Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:00:40 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:38:45 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at > > > some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA > > > messages like this should not be shown to users. > > > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > > reports. > > Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see such > messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the ebuild? They see them, but only when they build packages, e.g. when making version bump. Eclass may become deprecated after last update of a package, in such case devs may not see such warning because they have no need to rebuild the package. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpAB9hzw17ZR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 02:53:53 + (UTC), James wrote:
> Well I have one system I need to migrate to eudev. All sorts of things
> are now calling for *systemd* and I do not want that at all.
>
> Here is the blockers on the latest list ::
>
> [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-225,
> sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/udev-225, sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
>
>
> So just emerge -C sys-apps/systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> sys-fs/udev
>
> and then emerge eudev?
If you don't mind the risk of breaking your system by randomly unmerging
important software.
First quickpkg all of then, then emerge -cpv them to see what needs them.
You shouldn't need any systemd packages on an openrc system, maybe you
need to change a USE flag or two.
--
Neil Bothwick
"Meow" "Woof" Jeez, it's really raining today.
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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 10:38:08 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:13:33 -0800 Willie Matthews wrote: > > On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I got a interesting problem: > > > > > > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for > > > example from YouTube and can hear the audio. > > > > > > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos > > > are playing fine...but without any sound. > > > > > > I have no clue, what happens here. > > > > > > Any help to fix that is very appreciated... > > > thank you very much in advance! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Meino > > > > It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and > > setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use. > > > > For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives > > me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections > > and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory. > > > > [Desktop Entry] > > Version=1.0 > > Type=Application > > Name=Chrome with Tor > > Comment=Start Chrome with Tor > > Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito > > --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/" > > Icon=google-chrome-unstable > > Path= > > Terminal=false > > StartupNotify=false > > > > I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you > > will have the same results. > > Be aware of privacy issues with such setup. Your browser may leak > DNS requests, e.g. use standard system calls and they will be sent > over casual network (not TOR), thus your provider will know what > resources your are visiting as well as owner of DNS service you use. > Chrome may leak other data in background as well. > > While such background traffic can be redirected to tor using tsocks > and iptables, this is not very trivial task. That is why tor browser > is useful: it does such stuff for you by ensuring that all browser > traffic is going via tor. You may use torbrowser overlay to use > this package in Gentoo. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko Have you tested Chromium and Firefox and confirmed they do not respect their proxy setting and leak DNS data, or are you saying that they might? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:00:07 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > > > reports. > > > > Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see > > such messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the > > ebuild? > > They see them, but only when they build packages, e.g. when making > version bump. Eclass may become deprecated after last update of a > package, in such case devs may not see such warning because they > have no need to rebuild the package. It still seems an awfully noisy and inefficient way of doing things. Can't the developer deprecating the eclass parse the tree for ebuilds still using it an d ping the developers, this sort of QA stuff should be automated , not rely on users seeing the messages and reporting rather than ignoring them. Anyway, the eclass has only been deprecated, the ebuild devs should be aware of this long before it is obsoleted. -- Neil Bothwick "There are no stupid questions, just too many inquisitive idiots." pgpgOxa7r6HQ3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev -> eudev
2016-02-08 20:53 GMT-06:00 James :
> Hello,
>
> Well I have one system I need to migrate to eudev. All sorts of things are
> now calling for *systemd* and I do not want that at all.
>
> Here is the blockers on the latest list ::
>
> [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-225,
> sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/udev-225, sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
>
>
> So just emerge -C sys-apps/systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> sys-fs/udev
>
You can only have one of sys-apps/systemd, sys-fs/udev or sys-fs/eudev
installed, portage won't let you install 2(since there's files
collision), see the contents of virual/udev, so there's no point in
trying to remove 2 of them from a system, "All softs of things are now
calling for systemd" isn't really digging into the problem, and being
honest not that many packages have sys-apps/systemd in any of *DEPEND,
you should check better why is systemd being pulled( emerge -pvt),
maybe some use flags misconfiguration.
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Jc García gmail.com> writes:
> > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> > sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> > [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> > ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-225,
> > sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> > [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> > sys-fs/udev-225, sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> > So just emerge -C sys-apps/systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> > sys-fs/udev
> You can only have one of sys-apps/systemd, sys-fs/udev or sys-fs/eudev
> installed, portage won't let you install 2(since there's files
> collision), see the contents of virual/udev, so there's no point in
> trying to remove 2 of them from a system, "All softs of things are now
> calling for systemd" isn't really digging into the problem, and being
> honest not that many packages have sys-apps/systemd in any of *DEPEND,
> you should check better why is systemd being pulled( emerge -pvt),
> maybe some use flags misconfiguration.
YES. I agree with you guys. I have -systemd in make.conf for a long time now.
Nothing depends on the sysmtemd flag or software, since forever. OpenRC here.
I synced last night and this blocking occurred, its new and I have not many
any changes on this system except for new packages. I suspect something low
level with udev, but I cannot find what's causing it.
on 'gentoo-dev' I read the thread on " Changing order of default
virtual/udev ". Being in the camp of 100% against systemd, something has
changed and I need help ferreting in out.
equery hasuse systemd
reveals nothing that has the systemd flag set. I should have changed over to
eudev a long time ago. So I need to remove whatever and make the change
now. I run lxde for a desktop, if that matters. Is there syntax to dive
deeper into what's causing this sudden change?
sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
udev::
[I] virtual/udev
Available versions: 215 ~217 {systemd}
Installed versions: 215(10:34:27 PM 02/15/2015)(-systemd)
So, for me it's time to take the risk and remove udev and install eudev.
I do appreciate guidance and wisdom and especially syntax ideas, but
the decision is already made.
Advice?
James
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
So I::
emerge -C sys-fs/udev
emerge eudev
no problems,
then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off::
sys-apps/systemd
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
On a normal, routine update, I have about 6 packages that need to
be compile. But now I still have these blockers::
[blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
eudev is now installed::
[I] sys-fs/eudev
Installed versions: 3.1.5(09:28:52 AM 02/09/2016)(hwdb kmod
-introspection -rule-generator -selinux -static-libs -test ABI_MIPS="-n32
-n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32")
ANY IDEAS how to discover and fix these (systemd) blockers. Remember
it's been openrc and sys-fs/udev for a long time and upon syncing last night
these (2) systemd centric packages are reaking havoc on my system that has
had "-systemd" in make.conf for a very long time.
Guidance?
James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On 09/02/2016 16:42, James wrote:
> James tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>
> Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
> So I::
>
> emerge -C sys-fs/udev
> emerge eudev
>
> no problems,
>
> then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off::
>
> sys-apps/systemd
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
>
>
> On a normal, routine update, I have about 6 packages that need to
> be compile. But now I still have these blockers::
>
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
>
>
> eudev is now installed::
>
> [I] sys-fs/eudev
> Installed versions: 3.1.5(09:28:52 AM 02/09/2016)(hwdb kmod
> -introspection -rule-generator -selinux -static-libs -test ABI_MIPS="-n32
> -n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32")
>
>
>
> ANY IDEAS how to discover and fix these (systemd) blockers.
Yes. The correct idea really should have been your first impulsive knee
jerk reaction, and it was JC's first answer (which you have not posted yet)
emerge -pvt
That always tells you exactly what is pulling in what. Just like the
docs have described for years.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:30:04 + (UTC), James wrote:
> sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
> gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something
you are installing as part of that update wants it. You have two choices:
1) Start uninstalling important stuff at random until either the
problem goes away or you break your system badly enough to need a
reinstall.
2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why,
then deal with that.
> udev::
> [I] virtual/udev
> Available versions: 215 ~217 {systemd}
> Installed versions: 215(10:34:27 PM 02/15/2015)(-systemd)
That's only the virtual, that can be satisfied by udev, eudev or systemd.
If you don't choose one, portage will choose for you.
> So, for me it's time to take the risk and remove udev and install eudev.
> I do appreciate guidance and wisdom and especially syntax ideas, but
> the decision is already made.
--
Neil Bothwick
Is it possible to be totally partial?
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Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:03:11 + Thomas Sigurdsen wrote: > Hoy, I'm currently on one Elitebook 2540p, it's an old one though > (something close to 7 years). I've attached my current kernel config. Yes old one, for me new cause i used since 2008 only atom netbooksm, now with ssd this system run. So fast my mind can not handle hhh :) > /usr/src/linux/ $ make localmodconfig && make localyesconfig && make > menuconfig && make -j5 && make modules_install && make > firmware_install && make install I run make defconfig and then activate / deactivate what i need. When i understand correct is localmodconfig & localyesconfig the same? The diffrence is only first activate all as modules, second compile in? I has now config run, i think the kernel 4.4.0-pf3 has bugs, cause is beta, with 4.1.0-pf4 now run all. http://pf.natalenko.name Thanks for config i will use. > My laptop might have (U)EFI but I have never done anything to it with > (U)EFI in mind. EFI must be activated in Bios to use it. But who need it when work all. Ok sure where nice if we can load iso files without usb but all is not possible. Thank you all for help & Nice Day Silvio pgp1ANHaZLdg8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 02:40:59 +0100 wrote: > This is ok because this file is just a symlink. Yes this has saw now, hhh is my first amd64 system. > I never used genkernel so I don't know if your home directory is the I used genkernel only when i compile the gentoo kernel with all modules, but this is do less. Genkernel now only good for background (fbsplash). > On my system the kernel sources are located here: > /usr/src/linux/ I use symlinks to bring kernel source in /usr/src. > For a SATA AHCI Controller these kernel options should be sufficient: > CONFIG_ATA > CONFIG_ATA_ACPI > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM This is set. > CONFIG_EXT4_FS > CONFIG_EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT2 > CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL > CONFIG_DNOTIFY > CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER > CONFIG_FANOTIFY Is set. For SSD must set special option in kernel config? > The error message you've seen could also be caused by a misconfigured > bootloader. Unfortunately you didn't tell us what bootloader you use. Grub2, when run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg should set all correct or? Filesystem i compile fix in, not as module. > I'm still using the old grub. I don't have any knowledge about grub2, > gummiboot or efibootmgr. If you use one of these I can't help you with > it's configuration. In this case the gentoo handbook should give you > the information that you need (or some other member of this list). Yes was thinking take old grub, but i decide for grub2, cause i hear can load iso files. But so really want not work. > You should carefully check your bootloader configuration. If for > example the path to your root-partition is wrong then your system > cannot boot. Now all run, after ten dry runs of kernel configs now all work. Self plymouth is running, only the dark gentoo theme missed, like slim-gentoo-simple. Thank you all & Nice day Silvio pgppWzs84U59o.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker?
> > gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker.
> It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something
> you are installing as part of that update wants it. You have two choices:
> 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why,
> then deal with that.
Like I said, I uninstalled udev and installed eudev.
I ran emerge -1 @system, after I installed eudev. All in @system recompile
without issue, just for grins.
I just ran "emrege -pvt udev" :: it responed with the singular listing
of eudev. So ran (again) emerge -vt eudev, and in compiled again.
so
'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows::
[ebuild N ] app-arch/lz4-0_p120::gentoo USE="{-test} -valgrind"
ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 159 KiB
[ebuild U ~] dev-embedded/gputils-1.4.0::gentoo [0.13.6-r1::gentoo]
9,434 KiB
[ebuild U ~] dev-embedded/sdcc-3.5.0::gentoo [2.5.0_p20060502::gentoo]
USE="boehm-gc%* sdcpp%* -device-lib% -doc -ds390% -ds400% -gbz80% -hc08%
-mcs51% -non-free% -packihx% -pic14% -pic16% -r2k% -r3ka% -s08% -sdbinutils%
-sdcdb% -stm8% -tlcs90% -ucsim% -z180% -z80%" 10,259 KiB
[ebuild N#] sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
-gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
-sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 3,823 KiB
[ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug -doc
(-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[ebuild N#] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4::gentoo 52 KiB
[ebuild N ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk introspection
systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)" 0 KiB
[ebuild R] net-print/cups-2.0.3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam python
ssl threads usb -debug -java -kerberos -lprng-compat (-selinux) -static-libs
-systemd -xinetd -zeroconf" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" LINGUAS="-ca -cs -de
-es -fr -it -ja -ru (-pt_BR%)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
[ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo [2.7.0-r2::gentoo] USE="blksha1
curl doc gpg iconv pcre perl python threads webdav -cgi -cvs -emacs
-gnome-keyring -gtk -highlight -libressl -mediawiki -mediawiki-experimental
-nls (-ppcsha1) -subversion {-test} -tk -xinetd" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
5,197 KiB
[ebuild U ] dev-java/asm-3.3.1-r1:3::gentoo [3.3.1:3::gentoo]
USE="source -doc" 0 KiB
[blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
Is it dbus?
[I] sys-apps/dbus
Installed versions: 1.8.16(08:41:28 AM 09/29/2015)(X -debug -doc -selinux
-static-libs -systemd -test ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64"
ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32")
The dbus flag for systemd is lit up, but eix does not reveal it is used to
compile ?
package.use has this entry::
sys-apps/dbus -systemd
Suggestions?
James
>
> > udev::
> > [I] virtual/udev
> > Available versions: 215 ~217 {systemd}
> > Installed versions: 215(10:34:27 PM 02/15/2015)(-systemd)
>
> That's only the virtual, that can be satisfied by udev, eudev or systemd.
> If you don't choose one, portage will choose for you.
>
sys-fs/udev is not installed any more, since the last posting. but the
virtual appears to say it is::
[I] virtual/udev
Available versions: 215 ~217 {systemd}
Installed versions: 215(10:34:27 PM 02/15/2015)(-systemd)
So YES, I am a bit confused here. udev is out. eudev is in and I still
have the blockers..
'emerge -uDNpt world
[nomerge ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4
[nomerge ] lxde-base/lxpanel-0.8.1
[nomerge ] x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3-r1
[nomerge ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.24.2-r1
[ebuild N ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 USE="gptfdisk introspection
systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)"
[nomerge ] dev-java/java-dep-check-0.3-r1
[ebuild U ] dev-java/asm-3.3.1-r1 [3.3.1]
[ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1 [2.7.0-r2]
[ebuild R] net-print/cups-2.0.3 LINGUAS="(-pt_BR%)"
[ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16 USE="systemd*"
[nomerge ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 USE="gptfdisk introspection systemd
-cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)"
[nomerge ] sys-apps/systemd-226-r2 USE="acl kdbus kmod lz4 lzma pam
seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils -gcrypt -gnuefi
-http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux) -sysv-utils {-test}
-vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)"
[ebuild N#] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4
[ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r2 USE="acl kdbus kmod lz4 lzma
pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audi
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a > > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a > > > blocker. > > > It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means > > something you are installing as part of that update wants it. You > > have two choices: > > > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, > > then deal with that. > > > > Like I said, I uninstalled udev and installed eudev. > I ran emerge -1 @system, after I installed eudev. All in @system > recompile without issue, just for grins. > > I just ran "emrege -pvt udev" :: it responed with the singular listing > of eudev. So ran (again) emerge -vt eudev, and in compiled again. > > so > 'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows:: THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the output you are trying to explain. -- Neil Bothwick ISDN: It Still Does Nothing pgpVgvA_giNYK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, > > then deal with that. So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp emerge -uvtp world ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo yippee ? emerge -uDNvtp world Conflict: 3 blocks (3 unsatisfied) Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >=sys-fs/eudev-1.3 required by (virtual/udev-215:0/0::gentoo, installed) sys-fs/eudev required by @selected (sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) Guidance? What's the replacement for udev? YES I am confounded.
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
>
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote:
>
> > > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a
> > > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a
> > > > blocker.
> >
> > > It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means
> > > something you are installing as part of that update wants it. You
> > > have two choices:
> >
> > > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why,
> > > then deal with that.
> > 'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows::
>
> THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the
> output you are trying to explain.
Below that one I used
'emerge -uDNvtp world'
and get those blockers.
emerge -utvp @world now comes back clean.
If I add 'UD' into those flags for an update, I still get the blockers.
emerge -uNtvp @world just wants to rebuild cups, so that is done now
>>> No outdated packages were found on your system.
emerge -uDtvp @world reveals the same trouble::
[ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug -doc
(-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
-gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
-sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 3,823 KiB
[ebuild N ] app-arch/lz4-0_p120::gentoo USE="{-test} -valgrind"
ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 159 KiB
[blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
sys-apps/systemd-226-r2, sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
Maybe emerge -1 @world, just for grins?
Guidance?
James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 10:27 GMT-06:00 James : > James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > >> > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, >> > then deal with that. > > So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp > > emerge -uvtp world > > ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo > > yippee ? > > emerge -uDNvtp world > > > > Conflict: 3 blocks (3 unsatisfied) > > Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > installed at the same time on the same system. > > (sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > >=sys-fs/eudev-1.3 required by (virtual/udev-215:0/0::gentoo, installed) > sys-fs/eudev required by @selected > > > > > (sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in > by > sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16:0/0::gentoo, > ebuild scheduled for merge) > sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2/2::gentoo, ebuild > scheduled for merge) > >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by > (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > > > Guidance? What's the replacement for udev? YES I am confounded. > > It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package use file(s), to know wich useflags might have been activated for udisks.
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the
> output you are trying to explain.
emerge -uDvtp @world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge ] sci-visualization/gri-2.12.23::gentoo USE="examples -doc
-emacs -hdf5"
[nomerge ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.9.0.3:0/6.9.0.3::gentoo USE="X
bzip2 corefonts cxx graphviz jpeg jpeg2k lzma openmp perl png postscript raw
tiff truetype wmf zlib -autotrace -djvu -fftw -fontconfig -fpx -hdri -jbig
-lcms -lqr (-opencl) -openexr -pango -q32 -q64 -q8 -static-libs -svg {-test}
-webp -xml"
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/ufraw-0.20-r1::gentoo USE="gimp openmp
-contrast -fits -gnome -gtk -timezone" 0 KiB
[nomerge ] dev-java/java-dep-check-0.3-r1::gentoo
[ebuild U ] dev-java/asm-3.3.1-r1:3::gentoo [3.3.1:3::gentoo]
USE="source -doc" 0 KiB
[nomerge ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4::gentoo
[nomerge ] x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3-r1:0/4.3.0::gentoo USE="automount
examples gtk udisks -debug -doc -exif -vala"
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gvfs-1.24.2-r1::gentoo USE="cdda http udev
udisks -afp -archive -bluray -fuse -gnome-keyring -gnome-online-accounts
-gphoto2 -gtk -ios -mtp -nfs -samba -systemd {-test} -zeroconf"
[ebuild N ]sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk
introspection systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)" 0 KiB
[nomerge ] media-gfx/ufraw-0.20-r1::gentoo USE="gimp openmp -contrast
-fits -gnome -gtk -timezone"
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/gimp-2.8.14-r1:2::gentoo USE="alsa bzip2 dbus
jpeg jpeg2k pdf png postscript python smp tiff wmf -aalib (-altivec) (-aqua)
-curl -debug -doc -exif -gnome -lcms -mng -svg {-test} -udev -webkit -xpm"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse" LINGUAS="-am -ar -ast -az -be -bg -br -ca
-ca@valencia -cs -csb -da -de -dz -el -en_CA -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi
-fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -kn -ko -lt -lv
-mk -ml -ms -my -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -si
-sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -tt -uk -vi -xh -yi -zh_CN -zh_HK
-zh_TW" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
[nomerge ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk introspection
systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)"
[nomerge ] sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
-gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
-sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)"
[ebuild N#] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4::gentoo 52 KiB
[ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug -doc
(-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
-gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
-sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 3,823 KiB
[ebuild N ] app-arch/lz4-0_p120::gentoo USE="{-test} -valgrind"
ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 159 KiB
[blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
Total: 8 packages (1 upgrade, 6 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 4,032 KiB
Conflict: 3 blocks (3 unsatisfied)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
(sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16:0/0::gentoo,
ebuild scheduled for merge)
sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2/2::gentoo, ebuild
scheduled for merge)
>=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
(sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
(sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-fs/eudev required by @selected
Guidance?
James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On 09/02/2016 18:13, James wrote: > Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > >>> sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker? >>> gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker. > >> It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something >> you are installing as part of that update wants it. You have two choices: > >> 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, >> then deal with that. > > > > Like I said, I uninstalled udev and installed eudev. > I ran emerge -1 @system, after I installed eudev. All in @system recompile > without issue, just for grins. > > I just ran "emrege -pvt udev" :: it responed with the singular listing > of eudev. So ran (again) emerge -vt eudev, and in compiled again. > > so > 'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows:: You are doing everything imaginable except what you should do - run with --tree Every time you ask "why is portage pulling this in?" then run the exact same emerge with --tree. emerge -pv --tree eudev WILL NOT show you what you want as eudev is not pulling in udev and causing blockers. Something else is so you need to look at world Please post the output of emerge -pvuNDt world AND NOTHING ELSE -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag > activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically > added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package > use file(s), to know wich useflags might have been activated for > udisks. # equery depends udisks * These packages depend on udisks: gnome-base/gvfs-1.24.2-r1 (udisks ? >=sys-fs/udisks-1.97:2) skipper portage # equery depends gvfs * These packages depend on gvfs: x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3-r1 (udisks ? gnome-base/gvfs[udev,udisks]) (!udisks ? gnome-base/gvfs[udev]) skipper portage # equery depends libfm * These packages depend on libfm: lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.0) lxde-base/lxpanel-0.8.1 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.0[gtk]) x11-misc/pcmanfm-1.2.3 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3[gtk(+)]) lxde-meta has no flag options to set, so this looks fixed. I guess I could change to another minimal desktop? I've been running this version of lxde-meta for about a year now and it has not been a problem before, at all, so I do not think this is a fruitful idea, but I could be wrong James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 10:50 GMT-06:00 James : > Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > >> It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag >> activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically >> added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package >> use file(s), to know wich useflags might have been activated for >> udisks. > > > # equery depends udisks > * These packages depend on udisks: > gnome-base/gvfs-1.24.2-r1 (udisks ? >=sys-fs/udisks-1.97:2) > skipper portage # equery depends gvfs > * These packages depend on gvfs: > x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3-r1 (udisks ? gnome-base/gvfs[udev,udisks]) > (!udisks ? gnome-base/gvfs[udev]) > skipper portage # equery depends libfm > * These packages depend on libfm: > lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.0) > lxde-base/lxpanel-0.8.1 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.0[gtk]) > x11-misc/pcmanfm-1.2.3 (>=x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3[gtk(+)]) > > > lxde-meta has no flag options to set, so this looks fixed. > I guess I could change to another minimal desktop? > > I've been running this version of lxde-meta for about a year now > and it has not been a problem before, at all, so I do not think > this is a fruitful idea, but I could be wrong > > > James equery will only tell info for what is installed not about what you are installing, and in a previous mail you posted : > so > 'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows:: ... > [ebuild N ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk introspection systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)" 0 KiB ... See? Thats why I told you to take a good look at what you have in package.use, equery won't tell you about that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:40:47 + (UTC), James wrote:
> emerge -uDtvp @world reveals the same trouble::
>
> [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug
> -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> [ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus
> kmod lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl
> -elfutils -gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode
> (-selinux) -sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)"
> 3,823 KiB [ebuild N ] app-arch/lz4-0_p120::gentoo
> USE="{-test} -valgrind" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 159 KiB
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> sys-apps/systemd-226-r2, sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
It also reveals the cause, not that you have used --tree. You are trying
to rebuild dbus with the systemd USE flag, no wonder it wants systemd!
Next step: grep -r systemd /etc/portage
--
Neil Bothwick
"A snooze button is a poor substitute for no alarm clock at all."
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:27:34 + (UTC), James wrote: > Guidance? What's the replacement for udev? YES I am confounded. There isn't one really, just three different implementations. systemd: with udev included udev:standalone taken from systemd eudev: a fork of udev Oops, before walt kicks off at me, I forgot mdev from busybox. All are basically udev. The only other alternative, which may be suitable for your embedded systems but not so much for a desktop, is to use a static /dev. -- Neil Bothwick Yes, I've heard of "decaf." What's your point? pgpcqPteTBrs0.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > lxde-meta has no flag options to set, so this looks fixed. > > I guess I could change to another minimal desktop? > > > > I've been running this version of lxde-meta for about a year now > > and it has not been a problem before, at all, so I do not think > > this is a fruitful idea, but I could be wrong > > > > > > James > > equery will only tell info for what is installed not about what you > are installing, and in a previous mail you posted : > > > so > > 'emerge -uDNvp world' now shows:: > ... > > [ebuild N ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk introspection > systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)" 0 KiB > ... > > See? Thats why I told you to take a good look at what you have in > package.use, equery won't tell you about that. Granted. But the point is it's my desktop. udisk cannot be removed without changing the entire desktop. That a bit extreme. But if there is a cool, minimialistic desktop (lxqt?) that avoids all derivative dependencies on systemd && company, then that is very useful information for me, as I'll just spin up a new primary workstation and move my codes as necessary. But it looks to me as iff something changed with dbus, as all of this happend *after* a --sync last night. I do appreciate all ideas! James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 16:47:28 James wrote:
> Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the
> > output you are trying to explain.
>
> emerge -uDvtp @world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge ] sci-visualization/gri-2.12.23::gentoo USE="examples -doc
> -emacs -hdf5"
> [nomerge ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.9.0.3:0/6.9.0.3::gentoo USE="X
> bzip2 corefonts cxx graphviz jpeg jpeg2k lzma openmp perl png postscript raw
> tiff truetype wmf zlib -autotrace -djvu -fftw -fontconfig -fpx -hdri -jbig
> -lcms -lqr (-opencl) -openexr -pango -q32 -q64 -q8 -static-libs -svg
> {-test} -webp -xml"
> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/ufraw-0.20-r1::gentoo USE="gimp openmp
> -contrast -fits -gnome -gtk -timezone" 0 KiB
> [nomerge ] dev-java/java-dep-check-0.3-r1::gentoo
> [ebuild U ] dev-java/asm-3.3.1-r1:3::gentoo [3.3.1:3::gentoo]
> USE="source -doc" 0 KiB
> [nomerge ] lxde-base/lxde-meta-0.5.5-r4::gentoo
> [nomerge ] x11-libs/libfm-1.2.3-r1:0/4.3.0::gentoo USE="automount
> examples gtk udisks -debug -doc -exif -vala"
> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gvfs-1.24.2-r1::gentoo USE="cdda http udev
> udisks -afp -archive -bluray -fuse -gnome-keyring -gnome-online-accounts
> -gphoto2 -gtk -ios -mtp -nfs -samba -systemd {-test} -zeroconf"
> [ebuild N ]sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk
> introspection systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)" 0 KiB
> [nomerge ] media-gfx/ufraw-0.20-r1::gentoo USE="gimp openmp -contrast
> -fits -gnome -gtk -timezone"
> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/gimp-2.8.14-r1:2::gentoo USE="alsa bzip2 dbus
> jpeg jpeg2k pdf png postscript python smp tiff wmf -aalib (-altivec) (-aqua)
> -curl -debug -doc -exif -gnome -lcms -mng -svg {-test} -udev -webkit -xpm"
> CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse" LINGUAS="-am -ar -ast -az -be -bg -br -ca
> -ca@valencia -cs -csb -da -de -dz -el -en_CA -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi
> -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -kn -ko -lt -lv
> -mk -ml -ms -my -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -si
> -sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -tt -uk -vi -xh -yi -zh_CN -zh_HK
> -zh_TW" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
> [nomerge ] sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2::gentoo USE="gptfdisk introspection
> systemd -cryptsetup -debug (-selinux)"
> [nomerge ] sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
> lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
> -gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
> -sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)"
> [ebuild N#] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4::gentoo 52 KiB
> [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug -doc
> (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> [ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo USE="acl kdbus kmod
> lz4 lzma pam seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -elfutils
> -gcrypt -gnuefi -http -idn -importd -nat -policykit -qrcode (-selinux)
> -sysv-utils {-test} -vanilla -xkb" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 3,823 KiB
> [ebuild N ] app-arch/lz4-0_p120::gentoo USE="{-test} -valgrind"
> ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 159 KiB
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
> ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
> [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
>
> Total: 8 packages (1 upgrade, 6 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 4,032
> KiB Conflict: 3 blocks (3 unsatisfied)
>
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
> (sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled
> in by sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16:0/0::gentoo,
> ebuild scheduled for merge)
> sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4:2/2::gentoo, ebuild
> scheduled for merge)
>
> >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
>
> (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>
> (sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> sys-fs/eudev required by @selected
>
>
> Guidance?
>
> James
James, the guidance has already been given. Can you please grep for systemd
ALL of your /etc/portage? There seems to be a USE flag set somewhere and this
is what is pulling in dbus *with* systemd.
--
Regards,
Mick
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[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > emerge -uDtvp world reveals the same trouble::
> >
> > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug
> > -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> It also reveals the cause, not that you have used --tree. You are trying
> to rebuild dbus with the systemd USE flag, no wonder it wants systemd!
Agreed! In fact I have suspicioned either udev or dbus pretty early.
In fact I have -systemd in make.conf for a long time time, but somebody
got around that. I have this setting in package.use::
sys-apps/dbus -systemd
for a while now, but to no avail?
> Next step: grep -r systemd /etc/portage
# grep -r systemd /etc/portage
/etc/portage/package.mask:sys-apps/systemd
/etc/portage/package.mask:sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
/etc/portage/make.conf:threads vaapi glamor python -systemd smp "
/etc/portage/package.use/package.use:sys-apps/dbus -systemd
/etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd
/etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:# required by
sys-apps/systemd-226-r2::gentoo
/etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:# required by
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4::gentoo
/etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16 systemd
/etc/portage/package.unmask:# Needs sys-apps/systemd. Masked for non systemd
profiles.
/etc/portage/package.unmask:# required by sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo[systemd]
/etc/portage/package.unmask:=sys-apps/systemd-226-r2
/etc/portage/package.unmask:# required by
sys-apps/systemd-226-r2::gentoo[-vanilla]
/etc/portage/package.unmask:# required by sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4::gentoo[systemd]
/etc/portage/package.unmask:=sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4
/etc/portage/make.conf.archive/make.conf.15mar2015:qt3support threads vaapi
glamor python -systemd smp "
/etc/portage/make.conf.archive/make.conf.3apr2015:qt3support threads vaapi
glamor python -systemd smp "
/etc/portage/make.conf.archive/make.conf.sept17-2015:threads vaapi glamor
python -systemd smp "
/etc/portage/make.conf.archive/make.conf.21jun2015:threads vaapi glamor
python -systemd smp "
/etc/portage/make.conf.archive/make.conf.24feb2015:qt3support threads vaapi
glamor python -systemd "
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Yep, I'm all ears! Futher guidance ?
James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 11:17 GMT-06:00 James : > Granted. But the point is it's my desktop. udisk cannot be removed without > changing the entire desktop. That a bit extreme. But if there is a cool, > minimialistic desktop (lxqt?) that avoids all derivative dependencies > on systemd && company, then that is very useful information for me, > as I'll just spin up a new primary workstation and move my codes > as necessary. But it looks to me as iff something changed with dbus, > as all of this happend *after* a --sync last night. > Nobody said you should remove udisks or dbus, just check their useflags(grep -r systemd /etc/portage) and reinstall them with new proper useflags. > I do appreciate all ideas! > Why give you more if you keep ignoring them
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James : > > # grep -r systemd /etc/portage ... > /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd look at that file and that line why that was activated.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 11:28 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > 2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James : > >> >> # grep -r systemd /etc/portage > ... >> /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd > > look at that file and that line why that was activated. and delete it, and change the useflags for the package that might have caused it if any.
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Mick gmail.com> writes: > James, the guidance has already been given. Can you please grep for systemd > ALL of your /etc/portage? There seems to be a USE flag set somewhere and this > is what is pulling in dbus *with* systemd. YES. I forgot Neil had told me to periodically remove this file:: /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask and I cleaned out package.unmask from autounmask that inserted systemd flag requirements. emerge -uDvtp @world shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere what no packages with require systemd can be installed. I never contiously overrode that concern. It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd. All else is optional. Where's that setting? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James : > emerge -uDvtp @world > shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm > missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > what no packages with require systemd can be installed. I never contiously > overrode that concern. It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd. > All else is optional. Where's that setting? The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
2016-02-09 11:39 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > 2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James : > >> emerge -uDvtp @world >> shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere >> what no packages with require systemd can be installed. I never contiously >> overrode that concern. It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd. >> All else is optional. Where's that setting? > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile I forgot USE as environment variable, so: USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > Mike and Neil help me:: rm /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask and I cleaned out package.unmask from autounmask that inserted systemd flag requirements. by deleting anything that had systemd as a flag setting forgot about those 2. dirty laundry still :: > emerge -pvuNDt world I've posted that result, but it is greatly reduced now, after the above manual cleansing. See below. > AND NOTHING ELSE # emerge -pvuNDt world Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB clean! Thanks everyone! James
[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > >> What I'm > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > >> what no packages with require systemd can be installed. > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile Hmmm. Remember I posted that this package.use setting besides make.conf -system was there for a long time now:: # cat /etc/portage/package.use/package.use | grep systemd sys-apps/dbus -systemd So where does the magic "-systemd" setting go to override all? You know, one ring to rule them all? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 17:55:54 James wrote: > Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > >> What I'm > > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > > >> what no packages with require systemd can be installed. > > > > > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > > > > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile > > Hmmm. Remember I posted that this package.use setting besides > make.conf -system was there for a long time now:: > > > # cat /etc/portage/package.use/package.use | grep systemd > sys-apps/dbus -systemd > > > So where does the magic "-systemd" setting go to override all? > You know, one ring to rule them all? > > > James Are you approaching this from the wrong angle? systemd is not installed as a default. Unless you have asked for it, by selecting a systemd make.profile, or specifying it as you had in your package.use, it should not pop in. I some Gnome package must have it then you'll spot this as soon as you try to emerge it. Therefore I am not sure that you need to do anything else. You can have it within your make.conf, as it won't hurt, but I don't think it is necessary. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:55:54 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile > > Hmmm. Remember I posted that this package.use setting besides > make.conf -system was there for a long time now:: > > > # cat /etc/portage/package.use/package.use | grep systemd > sys-apps/dbus -systemd > > > So where does the magic "-systemd" setting go to override all? > You know, one ring to rule them all? YOU put the systemd USE flag in /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask. If you hadn't put it there, you wouldn't feel the need to override it. It got there because the autounmask feature of portage put it in a config protected file and then you enabled it with etc-update or similar. The real question is, if you are so vehemently opposed to systemd, why did you tell etc-update to enable that USE flag? You could override it in a file that is parsed after zzz-autounmask, but what would be the point? Portage put it there because one of your package/USE choices required it. If you do override it, portage will refuse to update until you fix things, which you should have done in the first place instead of running etc-update without looking to see what it was going to do. -- Neil Bothwick Speak softly and carry a cellular phone. pgp8aH9he3siV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:42:55 -0600, Jc García wrote: > >> It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd. > >> All else is optional. Where's that setting? > > > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile you could probably put something like "*/* -systemd" in /etc/portage/package.use/zzz but autounmask would still offer you a change to that file if your choices required systemd. -- Neil Bothwick "A hundred years of forgetting and it all comes rushing back..." pgpdW9EH5p6VP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
"siefke_lis...@web.de" wrote: > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? No. But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:42:05 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? > > No. > > But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. > Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. The use of discard is discouraged in many places, because it can impact performance. Running fstrim weekly from cron, at a time things are quiet, is generally preferred. -- Neil Bothwick Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.Richard Feynman pgpGaGflOoDWH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:42:05 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? > > > > No. > > > > But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. > > Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. > > The use of discard is discouraged in many places, because it can > impact performance. Running fstrim weekly from cron, at a time things > are quiet, is generally preferred. This depends on the SSD. On my old SSD (Corsair with sandforce controller) discard slowed down write performance significantly. On my new SSDs (Samsung 850 Pro) I don't notice a performance impact. But you are right. With a cronjob he will be on the safe side regardless what kind of SSD is inside his laptop. But a one week interval could IMHO maybe too long. I think trimming the SSD every day (maybe on shutdown) would be a better idea. With my old SSD I first used the discard option in fstab. But after some days I noticed that write performance was not much better then with a conventional hardisk. So I wrote a script that trimmed the SSD on every shutdown with fstrim. This process was very slow, about 20 Minutes or so. With the 850 Pro, fstrim needs only some seconds to trim the disk, even when it trims the entire free space. Before I've used the discard option with my 850 Pro SSDs, I run fstrim manually before my weekly backups. I noticed that always the complete free space was trimmed. So I decided to run fstrim manually every day for some time. I experienced, that even then some GB of the free space were trimmed, on some days even all. This depended on how much data was written on my daily update procedure. If there were none or only some small compilations during the update then the trimmed amount of data was about some GB, but when some bigger programs were updated then nearly all of the free space was trimmed. After some days I give the discard option a try. As I couldn't notice a performance impact I decided to stay with it. -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:34:06 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > The use of discard is discouraged in many places, because it can > impact performance. Running fstrim weekly from cron, at a time things > are quiet, is generally preferred. Okay, i change now the option in fstab and installed the cronjob from wiki. Thank you all for help, very nice. Nice Day Silvio Siefke
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo and texlive
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:51:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Welcome back! Did you finish all your trabajo with your PhD and tenure, etc?
