry wrote: > Hi, > I just tried to upgrade gcc (stable amd64, from 4.4.3-r2 > to 4.4.4-r2) following the procedure recommended in Gentoo > GCC Upgrade Guide: > > emerge -uav gcc > > At the end of compilation, I got these strange messages: > > > * gcc-config: Could not locate 'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.3' > in '/etc/env.d/gcc/' > ! > * Please re-emerge gcc. > * http://bugs.gentoo.org/68395 That should do it :) -- Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout --> openrc ?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:54:25PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:19:51 +0100, Stroller wrote: > > > > ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, > > > so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that > > > when the devs decide to flip a keyword. > > > > I thought this was a matter of debate - Openrc was IIRC the creation of > > Roy Marples, who was originally a Gentoo dev and the baselayout > > maintainer. > > > > As Roy developed baselayout 2 (or "baselayout - The Next Generation", > > as you might call it) he decided to generalise it, AFAICT, in order to > > make it useful to other distros or unices (e.g. the BSDs). > > > Roy is no longer a Gentoo dev and is no longer maintaining Openrc: > > http://roy.marples.name/projects/openrc > > I sit corrected. > > > I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce55de133ca592b638db758c9e457370.xml > > An interesting read, until the rants start, we'll just have to wait and > see. > Well, there isn't any question as far as whether or not openrc is going to be stabilized, there is however a question of what's going to be put in ~arch afterwards, whether or not to use devicekit or whatever it's called now. I don't have time to find them myself, but check out the two threads named "The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo" and "openrc stabilization update". The general consesus is that for now openrc will be stabilized and the project has been brought back into Gentoo, so the question for now is what the future of ~arch is. On an end-note, I've been using openrc for about a year now on a fully ~arch system and it works like a charm :) -- Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout --> openrc ?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:59:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak
> Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly:
>
> > > > I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question:
> > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce55de133ca592b638db758c9e457
> > > > 370.xml
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > An interesting read, until the rants start, we'll just have to wait and
> > > see.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, there isn't any question as far as whether or not openrc is going to
> > be stabilized, there is however a question of what's going to be put in
> > ~arch afterwards, whether or not to use devicekit or whatever it's called
> > now. I don't have time to find them myself, but check out the two threads
> > named "The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo" and "openrc stabilization
> > update". The general consesus is that for now openrc will be stabilized
> > and the project has been brought back into Gentoo, so the question for now
> > is what the future of ~arch is.
>
>
> It's openrc-${PV}+1 - there's no question about that.
>
> Until someone actually ponies up and commits something other than openrc to
> the tree, it's gonna stay on openrc.
>
> I think you misunderstand what ~arch means.
I'll gladly be explained, just in case I should have it wrong. :-)
What I meant however was that there has been talk of starting a migration of
~arch users to devicekit when it is deemed ready. As far as I remember no
conclusion was brought to that discussion other than openrc being moved inhouse
and seeing how that went. So the ball is still in the air as far as openrc and
a replacement goes, to my understanding.
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Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout --> openrc ?
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 02:48:58AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:50 on Friday 22 October 2010, Zeerak
> Mustafa Waseem did opine thusly:
>
> > > It's openrc-${PV}+1 - there's no question about that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Until someone actually ponies up and commits something other than openrc
> > > to the tree, it's gonna stay on openrc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misunderstand what ~arch means.
> >
> > I'll gladly be explained, just in case I should have it wrong. :-)
> >
> > What I meant however was that there has been talk of starting a migration
> > of ~arch users to devicekit when it is deemed ready. As far as I remember
> > no conclusion was brought to that discussion other than openrc being moved
> > inhouse and seeing how that went. So the ball is still in the air as far
> > as openrc and a replacement goes, to my understanding.
>
>
> ~arch is the collection of unstable ebuilds in portage; stuff that is good
> enough for a release but not yet fully tested within a Gentoo system. With
> enough successful feedback from users, it is marked stable and moves to
> "arch".
>
> ~arch is not experimental, stuff planned for the future, someone's wicked
> overlay or anything else other than stable releases in a *gentoo* test phase,
> i.e. it's not so much the software that's being tested but the ebuild.
>
It seems I understood then, though it seems I haven't clearly portrayed my
understanding, but thanks for explaining anyway :)
> devicekit stands very little chance of ever being the default. It depends on
> dbus and expat. Remember hal and all the crap that came along with it? Gentoo
> is not Ubuntu or Fedora, it is installable on anything from ARM phones to
> IBM's gigantic hard iron. Why on earth would anyone mandate dbus to be
> compulsory on a headless server for example?
>
> If you want to know what the future holds for Gentoo, best not to listen much
> to a bunch of dudes rambling on gentoo-dev and blogs. They're just talking,
> and talk is cheap. If you want to know what the future holds for @system and
> the toolchain, vapier is a good one to listen to. So's the council, GLEPs and
> whatever happens in voting. The kong thread that's been mentioned in this
> thread has a gem of a quote from vapier, something like:
>
> "People saw Roy moving away from Gentoo, and freaked out."
>
> That's it, nothing more. Some dudes freaked out.
>
> Besides, lookee here:
>
> nazgul ~ # eix -e devicekit
> * sys-apps/devicekit
> Available versions: (~)003 {doc}
> Homepage:http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit
> Description: D-Bus abstraction for enumerating devices and
> listening for device events using udev
>
> nazgul ~ # eix -e dbus-glib
> [I] dev-libs/dbus-glib
> Available versions: 0.86 (~)0.88 {bash-completion debug doc static-libs
> test}
> Installed versions: 0.88(00:25:33 12/10/10)(bash-completion -debug -doc
> -static-libs -test)
> Homepage:http://dbus.freedesktop.org/
> Description: D-Bus bindings for glib
>
> nazgul ~ # eix systemd
> No matches found.
>
> devicekit has one version (003) and systemd doesn't even have an ebuild in
> the
> tree. That system is probably sitting about where openrc was when Roy had
> gotten to 20% of where he eventually took it.
>
> openrc works, it has three outstanding edge case blocker bugs. What possible
> technical reason is there to go chasing butterflies down some totally
> unproven
> path?
>
In this case I'm completely with you. While there are nifty features in systemd
it is nothing that can't be achieved by other means and openrc really does work
brilliantly (for me) so I'm not exactly against systemd, I just don't see a
point in using it. Other than aligning with other distros, but then what's the
point of having different distributions if they all are alike :)
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[gentoo-user] Portage (and other packages) downgrade?
Hey guys,
I'm having some strange behaviour from portage. Last week it downgraded
chromium, which happens from time to time, so I didn't think too much about it.
Today when updating portage seemed to want to downgrade itself from alpha3 to
2.1.9. As well as downgrading pidgin (this is without greater importance).
I just don't quite see why it wants to be downgraded as I have portage in my
package.unmask.
I've attatched my emerge --info, perhaps someone can identify the issue? Or
just tell me that there is no issue and everyone is having this experience?
Anyway, thanks for the help :)
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Zeerak Waseem
app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.6.6-r1, 3.1.2-r4
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.1
sys-apps/openrc: 0.6.3
sys-apps/sandbox:2.3-r1
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.68
sys-devel/automake: 1.8.5-r4, 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.5
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10
sys-devel/make: 3.82
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
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gentoo
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sync: rsync://rsync21.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
priority: 1000
arcon
location: /var/lib/layman/arcon
masters: gentoo
priority: -1
pure-funtoo
location: /var/lib/layman/pure-funtoo
masters: gentoo
priority: -2
roslin
location: /var/lib/layman/roslin
masters: gentoo
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akoya
location: /var/lib/layman/akoya
masters: gentoo
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x11
location: /var/lib/layman/x11
masters: gentoo
priority: -5
cauthorn_overlay
location: /var/local/portage
masters: gentoo
priority: -6
ABI="amd64"
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
ACCEPT_PROPERTIES="*"
ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug
rate route share shm softvol"
ANT_HOME="/usr/share/ant"
APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm
authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host
authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir
disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info
log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling
status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias"
ARCH="amd64"
ASFLAGS_x86="--32"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CDEFINE_amd64="__x86_64__"
CDEFINE_x86="__i386__"
CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
CFLAGS_x86="-m32"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CHOST_amd64="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CHOST_x86="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CLEAN_DELAY="5"
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/etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d
/etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
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"${URI}""
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\"\$1\"" sftp "${DISTDIR}/${FILE}" "${URI}""
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\"\${x%%/*}:/\${x#*/}\" \"\$1\"" rsync "${DISTDIR}/${FILE}" "${URI}""
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itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3
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[gentoo-user] Maya 2011 anyone
Hey guys,
I've been trying to install Maya 2011 for some time now. I get the rpms
unpacked
(http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=15770983&linkID=9242259)
with no major difficulties.
The dynamic linking needed is in place (ebuild I'm writing to make life easier
for other people is attatched) as far as I can tell.
The problem occurs when I attempt to run it. I get (What I've found to be error
20) an error with the licensing despite having a valid license.
Questions are:
Does anyone have maya 2011 running on their gentoo box, and possibly willing to
help?
If not then is anyone willing to help? This has me boggled, I've tried to the
best of my knowledge to make it run but can't seem to get past it.
I've primarily followed this (http://etoia.free.fr/?p=1611) article on how to
install.
The only deviation has been not copying to /usr, /var, there's nothing needing
/etc, and /opt.
I've the instruction of exporting the maya path has been followed although it's
been directed to where the maya install is, rather than to /usr/autodesk/maya...
Help would be much appreciated :)
--
Zeerak Waseem
# Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: Maya-2011 for x86 and amd64$
# RPM versions within the tarballs which will get installed
# Matchmover is a camera tracking tool
# Adlmapps is needed to activate
# Adlclient and server are needed to activate
# There is no support for backburner at the current time
# Backburner can distribute cputime to another computer
# Backburner monitor can monitor same with webmonitor
# Toxik is a film compositing tool
# Maya is a 3d editing tool
# Mayadocs for documentation
inherit rpm eutils versionator
IUSE="bundled-libs backburner backburner-monitor backburner-webmonitor doc
matchmover toxik openmotif"
S="${WORKDIR}"
DESCRIPTION="Autodesk's Maya. Commercial modeling and animation package"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/index.shtml";
# Patches to download go into SRC_URI
SRC_URI="autodesk_maya_2011_sp1_linux_64bit.tgz"
RESTRICT="fetch nouserpriv"
SLOT="$(get_version_component_range 1-2)"
LICENSE="maya-11.0 mayadoc-11.0"
# Still having trouble getting the docs working right.
KEYWORDS="~amd64"
DEPEND="app-arch/rpm2targz app-arch/tar"
RDEPEND="|| ( app-shells/tcsh app-shells/csh )
x11-libs/libxcb app-admin/gamin dev-libs/libgamin
media-libs/libquicktime dev-lang/python media-libs/audiofile
sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs media-libs/openal
media-libs/libpng:1.2
amd64? (
!bundled-libs? ( x11-libs/libXpm x11-libs/libXmu x11-libs/libXt
x11-libs/libXp x11-libs/libXi x11-libs/libXext
x11-libs/libX11
x11-libs/libXau x11-libs/libxcb )
bundled-libs? ( app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs )
bundled-libs? ( app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs )
bundled-libs? ( app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs )
openmotif? ( x11-libs/openmotif ) ) "
MAYADIR="/opt/Autodesk"
pkg_nofetch() {
einfo "This ebuild expects your files to be placed in ${DISTDIR}:"
# einfo
# einfo "Downloads from Alias's support server:"
# einfo
"htp://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?linkID=9242259&id=15113998&siteID=123112"
}
src_unpack() {
# Unpack downloaded tarall containing RPMss
unpack ${A}
# Begin the mass rpm conversion/unpacking
rpm2cpio adlmapps3-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack adlmapps3-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm"
rpm2cpio adlmflexnetclient-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack adlmflexnetclient-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm"
rpm2cpio adlmflexnetserver-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmvu
assert "Failed to adlmflexnetserver-3.0.17-0.x86_64.rpm"
rpm2cpio Maya2011_0_64-2011.0-419.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack Maya2011_0_64-2011.0-419.x86_64.rpm"
if use doc; then
rpm2cpio Maya2011_0_64-docs_en_US_64-2011-88.x86_64.rpm | cpio
-idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack
maya2011_0_64-docs_en_US_64-2011-88.x86_64.rpm"
fi
# Due to backburner having to be in 32-bit and depending
# On packages such as glibc it is for now (with my current
# knowledge on ebuilds and such, not possible to support
# the install of backburner.
#
if use backburner ; then
rpm2cpio backburner.sw.base-2011-1470.i386.rpm | cpio -idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack backburner.sw.base-2011-1470.i386.rpm"
rpm2cpio autodesk.backburner.monitor-2011-377.i386.rpm | cpio
-idmvu
assert "Failed to unpack
autodesk.backburner.monitor-2011-377.i386.rpm"
fi
if use backburner-webmonitor ; then
rpm2cpio b
[gentoo-user] Calendar applications
Hey guys, I'm looking for a lightweight calendar application that can do the following things: Event handling (preferrably also a support for recurring events) Notification of events Handle several calendars at once (as in showing all calendars in one view and preferrably colour coded) Import of other calendars (iCal) I've been looking for an application that matches this but I can't seem to find any. Hope you guys have some suggestions -- Best Regards Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] Calendar applications
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:55:29AM +, Stroller wrote: > > On 30/12/2010, at 11:22pm, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > ... > > I'm looking for a lightweight calendar application that can do the > > following things: > > > > Event handling (preferrably also a support for recurring events) > > Notification of events > > Handle several calendars at once (as in showing all calendars in one view > > and preferrably colour coded) > > Import of other calendars (iCal) > > > > I've been looking for an application that matches this but I can't seem to > > find any. > > Hi there, > > I'm not being argumentative here, just curious: in what way doesn't Sunbird > meet these requirements? > > I'm more interested in calendaring servers (and unfortunately the choice of > those is pretty dire) and using Apple iCal on MacOS as a front-end, but those > sound like really basic requirements, and I'm surprised that any calendar > doesn't meet them. iCal certainly meets them all (even with basic local > storage), although I appreciate that's not much help to you. > Primarily because I tend to steer away from Mozilla products if I can (they just don't seem to feel right, somehow. (I know, great argument)). I absolutely wouldn't mind setting up a server and using some frontend, the question is just which front end. And when I set out to find calendar I really thought they were very basic requirements. My google-fu told me I was wrong. But yeah, Sunbird meets the requirements, I'd just prefer to go down another road (if there is one). -- Best Regards Zeerak Waseem
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Calendar applications
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:06:51AM -0800, walt wrote: > On 12/31/2010 08:35 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:55:29AM +, Stroller wrote: > >> > >> On 30/12/2010, at 11:22pm, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > >>> ... > >>> I'm looking for a lightweight calendar application that can do the > >>> following things: > >>> > >>> Event handling (preferrably also a support for recurring events) > >>> Notification of events > >>> Handle several calendars at once (as in showing all calendars in one view > >>> and preferrably colour coded) > >>> Import of other calendars (iCal) > >>> > >>> I've been looking for an application that matches this but I can't seem > >>> to find any. > >> > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I'm not being argumentative here, just curious: in what way doesn't > >> Sunbird meet these requirements? > >> > >> I'm more interested in calendaring servers (and unfortunately the choice > >> of those is pretty dire) and using Apple iCal on MacOS as a front-end, but > >> those sound like really basic requirements, and I'm surprised that any > >> calendar doesn't meet them. iCal certainly meets them all (even with basic > >> local storage), although I appreciate that's not much help to you. > >> > > > > Primarily because I tend to steer away from Mozilla products if I can (they > > just don't seem to feel right, somehow. (I know, great argument)). I > > absolutely wouldn't mind setting up a server and using some frontend, the > > question is just which front end. And when I set out to find calendar I > > really thought they were very basic requirements. My google-fu told me I > > was wrong. > > But yeah, Sunbird meets the requirements, I'd just prefer to go down > > another road (if there is one). > > Have you tried Evolution? It's intended to be an open-source replacement for > M$ Outlook. > It's a lot more than just a calendar client, though, so it's not lightweight.. > I was considering it, but the problem with evolution is that it does far more than I need it to. If I could strip away everything but the calendar I'd definately go for it. -- Best Regards Zeerak Waseem
