Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad mistaken(?) for Logitech Wheel Mouse
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 21:16 +0100, Johan Blåbäck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Johan Blåbäck > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think your /proc/bus/input/devices looks quite right - are you > > > sure this isn't a pointer stick or something? What's the complete file > > > look like? > > > > I'm not familar with the term "pointer stick". a pointer stick is a stupid little button-like think in the middle of your keyboard (usually at the intersection of the g, b, and h keys). You push it in a direction, and the mouse starts moving in that direction. They were popular before touchpads were standard. Anyway, if you don't have one, then good! > This is my complete /proc/bus/input/devices: ok. Are you sure it's a synaptics touchpad? Otherwise I'm out of ideas, sorry... -- Iain Buchanan The attacker must vanquish; the defender need only survive. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset
Collin: it may not be a "5-second rule". It may just be cutting it off after a certain amount of traffic has passed based on the protocol/port used. But I'm just speculating. Let's hear what fire-eyes has to say. -- - Mark Shields I don't have the pcap file yet ;) Not much I can do. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what isn't required to boot a system/what can be trimmed from a backup
forgottenwizard wrote: I'm messing around with doing backups via rsync to an external hard drive, and I'm wanting to be able to strip out unneeded files from the backup (these will be archived by, probably, dar or tar later on), and was wondering if someone knew what I could strip out. Thanks. I'm not sure if I am following you or not but I back up /boot /dev /home /sbin /var /bin /data /etc /lib /opt /root /usr when I do mine. /data is where I store most of my data. I skip /sys, /proc and /tmp since those are usually made by the kernel and /tmp is stuff that is cleared out when booting anyway. If you are asking what I think you are asking, you should be able to leave out /sys, /tmp and /proc and be fine. YMMV. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 12:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Amar Cosic wrote: > > There should be gentoo-chat list > > There is one. We call it gentoo-user. > > It's a rite-of-passage thing. When you figure out the *real* purpose of > gentoo-user, then we let you into the inner circle. lol. So long as I don't have to eat the cookie. -- Iain Buchanan You can't have everything. Where would you put it? -- Steven Wright -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 04:12 -0500, Dale wrote: > I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. > Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. I just installed Gentoo on a quad-core dual-cpu Xeon E5420 (2.50GHz). 8Gb RAM, 800Gb raid. It's not mine - I've only convinced the sysadmin to let me play until it needs to be used for something real (what a waste to have those cpu's doing nothing, I thought, so let's install Gentoo :) MAKEOPTS="-j9" ... -- Iain Buchanan "The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was." -- Walt West -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > I have 3.5 as monolithic and 4.0 meta. What concerns me is that > adding "xcomposite" will not re-emerge anything from 4.0 - and there > is where I need/want it. OK, I see what you mean. Try this hacked-together list instead: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ cd /var/portage/kde-base/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ grep -ir composite * | grep '4.0' | grep ebuild | cut -f1 -d: | sort | uniq kdebase/kdebase-4.0.1.ebuild kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.1-r1.ebuild kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.2.ebuild krunner/krunner-4.0.1-r1.ebuild krunner/krunner-4.0.2.ebuild kwin/kwin-4.0.1.ebuild kwin/kwin-4.0.2.ebuild libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.1.ebuild libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.2.ebuild plasma/plasma-4.0.1.ebuild plasma/plasma-4.0.2.ebuild Short version: kdelibs krunner kwin libtaskmanager plasma -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia/usb tv tuner
Thank you Neil, Markus, I really forgot to tell you, I need analog tuner. Here I have cable tv with analog channels. I check the mentioned cards. Thank you, István -- BSA. Mert megérdemlitek. Open Source. Mert megérdemlem. -- BSA. They value it. Open Source. The value. It. -- http://www.osbusiness.hu -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what is "a normal rsync"?
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Enviado por: news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/03/2008 04:33 Por favor, responda a gentoo-user Para: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org cc: Asunto: [gentoo-user] Re: what is "a normal rsync"? On 2008-03-12, Shawn Haggett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> I'm behind a firewall that doesn't allow rsync connections, so >> I did a emege-webrsync. It appears to have downloaded and >> installed a current snapshot and updated the portage cache: >>*** Completed websync, please now perform a normal rsync if possible. >>Update is current as of the of MMDD: 20080310 >> What is meant by "perform a normal rsync"? > I assume it would mean the normal "emerge --sync" if you can, which you > can't. I would assume it would say this since the rsync would be more up > to date then the webrsync snapshot OK, but why would one have done a webrsync in the first place unless doing an "emerge --sync" wasn't possible? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Catsup and Mustard at all over the place! It's visi.comthe Human Hamburger! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list *** AFAIK emerge-webrsync downloads one single tar.bz2-ed file and then expands it to obtain the portage tree, while normal rsync checks for differences in every file and then fetches the new ones. My guess is that normal rsync is faster when your current copy of the Portage tree is almost up-to-date, since just a files will be downloaded, however, if your copy is old, you'll make it easier just getting a whole copy of the tree (even if it isn't the latest one). Does the community agree? Abraham -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad mistaken(?) for Logitech Wheel Mouse
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 21:16 +0100, Johan Blåbäck wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Johan Blåbäck > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't think your /proc/bus/input/devices looks quite right - are you > > > > sure this isn't a pointer stick or something? What's the complete > file > > > > look like? > > > > > > I'm not familar with the term "pointer stick". > > a pointer stick is a stupid little button-like think in the middle of > your keyboard (usually at the intersection of the g, b, and h keys). > You push it in a direction, and the mouse starts moving in that > direction. They were popular before touchpads were standard. Anyway, > if you don't have one, then good! > Nope, don't have one of those. > > > This is my complete /proc/bus/input/devices: > > ok. Are you sure it's a synaptics touchpad? Otherwise I'm out of > ideas, sorry... > Yes, I'm sure. When booting a Ubuntu Live >= 7.04 I get a synaptics touchpad, detectable and all. > -- > > Iain Buchanan > > The attacker must vanquish; the defender need only survive. > > -- > > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia/usb tv tuner
Pongracz Istvan wrote: > I really forgot to tell you, I need analog tuner. > Here I have cable tv with analog channels. > > I check the mentioned cards. Both cards that Neil and I mentioned are digital tuners and will therefore not be of any use for your requirements. Regards mks -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce Go 6800 and nvidia-drivers ==> Cannot switch to ttys or close X
andrea wrote: ... The X session loads smooth with no errors and no warnings but after X is loaded there is no way to come back to the framebuffer console (pressing CTRL+ALT+F* or closing the session). I get an almost white screen with some distorsion. If I come back pressing CTRL+ALT+F7 I see my X session up n running. The same happens if I close my session and then write "startx" on the white screen. I have a brand new session running with no problems and no errors. I'm afraid I can't provide any help on this, but wanted to mention that I experience exactly the same behaviour with my GeForce Go 6800 (TurboCache). And this is not only for the current driver, but has been the case ever since i own this notebook (it's an Acer Travelmate 4150LMi). The nvidia driver version at the time I got it was 1.0-7184, and was already broken back then. I would really love to see a solution for this, since not being able to leave X is pretty annoying. I should mention that on this system I have Debian installed, and used kernel.orgs vanilla kernel + nvidia driver from their homepage ever since. Regards, Patric PS: Hi list! :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
This should be a nice start: [EMAIL PROTECTED] equery h -p xcomposite [ Searching for USE flag xcomposite in all categories among: ] * installed packages * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [ ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.8 (3.5) [-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kwin-3.5.9 (3.5) [-P-] [M~] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r1 (3.5) [-P-] [M~] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.9 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.8 (0) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/krunner-4.0.2 (kde-4) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/plasma-4.0.2 (kde-4) [-P-] [ ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 (3.5) [-P-] [ ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.4.1-r1 (0) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/libtaskmanager-4.0.2 (kde-4) [-P-] [ ~] kde-base/libtaskmanager-4.0.1 (kde-4) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/kwin-4.0.2 (kde-4) [-P-] [M~] kde-base/kdebase-4.0.1 (kde-4) [-P-] [M ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.4.1 (0) [-P-] [ ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.4.2 (0) [-P-] [M~] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.12 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.11 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.10 (0) [-P-] [ ] kde-base/kicker-3.5.8 (3.5) [-P-] [M~] kde-base/kicker-3.5.9 (3.5) [-P-] [M~] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9 (3.5) [-P-] [ ~] kde-base/plasma-4.0.1 (kde-4) [-P-] [ ~] kde-base/krunner-4.0.1-r1 (kde-4) [-P-] [M~] x11-wm/matchbox-window-manager-1.1 (0) [-P-] [M~] x11-wm/matchbox-window-manager-1.2 (0) [-P-] [M ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16. (0) [-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kwin-4.0.1 (kde-4) On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > I have 3.5 as monolithic and 4.0 meta. What concerns me is that > > adding "xcomposite" will not re-emerge anything from 4.0 - and there > > is where I need/want it. > > OK, I see what you mean. Try this hacked-together list instead: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ cd /var/portage/kde-base/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ grep -ir composite * | grep '4.0' | > grep ebuild | cut -f1 -d: | sort | uniq > kdebase/kdebase-4.0.1.ebuild > kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.1-r1.ebuild > kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.2.ebuild > krunner/krunner-4.0.1-r1.ebuild > krunner/krunner-4.0.2.ebuild > kwin/kwin-4.0.1.ebuild > kwin/kwin-4.0.2.ebuild > libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.1.ebuild > libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.2.ebuild > plasma/plasma-4.0.1.ebuild > plasma/plasma-4.0.2.ebuild > > Short version: > kdelibs > krunner > kwin > libtaskmanager > plasma > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- > > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Gustavo Campos Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wine
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote: > Hi all: > I trying to emerge world and just got this error message with only 3 > programs left to emerge. It is: > > * Messages for package app-emulation/wine-0.9.57: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2111407.html -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge world problem
Hello all: I have been trying to emerge world and the last 3 times I've been getting this error message when Epiphany is in the emerge world list. The errror from the out put is: make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.20.3 /work/epiphany-2.20.3' make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.20.3 /work/epiphany-2.20.3' >>> Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = "/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-7750.log" open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) open_wr: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp (symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat.tmp) * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. The 2 line starting with ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY is in red. I believe the open_wr: shows that the script is trying to open these files in read write mode. Do I need to unemerge firefox in order to install Epiphany? Is there some other way? Thank you. Bob
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > I have 3.5 as monolithic and 4.0 meta. What concerns me is that > > adding "xcomposite" will not re-emerge anything from 4.0 - and > > there is where I need/want it. > > OK, I see what you mean. Try this hacked-together list instead: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ cd /var/portage/kde-base/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ grep -ir composite * | grep > '4.0' | grep ebuild | cut -f1 -d: | sort | uniq > kdebase/kdebase-4.0.1.ebuild > kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.1-r1.ebuild > kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.2.ebuild > krunner/krunner-4.0.1-r1.ebuild > krunner/krunner-4.0.2.ebuild > kwin/kwin-4.0.1.ebuild > kwin/kwin-4.0.2.ebuild > libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.1.ebuild > libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.2.ebuild > plasma/plasma-4.0.1.ebuild > plasma/plasma-4.0.2.ebuild > > Short version: > kdelibs > krunner > kwin > libtaskmanager > plasma Actually I did that meanwhile. Unfortunately, it doesn't help insofar as the whole session crashes the moment I switch on "Enable Desktop Effects" and apply it. I then sit in front of kdm again. Can't log in, though; it immediately crashes again. Had to log in on a text console and edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc manually. Whine! Cry! This must be an international conspiracy to prevent uncle Uwe from using all these shiny new things in KDE4. Grrr. Who is behind this conspiracy? Step forward! I have a big potjie [1] and a big plot suitable for a big fire. Have you ever seen one of those jokes about missionaries in Africa? That is going to happen to you. For sure! Uwe [1] Cast iron pot with three legs. -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote: > Hello all: > I have been trying to emerge world and the last 3 times I've been > getting this error message when Epiphany is in the emerge world list. > The errror from the out put is: > > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.20.3 /work/epiphany-2.20.3' > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.20.3 /work/epiphany-2.20.3' probably same cause as your problem with wine. Fix that, then try again. Post back if this problem then still persists -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
Hi Iain, on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:53:40PM +0930, you wrote: > I just installed Gentoo on a quad-core dual-cpu Xeon E5420 > (2.50GHz). 8Gb RAM, 800Gb raid. It's not mine - I've only convinced > the sysadmin to let me play until it needs to be used for something real > (what a waste to have those cpu's doing nothing, I thought, so let's > install Gentoo :) FSC made a mistake with their price lists for us these weeks, they seem to have deducted academic institution discount twice---and as they have to give 30 days notice upon raising prices according to their contract with university, they couldn't just correct it right away. Guess who got himself a machine pretty much like that... scnr, Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpk88T4GeVHo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] no dma on parallel port
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, luis jure wrote: [snip] > i activated ECP on the bios, the address of the port is 378, irq 7 > and dma 3. but dma is not activated when booting: Did you also enable IEEE-1284 transfer modes in your kernel configuration? -- Regards Dave [RLU#314465] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Short version: > > kdelibs > > krunner > > kwin > > libtaskmanager > > plasma > > Actually I did that meanwhile. Unfortunately, it doesn't help insofar > as the whole session crashes the moment I switch on "Enable Desktop > Effects" and apply it. I then sit in front of kdm again. Can't log > in, though; it immediately crashes again. Had to log in on a text > console and edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc manually. Oh dear. works for me here, but I have a bog-standard 1280x800 onboard intel card... Anything in the xorg logs? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no dma on parallel port
El Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:53:53 + David W Noon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Did you also enable IEEE-1284 transfer modes in your kernel > configuration? no, i hadn't... that was it, i recompiled the kernel with that option and dma is activated. thanks a lot, i really googled for _days_ without finding an answer. BTW, printing speed didn't improve a bit, though... :-( i guess i'll have to buy a newer usb printer. best, lj -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Short version: > > > kdelibs > > > krunner > > > kwin > > > libtaskmanager > > > plasma > > > > Actually I did that meanwhile. Unfortunately, it doesn't help > > insofar as the whole session crashes the moment I switch on > > "Enable Desktop Effects" and apply it. I then sit in front of kdm > > again. Can't log in, though; it immediately crashes again. Had to > > log in on a text console and edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc > > manually. > > Oh dear. works for me here, but I have a bog-standard 1280x800 > onboard intel card... > > Anything in the xorg logs? Nothing revealing. I guess my problem is this: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. I got an X driver for it from www.openchrome.org which doesn't seem to work properly with my "IGP" version of the chipset. :-( Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck: > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so > that I don't get the german man pages installed. > > How would I do that? Put this in /etc/portage/package.use: sys-apps/man-pages -nls Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
Hello. I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so that I don't get the german man pages installed. How would I do that? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:51:42 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > I guess my problem is this: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro > IGP. I got an X driver for it from www.openchrome.org which doesn't > seem to work properly with my "IGP" version of the chipset. :-( Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP chipset and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from the Sabayon overlay. -- Neil Bothwick Anything is good and useful if it's made of chocolate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. Aaahh. Say no more. I can get you good deals on Dell kit. Interested? :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs squawked: > > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the > > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so > > that I don't get the german man pages installed. > > > > How would I do that? > > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use: > > sys-apps/man-pages -nls > Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread has the nls USE flag. Thanks, W -- "`...we might as well start with where your hand is now.' Arthur said, `So which way do I go?' `Down,' said Fenchurch, `on this occaision.' He moved his hand. `Down,' she said, `is in fact the other way.' `Oh yes.'" - Arthur trying to discover which part of Fenchurch is wrong. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 460 days, 14:40 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:51:42 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > I guess my problem is this: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome > > Pro IGP. I got an X driver for it from www.openchrome.org which > > doesn't seem to work properly with my "IGP" version of the > > chipset. :-( > > Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP chipset > and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from the Sabayon > overlay. I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from openchrome.org. Same result in both cases. Hm... 0.2.901 is working correctly? With composite switched on? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. > > Aaahh. Say no more. > > I can get you good deals on Dell kit. Interested? What do you mean by "Dell kit"? A whole rig? A DIY kit where I have smolder little black bugs with lots of legs on a card? ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs > squawked: > > > > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use: > > > > sys-apps/man-pages -nls > > Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread > has the nls USE flag. Howabout sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de I haven't tested it with that particular package, thou. ~Henry -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
Willie Wong writes: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs > squawked: > > > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the > > > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so > > > that I don't get the german man pages installed. > > > > > > How would I do that? > > > > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use: > > > > sys-apps/man-pages -nls > > Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread > has the nls USE flag. I don't think so. But: /etc/portage/bashrc is evaluated by emerge, and you can put any stuff you want into there. Like this: if [[ $CATEGORY/$PN == sys-apps/man-pages ]] then LINGUAS= fi It seems to be common practice to put some more general code into there, and have package-specific file in sub-directories. Mine look slike this: envFile=/etc/portage/package.env/$CATEGORY/$PN if [[ -f $envFile-$PV ]] then . "$envFile-$PV" elif [[ -f $envFile ]] then . "$envFile" fi So I would have a file /etc/portage/package.env/sys-apps/man-pages containing "LINGUAS=", Wonko -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:15:45 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP chipset > > and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from the Sabayon > > overlay. > > I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from openchrome.org. I can't see openchrome in portage. > Same result in both cases. Hm... 0.2.901 is working correctly? With > composite switched on? I'm not using composite, it's a MythTV frontend, but I am using all the accelerationy bits. It's a lot more stable than the svn build I used to use. -- Neil Bothwick I used to live in the real world, but I got evicted. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:15:45 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP > > > chipset and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from > > > the Sabayon overlay. > > > > I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from > > openchrome.org. > > I can't see openchrome in portage.http://www.tectonic.co.za/http://www.tectonic.co.za/ Go to x11-drivers/xf86-video-via. Look into the ebuilds. It actually is openchrome. At least I think it is. > I'm not using composite, it's a MythTV frontend, but I am using all > the accelerationy bits. It's a lot more stable than the svn build I > used to use. Uh-huh! Without actually using composite in KDE, it is working here as well. Anyway, I tried 0.2.901. No joy. I have had it for today. Have rebooted so often, I feel like using the other OS. ;-) Tomorrow I'll be too busy (have got the holy duty to feed myself). I will probably give it another try coming weekend. Unmerge the whole of KDE 4.0.2 and re-emerge it again. Maybe, I missed one small bit when recompiling stuff, though I can't think of with one. Recompiled everything in KDE that has the USE flag xcomposite plus kdelibs, although they don't don't listen to xcomposite. If I'll succeed somehow I'll report back here. If not, well, I'll give up on the whole thing, stay without the effects in KDE and wait for the Easter Bunny to provide me with a decent video card. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad mistaken(?) for Logitech Wheel Mouse
Hello Iain and Johan, On 3/12/08, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok. Are you sure it's a synaptics touchpad? Otherwise I'm out of > ideas, sorry... I didn't want to hijack the thread, so I waited till this moment. I can report a similar problem on my laptop. The symptoms are pretty much the same as those described by Johan. However, in my case the Touchpad worked fine (for example, sliding the finger on the far-right side correctly translated into scrolling). It was (more or less) after I used a couple of times my Logitech USB Mouse that the Touchpad defaulted to basic mouse functionality (two buttons and "mouse pointer" movement). At that time I was convinced it was a "coldplugging" problem. When I found some more free time, and after having survived an "emerge world", I switched to a (completely) dynamic udev. Still, this did not solve the problem. Then I was blocked. Following the Wiki Howtos for configuring the Touchpad did not help much, either. How do you think that I could verify that this is a "coldplug/udev" problem? Could this be the problem, at all? What information that would help you help me pin-point the problem could I post? Thanks, Liviu -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages
Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb Henry Gebhardt: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs squawked: > > > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use: > > > > > > sys-apps/man-pages -nls > > > > Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread > > has the nls USE flag. > > Howabout > > sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de In this case, nls controls wether or not other languages should be installed (they are in separate packages, like man-pages-de). LINGUAS control which languages are installed if nls is set. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:07:06 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from > > > openchrome.org. > > > > I can't see openchrome in > portage.http://www.tectonic.co.za/http://www.tectonic.co.za/ > > Go to x11-drivers/xf86-video-via. Look into the ebuilds. It actually > is openchrome. At least I think it is. That looks like Unichrome, the package from which openchrome was forked to add 3D acceleration. -- Neil Bothwick I'm not broke, I'm `financially challenged'. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:07:06 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > > I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from > > > > openchrome.org. > > > > > > I can't see openchrome in > > > > portage.http://www.tectonic.co.za/http://www.tectonic.co.za/ > > > > Go to x11-drivers/xf86-video-via. Look into the ebuilds. It > > actually is openchrome. At least I think it is. > > That looks like Unichrome, the package from which openchrome was > forked to add 3D acceleration. The version number, 0.2.2, looks like openchrome to me. Anyway, the last release from openchrome.org didn't work for me either. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: pcmcia/usb tv tuner
Markus Schönhaber schoenhaber.de> writes: > Both cards that Neil and I mentioned are digital tuners and will > therefore not be of any use for your requirements. What application software do you guys run with these usb TV devices? Does either come with a remote control that you have gotten to work with Gentoo (kde)? curiously, James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pcmcia/usb tv tuner
James wrote: > What application software do you guys run with these usb TV devices? I use mostly kaffeine. > Does either come with a remote control that you have gotten to work > with Gentoo (kde)? The Hauppauge did come with a remote control. I haven't even tried it though, since at the few occasions when I watch TV on my PC, I'm sitting right in front of it. So I haven't yet felt the need for a remote control. Regards mks -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:14:29 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > That looks like Unichrome, the package from which openchrome was > > forked to add 3D acceleration. > > The version number, 0.2.2, looks like openchrome to me. Openchrome didn't have versioned releases until 0.2.900. everything was built from SVN until then, which is why there was no ebuild in portage. > Anyway, the > last release from openchrome.org didn't work for me either. Bummer :( -- Neil Bothwick The Borg assimilated my race & all I got was this T shirt. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pcmcia/usb tv tuner
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:27:57 + (UTC), James wrote: > What application software do you guys run with these usb TV devices? Kaffeine, mplayer and MythTV all worked for me. > Does either come with a remote control that you have gotten to work > with Gentoo (kde)? The Freecom stick came with a remote, but I never tried to use it. -- Neil Bothwick Q. How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb? A. Two - one to change the bulb and one to write a book about the passive role of the socket. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] audacious-1.4* - can't adjust volume
Since audacious-1.4* there seems to be something b0rked with the volume controls. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't (there is a thread about this in users-de). In more detail: Adjusting the volume from within audacious works, usually with all files in the current playlist, if at least one of these files has been added manually, since audacious has been started. If this is not the case, you might be able to change the volume from within audacious for a few seconds, but after that, audacious seems to loose complete control over it. You can move the sliders, without them changing anything. If you want to do a quick check, if this problem applies also to you, try " $ audacious foo.mp3 " wait, say 10 seconds, and then try to change the volume from within audacious. I'm going to file a Bug about this, but before doing so, I want to collect some more information, as I don't think, that this problem affects anyone using audacious, and I want this fixed. So, if you are using audacious-1.4.*, please tell me if the issue I've described above applies to you or not. Also include at least the following information: a.) The versions and USE-Flags of audacious and audacious-plugins. b.) "$ uname -msvr" c.) Your CFLAGS. d.) The audio output plugin you are using. Here is what I have: a.) media-sound/audacious-1.4.5 USE="dbus nls -chardet -libsamplerate" 0 kB media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.4.4 USE="aac alsa dbus flac gnome mp3 nls pulseaudio sdl sse2 vorbis wma -adplug -arts -chardet -esd -jack -lirc -modplug -mtp -musepack -oss -sid -sndfile -timidity -tta -wavpack" 0 kB b.) Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 10 21:18:38 CET 2008 x86_64 c.) CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe" d.) ALSA Thanks for your help, Matthias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] audacious-1.4* - can't adjust volume
I ran into this problem at home. I can't get to that PC anytime soon, but I'll try my best at guessing as much detail as possible using another Gentoo box. 95% probability of correct info. -- > a.) The versions and USE-Flags of audacious and audacious-plugins. audacious-1.4.5, dbus nls -chardet -libsamplerate audacious-plugins-1.4.4, aac alsa dbus flac mp3 musepack nls oss sdl sndfile sse2 timidity vorbis wavpack -adplug -arts -chardet -esd -gnome -jack -lirc -modplug -mtp -pulseaudio -sid -tta -wma > b.) "$ uname -msvr" Kernel built from gentoo-sources based on 2.6.2X. PREEMPT (everything). 32b, x86, AMD. > c.) Your CFLAGS. -O2 -pipe -march=athlon-xp -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -fomit-frame-pointer > d.) The audio output plugin you are using. ALSA. Using the default, in-kernel driver. The soundcard is some ATI IXP chipset-based onboard thing (listed as "ATI" in lspci as well IIRC). -- Thank you for trying to solve this. Anyway, a-1.4 only brought problems to me and no apparent improvements. A messed-up audioscrobbler plugin, this volume setting issue, forming a playlist took a considerably longer amount of time compared to a-1.3, plus it playfully crashed from time to time. -rz -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] audacious-1.4* - can't adjust volume
> ALSA. Using the default, in-kernel driver. The soundcard is some ATI > IXP chipset-based onboard thing (listed as "ATI" in lspci as well IIRC). > Thanks for your information: That reminds me... I should probably also add e.) your soundcard + driver inforamtion I'm using Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller with the snd_hda_intel module shipped with the kernel. Matthias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Make krusader default file manager
any ideas on what might have been wrong?? thanks in advance... On 07/03/2008, Danis Petkakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well "revdep-rebuild -p" gives no errors...i still reemerged krusader with > the > useflag "debug" and when i run it from konsole it gives the following > output > "jrn23@ ~ > krusader > krusader: Initialisising useractions... > krusader: 10 useractions read." > still when i try to open a directory from the desktop it gives me the same > error > "kdeinit could not launch '/usr/bin/krusader' "...something else i could > do?? > > On 07/03/2008, darren kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > quoth the Danis Petkakis: > > > > > hello there i'm trying to make krusader my default file manager...so > > when > > > i'm double-clicking on a directory it should be opened by Krusader...i > > try > > > to set it up correctly in kcontrol->kde components->file > > > associations->inode->directory and choose Krusader in the application > > > preference box but when i double-click on a folder it pops up an error > > > message saying "kdeinit could not launch '/usr/bin/krusader'...could > > > someone tell me how to make krusader the default file manager?? > > thanks... > > > > > > Seems like you were successful making krusader the default. It also > > seems that > > krusader is broken. I suggest trying to start `krusader` directly from a > > terminal (konsole or whatever) to see if there is something useful in an > > error message. > > > > Perhaps you need to run revdep-rebuild... > > Or just `emerge krusader`. > > > > -d > > -- > > darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org > > "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more > > expected..." > > - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 > > > > -- > > > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > > > >
[gentoo-user] partition needs to be fsckd, keyboard locked
Hi, After a hard freeze on the Gentoo partition of my Macbook Pro laptop, I rebooted, and I found this dreaded message: /dev/sda4: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a or -p options) And it asks me my root password, or ctrl-d to skip the fsck. Problem is, my keyboard seems totally unresponsive. So I basically can't boot into my system. I'm currently downloading a livecd to bypass this, obviously, but I wonder - if there's some other solution - something I should be aware of before fscking the filesystem? Thanks, m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partition needs to be fsckd, keyboard locked
Perhaps try an external keyboard? > Hi, > > After a hard freeze on the Gentoo partition of my Macbook Pro laptop, I > rebooted, and I found this dreaded message: > > /dev/sda4: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > (i.e., without -a or -p options) > > And it asks me my root password, or ctrl-d to skip the fsck. Problem is, > my keyboard seems totally unresponsive. So I basically can't boot into > my system. > > I'm currently downloading a livecd to bypass this, obviously, but I wonder > - if there's some other solution > - something I should be aware of before fscking the filesystem? > > Thanks, > m. > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wine
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote: > > Hi all: > > I trying to emerge world and just got this error message with only 3 > > programs left to emerge. It is: > > > > * Messages for package app-emulation/wine-0.9.57: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2111407.html > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > Tried that and the emerge failed for gcc. I did an "emerge --sync" and tried again using -uDNav and it came up with the following: USE="multilib" FEATURES="-sandbox" emerge -uDNav gcc portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.16 [1.0.16_rc2] 2,662 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.15 [0.14-r1] USE="-emacs" 341 kB [ebuild U ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.16 [1.0.16_rc2] USE="midi -alisp -debug -doc" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" 764 kB [ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 USE="fortran gcj gtk mudflap* nls (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -d -doc (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi% (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla" 38,841 kB Total: 4 packages (3 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 42,607 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] No *** I already have gcc 4.2.3 installed and emerge wants to downgrade to 4.1.2. I'd prefer to stay with 4.2.3. Is there a way to force it? Do I use /etc/portage/package.use to set the use flags permanently? Thank you, Bob
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wine
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:07:11 -0400, Robert Stockdale IV wrote: > [ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 USE="fortran gcj gtk mudflap* nls > (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -d -doc (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k > -libffi% (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -objc -objc++ > -objc-gc -test -vanilla" 38,841 kB > I already have gcc 4.2.3 installed and emerge wants to downgrade to > 4.1.2. No it doesn't, it wants to reinstall 4.1.2 because of the changed mudflap USE flag. gcc is slotted, so you can have 4.1 and 4.2 installed at the same time and switch between them with gcc-config. -- Neil Bothwick Home is where you hang your @. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] what isn't required to boot a system/what can be trimmed from a backup
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 23:10 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > I'm messing around with doing backups via rsync to an external hard > drive, and I'm wanting to be able to strip out unneeded files from the > backup define "unneeded". This is highly system dependant, as everyone puts important files all over the place. > (these will be archived by, probably, dar or tar later on), and > was wondering if someone knew what I could strip out. from the subject line I assume you want to be able to restore a bootable system? If so, you may need to back up more than just filesystems. What about the partition table and the master boot record? You can back up the mbr to a file by using dd: $ sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 (replace hda with your boot drive). In terms of Gentoo, you can strip out /var/tmp /usr/portage /home and possibly /opt. Probably some /var subdirs too like /var/log /var/www etc and some /usr subdirs like /usr/games /usr/include /usr/src etc. I'd say you _need_ /dev /proc and /sys. If you _really_ want to know for sure, turn on the atimes option in fstab for all your partions, then reboot and do a bit of stuff (log in, ssh, etc). Then use `find` to find all files that were accessed. Something like this: * edit /etc/fstab, delete noatime (replacing it with "defaults" if no other options remain) * $ touch /var/tmp/reference * $ shutdown -r now * log in, look around * find / -anewer /var/tmp/reference The output from the last command will be everything you _need_ to boot. Ideally, when backing up /proc /dev and /sys, do so from a cleanly shut-down system. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan My brother sent me a postcard the other day with this big sattelite photo of the entire earth on it. On the back it said: "Wish you were here". -- Steven Wright -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:08:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: So please, think twice before hitting that reply button. Whoops, too late :) You have street cred. We'll forgive you. But only this time. Next time, we break your knees. Capiche? :-) Whose we, Gentoo is dying, right? (Seriously, Just Kidding) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what isn't required to boot a system/what can be trimmed from a backup
On 11:18 Thu 13 Mar , Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 23:10 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > define "unneeded". This is highly system dependant, as everyone puts > important files all over the place. > Things I would lose if I backed them up. Doing a prior backup, some files in /proc caused me problems, and rsync refused to delete anything in the following pass. > > from the subject line I assume you want to be able to restore a bootable > system? If so, you may need to back up more than just filesystems. > What about the partition table and the master boot record? You can back > up the mbr to a file by using dd: > $ sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 > (replace hda with your boot drive). > The table, mbr, and partition table I'm not worried about. Those can be easily repaired (or replaced, depending on how one wants to do it) > In terms of Gentoo, you can strip out /var/tmp /usr/portage /home and > possibly /opt. Probably some /var subdirs too like /var/log /var/www > etc and some /usr subdirs like /usr/games /usr/include /usr/src etc. > > I'd say you _need_ /dev /proc and /sys. I'd like to know why. Some of the files in /proc change often, and cause rsync a problem. sys doesn't cause these problems, though. > > If you _really_ want to know for sure, turn on the atimes option in > fstab for all your partions, then reboot and do a bit of stuff (log in, > ssh, etc). Then use `find` to find all files that were accessed. > Something like this: > > * edit /etc/fstab, delete noatime (replacing it with "defaults" if > no other options remain) > * $ touch /var/tmp/reference > * $ shutdown -r now > * log in, look around > * find / -anewer /var/tmp/reference > > The output from the last command will be everything you _need_ to boot. > > Ideally, when backing up /proc /dev and /sys, do so from a cleanly > shut-down system. > > HTH, I'm trying to do this with the system booted up, because doing a daily sync like that would be a bit of a pain. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what isn't required to boot a system/what can be trimmed from a backup
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 22:48 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > On 11:18 Thu 13 Mar , Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 23:10 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: > > > > define "unneeded". This is highly system dependant, as everyone puts > > important files all over the place. > > > Things I would lose if I backed them up. meh? "uneeded" = "things I would lose if I backed them up"?... Isn't the idea of a backup so that you don't lose things? I'm confused. > Doing a prior backup, some > files in /proc caused me problems, and rsync refused to delete anything > in the following pass. ah, do you want to backup your data files only (documents, music, etc)? then you can ignore /proc /dev and /sys. I thought you wanted to back up the bootability of the system (in case a disk was corrupted, or you unmerged python, eg.) so that you wouldn't have to stuff around fixing it, as well as restoring your files. > > I'd say you _need_ /dev /proc and /sys. > I'd like to know why. Some of the files in /proc change often, and cause > rsync a problem. sys doesn't cause these problems, though. Is this why you're asking? Because you got some rsync errors from trying to copy /proc? You can safely ignore /proc! > > If you _really_ want to know for sure, turn on the atimes option in > > fstab for all your partions, then reboot and do a bit of stuff (log in, > > ssh, etc). Then use `find` to find all files that were accessed. > > Something like this: > > > > * edit /etc/fstab, delete noatime (replacing it with "defaults" if > > no other options remain) > > * $ touch /var/tmp/reference > > * $ shutdown -r now > > * log in, look around > > * find / -anewer /var/tmp/reference > > > > The output from the last command will be everything you _need_ to boot. > > > > Ideally, when backing up /proc /dev and /sys, do so from a cleanly > > shut-down system. > > > > HTH, > > I'm trying to do this with the system booted up, because doing a daily > sync like that would be a bit of a pain. again see above. You would only have to do that infrequently to see what was needed, but reading your reply, I don't think that's what you want... If you want to back up certain data, just explicitly backup that data. If you want to back up the entire system, then you need to backup the entire system! If you exclude /proc you won't loose any data, and your system will still boot if /proc is empty to begin with (I think). HTH a bit more! -- Iain Buchanan What has roots as nobody sees, Is taller than trees, Up, up it goes, And yet never grows? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] equery shows lyx didn't depend on qt, and emerge shows the opposite
Hello. I wishes to emerge lyx and surprisingly found it depends on qt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/zhangweiwu# emerge -pv lyx These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] app-text/opensp-1.5.2-r1 USE="nls -doc" 1,486 kB [ebuild N] app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.79 272 kB [ebuild N] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r3 55 kB [ebuild N] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.7.9 USE="X gs jbig jpeg lcms png svg tiff zlib -bzip2 -djvu -doc -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -hdri -jpeg2k -nocxx -openexr -perl -q32 -q8 -truetype -wmf -xml" 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/qt-4.3.2-r1 USE="cups jpeg opengl png ssl tiff xinerama zlib -accessibility -dbus -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -gif -glib -mng -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -pch -postgres -qt3support -sqlite -sqlite3" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 42,445 kB [ebuild N] app-text/aiksaurus-1.2.1 USE="-gtk" 908 kB [ebuild N] app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1 874 kB [ebuild N] app-text/sgmltools-lite-3.0.3-r10 USE="-tetex" 69 kB [ebuild N] app-office/lyx-1.5.4 USE="X cups nls -debug -latex" LINGUAS="-he" 8,923 kB Total: 9 packages (9 new), Size of downloads: 55,028 kB I thought it must not be true, because I used lyx on Ubuntu and it doesn't look like a qt application at all. Then I run equery depgraph to see which package required qt. again a surprise, according to equery, lyx did not depend on qt, nor indirectly. I attached output of 'equery depgraph =lyx-1.5.4' to this message. Do a grep and 'qt' is not found in the output. So my question is: 1. Is it true lyx really depends on qt? How do I find out? 2. If lyx doesn't have to depend on qt, how can I install lyx and avoid qt being emerged? Thanks in advance! Best regards Zhang Weiwu -- Real Softservice Huateng Tower, Unit 1788 Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603 Mobile: 135 9950 2413 http://www.realss.com app-office/lyx-1.5.4: `-- app-office/lyx-1.5.4 `-- x11-libs/libXrandr-1.2.2 `-- x11-libs/libX11-1.1.3 `-- x11-libs/xtrans-1.0.4 `-- sys-devel/automake-1.10 `-- dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r4 `-- sys-devel/libperl-5.8.8-r1 `-- sys-libs/db-4.5.20_p2 [ berkdb ] `-- dev-lang/tcl-8.4.15 [ tcl ] `-- sys-devel/autoconf-2.61-r1 `-- sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 `-- sys-libs/ncurses-5.6-r2 [ !build ] `-- sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1-r6 [ gpm ] `-- virtual/libintl-0 (virtual/libintl) [ !build nls ] `-- sys-devel/gettext-0.17 [ elibc_Darwin ] `-- virtual/libiconv-0 (virtual/libiconv) `-- dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.30-r1 `-- sys-libs/zlib-1.2.3-r1 `-- dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6 [ python ] `-- dev-lang/tk-8.4.15-r1 [ !build tk ] `-- x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 `-- x11-libs/libSM-1.0.3 `-- x11-libs/libICE-1.0.4 `-- x11-proto/xproto-7.0.10 `-- sys-devel/libtool-1.5.24 `-- sys-devel/gnuconfig-20070724 `-- sys-apps/help2man-1.36.4 `-- dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05 [ elibc_glibc nls ] `-- dev-util/pkgconfig-0.22 `-- x11-misc/util-macros-1.1.5 `-- sys-devel/binutils-2.18-r1 `-- sys-devel/binutils-config-1.9-r4 `-- sys-apps/findutils-4.3.8-r1 [ userland_GNU ] `-- x11-proto/kbproto-1.0.3 `-- sys-libs/readline-5.2_p7 [ !build ncurses readline ] `-- app-shells/bash-3.2_p17-r1 `-- sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.3-r3 [ !build gdbm ] `-- dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8g [ !build ssl ] `-- dev-libs/gmp-4.2.2 [ gmp ] `-- sys-apps/diffutils-2.8.7-r2 `-- sys-apps/man-pages-2.75 [ userland_GNU ] `-- sys-apps/man-1.6e-r3 (virtual/man) `-- sys-apps/groff-1.19.2-r1 `-- app-i18n/man-pages-zh_CN-1.5 [ nls linguas_zh_CN ] `-- sys-devel/bc-1.06-r6 [ test ] `-- sys-devel/flex-2.5.33-r3 `-- app-misc/ca-certificates-20070303-r1 `-- sys-apps/portage-2.1.3.19 `-- sys-apps/sed-4.1.5 [ !build ] `-- sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [ elibc_glibc ] `-- app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.16 `-- sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r9 [ caps ] `-- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.23-r3 (virtual/os-headers) `-- dev-util/unifdef-1.20 `-- app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4-r1 [ doc ] `-- app-arch/unzip-5.52-r1 `-- app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.70.1 `-- app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2 `-- app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r5 `-- sys-deve
