Re: [gentoo-user] apcupsd - not emailing me when power down

2015-06-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Jun 2015 23:53:31 Joseph wrote:
> My remote box is connected direclty to apcups and it is running "apcupsd"
> However, when I pull the cord out of the wall the "onbattery" script is not
> email me anything.
> 
> My configuration: apcupsd.conf
> 
> UPSCABLE usb
> UPSTYPE usb
> DEVICE
> POLLTIME 60
> LOCKFILE /var/lock
> SCRIPTDIR /etc/apcupsd
> PWRFAILDIR /etc/apcupsd
> NOLOGINDIR /etc
> ONBATTERYDELAY 6
> BATTERYLEVEL 60
> MINUTES 10
> TIMEOUT 0
> ANNOY 300
> ANNOYDELAY 60
> NOLOGON disable
> KILLDELAY 0
> NETSERVER on
> NISIP 0.0.0.0
> NISPORT 3551
> EVENTSFILE /var/log/apcupsd.events
> EVENTSFILEMAX 10
> UPSCLASS standalone
> UPSMODE disable
> STATTIME 0
> STATFILE /var/log/apcupsd.status
> LOGSTATS off
> DATATIME 0
> 
> onbattery - script suppose to be called by "/etc/apcupsd/apccontrol" and
> execute it. What am I missing?

I don't have this UPS to know what its scripts are doing, but have you 
configured the /etc/apcupsd/onbattery script with your email address and have 
you installed a mail application to handle emailing tasks on your system?

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[gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all,
Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
"Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.

My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and Gwenview,
but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
probably display this behaviour as well.

Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Dale
Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
> Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>
>   My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and Gwenview,
> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
> probably display this behaviour as well.
>
>   Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>
>   Andrew
>
>


Well, if it is a missing USE flag or something, I'm missing it to and
have been for a LONG time now.  Mine has a lot of nothingness to it too. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
there have been no changes in my config files.

Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen) hidden
& make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.

Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the pager,
the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid image
when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse away.
However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always.

Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Paul Klos

Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:

Hi all,
Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
"Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.

My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and 
Gwenview,

but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
probably display this behaviour as well.

Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,

Andrew


Hi Andrew,

If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I 
do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of 
nothingness.


For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the 
source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size, 
width, height and the date it was last modified.


Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered, 
which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.


As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no 
idea.


Paul




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
> > 
> > already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
> > heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
> > "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
> > a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
> > Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
> > 
> > My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
> > 
> > moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
> > in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
> > disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
> > Gwenview,
> > but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
> > probably display this behaviour as well.
> > 
> > Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
> > 
> > Andrew
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
> nothingness.
> 
> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
> width, height and the date it was last modified.
> 
> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
> 
> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
> idea.
> 
> Paul

From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.

Have you tried this?

-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] which keymap and keyboard setup

2015-06-07 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie  writes:

> Hello, Lee.
>
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 11:33:47PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>
>> which keymap are we supposed to use for a keyboard that has 122 keys?
>
> I think you might have to roll your own.  As a warning, this can't be
> done in a single hour.

It seems so --- I looked at the provided keymaps and found that they are
an awful mess of including many maps into another to somehow finally get
a desired result.

The problem I currently have is that the function keys F12--F24 (and
some others) send two key presses rather than their own keycodes.  So
first I need to get the keyboard itself out of the mode it's in.  And I
found that the keyboard works fine when going into the BIOS and doesn't
work at all when booting, already at the stage when grub shows it's
menu.  When that happens, I need to unplug the keyboard, and it works
when I plug it back in. When I don't enter the BIOS before booting, the
keyboard works fine.

Other than that, I switched to the US layout, and what the keys do now
basically matches their labels.

> As a matter of interest, what are all the extra keys for?  What legend is
> embossed upon them, and where are they, physically, relative to the
> "qwerty" part of the keyboard?

There's a bunch of keys on the left side of the keyboard, in two rows:


|--+---|
| SysRq| ScrLk |
| Esc  |   |
| Attr |   |
|--+---|
| Print| Pause |
| Screen   | Clear |
| SysRq| Break |
|--+---|
| Print| Help  |
|--+---|
| Record   | Play  |
|--+---|
| [window] | Menu  |
|--+---|


There are 24 function keys, and the layout of the cursor keys is like
a plus sign because there's a Home key in the middle of the arrows.
The keys above that are kinda weird because there's a backspace and
what looks like an Enter key, with Drop/Insert/Zoom and Delete in the
middle and PgUp and PgDown on the left.  The end key is part of the
keypad.

That will take a while to get used to.

I like having extra keys so I can put something onto them, like
switching to particular windows, starting applications and
emacs-functions I frequently use.  I'm using a lot of virtual desktops,
all the windows usually fullscreen, so it's much easier and faster to
press, for example, F24 to switch to or between emacs frames than it is
to go through the window list or to find an empty desktop to look at the
pager to figure out where the window is I want to switch to.

Just use something like:


DestroyFunc WarpToEmacs
AddToFunc WarpToEmacs
+ I Next ("Emacs")  WarpToWindow 50 50


and bind that to a key.  Since F13--F24 are usually not used by
anything, they'd be perfect for things like this.  That these stupid
"Windoze"-keys don't get in the way of the Ctrl and Alt keys is a big
advantage --- I hate those, yet now I can actually make use of them
because they are located conveniently.

Other than that, Unicomp keyboards are hard to get here as you need to
import them, which involves more or less unforeseeable costs (shipping
and taxes).  Fortunately, there was a good offer on ebay, and they not
only handle the international shipping at bearable rates and customs but
even tell you exactly what it will cost.  So you pay that and get it
shipped to your door without any further ado, just like anything else
you order online.  Without that, I would have to pay as much or even
more for shipping alone as I pay for the keyboard itself.

> My comments from this point on are about the console keyboard.  I don't
> know much about X keyboards, though I do have a little utility,
> xfce4-xkb-plugin, in my XFCE which swaps from British to German layout at
> the click of a mouse.  My console keyboard is an extensively enhanced
> version of a British layout, with the seven German letters on
> a/o/u/s, and many extra key combinations that are needed in Emacs,
> together with combinations for arrow-keys, etc.

That sounds as if you could use a keyboard that has more keys :)

With some, if not most, keyboards that feature an US layout, you simply
do not have the keys for some of the letters needed for German.  And
without having the physical keys, you can adjust your layout all you
want, it will still suck :)

So I made sure to get a keyboard that does have these keys.  Of course,
they have different labels, but I don't mind.  And I have a Model M at
hand, so I guess I could even switch out the keycaps to get the correct
labels if I wanted to.

>> And which keyboard type are we supposed to specify?  There's pc_102,
>> pc_105 and whatnot; is there such a thing as pc_122, too?
>
> I doubt it.  Probably, you'll be just fine with pc_105.  Try it!  (Where
> is this set, by the way?  I set mine to pc_105, but forgotton where I did
> it).

It's in a (snippet) of xorg.conf, see
http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/input/XKB-Config.html

You can also switch layouts by pressing a key combination.

>> So far, I plugged the keyboard in

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>> My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> 
> Have you tried this?
> 

No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
be view or preview???

Thanks for the suggestion,

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>> My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example,
if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
>
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only
if you
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>
> Have you tried this?
>

I have the same problem as the OP and I do have it set to show
previews.  I always figured this was a bug and would be fixed at some
point but it sure has been a while since it worked.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 07.06.2015 um 01:40 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:11:04 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>
>>> I've bunch of php files in many directories
>>> and I need to find a text string in them "Check/Money Order"  
>> 'cd' to the lowest dir which contains them all,
>> then 'grep -r "Check/Money Order" *.php'.
> That will only search *.php files in the current directory, you need

nope

>
> grep -r --include='*.php' 'Check/Money Order' .

not true either.





Re: [gentoo-user] which keymap and keyboard setup

2015-06-07 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie  writes:

> Hello, Peter
>
> On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Saturday 06 June 2015 11:22:45 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> > :-)  I have a Filco mechanical keyboard, which works well.  Does your new
>> > keyboard need more desk space than a standard one?  That would be a
>> > negative feature for me.
>
>> I wonder how much better these are than my 105-key Cherry with its 
>> mechanical 
>> key switches. It isn't quiet, but it doesn't need to be since I'm the only 
>> one 
>> here. I deliberately went for a proper keyboard rather than those nasty 
>> rubber-sheet jobs.
>
> My Filco has Cherry keys in it.  I seem to remember from researching it a
> few years back, Cherry keys come in several weights of action, and some
> of them have an audible click, some don't.  An audible click would drive
> me crazy.

Buckling springs buckle and rattle, they don't click --- I do like that
sound :)

MX blues don't klick, so I guess what sound you get depends on the rest
of the keyboard.  The one I have sounds like plastic, which it is, and
I don't like that sound.  If they were clicking, that probably would
only make it worse ...


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Re: [gentoo-user] which keymap and keyboard setup

2015-06-07 Thread lee
Peter Humphrey  writes:

> On Saturday 06 June 2015 11:22:45 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 11:33:47PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> > BTW, this keyboard is awesome.  It's just as if you had a Model M, but
>> > still new, and there isn't anything better available new.  I've been
>> > using those for about 20 years now and wanted a new one since quite a
>> > while, now finally managed to get a Unicomp ... Get one if you can; live
>> > is too short for bad keyboards.
>> :
>> :-)  I have a Filco mechanical keyboard, which works well.  Does your new
>> keyboard need more desk space than a standard one?  That would be a
>> negative feature for me.
>
> I wonder how much better these are than my 105-key Cherry with its mechanical 
> key switches. It isn't quiet, but it doesn't need to be since I'm the only 
> one 
> here. I deliberately went for a proper keyboard rather than those nasty 
> rubber-sheet jobs.

They are better than the rubber junk.  They are worlds away from
buckling springs.

I have a keyboard here with MX blue switches.  They are supposed to give
"tactile feedback", yet all they do is quietly click, and there isn't
really any such feedback.  They are too easy to press, too, and they
don't feel as sturdy but rather wobbly.

I cannot type at all on that keyboard because I constantly mistype.  The
keys must be arranged somehow subtly different, so I do not blame the
switches for that.  I guess it's too small.

With buckling springs, I just know exactly whether I pressed a key or
not.  The MX switches leave me to guessing.

It all comes down to personal preference and what works for one.  If you
think about replacing a Model M or a Unicomp that has buckling springs
with a keyboard has MX switches, think twice about it.  Best get one
first and try it out for a couple days to see if you like it.  For me,
there is no way that I could replace a buckling spring keyboard with an
MX one.  It's simply not a replacement, and, of course, not intended to
be one.

I could probably use an MX keyboard just fine, provided that the keys
are decently arranged unlike on the one I have.  But I have no reason to
other than that buckling spring keyboards are hard to come by, and I
don't want to.

And where is a decent keyboard for an acceptable price (which AFAIK
excludes Filco) that has MX switches and isn't designed for gamers so
that all keys work?  I might have bought one from Corsair (Aluminium is
sure nice), and I didn't because not all keys will work.


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Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 06.06.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Joseph:
> I've bunch of php files in many directories and I need to file a text
> string in them "Check/Money Order"
>
> I've tried:
> find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Check/Money Order'
> it doesn't work.
>
> What is a better method of searching files?

grep -R 'whateveryourarelookingfor /path/to/directory/tree/

seriously, why make everything fucking harder with find, when grep alone
can do it for you?



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Dale
Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
>>
>> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
>> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
>> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>>
>> Have you tried this?
>>
>   No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> be view or preview???
>
>   Thanks for the suggestion,
>
>   Andrew
>
> .
>


In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
make sure there wasn't something new here.

You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Paul Klos
Op zondag 7 juni 2015 08:02:04 schreef Dale:
> Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>
> >> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if 
> >> you 
> >> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> >> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> >>
> >> Have you tried this?
> >>
> > No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> > referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> > application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> > be view or preview???
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > .
> >
> 
> 
> In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
> expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
> have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
> while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
> make sure there wasn't something new here.
> 
> You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 
Well, nothing substantial comes to mind, but I have a few suggestions/questions 
to investigate.

Have you tried with another, or a new, user?

Do you use a custom theme? If so, you could switch it back and see if that 
makes any difference/

Is your disk full?

Are both directories local, or are you copying to or from a remote directory?

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 14:59:51 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> >> 'cd' to the lowest dir which contains them all,
> >> then 'grep -r "Check/Money Order" *.php'.  
> > That will only search *.php files in the current directory, you need  
> 
> nope

The shell expands the *.php to a list of matching files in the current
directory. You need a . to mtch the current directory.


-- 
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He who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime.


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Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/06/2015 15:00, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 06.06.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Joseph:
>> I've bunch of php files in many directories and I need to file a text
>> string in them "Check/Money Order"
>>
>> I've tried:
>> find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Check/Money Order'
>> it doesn't work.
>>
>> What is a better method of searching files?
> 
> grep -R 'whateveryourarelookingfor /path/to/directory/tree/
> 
> seriously, why make everything fucking harder with find, when grep alone
> can do it for you?
> 


because the youngsters of today think they know everything and lack the
skills to see they know very little

Actually, it's not surprising because strange as it may seem, the skill
to exercise competence is the same skill that recognises it


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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:51:40 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
 
> > From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if
> > you have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads
> > of thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> > 
> > Have you tried this?
> 
>   No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> be view or preview???
> 
>   Thanks for the suggestion,
> 
>   Andrew

In Dolphin or Konqueror, go to the main menu and under View you will see an 
entry called Preview.  Click on it to select it.  I don't know if this will 
fix your problem, but it is something to try.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/06/2015 14:24, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>> My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> 
> Have you tried this?
> 


I have that enabled, but previews still do not show up in the "file
already exists" dialog. They do however show up in dolphin's sidebar
panel (activated with F11)

So there is something else here that also plays a role

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] which keymap and keyboard setup

2015-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/06/2015 15:00, lee wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie  writes:
> 
>> Hello, Peter
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> On Saturday 06 June 2015 11:22:45 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 :-)  I have a Filco mechanical keyboard, which works well.  Does your new
 keyboard need more desk space than a standard one?  That would be a
 negative feature for me.
>>
>>> I wonder how much better these are than my 105-key Cherry with its 
>>> mechanical 
>>> key switches. It isn't quiet, but it doesn't need to be since I'm the only 
>>> one 
>>> here. I deliberately went for a proper keyboard rather than those nasty 
>>> rubber-sheet jobs.
>>
>> My Filco has Cherry keys in it.  I seem to remember from researching it a
>> few years back, Cherry keys come in several weights of action, and some
>> of them have an audible click, some don't.  An audible click would drive
>> me crazy.
> 
> Buckling springs buckle and rattle, they don't click --- I do like that
> sound :)


My trusty Model M, using which this very mail was typed, still buckles
and rattles after god-only-knows how many years use[1].

I can use it as a stand-in cricket bat, or a weapon to fend off thieves
in the night, and it will still buckle, rattle and type. I call that a
quality keyboard.


[1] And every legend on the keys is still perfect! I wonder if the
legends are moulded all the way through.


-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/07/2015 10:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 07/06/2015 14:24, Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
 Hi all,

 Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it

 already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
 heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
 "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
 a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
 Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.

My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm

 moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
 in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
 disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
 Gwenview,
 but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
 probably display this behaviour as well.

Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,

Andrew
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>>> nothingness.
>>>
>>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>>
>>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>>
>>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
>> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
>> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>>
>> Have you tried this?
>>
> 
> 
> I have that enabled, but previews still do not show up in the "file
> already exists" dialog. They do however show up in dolphin's sidebar
> panel (activated with F11)
> 
> So there is something else here that also plays a role
> 
Same here.



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> So there is something else here that also plays a role
>>
> Same here.
> 

Hi all,

I may have a solution for you. I noticed this behaviour some time back,
except I had two workstations - one worked, and one didn't. So I went to
compare the two machines (which took a very long time) and discovered
kdelibs is built differently on the one that shows the previews. It
appears the default USE flags do not enable this functionality.

That overwrite dialog is in kdelibs and it looks like it depends on
nepomuk (semantic desktop support) that is marked deprecated.

I enabled a few use flags trying to correct the problem, but I'm pretty
sure it's the nepomuk USE flag that fixed it.

# emerge -pv kdelibs

[ebuild   R] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="acl
alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k lzma nepomuk nls openexr opengl
(policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf (-altivec) (-aqua)
-debug -doc -kerberos {-test}" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse sse2 -3dnow" 0 KiB

This appears to pull:

[IP-] [  ] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14
[IP-] [  ] kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14

in to be built, and nepomuk-core has a ffmpeg dependency:

[ebuild   R] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg migrator pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 0 KiB

I'm currently building kdelibs with the nepomuk USE-flag on my other PC
(the one that does not work), will report back if it's successful.

Dan




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Same here.
> 

Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
did indeed fix it.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Paul Klos
Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Same here.
> > 
> 
> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> did indeed fix it.
> 
> Dan
> 
Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Same here.
> 
> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> did indeed fix it.
> 
> Dan

Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?

(I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
150607 Philip Webb wrote:
> Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
> there have been no changes in my config files.
> 
> Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen) hidden
> & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
> I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.
> 
> Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
> even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the pager,
> the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid image
> when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse away.
> However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always.

I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.

> Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/07/2015 10:31 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> Same here.
>>
>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>> did indeed fix it.
>>
>> Dan
> 
> Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?
> 
> (I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).
> 

I only set the USE-flag on kdelibs on the machine that didn't work, and
it works now. I did an `emerge -pvuDN world` after setting the flag, and
there were five packages rebuilt (some new - two nepomik packages for
sure - but I don't remember fully.)

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> Same here.
>>>
>>
>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>> did indeed fix it.
>>
>> Dan
>>
> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
> 

I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-07 Thread Chris Spackman
On 2015/06/07 at 01:57pm, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150607 Philip Webb wrote:
 
> > Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

> So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

I am a Fluxbox user, but haven't updated, so cannot comment. 

I have been using this for several weeks with no issues:

  version: Fluxbox 1.3.6-gentoo-r1 : (c) 2001-2015 Fluxbox Team

  eix fluxbox:
   [I] x11-wm/fluxbox
   Installed versions:  1.3.6-r1(10:56:38 AM 05/17/2015)(imlib
  nls slit toolbar truetype -bidi -vim-syntax -xinerama)

Sorry I cannot help. When I do upgrade (probably next week), I will
check for the behavior you found.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-07 Thread Mick
Hello Philip,

On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:
> 150607 Philip Webb wrote:
> > Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
> > there have been no changes in my config files.

Same here.


> > Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
> > hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
> > I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.

My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.


> > Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
> > even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
> > pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
> > image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
> > away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
> > always.

I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.  Do you still have the problem 
if you remove Fbpager?

Something I noticed is that the toolbar  will not show if hidden, until I move 
the cursor 1-2 inches or more from the right edge of the toolbar.  I have a 
clock on the right hand side and I need to come left well beyond it and into 
the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.  In any other position 
the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.  Now, if your Fbpager is where 
my clock happens to be (the right hand edge of the toolbar) then we have come 
across the same bug.  However, there is no flickering here.  The toolbar 
either shows up, or it does not.  So the flickering could be related to the 
canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.


> I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
> However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
> the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
> The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
> 
> > Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
> 
> So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

PS. I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.  
Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.  
Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop 
and you should be pretty much at home with it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:31 AM, Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Same here.
>>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>>> did indeed fix it.
>>>
>>> Dan
>> Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?
>>
>> (I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).
>>
> I only set the USE-flag on kdelibs on the machine that didn't work, and
> it works now. I did an `emerge -pvuDN world` after setting the flag, and
> there were five packages rebuilt (some new - two nepomik packages for
> sure - but I don't remember fully.)
>
> Dan
>
>


Mine looks something like this.

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/xapian-1.2.19::gentoo  USE="brass chert
inmemory -doc -static-libs" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse sse2" 3,101 KiB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/shared-desktop-ontologies-0.11.0::gentoo 
3,875 KiB
[ebuild U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.9:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.6-r1:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k
lzma nepomuk* nls opengl (policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower
zeroconf -acl (-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test}"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="3dnow mmx sse sse2" 11,374 KiB
[ebuild  N ] kde-base/kfilemetadata-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -mobi -taglib" 36 KiB
[ebuild  N ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="(-aqua)
-debug -minimal" 143 KiB
[ebuild  N ] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg migrator pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 375 KiB
[ebuild  N ] kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
USE="(-aqua) -debug" 48 KiB
[ebuild U ~] kde-apps/kopete-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="addbookmarks autoreplace contactnotes
handbook highlight history nowlistening pipes privacy ssl statistics
texteffect translator urlpicpreview xmpp yahoo zeroconf (-aqua) -debug
-gadu -groupwise -jingle -latex -meanwhile -oscar -otr -skype -sms
-testbed -v4l -webpresence -winpopup" 0 KiB
[ebuild U ~] kde-apps/kdebase-data-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="wallpapers (-aqua)" 0 KiB
 

I also had to enable the crypt USE flag for some reason, not related to
this I think. 

Now to let it compile away for a bit while I give my grass a hair cut.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
150607 Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:
>> Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
>> there have been no changes in my config files.
> Same here.
>> Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
>> hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
>> I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.
> My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.

So your experience is not directly relevant.

>> Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
>> even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
>> pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
>> image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
>> away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
>> always.
> I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.
> Do you still have the problem if you remove Fbpager?

Please read what I wrote (smile) ! 
"However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always" :
that is not the expected behaviour, ie what I get with 1.3.6-r1 ,
when moving the mouse over the toolbar area makes it appear.

> Something I noticed is that the toolbar will not show if hidden,
> until I move the cursor 1-2 inches or more from its right edge.
> I have a clock on the right hand side and need to come left well beyond it
> and into the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.

That shouldn't be happening : it doesn't happen for me with 1.3.6-r1 .

> In any other position the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.
> Now, if your Fbpager is where my clock happens to be
> -- the right hand edge of the toolbar --
> then we have come across the same bug.

It's to the left (please read what I wrote above)
& you are experiencing part of what's gone wrong with 1.3.7 ,
but not all of it :

> However, there is no flickering here :
> the toolbar either shows up or does not.  So the flickering
> could be related to the canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.

It's caused somehow by the presence of the pager.

>> I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
>> However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
>> the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
>> The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
>> Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
>> Are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?
> PS I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.  
> Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.  
> Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop 
> and you should be pretty much at home with it.

I've been a contented user of Fluxbox for some years,
so I hope I don't have to drop it.

It looks like a bug report is needed.  The Fluxbox WWW site warns
that 1.3.7 was released after  2 yr  break & may need lots of testing.

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[gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
Hi all,

Not really Gentoo-related (well except the overheating part - lots of
compiling ;-) )

I have a very old laptop. It is an LG F1 laptop (circa 2005/2006 I
believe) about nine years old. This has a Core2 1.6GHz chip and 4GB RAM,
even though it only sees 3GB (that should tell you it's pretty old!)

Anyway, I noticed during my last compile-fest on my laptop (reinstalled,
switched to systemd for testing) that a corner of the laptop is getting
really hot. We are talking a fair bit of heat here, you can't keep it on
your lap when it warms up.

So I took it apart yesterday, figuring I should re-do the thermal paste.
During this process, I discovered it's the southbridge ICH chip that's
overheating. There's no cooler at all on this chip (the northbridge and
CPU have heat piping), it's a bare chip.

Now, I suspect there's not much I can do about this given it being a
laptop and I might have to resign myself to the fact that I'm going to
have to buy a laptop later this year/early next year.

I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
something about it?

I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.

Dan



[gentoo-user] Update: OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
Regarding my other thread started some time ago, I finally fixed it
after a lot of experimentation.

I had to do several things to make mdadm work properly with dracut/systemd:

1. I had to add rd.auto=1 to kernel options in grub;
2. Upgraded to mdadm-3.3.2-r1;
3. Installed dracut-041;
4. Installed systemd 218-r3
5. I also changed kdmrc to use the systemd reboot/shutdown.

Now my PC doesn't have a fit every time I reboot/shutdown.

Dan



[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-07 Thread James
Daniel Frey  gmail.com> writes:
 
> Hi all,

> I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
> something about it?

There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
with an air compressor. Sometime to add more cooling, I'd get a couple of
pieces of 1/2" x 1/2" wood and place under the laptop to increase the air
space under the laptop for increase air circulation.

HAVIT® HV-F2056 15.6"-17" Laptop Cooler - Three Quiet 110mm Fans at 1,000RPM, 

Last, I think some folks make a "cooling pad" for laptops. If you have
agressive compile options (like mine MAKEOPTS="-j9 -l9") in your 
make.conf, slow them way down (-j1) etc.


> I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
> particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
> I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.


hth,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?

2015-06-07 Thread James
Bruce Hill  happypenguincomputers.com> writes:



> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
> sure about the former."


Your probably looking in the mirror too much. 












Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?

2015-06-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 June 2015 06:09:30 CEST, James  wrote:
>Bruce Hill  happypenguincomputers.com> writes:
>
>
>
>> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and
>I'm not
>> sure about the former."
>
>
>Your probably looking in the mirror too much. 

Considering it was Albert Einstein that said that, this sounds like a 
compliment.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/06/2015 06:05, James wrote:
> Daniel Frey  gmail.com> writes:
>  
>> Hi all,
> 
>> I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
>> something about it?
> 
> There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
> for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
> with an air compressor. Sometime to add more cooling, I'd get a couple of
> pieces of 1/2" x 1/2" wood and place under the laptop to increase the air
> space under the laptop for increase air circulation.
> 
> HAVIT® HV-F2056 15.6"-17" Laptop Cooler - Three Quiet 110mm Fans at 1,000RPM, 
> 
> Last, I think some folks make a "cooling pad" for laptops. If you have
> agressive compile options (like mine MAKEOPTS="-j9 -l9") in your 
> make.conf, slow them way down (-j1) etc.

Good advice.

When designing their latop, LG probably never considered what Gentoo
users would do to it :-)
> 
> 
>> I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
>> particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
>> I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.
> 
> 
> hth,
> James
> 


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-07 Thread Franz Fellner
James wrote:
> Daniel Frey  gmail.com> writes:
>  
> > Hi all,
> 
> > I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
> > something about it?
> 
> There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
> for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
> with an air compressor.

If you really blow out your laptop make sure the fans are fixed. If they
start turning while you blow into them they really can destroy your hardware.
Induction can be really bad ;)

> Sometime to add more cooling, I'd get a couple of
> pieces of 1/2" x 1/2" wood and place under the laptop to increase the air
> space under the laptop for increase air circulation.
> 
> HAVIT® HV-F2056 15.6"-17" Laptop Cooler - Three Quiet 110mm Fans at 1,000RPM, 
> 
> Last, I think some folks make a "cooling pad" for laptops. If you have
> agressive compile options (like mine MAKEOPTS="-j9 -l9") in your 
> make.conf, slow them way down (-j1) etc.
> 
> 
> > I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
> > particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
> > I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.
> 
> 
> hth,
> James





Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 06.06.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Joseph:
>> I've bunch of php files in many directories and I need to file a text
>> string in them "Check/Money Order"
>>
>> I've tried:
>> find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Check/Money Order'
>> it doesn't work.
>>
>> What is a better method of searching files?
>
> grep -R 'whateveryourarelookingfor /path/to/directory/tree/
>
> seriously, why make everything fucking harder with find, when grep alone
> can do it for you?
>

I'm not the OP but I was not able to make 'grep -R' work properly with 
file or directory names containing spaces. I fiddled with IFS but in the 
end I found 'find -print0' was more convenient. Are there better methods 
with grep and shell alone?

raffaele


Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/06/2015 08:05, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am 06.06.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Joseph:
>>> I've bunch of php files in many directories and I need to file a text
>>> string in them "Check/Money Order"
>>>
>>> I've tried:
>>> find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Check/Money Order'
>>> it doesn't work.
>>>
>>> What is a better method of searching files?
>>
>> grep -R 'whateveryourarelookingfor /path/to/directory/tree/
>>
>> seriously, why make everything fucking harder with find, when grep alone
>> can do it for you?
>>
> 
> I'm not the OP but I was not able to make 'grep -R' work properly with 
> file or directory names containing spaces. I fiddled with IFS but in the 
> end I found 'find -print0' was more convenient. Are there better methods 
> with grep and shell alone?
> 
> raffaele
> 

grep deals with spaces in directory and file names just fine.

If you want to specify directory or file names on the command line that
contain spaces, you must quote them. Standard shell technique.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-07 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/08/2015 02:23 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Same here.

>>>
>>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>>> did indeed fix it.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
>>
> 
> I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
> use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 

Interesting observation. Long story way, but I hate the whole
nepomuk/akonadi stuff and disable it where I can. Looking at kdelibs
shows that, yes it is disabled. This just begs the question, why is the
ability to show two thumbnails side by side dependant on a file indexer?

As to nepomuk being deprecated,, according to its website:

https://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk

it's on the way out and something called Baloo in the new greatest
thing/debacle since sliced bread.

I might have a look at kdelibs as to why there is this dependency, but
it looks like I'm going to have to live without my preview pictures

Thanks to all who offered ideas etc,
Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] search files for "text string"

2015-06-07 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/07/2015 09:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 06.06.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Joseph:
>> I've bunch of php files in many directories and I need to file a text
>> string in them "Check/Money Order"
>>
>> I've tried:
>> find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Check/Money Order'
>> it doesn't work.
>>
>> What is a better method of searching files?
> 
> grep -R 'whateveryourarelookingfor /path/to/directory/tree/
> 
> seriously, why make everything fucking harder with find, when grep alone
> can do it for you?
> 
> 
Take a breath, there is no need for swearing. It belittles your
argument. It also paints you as an uneducated buffoon - which I'm
assuming you aren't.

Regards,
Andrew