[gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Hey guys!

Yesterday I found this article
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and was
very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.

So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got that
bad results:

test # time *bzip2* -d -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2

real0m11.672s
user0m11.306s
sys 0m0.367s


test # time *pbzip2* -d -p4 -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2

real0m25.554s
user0m24.862s
sys 0m0.683s

So the parallel version took more than the double time!

To test whether this is a problem of my Pc I tested this on an Dual Core
with the same result.

An test with 7z was much better:


 test # time *7za* x -y linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2

real0m4.642s
user0m8.379s
sys 0m0.327s


All tests where done in a tmpfs off 1GB on 2GB RAM.


So my questions is what did I do wrong?

I also tested it with different CFLAGS, but my CFLAGS are basically very
conservative. (-O2 -march=prescott -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer)

Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Justin:

> Yesterday I found this article
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and was
> very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.
>
> So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got that
> bad results:
>
> So my questions is what did I do wrong?

Your kernel is compiled with SMP support, isn't it?

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Florian Philipp]

On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 10:58 +0100, Justin wrote:
> Hey guys!
> 
> Yesterday I found this article
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and
> was very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.
> 
> So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got
> that bad results:
> 
> test # time bzip2 -d -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
> 
> real0m11.672s
> user0m11.306s
> sys 0m0.367s
> 
> 
> test # time pbzip2 -d -p4 -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
> 
> real0m25.554s
> user0m24.862s
> sys 0m0.683s
> 
> So the parallel version took more than the double time!
> 
> To test whether this is a problem of my Pc I tested this on an Dual
> Core with the same result.
> 
> An test with 7z was much better:
> 
> 
>  test # time 7za x -y linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
> 
> real0m4.642s
> user0m8.379s
> sys 0m0.327s
> 

> So my questions is what did I do wrong?


Did you compress it with pbzip2 in the first place?

Pbzip2 can only speed up decompression of files created by pbzip2, as
well. Read the docs, dude ...

p7zip has got its own implementation of bzip2, which might be faster. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Yes it is! But a question at this point: Where can I find the "Enhanced
Real Time Clock Support" or is it gone in the 2.6.23?

Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
> Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Justin:
>
>   
>> Yesterday I found this article
>> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and was
>> very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.
>>
>> So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got that
>> bad results:
>>
>> So my questions is what did I do wrong?
>> 
>
> Your kernel is compiled with SMP support, isn't it?
>
> Bye...
>
>   Dirk
>   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Justin:

> But a question at this point: Where can I find the "Enhanced
> Real Time Clock Support" or is it gone in the 2.6.23?

Run "make menuconfig" and use the search function ("/").

HTH...

Dirk


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[gentoo-user] What's the position on Chrony?

[Peter Humphrey]

I want to run chrony on my servers for their smooth correction of system 
time. I have a few questions, however.

1.  Is chrony accurate on P4 and AMD chips? Is it really a useful 
improvement 
on ntpd? I remember from a few years ago that its developer used to have to 
change his code every time a new CPU chip appeared.

2.  Chrony doesn't like other programs interfering with its own control of 
the clock, so I want to remove both ntpd and clock from the startup 
process. This seems to cause a problem:

3.  How do I substitute chrony for ntp in gentoo's startup scripts? I can 
remove ntpd easily enough, but if I rc-update del clock it gets put back 
into the boot run-level on shutting down. If I then move /etc/init.d/clock 
out of the way and just touch a blank file in its place, I get this:

$ sudo /etc/init.d/chronyd restart
 * Caching service dependencies ...
 *  Can't find service 'clock' needed by 'syslog-ng';  continuing...
  
[ ok ]
 * Stopping chronyd ... 
  
[ ok ]
 * Starting chronyd ... 
  
[ ok ]

It looks as though the baselayout team are assuming too much; or should I 
just give in and revert to clock and ntpd? Perhaps it just isn't suitable 
for Gentoo - it wouldn't be the first time that an ebuild had appeared for 
a new package before it was ready.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

I did but without success. Thats why im asking!!

Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
> Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Justin:
>
>   
>> But a question at this point: Where can I find the "Enhanced
>> Real Time Clock Support" or is it gone in the 2.6.23?
>> 
>
> Run "make menuconfig" and use the search function ("/").
>
> HTH...
>
>   Dirk
>   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Thats a good point. Now it worked really fast.
But then the questions is why should I use pbzip2 for decompression with
portage? I think most tarballs are packed only with the normal
compression algorithm!
The WIKI articel pretends a gain of speed which wont be!

Florian Philipp schrieb:
> On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 10:58 +0100, Justin wrote:
>   
>> Hey guys!
>>
>> Yesterday I found this article
>> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and
>> was very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.
>>
>> So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got
>> that bad results:
>>
>> test # time bzip2 -d -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
>>
>> real0m11.672s
>> user0m11.306s
>> sys 0m0.367s
>>
>>
>> test # time pbzip2 -d -p4 -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
>>
>> real0m25.554s
>> user0m24.862s
>> sys 0m0.683s
>>
>> So the parallel version took more than the double time!
>>
>> To test whether this is a problem of my Pc I tested this on an Dual
>> Core with the same result.
>>
>> An test with 7z was much better:
>>
>>
>>  test # time 7za x -y linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2 
>>
>> real0m4.642s
>> user0m8.379s
>> sys 0m0.327s
>>
>> 
>
>   
>> So my questions is what did I do wrong?
>> 
>
>
> Did you compress it with pbzip2 in the first place?
>
> Pbzip2 can only speed up decompression of files created by pbzip2, as
> well. Read the docs, dude ...
>
> p7zip has got its own implementation of bzip2, which might be faster. 
>   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Is there a way to use 7zip for decompression with emerge?




Justin schrieb:
> Hey guys!
>
> Yesterday I found this article
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Speed_up_decompression_with_pbzip2 and
> was very happy, because I'm an owner of an Q6600.
>
> So I tried to reproduce the benchmark from the wiki article but got
> that bad results:
>
> test # time *bzip2* -d -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2
>
> real0m11.672s
> user0m11.306s
> sys 0m0.367s
>
>
> test # time *pbzip2* -d -p4 -kf linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2
>
> real0m25.554s
> user0m24.862s
> sys 0m0.683s
>
> So the parallel version took more than the double time!
>
> To test whether this is a problem of my Pc I tested this on an Dual
> Core with the same result.
>
> An test with 7z was much better:
>
>
>  test # time *7za* x -y linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2
>
> real0m4.642s
> user0m8.379s
> sys 0m0.327s
>
>
> All tests where done in a tmpfs off 1GB on 2GB RAM.
>
>
> So my questions is what did I do wrong?
>
> I also tested it with different CFLAGS, but my CFLAGS are basically
> very conservative. (-O2 -march=prescott -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Google is my friend:

Device Drivers  --->
Character devices  --->
   Enhanced Real Time Clock Support



Justin schrieb:
> I did but without success. Thats why im asking!!
>
> Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
>   
>> Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Justin:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> But a question at this point: Where can I find the "Enhanced
>>> Real Time Clock Support" or is it gone in the 2.6.23?
>>> 
>>>   
>> Run "make menuconfig" and use the search function ("/").
>>
>> HTH...
>>
>>  Dirk
>>   
>> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Benno Schulenberg]

Justin wrote:
> Is there a way to use 7zip for decompression with emerge?

Can this top-posting stop, please?  Interleave, and snip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Florian Philipp]

On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 11:40 +0100, Justin wrote:
> Is there a way to use 7zip for decompression with emerge?

I fear, no easy one. Of course, since emerge is just a python script,
you could rewrite it but 7z-syntax isn't compatible with bzip2 or
gnu-tar so it will be some work. I also tried to use star as a drop-in
replacement for gnu-tar, once. Didn't work well although their syntax is
nearly identical, but just nearly...

By the way: Please don't top-post (e.g. write your answers to a mail
below the quote. It makes reading long threads with many quotes easier.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[Mike Mazur]

Hi Walter,

On Jan 27, 2008 3:55 PM, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:39:47PM +0900, Mike Mazur wrote
>
> > CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
>
>   The -march option may or may not invoke mmx, sse, sse2, etc in the
> CFLAGS line but it definitely does *NOT* invoke them in the USE variable.
>
> > USE="gtk gtk2 gnome -apm -eds -emboss -gstreamer -qt -qt3 -qt4 -kde
> > -ldap -arts -esd -oss -xv X a52 aac acpi alsa avahi bash-completion
> > bluetooth cdr cjk crypt dbus dvd dvdr exif firefox gphoto hal ipod
> > jpeg mbox mp3 nptl nptlonly ogg opengl png pulseaudio spell ssl
> > startup-notification svg theora tiff vorbis wifi xinerama"
>
>   I have mmx, sse, sse2, and a few AMD-specific options in my USE
> variable.  Can you show us the output of the command...
>
> grep flags /proc/cpuinfo

The output of `grep flags /proc/cpuinfo` is:

flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx
lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2
ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm

>   Then we can see what to add.  If you are *NOT* taking advantage of the
> available extensions, you won't get the available oomph out of your cpu.
> It's not so much a matter of raw speed as ability to do complex
> calculations in the chipset microcode, rather than painfully emulating
> it in software.  One of the features of Gentoo is customizing your build
> to get the most out of your cpu.  Use it... within reason.

This enters a realm I haven't visited before...

Makes lots of sense. I guess I'll need to recompile everything if I
want any changes to come into effect?

>   mplayer also takes a few custom flags.  In /etc/portage/package.use I
> have the entry
>
> media-video/mplayer custom-cflags i8x0 real 3dnowext mmxext
>
>   With an Intel cpu, you obviously don't want "3dnowext", but there may
> be other stuff worth using.  To find out what's available, use...
>
> grep mplayer /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc | less

Looks like I have lots of reading ahead of me :) Need to figure out
what those CPU extensions mean or do and how not to abuse that power!

Thanks a lot,
Mike
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[Christel Dahlskjaer]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[ionut cucu]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:55:59 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:39:47PM +0900, Mike Mazur wrote
> 
> > CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> 
>   The -march option may or may not invoke mmx, sse, sse2, etc in the
> CFLAGS line but it definitely does *NOT* invoke them in the USE
> variable.
> 
> > USE="gtk gtk2 gnome -apm -eds -emboss -gstreamer -qt -qt3 -qt4 -kde
> > -ldap -arts -esd -oss -xv X a52 aac acpi alsa avahi bash-completion
> > bluetooth cdr cjk crypt dbus dvd dvdr exif firefox gphoto hal ipod
> > jpeg mbox mp3 nptl nptlonly ogg opengl png pulseaudio spell ssl
> > startup-notification svg theora tiff vorbis wifi xinerama"
> 
>   I have mmx, sse, sse2, and a few AMD-specific options in my USE
> variable.  Can you show us the output of the command...
> 
> grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
> 
>   Then we can see what to add.  If you are *NOT* taking advantage of
> the available extensions, you won't get the available oomph out of
> your cpu. It's not so much a matter of raw speed as ability to do
> complex calculations in the chipset microcode, rather than painfully
> emulating it in software.  One of the features of Gentoo is
> customizing your build to get the most out of your cpu.  Use it...
> within reason.
> 
>   mplayer also takes a few custom flags.  In /etc/portage/package.use
> I have the entry
> 
> media-video/mplayer custom-cflags i8x0 real 3dnowext mmxext
> 
>   With an Intel cpu, you obviously don't want "3dnowext", but there
> may be other stuff worth using.  To find out what's available, use...
> 
> grep mplayer /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc | less
> 
True as that is, is think it's kind a of the point. I have been using
mplayer to see movies since k7-2(I think it as a k7-2 don't remember
for sure). I've seldom got the error about CPU being to slow and always
it was another reason for mplayer not being able to play it. I would
rather say you should look in mplayer -vo help and try different
drivers until you get the one it suites you. If you have a 3d card
choose gl or gl2, if not xv. Also please check that you have setup
preperly the graphics card.
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[gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Erik]

I need to find the difference between images (like the text-file diff
command, but for RGBA images). I tried "compare A.png A.png
difference.png". This should obviously produce some kind of blank image
because A.png and A.png are the same file, but for some weird reason the
produced difference.png has recognizable content! Is there a fix for
that bug or any other image diff program that is sane?
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[gentoo-user] glxgears segfaults as user, works as root

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi all,

on with my ati-drivers 8.452.1 woes!

This time, glxgears & fgl_glxgears will segfault as root.  FPS is bad
for GL stuff.  When I run glxgears in sudo, it works!

I've checked groups and permissions on /dev/dri/card0 and whatever I can
think of, but nothing jumps out at me.  Google is not much help either.

any hints?  thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] What's the position on Chrony?

[Mark Shields]

On Jan 27, 2008 5:53 AM, Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to run chrony on my servers for their smooth correction of system
> time. I have a few questions, however.
>
> 1.  Is chrony accurate on P4 and AMD chips? Is it really a useful
> improvement
> on ntpd? I remember from a few years ago that its developer used to have
> to
> change his code every time a new CPU chip appeared.
>
> 2.  Chrony doesn't like other programs interfering with its own
> control of
> the clock, so I want to remove both ntpd and clock from the startup
> process. This seems to cause a problem:
>
> 3.  How do I substitute chrony for ntp in gentoo's startup scripts? I
> can
> remove ntpd easily enough, but if I rc-update del clock it gets put back
> into the boot run-level on shutting down. If I then move /etc/init.d/clock
> out of the way and just touch a blank file in its place, I get this:
>
> $ sudo /etc/init.d/chronyd restart
>  * Caching service dependencies ...
>  *  Can't find service 'clock' needed by 'syslog-ng';  continuing...
> [ ok ]
>  * Stopping chronyd ...
> [ ok ]
>  * Starting chronyd ...
> [ ok ]
>
> It looks as though the baselayout team are assuming too much; or should I
> just give in and revert to clock and ntpd? Perhaps it just isn't suitable
> for Gentoo - it wouldn't be the first time that an ebuild had appeared for
> a new package before it was ready.
>
> --
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> Peter
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>
>
If you truly don't need clock, you can try modifying the syslog-ng init file
to not require it.

grep -i clock /etc/init.d/syslog-ng --context 2 -n
16- # kludge for baselayout-1 compatibility
17- [ -z "${svclib}" ] && config /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf
18: need clock hostname localmount
19- provide logger
20-}

Remove the 'clock' word and it should let syslog-ng start.


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Re: [gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Elias Probst]

Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 14:54:15 schrieb Erik:
> I need to find the difference between images (like the text-file diff
> command, but for RGBA images). I tried "compare A.png A.png
> difference.png". This should obviously produce some kind of blank image
> because A.png and A.png are the same file, but for some weird reason the
> produced difference.png has recognizable content! Is there a fix for
> that bug or any other image diff program that is sane?

The easiest way for doing this, is using GIMP.
- Use one layer for each image
- Use the 'Subtract' mode for displaying the second layer

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Re: [gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Erik]

Elias Probst skrev:
> Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 14:54:15 schrieb Erik:
>   
>> I need to find the difference between images (like the text-file diff
>> command, but for RGBA images). I tried "compare A.png A.png
>> difference.png". This should obviously produce some kind of blank image
>> because A.png and A.png are the same file, but for some weird reason the
>> produced difference.png has recognizable content! Is there a fix for
>> that bug or any other image diff program that is sane?
>> 
> The easiest way for doing this, is using GIMP.
> - Use one layer for each image
> - Use the 'Subtract' mode for displaying the second layer
>   
Not sure how to do this. I am not a graphic artist. But I just open it
with "gimp a.png b.png" and press Ctrl-C in one image, switch to the
other and press Ctrl-V. That seems to create a second layer. Then I have
no idea what to do.

A simple command would be useful. I might have to regression-test 1000
images in a svn commit because some of them seem to have been modified
by optipng.
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[Jerry McBride]

On Sunday 27 January 2008 07:06:59 am Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
> unsubscribe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008, Justin wrote:
> Thats a good point. Now it worked really fast.
> But then the questions is why should I use pbzip2 for decompression with
> portage? I think most tarballs are packed only with the normal
> compression algorithm!
> The WIKI articel pretends a gain of speed which wont be!

and that is why you should never trust wiki-articles. Everybody can write them 
and say whatever they want.
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo didn't work with ati sapphire 2400

[Fabio]

There is no way to start the live cd.. i also write in a lot of forum,
and so on, but nothing seems to work..
what should i do?
thanks
Fabio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo didn't work with ati sapphire 2400

[Justin]

Fabio schrieb:
> There is no way to start the live cd.. i also write in a lot of forum,
> and so on, but nothing seems to work..
> what should i do?
> thanks
> Fabio
>


Thats a problem of the live CD on several video cards!

But you can still do the gentoo way of installing the OS and start with
an minimal CD!
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Re: [gentoo-user] audio gone!

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:06:50PM -0800, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked:
> <...>
> [blocks B ] >=app-admin/eselect-1.0.3 (is blocking
> app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3)

emerge --unmerge eselect-opengl eselect && emerge --oneshot eselect 
eselect-opengl
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[gentoo-user] Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[felix]

I am trying to automate converting a URL into a pdf file.  These web
pages include javascript and fancy formatting, so the simple minded
converters just don't cut the ice.  My next plan was to hack up a real
browser so it would take two command line args, the URL and the print
file, render the page, print it to the pdf file, and exit.  From what
I know of some of them, they would have to be configured in advance,
and invocation would have to be strictly controlled so only one
instance runs at a time, at least per user.  I could probably create
several firefox user sessions and have each of them running
simultaneously, but multiple real users works for me too.

Firefox doesn't print to pdf, however.  But konqueror does.  By using
the DCOP interface, I can even pass it commands to load a URL and
print the page, altho I have to settle for the configured print file
name.  But since I have to run individual sessions anyway, that's no
big deal.  The commands look like this:

dcop konqueror-6352 'konqueror-mainwindow#1' openURL 'http://slashdot.org'
dcop konqueror-6352 html-widget2 print true

There's a bit more than that, since widget names change, but a simple
perl program handles it easily (so far!).

However, there's a problem.  The "openURL" command returns without
waiting for the web page to finish loading, and the "print" command
does not wait for it to finish loading.  The "print" command does wait
for printing to finish before returning, which is nice.

This means I have to put in some arbitrary "sleep 30" or so between
"openURL" and "print" to have a good chance of a complete printed
page, and even then, there is no guarantee it actually will be
complete.  We have to send these pdf files to a bank, and it would not
be good to send them incomplete pages, even if only one out of 100 or
even 1000.  There will be at least hundreds of these every day.

I started to look at sources but there is no "konqueror-3.5.8.tar.gz"
or anything similar.  No doubt most of the code is handled by Qt
widgets and KDE libs.

Here are my quests:

0.  Is there a better place to ask this?  I tried a KDE mailing list
and got no responses; there weren't even many views.

1.  Is there either a DCOP command to wait for a URL to be loaded or a
DCOP command like openURL which waits?

2.  Is there a source file for konqueror which I could hack to take
command line parameters without changing libraries or other code
which would affect the rest of KDE?  I don't have any problem with
a hacked and renamed konqueror command.

3.  Is there some other way of converting complicated web pages into
pdf?  If they don't understand javascript and style sheets and
everything else that a real browser does, they are useless to me.

4.  Are there other ways to do this that I haven't thought of?

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Re: [gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Jens Krahe]

Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008 schrieb Erik:
> I tried "compare A.png A.png difference.png". This should obviously produce 
> some kind of blank image
> because A.png and A.png are the same file, but for some weird reason the
> produced difference.png has recognizable content!
Try "compare -metric AE A.png A.png difference.png"
This gives you the absolute number of diffrent pixels.

http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#metric

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:06:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1.  Is there either a DCOP command to wait for a URL to be loaded or a
> DCOP command like openURL which waits?

I can't see one, but it sounds like it would be useful enough to file a
bug report requesting one. A DCOP command to tell whether the page has
finished lading would be suitable.

> 2.  Is there a source file for konqueror which I could hack to take
> command line parameters without changing libraries or other code
> which would affect the rest of KDE?  I don't have any problem with
> a hacked and renamed konqueror command.

Konqueror is part of kdebase, so you'll find the source somewhere in
there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Sunday 27 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  dcop konqueror-6352 'konqueror-mainwindow#1' openURL 
> 'http://slashdot.org' 
>  dcop konqueror-6352 html-widget2 print true 
>
> There's a bit more than that, since widget names change, but a simple
> perl program handles it easily (so far!).
>
> However, there's a problem.  The "openURL" command returns without
> waiting for the web page to finish loading, and the "print" command
> does not wait for it to finish loading.  The "print" command does wait
> for printing to finish before returning, which is nice.
>[cut]
> 1.  Is there either a DCOP command to wait for a URL to be loaded or a
> DCOP command like openURL which waits?

I know of no direct method, and I can't answer your other questions 
either.
However, the following (admittedly *really* kludgy and quick-and-dirty) 
method *seems* to work:

dcop konqueror-6352 'konqueror-mainwindow#1' openURL 'http://my.url'

while true; do

  # check if the "stop" button is clickable
  stat=`dcop konqueror-6352 konqueror-mainwindow#1 actionIsEnabled stop`

  if [ "$stat" == "true" ]; then
# "stop" button is active, so page is still loading
sleep 5
  else
# "stop" button is not active, page has loaded
break
  fi
done

# do what you want here

As I said above, I did some tests and this seems to work. However, I'm 
not claiming that it's the solution to your problem, nor that it will 
always work as expected. Therefore, I strongly suggest you test it 
thoroughly before using it.

Hope that helped.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 27 January 2008 18:29:56 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Why not an universal wrapper script ?
>
> maybe something like:
>
>     magic-uncompress [-t ] [-c] [-o ] 
>    
> This script could try to find out the input format automatically
> (the optional -t parameter allows to explicitly specifiy the format)
>
> Once we have this script, ebuilds could be rewritten step by step
> and no one (else than magic-uncompress) has to care about the actual
> commands behind.
>
> Some could be done w/ tar and zip, etc.

You've just reinvented unpack(). It's been a part of portage for ages and is 
used in just about every ebuild in the tree...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo didn't work with ati sapphire 2400

[Dale]

Justin wrote:
> Fabio schrieb:
>   
>> There is no way to start the live cd.. i also write in a lot of forum,
>> and so on, but nothing seems to work..
>> what should i do?
>> thanks
>> Fabio
>>
>> 
>
>
> Thats a problem of the live CD on several video cards!
>
> But you can still do the gentoo way of installing the OS and start with
> an minimal CD!
>   

Or use some other bootable CD like Knoppix. 

The best way to install Gentoo is the old way.  You will learn a lot
about Linux that way too.  If you just have to, you can install some
binary based OS like Mandriva on a separate drive and use it to install
from then erase Mandriva after you get everything sorted out.  The plus
to that is you can use Mandriva to search the forums when a problem
arises.  It does have web browsers too.

Just a few thoughts there.

Dale 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[felix]

On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:56:59PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

> However, the following (admittedly *really* kludgy and quick-and-dirty) 
> method *seems* to work:

Oh geez, I LOVE it!  I will play with it, it just might do the trick.
It's sure not what I had been expecting, but if it works reliably, it
is just the ticket.

Sheesh.  A bloomin' genius is what you are :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:54:15PM +0100, Penguin Lover Erik squawked:
> I need to find the difference between images (like the text-file diff
> command, but for RGBA images). I tried "compare A.png A.png
> difference.png". This should obviously produce some kind of blank image
> because A.png and A.png are the same file, but for some weird reason the
> produced difference.png has recognizable content! Is there a fix for
> that bug or any other image diff program that is sane?

It seems that you do not understand how the compare function works
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/compare.php

The output image is the second image overlaid with a red "mask". The
pixels that are tinted red in the output shows the pixels that differ
from the original one. The ones that are not tinted red are unchanged.
So if you compare A to A, you will get something that looks like A
tinted by white.

What you want is something like

composite A.jpg -compose minus A.jpg Out.jpg

Look at
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#compose

to see what composite operators you can use for doing the comparison. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] glxgears segfaults as user, works as root

[Strong Cypher]

hi,
what groups of /dev/dri*/* ???

Is your user in video group ?

Did you add dri section in Xorg.conf ? with mod 666 ?

It's the lastest version ? Try update with portage.keyword ... perhaps this
version sucks ?

See ya

2008/1/27, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> on with my ati-drivers 8.452.1 woes!
>
> This time, glxgears & fgl_glxgears will segfault as root.  FPS is bad
> for GL stuff.  When I run glxgears in sudo, it works!
>
> I've checked groups and permissions on /dev/dri/card0 and whatever I can
> think of, but nothing jumps out at me.  Google is not much help either.
>
> any hints?  thanks!
> --
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>
> The buffalo isn't as dangerous as everyone makes him out to be.
> Statistics prove that in the United States more Americans are killed in
> automobile accidents than are killed by buffalo.
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi folks,

> On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 11:40 +0100, Justin wrote:
> > Is there a way to use 7zip for decompression with emerge?
> 
> I fear, no easy one. Of course, since emerge is just a python script,
> you could rewrite it but 7z-syntax isn't compatible with bzip2 or
> gnu-tar so it will be some work. I also tried to use star as a drop-in
> replacement for gnu-tar, once. Didn't work well although their syntax is
> nearly identical, but just nearly...

Why not an universal wrapper script ?

maybe something like:

magic-uncompress [-t ] [-c] [-o ] 

This script could try to find out the input format automatically
(the optional -t parameter allows to explicitly specifiy the format)

Once we have this script, ebuilds could be rewritten step by step
and no one (else than magic-uncompress) has to care about the actual 
commands behind. 

Some could be done w/ tar and zip, etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo didn't work with ati sapphire 2400

[Fabio]

Dale wrote:


Or use some other bootable CD like Knoppix. 


The best way to install Gentoo is the old way.  You will learn a lot
about Linux that way too.  If you just have to, you can install some
binary based OS like Mandriva on a separate drive and use it to install
from then erase Mandriva after you get everything sorted out.  The plus
to that is you can use Mandriva to search the forums when a problem
arises.  It does have web browsers too.

Just a few thoughts there.

Dale 

:-)  :-) 
  
thanks Dale! I currently use ubuntu and Debian now. I try to install the 
gentoo system via  chroot from Ubuntu but was a real suicide for me..at 
the end..I don't know why it does not work.

so do you think this is the best way?
thanks!
Fabio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Justin]

Enrico Weigelt schrieb:
> * Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>   
>> On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 11:40 +0100, Justin wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a way to use 7zip for decompression with emerge?
>>>   
>> I fear, no easy one. Of course, since emerge is just a python script,
>> you could rewrite it but 7z-syntax isn't compatible with bzip2 or
>> gnu-tar so it will be some work. I also tried to use star as a drop-in
>> replacement for gnu-tar, once. Didn't work well although their syntax is
>> nearly identical, but just nearly...
>> 
>
> Why not an universal wrapper script ?
>
> maybe something like:
>
> magic-uncompress [-t ] [-c] [-o ] 
> 
> This script could try to find out the input format automatically
> (the optional -t parameter allows to explicitly specifiy the format)
>
> Once we have this script, ebuilds could be rewritten step by step
> and no one (else than magic-uncompress) has to care about the actual 
> commands behind. 
>
> Some could be done w/ tar and zip, etc.
>
>
> cu
>   

But than there is still the incompability problem with pbzip2 with bzip2
compressed files. The best solution at this point would be to compress
all official tarballs with pbzip2, because now and  especially in future
parallel processing is the solution and second there is no problem
decompressing parallel compressed tarballs in single mode.


For an temporary work around I figured out this hack:

in /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh there is a function defined for each
type of compression algorithm. I changed following lines

--- ebuild.sh.orig  2008-01-27 19:16:22.0 +0100
+++ ebuild.sh   2008-01-27 19:15:36.0 +0100
@@ -479,7 +479,7 @@
;;
bz2|bz)
if [ "${y}" == "tar" ]; then
-   7za x -so "${srcdir}${x}" | tar
xof - ${tar_opts}
+   bzip2 -dc "${srcdir}${x}" | tar
xof - ${tar_opts}
assert "$myfail"
else
bzip2 -dc "${srcdir}${x}" >
${x%.*} || die "$myfail"

ebuild.sh.orig:
real0m16.962s
user0m16.289s
sys 0m2.780s


ebuild.sh:
real0m12.805s
user0m13.209s
sys 0m2.666s

With this trick you can change every kind of decompression command.

In this example you can save 25% of the time.
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Re: [gentoo-user] diff command for images

[Ralf Stephan]

You could also try the pamarith comand of the netpbm package.
It has both -subtract and -difference


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[gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

[Kevin O'Gorman]

I'm rebuilding a broken gentoo, taken down by hard drive failure.
Most things are working well, but printing just won't go.

Attpempts to print are accepted, but not printed.  lpstat -t shows the
attached printer is disabled.  Re-enabling only works until the next job
is submitted.  It has reported a variety of reasons, such as "Page not
Found" (whatever that means).
Or some thing about back end failure.  Or no reason stated at all.

I've got my old config files, so I was prepared for things to Just Work.
They don't.
I do not have my old world file, so I may be missing a piece.

I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo printing guide,
because that worthy
document requires me to add hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does
not put anything in
/etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually run as a
Postscrpt printer.

What have I missed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo didn't work with ati sapphire 2400

[Dale]

Fabio wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>>
>> Or use some other bootable CD like Knoppix.
>> The best way to install Gentoo is the old way.  You will learn a lot
>> about Linux that way too.  If you just have to, you can install some
>> binary based OS like Mandriva on a separate drive and use it to install
>> from then erase Mandriva after you get everything sorted out.  The plus
>> to that is you can use Mandriva to search the forums when a problem
>> arises.  It does have web browsers too.
>>
>> Just a few thoughts there.
>>
>> Dale
>> :-)  :-)   
> thanks Dale! I currently use ubuntu and Debian now. I try to install
> the gentoo system via  chroot from Ubuntu but was a real suicide for
> me..at the end..I don't know why it does not work.
> so do you think this is the best way?
> thanks!
> Fabio


I did my install from Mandrake once.  It worked fine for me.  I did most
of it from Konsole.  I had Mandriva on one drive and installed Gentoo on
the second drive. 

There is not really much difference between doing it booted from the
install CD or another OS.  You create your partitions, put your file
system on those, create your mount points if needed and mount the
partitions.  Untar the stage tarball, chroot in and go after it.  Once
you get to the chroot part, it should be just like the handbook.  If
your mount points are different, substitute the correct paths for your
situation.  You can just do a mkdir /mnt/gentoo on your current OS then
go from there.   That way it will be just like the handbook. 

I will say this, it took me four tries to get a successful install. 
That would be booting from the hard drive.  Took a couple more times to
get the kernel perfected.  If you run into a problem, don't start over. 
Just about anything can be fixed.  Just search the forums, come here and
ask if needed.

You should be able to install from the OS you have tho.  I have never
used Debian or Ubuntu but it should work.

After you do this a few times, you'll be like "that is so easy".  I have
never used the installer to install Gentoo with. 

That help?

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Solid with Networkmanager Support

[Thomas Kahle]

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i'm trying to get Networkmanager support in KDE, but i cannot compile
kde-base/solid with networkmanager use flag.
It seems like portage just filters the flag, as it is in braces...

emerge output shows
USE="bluetooth (-networkmanager) -test"

Can anyone confirm this or has a solution ?

Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Speed up with pbzip2 or not!?

[Florian Philipp]

On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 13:54 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Sonntag, 27. Januar 2008, Justin wrote:
> > Thats a good point. Now it worked really fast.
> > But then the questions is why should I use pbzip2 for decompression with
> > portage? I think most tarballs are packed only with the normal
> > compression algorithm!
> > The WIKI articel pretends a gain of speed which wont be!
> 
> and that is why you should never trust wiki-articles. Everybody can write 
> them 
> and say whatever they want.

Well, many eyes see much. It's all a matter of checking, just as with
open source software...

To the topic:
I've unmerged pbzip2 after reading its docs. ... seemed too much
trouble. I'll try it again when it is suitable as a drop-in replacement
or when portage can make use of it. In the mean time, if I need good
compression with more than one thread, I use p7zip's lzma
implementation.

By the way, as soon as I come into contact with some decent scripting
languages (and no longer this closed source LabVIEW I currently have to
work with), I'll try to build a wrapper around p7zip to create a drop-in
replacement for gzip, bzip2 and zip. 


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[ionut cucu]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:03:53 -0500
Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 27 January 2008 07:06:59 am Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
> > unsubscribe
> 
> NO!
> 
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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild

[sean]

I recently removed compiz-fusion after playing with it for a while.
I thought I had removed all bits but revdep-rebuild wants to emerge
emerald again.

How can I best trace what package is trying to pull emerald again?

Thanks
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild

[Mark Knecht]

Add -pv --tree to the emerge command and look at the hierarchy.

Probably can do it through equery but I'd have to look up the command
myself so I'll leave that to you.

Hope this helps,
Mark

On Jan 27, 2008 12:04 PM, sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently removed compiz-fusion after playing with it for a while.
> I thought I had removed all bits but revdep-rebuild wants to emerge
> emerald again.
>
> How can I best trace what package is trying to pull emerald again?
>
> Thanks
> Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild

[Kenneth Prugh]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:04:42 -0500
sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently removed compiz-fusion after playing with it for a while.
> I thought I had removed all bits but revdep-rebuild wants to emerge
> emerald again.
> 
> How can I best trace what package is trying to pull emerald again?
> 
>   Thanks
>   Sean

emerge -avuDt world (basically the -t flag). It will show what packages
are pulling in what.

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild

[Justin]

sean schrieb:
> I recently removed compiz-fusion after playing with it for a while.
> I thought I had removed all bits but revdep-rebuild wants to emerge
> emerald again.
>
> How can I best trace what package is trying to pull emerald again?
>
>   Thanks
>   Sean
>   

use equery from gentoolkit


equery depends emerald
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> Add -pv --tree to the emerge command and look at the hierarchy.
>
> Probably can do it through equery but I'd have to look up the command
> myself so I'll leave that to you.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark
>
> On Jan 27, 2008 12:04 PM, sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I recently removed compiz-fusion after playing with it for a while.
>> I thought I had removed all bits but revdep-rebuild wants to emerge
>> emerald again.
>>
>> How can I best trace what package is trying to pull emerald again?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sean
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>>
>>
>> 

equery depends emerald

Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Solid with Networkmanager Support

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 27 January 2008 20:03:32 Thomas Kahle wrote:
> i'm trying to get Networkmanager support in KDE, but i cannot compile
> kde-base/solid with networkmanager use flag.
> It seems like portage just filters the flag, as it is in braces...
>
> emerge output shows
> USE="bluetooth (-networkmanager) -test"
>
> Can anyone confirm this or has a solution ?

It means the flag is masked on your profile (currently it is on most 
profiles). Probably it's broken. If you really want to try to enable it `man 
portage` tells you how.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[Grant Edwards]

On 2008-01-27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Firefox doesn't print to pdf, however.

It'll print to postscript, and ps2pdf has always worked well
for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Depgraph failure WAS audio gone!

[maxim wexler]

--- Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:06:50PM -0800, Penguin
> Lover maxim wexler squawked:
> > <...>
> > [blocks B ] >=app-admin/eselect-1.0.3 (is
> blocking
> > app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3)
> 
> emerge --unmerge eselect-opengl eselect && emerge
> --oneshot eselect eselect-opengl
> -- 

Uh-oh,

localhost heathen # emerge -auvD world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies \
!!! Multiple versions within a single package slot
have been
!!! pulled into the dependency graph:

('installed', '/', 'net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2',
'nomerge') pulled in by
  ('installed', '/', 'net-print/foomatic-3.0.2',
'nomerge')

('ebuild', '/',
'net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.20060720', 'merge')
pulled in by
  ('installed', '/',
'net-print/foomatic-db-engine-3.0.2', 'nomerge')
  ('ebuild', '/',
'net-print/foomatic-filters-ppds-20070501', 'merge')

It may be possible to solve this problem by using
package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected.
However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that
they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a
conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those
packages can not be
installed simultaneously.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in
the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf

[felix]

On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 09:26:33PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2008-01-27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Firefox doesn't print to pdf, however.
> 
> It'll print to postscript, and ps2pdf has always worked well
> for me.

I had some problems with some of the more complex web sites, so I
didn't explore this much.  One thing I had tried was taking snapshots
to jpeg pictures, but I had no way of telling when the page had
finished loading.  Now that I have a working DCOP method of telling
this, I will have to try the jpeg business again.  One problem with it
is setting up a phony X enviornment that persists.  This is sure an
odd project.

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[gentoo-user] Time format in log files

[Mick]

Hi All,

I am sure that someone has asked this before, but a cursory look doesn't bring 
anything up.  I am going through some logs and I cannot understand what the 
time was when certain events took place:

[1200806556] SERVICE ALERT: router.xxx
[1200806576] SERVICE ALERT: router.xxx
[1200806891] HOST ALERT: router.xx
[1200806891]

Could you please tell me how to interpret/parse these so that they show time 
in hrs:min so that I can understand it?  (anything I could feed to less would 
be grand).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Time format in log files

[Greg Bowser]

Hi,
Those dates are in a format called "unix timestamps", which represent
the number of seconds since the unix epoch (Jaunuary 1st, 1970). You
can get the current unix timestamp via the date command (date +%s). As
far as any command-line utility to convert them,I leave that to
Google.  However, most programming languages provide functions to
convert between timestamp formats.

-- Greg

On Jan 27, 2008 4:54 PM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am sure that someone has asked this before, but a cursory look doesn't bring
> anything up.  I am going through some logs and I cannot understand what the
> time was when certain events took place:
>
> [1200806556] SERVICE ALERT: router.xxx
> [1200806576] SERVICE ALERT: router.xxx
> [1200806891] HOST ALERT: router.xx
> [1200806891]
>
> Could you please tell me how to interpret/parse these so that they show time
> in hrs:min so that I can understand it?  (anything I could feed to less would
> be grand).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[Mike Mazur]

Hi,

On Jan 27, 2008 9:55 PM, ionut cucu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True as that is, is think it's kind a of the point. I have been using
> mplayer to see movies since k7-2(I think it as a k7-2 don't remember
> for sure). I've seldom got the error about CPU being to slow and always
> it was another reason for mplayer not being able to play it. I would
> rather say you should look in mplayer -vo help and try different
> drivers until you get the one it suites you. If you have a 3d card
> choose gl or gl2, if not xv. Also please check that you have setup
> preperly the graphics card.

Ah yes you reminded me that I wanted to include my mplayer settings in
my original email. My /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf contains:

vo=gl2
monitoraspect=16:10
mixer = hw:0
fontconfig=1
subfont-osd-scale=4
subfont-text-scale=3

I have an nVidia graphics card in my laptop:

# lspci | grep -i nvidia
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7700 (rev a1)

I set it up by basically installing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers,
currently I'm at version 100.14.19.

Some sections from /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you would like more, let me know):

Section "Module"
Load  "record"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "glx"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "GeForce 7700 Go"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName   "GeForce 7700 Go"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Option  "NoLogo" "true"
Option  "BackingStore" "true"
Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
Option  "TwinView"
Option  "HorizSync" "LCD: 31.5-79; Ext: 31.5-80; TV: 47.7"
Option  "VertRefresh" "LCD: 60-60; Ext: 70-75; TV: 60"
Option  "MetaModes" "Ext: 1280x1024 +1440+0, LCD: 1440x900
@1440x1024 +0+0; LCD: 1440x900, Ext: NULL"
Option  "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "LCD"
Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
EndSection

Currently I'm not using twin displays, just my laptop.

As I'm typing this email in Firefox, I notice every second or so a
pause. My cursor freezes, even though I continue to type, and only
after hanging for a split-second, the display catches up with what I
have been typing. This is after Firefox has been used yesterday and
sat idle overnight and doesn't involve mplayer at all.

Thanks for the help so far guys :)
Mike
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[gentoo-user] Cleaning up after overdue -uD world

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

Well I went ahead and applied Willie's suggestion for
eselect to foomatic, which I don't use anyway and this
time emerge -uD world looks like a go. There's one
'Fetch Restriction' but a little wiki tell's me this
will be taken care of in due course. 

Thank's to Iain suggestion to fetch in one terminal
and compile in another I'm well on my way with 74/350
downloaded. 

So now, I'll bow out while the intertubes do their
thing.

Just wondering, if this all goes as planned, and I
don't have to start answering my own e-mails again, I
would like to clean up and dispose of about 2yrs of
garbage on my HD.(The original install was via the
2006.0 min-install CD)

Can somebody suggest methods, tools to best accomplish
this task?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Time format in log files

[Mick]

On Sunday 27 January 2008, Greg Bowser wrote:
> Hi,
> Those dates are in a format called "unix timestamps", which represent
> the number of seconds since the unix epoch (Jaunuary 1st, 1970). You
> can get the current unix timestamp via the date command (date +%s). As
> far as any command-line utility to convert them,I leave that to
> Google.  However, most programming languages provide functions to
> convert between timestamp formats.

Thanks Greg,

It's amazing what one can dig out from Google:

perl -pe 's/(\d+)/localtime($1)/e' /var/log/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[ionut cucu]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:28:35 +0900
"Mike Mazur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Jan 27, 2008 9:55 PM, ionut cucu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > True as that is, is think it's kind a of the point. I have been
> > using mplayer to see movies since k7-2(I think it as a k7-2 don't
> > remember for sure). I've seldom got the error about CPU being to
> > slow and always it was another reason for mplayer not being able to
> > play it. I would rather say you should look in mplayer -vo help and
> > try different drivers until you get the one it suites you. If you
> > have a 3d card choose gl or gl2, if not xv. Also please check that
> > you have setup preperly the graphics card.
> 
> Ah yes you reminded me that I wanted to include my mplayer settings in
> my original email. My /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf contains:
> 
> vo=gl2
> monitoraspect=16:10
> mixer = hw:0
> fontconfig=1
> subfont-osd-scale=4
> subfont-text-scale=3
> 
> I have an nVidia graphics card in my laptop:
> 
> # lspci | grep -i nvidia
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7700
> (rev a1)
> 
> I set it up by basically installing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers,
> currently I'm at version 100.14.19.

I to am using the same version of it and using vo=gl2 on mplayer gets
me a choppy playback. But vo=gl or xv works fine for me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Depgraph failure WAS audio gone!

[Dale]

maxim wexler wrote:
> --- Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:06:50PM -0800, Penguin
>> Lover maxim wexler squawked:
>> 
>>> <...>
>>> [blocks B ] >=app-admin/eselect-1.0.3 (is
>>>   
>> blocking
>> 
>>> app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3)
>>>   
>> emerge --unmerge eselect-opengl eselect && emerge
>> --oneshot eselect eselect-opengl
>> -- 
>> 
>
> Uh-oh,
>
> localhost heathen # emerge -auvD world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies \
> !!! Multiple versions within a single package slot
> have been
> !!! pulled into the dependency graph:
>
> ('installed', '/', 'net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2',
> 'nomerge') pulled in by
>   ('installed', '/', 'net-print/foomatic-3.0.2',
> 'nomerge')
>
> ('ebuild', '/',
> 'net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.20060720', 'merge')
> pulled in by
>   ('installed', '/',
> 'net-print/foomatic-db-engine-3.0.2', 'nomerge')
>   ('ebuild', '/',
> 'net-print/foomatic-filters-ppds-20070501', 'merge')
>
> It may be possible to solve this problem by using
> package.mask to
> prevent one of those packages from being selected.
> However, it is also
> possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that
> they are
> impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a
> conflict exists in the
> dependencies of two different packages, then those
> packages can not be
> installed simultaneously.
>
> For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in
> the emerge man page
> or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> !!! Depgraph creation failed.
> localhost heathen #   
>
>   

If it helps any:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list foomatic
[ Searching for package 'foomatic' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.20060720 (0)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

It may be that some of those merged into that one package.  May to to
unmerge the other foomatic packages.

Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up after overdue -uD world

[Dale]

maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Well I went ahead and applied Willie's suggestion for
> eselect to foomatic, which I don't use anyway and this
> time emerge -uD world looks like a go. There's one
> 'Fetch Restriction' but a little wiki tell's me this
> will be taken care of in due course. 
>
> Thank's to Iain suggestion to fetch in one terminal
> and compile in another I'm well on my way with 74/350
> downloaded. 
>
> So now, I'll bow out while the intertubes do their
> thing.
>
> Just wondering, if this all goes as planned, and I
> don't have to start answering my own e-mails again, I
> would like to clean up and dispose of about 2yrs of
> garbage on my HD.(The original install was via the
> 2006.0 min-install CD)
>
> Can somebody suggest methods, tools to best accomplish
> this task?
>
> mw
>
>
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eclean should help.  eclean-dist will clean out any unneeded distfiles. 
If you save packages then eclean-pkg will help with that.

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[gentoo-user] change raid device for existing array

[Thanasis]

I have an existing software raid1 array of two disks, /dev/sda2 and
/dev/sdb2, which has always been /dev/md0 until now. In the same way
there is another device (/dev/md1) also raid1 for /dev/sda6 and /dev/sdb6.
I want to repartition the disks, without booting from livecd, so I will
do it a disk at a time. I just used mdadm to set /dev/sdb2 as faulty
(and the same for /dev/sdb6), so as to free the whole /dev/sdb disk, and
repartitioned it. Rebooted for the kernel to see the new partitions on
/dev/sdb, and now I want to assign a new /dev/md0 using a new partition
on the /dev/sdb drive. But /dev/md0 is already taken from the still
active (old) system.  I know I could use another md device like
/dev/md3, but at the end, I would like to have the md devices start from
md0 as before.

So the Q is: How should I proceed to switch /dev/md0 to a new set of
devices ?
(hope I made myself clear ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[Mike Mazur]

Hi,

On Jan 28, 2008 7:55 AM, ionut cucu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:28:35 +0900
> "Mike Mazur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Jan 27, 2008 9:55 PM, ionut cucu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > True as that is, is think it's kind a of the point. I have been
> > > using mplayer to see movies since k7-2(I think it as a k7-2 don't
> > > remember for sure). I've seldom got the error about CPU being to
> > > slow and always it was another reason for mplayer not being able to
> > > play it. I would rather say you should look in mplayer -vo help and
> > > try different drivers until you get the one it suites you. If you
> > > have a 3d card choose gl or gl2, if not xv. Also please check that
> > > you have setup preperly the graphics card.
> >
> > Ah yes you reminded me that I wanted to include my mplayer settings in
> > my original email. My /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf contains:
> >
> > vo=gl2
> > monitoraspect=16:10
> > mixer = hw:0
> > fontconfig=1
> > subfont-osd-scale=4
> > subfont-text-scale=3
> >
> > I have an nVidia graphics card in my laptop:
> >
> > # lspci | grep -i nvidia
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7700
> > (rev a1)
> >
> > I set it up by basically installing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers,
> > currently I'm at version 100.14.19.
> 
> I to am using the same version of it and using vo=gl2 on mplayer gets
> me a choppy playback. But vo=gl or xv works fine for me.

In my case, vo=gl2, vo=gl and vo=x11 all behave the same, with regular
pauses. xv is not listed when I type `mplayer -vo help`.

So doesn't this indicate that it's perhaps not mplayer itself causing
trouble, but rather something system-wide instead? Especially since
this regular pause also occurs while I type in text fields in Firefox.

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy video playback

[Walter Dnes]

On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 09:18:26PM +0900, Mike Mazur wrote

> The output of `grep flags /proc/cpuinfo` is:
> 
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx
> lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2
> ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm

  The "mmx", "sse", "sse2", and "sse3" items look relevant.  Change your
CFLAGS line (watch the linewrap)...

CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -msse -msse2 
-msse3 -mfpmath=sse"

  The "-mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3" flags may be redundant if "prescott"
implies them, but they won't hurt.  The "-mfpmath=sse" may or may not
be redundant.  In a worst case, it won't hurt.  It greatly speeds up
floating-point calculations on X86-type systems (including AMD).  In
another message in this thread, you said...

> xv is not listed when I type `mplayer -vo help`.

  This is to be expected.  Since you have "-xv" in USE, xv support is
blocked.  Did you have any problems with xv that caused you to block it?
If not, change "-xv" to "xv" in USE in /etc/make.conf.  And while you're
at it, add...

mmx sse sse2

to your USE parameters.  In /etc/portage/package.use, add the line...

media-video/mplayer ssse3

> I guess I'll need to recompile everything if I want any changes to
> come into effect?

  Hopefully, not everything.  *AFTER MAKING ALL THE ABOVE CHANGES* try...

emerge --ask --deep --newuse --update --world

  The --newuse forces a recompile of every item directly affected by any
changes in CFLAGS or USE.  The --deep forces a recompile of indirectly
affected items.  If there don't seem to be any problems, let it rebuild
the listed items.

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Re: [gentoo-user] simple web server with content negotiation feature

[Zhang Weiwu]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:20:10 +0100
Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 26 January 2008, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I am looking for a web server for my static website in-developing
> > projects. I just want the basic features and easy-to-configure.
> > However what I mean "basic" looks a bit different than other
> > people's. I wish it to be able to do content negotiation (a.k.a. a
> > browser asks for "my_mom" and gets my_mom.html.zh or my_mom.html.en
> > depending on preferred language of the browser). I also wish it can
> > handle HTTP 1.1.
> >
> > I could not find one. "eix -S negotiation" didn't get me any result.
> > (on the other hand "aptitude search ~dnegotiation" did suggested me
> > fnord can do content negotiation, although it's only partially
> > implemented.)
> >
> > My question is:
> > 1. Can you please suggest some web server that can do
> > content negotiation, besides apache?
> 
> "negotiation" is not a recognised USE flag:
> 
> # euse -i negotiation
> global use flags (searching: negotiation)
> 
> no matching entries found
> 
> local use flags (searching: negotiation)
> 
> no matching entries found
> 
> therefore I am not sure that any packages in portage use it.

Dear Mick

I looked up eix manual and found '-S' asks eix to search within
description of the software. I noticed the description in portage is
usually much shorter (1 line) than in Ubuntu, which means if the
software has this feature, it's probably no space to write down all
features list in description. Perhaps there is a 'long description'
which I didn't discover yet. By 'eix -S negotiation" I am trying to
search all package description containing the word 'negotiation'

> uses the module mod_negotiation which is compiled in by default).
> Have you looked at www-servers/lighttpd, or www-servers/thttpd?

Thanks for the suggestions. I just had a look on their websites and
didn't see they support content negotiation. I think I will just use
apache which is big but I knew it already.

> 
> > 2. Can you please tell me how do you usually find out if
> > some of the packages in portage can do content negotiation?
> 
> Sorry, can't help with this.  Perhaps others more knowledgeable in
> the features of different http servers can advise here.  I would
> think that it is a matter of searching in their respective project
> websites and then reading their documentation for each package
> under /usr/portage/www-servers/. Alternative, emerge, try it out,
> unmerge and so on.

Thanks for your time on explaining this in detail:)

> BTW, I am not sure if some PHP scripting would offer this facility to
> simpler http servers, which do not support it natively like apache.

You are right PHP can do it. I wished to avoid the overhead of having
apache or php, but now I think I just take it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kompozer and arphicfonts

[Zhang Weiwu]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:30:23 +0100
Zhang Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> |
> | Now I just switch back to Gentoo and discovered, well, I am not sure
> | but looks a bit lag behind on updating portage. I only noticed two
> | examples:
> | 2. The other package arphicfonts are not developed for years
> |neither, a continue effort is the CJK Unifont project. In
> |Gentoo still there are only old packages. The new project
> |produce Chinese font that is used as default Chinese font in 
> |Ubuntu.
> 
> Actually more people are using Simsun or Yahei from Windoze for
> pragmatic reasons. Also you can try wqy-bitmapfont.

Yes I knew Simsun, Yahei. My suggestion is if there is an opensource 
Chinese font with reasonably wide coverage, it should be there for those 
who want to have it.

ghostscript-gpl when added "cjk" USE flag, would depend on the years-old 
arpphic fonts, the best behavior is either tell users to use 
Yahei/Simsun or use the latest CJK Unifont, not providing the latest 
enhanced opensource font is pratcially encouraging users to copy 
propiertry fonts. I think CJK Unifont project has done a lot of hinting 
work to make it look nice on screen and now it's much more usable on 
desktop then old arpphic font, it's making sense to avoid user install 
an old font and say "oh, opensource fonts looks bad" and then go copy 
the Windows fonts, when they actually got the outdated fonts.

wqy-bitmap is in an other category. It's usable on the screen but not on 
word processing. I am using it right now as my default screen font:) 
Thanks for having it in portage.
 
> | By the way I can compile these packages myself and I can contribute
> | ebuilds when I got some free time (e.g. in the coming holiday). I am
> | just a bit curious on how everything is generally going on in
> | Portage.
> 
> AFAIK, Gentoo CJK team is short-staffed.
> It's better if you can join gentoo and become a developer, ;)
> 
> If you want to know how everything is going on in portage, you can
> check either: http://packages.gentoo.org
> or:
> http://cia.vc/stats/project/gentoo
> 
> Ad time, ;)
> If you have some Chinese related questions, you can easily get an
> answer here: http://groups.google.com/group/gentoo-china/
> http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/forum59.html
> Also #gentoo-cn on freenode

Thanks for the information. I'll see what I can do in the coming spring 
festival and see if I can help.

Best regards
Zhang Weiwu
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[gentoo-user] Lost /sbin/rc

[Alex Schuster]

Hi there!

I just did an emerge -uDN on my system, followed by revdep-rebuild and 
emerge --depclean. When rebooting, my system did not come up because of 
missing things like /sbin/rc. Argh! Good thing I had a backup, after 
copying some files back the system was up again, and I could go to bed. 
Bad idea anyway to do a reboot on a critical machine at 6 AM.

The missing files belong to sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.10-r5 which I had 
just installed recently. I had masked it for a while 
because I want to update such critical packages only when I am home at 
the server, while most of the time I am far away from it. 

The depclean removed an older baselayout which was also installed, I guess 
that removed the files. Why did that happen, and why did I have two 
baselayouts installed in parallel?

These are the missing files:

/etc/env.d/00basic
/etc/init.d/depscan.sh
/etc/init.d/functions.sh
/etc/init.d/runscript.sh
/sbin/depscan.sh
/sbin/functions.sh
/sbin/rc
/sbin/rc-update
/sbin/runscript
/sbin/runscript.sh
/sbin/start-stop-daemon
/sbin/update-rc
/usr/sbin/MAKEDEV

Alex
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[deface]

It sounds like the mistake was on your hand. baselayout isn't udated  
as often, unless you are ~**. the missing files are from any  
baselayout, not just the version you are stating.


*** WARNING ***  Depclean may break link level dependencies.  Thus, it  
is
*** WARNING ***  recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild`  
(from
*** WARNING ***  app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such  
breakage.

*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any  
obvious
*** WARNING ***  mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set  
will always

*** WARNING ***  be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --noreplace `.  Packages that are  
listed in

*** WARNING ***  package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
*** WARNING ***  depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any  
packages
*** WARNING ***  unless *all* required dependencies have been  
resolved.  As a

*** WARNING ***  consequence, it is often necessary to run
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to  
depclean.


Plenty of warning there. Not recommended to --depclean. UNLESS  
absolutely necessary.


deface



On Jan 27, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:


Hi there!

I just did an emerge -uDN on my system, followed by revdep-rebuild and
emerge --depclean. When rebooting, my system did not come up because  
of

missing things like /sbin/rc. Argh! Good thing I had a backup, after
copying some files back the system was up again, and I could go to  
bed.

Bad idea anyway to do a reboot on a critical machine at 6 AM.

The missing files belong to sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.10-r5 which I had
just installed recently. I had masked it for a while
because I want to update such critical packages only when I am home at
the server, while most of the time I am far away from it.

The depclean removed an older baselayout which was also installed, I  
guess

that removed the files. Why did that happen, and why did I have two
baselayouts installed in parallel?

These are the missing files:

/etc/env.d/00basic
/etc/init.d/depscan.sh
/etc/init.d/functions.sh
/etc/init.d/runscript.sh
/sbin/depscan.sh
/sbin/functions.sh
/sbin/rc
/sbin/rc-update
/sbin/runscript
/sbin/runscript.sh
/sbin/start-stop-daemon
/sbin/update-rc
/usr/sbin/MAKEDEV

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[Dale]

deface wrote:
> It sounds like the mistake was on your hand. baselayout isn't udated
> as often, unless you are ~**. the missing files are from any
> baselayout, not just the version you are stating.
>
> *** WARNING ***  Depclean may break link level dependencies.  Thus, it is
> *** WARNING ***  recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild` (from
> *** WARNING ***  app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such
> breakage.
> *** WARNING ***
> *** WARNING ***  Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any
> obvious
> *** WARNING ***  mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set
> will always
> *** WARNING ***  be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
> *** WARNING ***  `emerge --noreplace `.  Packages that are
> listed in
> *** WARNING ***  package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
> *** WARNING ***  depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
> *** WARNING ***
> *** WARNING ***  As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any
> packages
> *** WARNING ***  unless *all* required dependencies have been
> resolved.  As a
> *** WARNING ***  consequence, it is often necessary to run
> *** WARNING ***  `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to
> depclean.
>
> Plenty of warning there. Not recommended to --depclean. UNLESS
> absolutely necessary.
>
> deface
>
>
>


Isn't baselayout part of system?  Wouldn't --depclean leave that
installed?  Something sounds . . . fishy.  I run --depclean and I don't
recall it ever removing something in system.

That said, always add a -p or -a to that thing.  It can boo boo and
remove something you need if you are not careful.  I removed a kde thing
once.  No GUI for a bit.

Dale

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[deface]

Not sure how far behind he was w/ the baselayout. It may have been  
removed from portage, and him masking it blocked. although he says he  
had recently installed it. but yes, it sounds as though something else  
went wrong.

On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Dale wrote:


deface wrote:

It sounds like the mistake was on your hand. baselayout isn't udated
as often, unless you are ~**. the missing files are from any
baselayout, not just the version you are stating.

*** WARNING ***  Depclean may break link level dependencies.  Thus,  
it is
*** WARNING ***  recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild`  
(from

*** WARNING ***  app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such
breakage.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for  
any

obvious
*** WARNING ***  mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set
will always
*** WARNING ***  be kept.  They can be manually added to this set  
with

*** WARNING ***  `emerge --noreplace `.  Packages that are
listed in
*** WARNING ***  package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
*** WARNING ***  depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
*** WARNING ***
*** WARNING ***  As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any
packages
*** WARNING ***  unless *all* required dependencies have been
resolved.  As a
*** WARNING ***  consequence, it is often necessary to run
*** WARNING ***  `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to
depclean.

Plenty of warning there. Not recommended to --depclean. UNLESS
absolutely necessary.

deface






Isn't baselayout part of system?  Wouldn't --depclean leave that
installed?  Something sounds . . . fishy.  I run --depclean and I  
don't

recall it ever removing something in system.

That said, always add a -p or -a to that thing.  It can boo boo and
remove something you need if you are not careful.  I removed a kde  
thing

once.  No GUI for a bit.

Dale

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