date:20060815

Hi there,
I have had this computer case for a while now, its empty and Ive always wanted to make a nice Desktop PC for media and stuff. Of course it will have Gentoo and probably Windows (to start with anyways) but my question: Is there a way to _guarantee_ a motherboard/other component will do suspend to RAM correctly in Linux? I dont really know what processor Id want, probably an AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core or something. Something UBER for sure. ^ ^

Thanks everyone! ~Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with Logitech G7 in Xorg 7.0

2006-08-15 Thread Neil Isaac


On 8/15/06, Jules Colding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I've just got myself a new G7 to replace my older MX1000. The problem is
that I can't get the G7 to work at all. Xorg does seem to recognize the
G7 but I can't get any cursor movement at all. I've tried the "evdev"
and "mouse" protocols, but to no avail.

I am currently running with both mice connected in the hope that the G7
suddenly will work...

I've create 010_local.rules as the Advanced Mouse HOWTO explained and
otherwise followed the HOWTO to the letter.

This is my xorg.conf section:

### xorg.conf ###
#Section "InputDevice"
#Identifier"Logitech MX1000"
#Driver"mouse"
#Option "Protocol" "auto"
#Option "Device"   "/dev/input/mouse0"
#Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"  "no"
#EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Logitech MX1000"
Driver"evdev"
Option "Protocol" "evdev"
Option "Device"   "/dev/input/mx1000"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"  "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Logitech G7"
Driver"evdev"
Option "Protocol" "evdev"
Option "Device"   "/dev/input/g7"
Option "Buttons"  "8"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 7 8"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"  "no"
EndSection
#Section "InputDevice"
#Identifier"Logitech G7"
#Driver"mouse"
#Option "Protocol" "auto"
#Option "Device"   "/dev/input/mouse1"
#Option "Buttons"  "8"
#Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 7 8"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"  "no"
#EndSection

# this is the relevant part of ServerLayout
InputDevice "Logitech MX1000"  "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Logitech G7"  "AlwaysCore"



Any ideas?


IIRC the G7 is wireless, is it not? If so, some things may be a little
different, but I would try a more generic configuration. Try using
/dev/input/mice, protocol "auto", then play around with different
drivers (start with "mouse".)

I have a G5 and it works "out of the box" with this configuration:

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
   Option  "Buttons"  "8"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Good luck!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with Logitech G7 in Xorg 7.0


On 8/15/06, Jules Colding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I've just got myself a new G7 to replace my older MX1000. The problem is
that I can't get the G7 to work at all. Xorg does seem to recognize the
G7 but I can't get any cursor movement at all. I've tried the "evdev"
and "mouse" protocols, but to no avail.

I am currently running with both mice connected in the hope that the G7
suddenly will work...

I've create 010_local.rules as the Advanced Mouse HOWTO explained and
otherwise followed the HOWTO to the letter.

This is my xorg.conf section:


snip


Any ideas?

Thanks,
  jules


I have a wonderful MX700 (which needs replacing b/c the battery
charger is past it's peak - 30 seconds of charge!).

The MX700 is very similar.  When I finally get to reboot into Linux (I
dual boot Kubuntu/Windows on my Athlon 64) I'll send you my xorg.conf
so you can see how mine works.  I was just thinking of getting the G7
to replace my aging MX700, so I'm very interested to know how well the
G7 does or doesn't work with Linux.

I'll go and reboot now.  Catch 'ya on the flip side.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with Logitech G7 in Xorg 7.0


Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "CorePointer"
   Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "Protocol"  "ExplorerPS/2"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

That is for a Logitech MX700 Cordless USB Optical Mouse.  Kubuntu
Dapper Drake Xorg 7.0

I hope that helps you.

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L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+
V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+
   DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y
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[gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

2006-08-15 Thread Willie Wong

Hi all, 

  I am looking to purchase an external hard-drive for backing up data.
  I am looking for something that has >250G capacity (preferably
  around 300G so I have room to grow). My desktop does not have a
  firewire port, so it is essential that I can use a USB2 connection. 
  (Of course, it is also essential that it works with Gentoo!)
  
  What do people recommend? 

  My big question is whether all those fancy "OneTouch" "OneButton"
  things offered by Maxtor/Seagate/etc. would impede the harddrive's
  function on linux. I mean, I don't think whatever software they
  bundled that allowed them to do "One Touch Backups" would work in
  linux, but I would hope those disks can still be mounted as an usb
  storage device. Can someone tell me whether that is the case? 

  Also, since I won't be using all those fancy automatic backup
  features, I am hoping to just get a bare-boned external harddrive.
  Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any offered by brands that I
  know (like I mentioend above, Maxtor/Seagate/Buffalo/etc. all have
  fancy features and cost quite a bit more), do people have
  recommendations with that in mind?

Thanks in advance

Willie
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

I like my Vantec Nexstar 3 enclosure. Try for one of them, they are cheap, flexible in capacity and nice to look at.
Works in Gentoo just as easily as a Jumpdrive.
~Ian
On 8/15/06, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,I am looking to purchase an external hard-drive for backing up data.I am looking for something that has >250G capacity (preferably
around 300G so I have room to grow). My desktop does not have afirewire port, so it is essential that I can use a USB2 connection.(Of course, it is also essential that it works with Gentoo!)What do people recommend?
My big question is whether all those fancy "OneTouch" "OneButton"things offered by Maxtor/Seagate/etc. would impede the harddrive'sfunction on linux. I mean, I don't think whatever software they
bundled that allowed them to do "One Touch Backups" would work inlinux, but I would hope those disks can still be mounted as an usbstorage device. Can someone tell me whether that is the case?
Also, since I won't be using all those fancy automatic backupfeatures, I am hoping to just get a bare-boned external harddrive.Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any offered by brands that Iknow (like I mentioend above, Maxtor/Seagate/Buffalo/etc. all have
fancy features and cost quite a bit more), do people haverecommendations with that in mind?Thanks in advanceWillie--Pintsize: Hehe, yeah, that does sound like a pretty empty, pointless existence.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

2006-08-15 Thread Ow Mun Heng

On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 12:53 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
>   I am looking to purchase an external hard-drive for backing up data.
>   I am looking for something that has >250G capacity (preferably
>   around 300G so I have room to grow).

If you're in US, and there's a Fry's store nearby, here's a Maxtor 500Gb
for USD179
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=32664&adid=3359416&subid=12793331&type=

>   My big question is whether all those fancy "OneTouch" "OneButton"
>   things offered by Maxtor/Seagate/etc. would impede the harddrive's
>   function on linux. I mean, I don't think whatever software they
>   bundled that allowed them to do "One Touch Backups" would work in
>   linux, but I would hope those disks can still be mounted as an usb
>   storage device. Can someone tell me whether that is the case? 

Yep. i have a sarotech enclosure (www.sarotech.com) for a 2.5in and it
has backup software but I don't use it at all.
It does not impede upon the functionality of the drive/casing.
The button is just a harware button asking the casing to perhaps
"initiate" backup with the host/contact the host for backup software
etc.

The case just functions as a USB external Drive. You're just paying
extra for the "button" :-)

>   Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any offered by brands that I
>   know (like I mentioend above, Maxtor/Seagate/Buffalo/etc. all have

Why not? If you want a cheap one, a 2.5in one selling in
Surpluscomputers costs ~USD7-15 and a 3.5in costs between USD20-50
Plug in a Drive and you're good to go.

PS : I bought mine 2 years ago (max limit of 300GB due to PCBA in the
casing) for USD25

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice


On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I like my Vantec Nexstar 3 enclosure. Try for one of them, they are cheap,
flexible in capacity and nice to look at.
Works in Gentoo just as easily as a Jumpdrive.
~Ian


If you are looking to buy the drive and enclosure separately, I too
can recommend these, but only in the 3.5" size.  The 2.5" one I had
corrupted every large file I wrote to it.  Of course since you are
looking for >250G, you are not looking at 2.5", but whatever you get,
I recommend testing thoroughly with some md5sum verifications.

You can find this same enclosure under several different brands.  The
most important thing IMO is to make sure that the DC power input has
separate 12V and 5V pins.  The enclosures with a simple round 12V DC
power input do not provide enough power for large drives.

Of course if you buy the Seagate/WD/Buffalo with the drive
pre-installed, you don't really have to worry about the power.  You
can safely ignore the button, it won't impact the drive's
functionality in any way.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA tuning ?


On 8/15/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

 since SATA does not support DMA I would be interested in other ways
 to tune the SATA interface.


Huh?  SATA _does_ support DMA, and it is always enabled.


 Does someone knows some working things to do for tuning the SATA
 interface?


If you have chosen the correct driver in the your kernel
configuration, it is self-tuning.  There is no more performance to be
had generally.

What problem are you trying to solve?  What does "hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"
actually report?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

2006-08-15 Thread Willie Wong

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:08:29AM -0700, Penguin Lover Ow Mun Heng squawked:
> >   Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any offered by brands that I
> >   know (like I mentioend above, Maxtor/Seagate/Buffalo/etc. all have
> 
> Why not? If you want a cheap one, a 2.5in one selling in
> Surpluscomputers costs ~USD7-15 and a 3.5in costs between USD20-50
> Plug in a Drive and you're good to go.
> 
> PS : I bought mine 2 years ago (max limit of 300GB due to PCBA in the
> casing) for USD25

Thanks Ow and Ian, I hadn't thought of the possibility of just buying
an external enclosure. That looks like a good way to go. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice


On 8/15/06, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:08:29AM -0700, Penguin Lover Ow Mun Heng squawked:> >   Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any offered by brands that I
> >   know (like I mentioend above, Maxtor/Seagate/Buffalo/etc. all have>> Why not? If you want a cheap one, a 2.5in one selling in> Surpluscomputers costs ~USD7-15 and a 3.5in costs between USD20-50
> Plug in a Drive and you're good to go.>> PS : I bought mine 2 years ago (max limit of 300GB due to PCBA in the> casing) for USD25Thanks Ow and Ian, I hadn't thought of the possibility of just buying
an external enclosure. That looks like a good way to go.
 
I like it because In a year I can get an even bigger hard drive and it wont cost as much.
Glad to be of help.
~Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] dependency required by "x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1

2006-08-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Pete Pardoe wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> Havinbg a bit of a strange problem - an emerge -puD world is producing the
> following error.  I have tried putting it in package.keywords with the
> following ~x86, ~* and *  and none of them worked.  Any advice?
> 
> ~
> 
> Calculating world dependencies -
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel" have been
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-1.6.0_alpha20060720 (masked by: missing
> keyword)

Not sure where you're getting those packages from, they aren't in the
tree. Contact the overlay maintainers and get them to fix the keywording.

Thanks,
Donnie



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[gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

The subject kind of says it all, really.
With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to speed, but this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4. There should be no excuse for this. :) Im not at home right now so I cantt actually attempt any troubleshooting hints you give me right now, but if you have any general ideas until about 5 hours from now, please reply! 
~Ian

[gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

Hi there,
My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do. 

 
I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I should do, I started X. (I have 
7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what that means. 
 
Projects use wy different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants Xorg < 7.0?
Thanks so much everyone!
~Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

2006-08-15 Thread Neil Isaac


On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi there,
My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was
happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card
3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki
instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way
they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of
doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.

I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct
rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and
other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not
believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I
should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what
that means.

Projects use wy different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue
what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants
Xorg < 7.0?


Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers that
work with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to get
working (I never did get them working in the end - but I do have
friends who have gotten them up and running) so I wish you luck.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

It makes me very happy that the open source ones (once they work.) fully support my card.
~Ian 
On 8/15/06, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ian Kabeary wrote:> Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give> this card 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

2006-08-15 Thread Julien Cabillot

I have Xorg7.1 & ati-drivers, that's work fine.On 8/15/06, Neil Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi there,> My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was> happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card> 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki
> instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way> they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of> doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.
>> I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct> rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and> other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not
> believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I> should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is> that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what> that means.>> Projects use wy different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue> what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants
> Xorg < 7.0?Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers thatwork with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to getworking (I never did get them working in the end - but I do have
friends who have gotten them up and running) so I wish you luck.--Neil Isaac[EMAIL PROTECTED]--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

I dont want the ATi ones though, they dont give my card 3d acceleration.
~Ian
 
PS> Sadly enough, I found out they dont do 3D accel. AFTER I installed them. :) 
On 8/15/06, Julien Cabillot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have Xorg7.1 & ati-drivers, that's work fine.

On 8/15/06, Neil Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 
On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi there,> My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was> happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card
> 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki > instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way> they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of
> doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do. >> I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct> rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and
> other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not > believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I> should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
> that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver > version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what> that means.>> Projects use wy different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue
> what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants > Xorg < 7.0?Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers thatwork with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to get
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

2006-08-15 Thread Dale

Ian Kabeary wrote:
> The subject kind of says it all, really.
> With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start
> can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to
> speed, but this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4. There should be no excuse
> for this. :) Im not at home right now so I cantt actually attempt any
> troubleshooting hints you give me right now, but if you have any
> general ideas until about 5 hours from now, please reply! 
> ~Ian

AMD 2500+ and 1Gb of ram and I get slow response too.  I notice it the
most when I go to the weather page and view the animated radar.

Dale

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On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what
that means



Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?


I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actual
error message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,
which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also never
hurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard layouts missing

2006-08-15 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Rafael Barrera Oro wrote:
> I have re emerged kxkb successfully but there are still no
> keyboard layouts available in the KDE control center regional
> settings. Any ideas?

Did you relogin to KDE?  If you did, and it's still not there, which 
Xorg are you using?  Post the output of 'emerge -pv xorg-x11'.  And 
if you use anything out of the ordinary, 'emerge --info' too.  And 
for good measure 'emerge -pe world | grep kde'.

Benno

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.


On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The subject kind of says it all, really.
With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start can
take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to speed, but
this is on a 3.2GHz Pentium 4.


What jdk/jre did you install?  Have you tried another?

Are the apps attempting to contact something on the internet, and
timing out?  Tcpdump or wireshark may help in this case.

Finally, an "strace -tt java ..." might reveal if there is a system
call that it is waiting on that is taking a while.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard layouts missing


On 8/15/06, Rafael Barrera Oro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have re emerged kxkb successfully but there are still no keyboard
layouts available in the KDE control center regional settings. Any ideas?


Do you see the files under /usr/lib/X11/xkb?

An strace of kcontrol on my system shows that KDE looks for the xkb
mappings at /etc/X11/xkb/. On my system /etc/X11/xkb is a symlink to
/usr/lib/X11/xkb.  Do you have the same?

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[gentoo-user] Securing Apache2

2006-08-15 Thread James

Hello,

I've got (2.0.58-r2) installed and running. It displays a simple
html web page just fine.  It been quite a few years since I've been
tagged with managing a web server... 

Anyway, I've found lots of URLs, some listed at the end of this
message. I've also looked in /usr/portage/net-www and noticed
lots of mod_* packages.

I'm trying to use the security featues of apache2 without
chrooting (I'm not even sure chrooting apache2 is necessary
for good-to-strong web security?

Is there a wiki or docs or suggestions as to which modules 
provide good web security in addition to mod_security?

Here's what I need.

Environment
Mulitple domain names (around 20) on a single IP address (One machine)
The Single (Static) IP address is allocated to the firewall. which
currently successfully passes bidirectional port 80 traffic to/from 
the DMZ based apache2 web server.

Java, php5, perl, mysql
All web developers behind the firewall
mod_security is installed

When I look in //etc/apache2/apache2-builtin-mods  I do not
see any modules which are related to security, except mod_auth*
and mod_secruity. Furthermore, I followed the emerge instructions
and added this to my /etc/conf.d/apache2 file:


Again, I'm not having trouble getting this to work, I'm just looking
for a concise document/wiki/example on security for this
sort of web server configuration. If not, then maybe a
doc/wiki/example on setting up a minimalistic apache2 web server
with good security. Then I could go on adding the languages/features
to an apache2 web server, and incrementally test the web server
for security as languages/features are added. Maybe using
'nikto' or anyother suggested tools for web-server security
scanning.?


Maybe I should keep thg web server offline until scans from
nikto are clean?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Apache_Modules_mod_security
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Apache2_Install
http://localhost/manual/
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-troubleshooting.xml
http://www.modsecurity.org/documentation/quick-examples.html


James




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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

2006-08-15 Thread Thomas Harold


Willie Wong wrote:
Hi all, 


  I am looking to purchase an external hard-drive for backing up data.
  I am looking for something that has >250G capacity (preferably
  around 300G so I have room to grow). My desktop does not have a
  firewire port, so it is essential that I can use a USB2 connection. 
  (Of course, it is also essential that it works with Gentoo!)
  
  What do people recommend? 


BYTECC ME-835U2F

Takes any size 3.5" drive that you want to install (the 400GB IDEs are a 
good price/GB right now).  All metal construction.  Includes it's own 
PSU inside and takes a standard PC cord.  So you don't have to keep 
track of an external AC/DC converter.  Has both Firewire and USB 2 
connectors on the back.  Has a power switch.


Best of all, it has an internal fan to keep the hard drive cool.

Takes about 10 minutes to assemble, just be careful not to pinch the 4 
HD power wires as you slide the unit back inside the case.  The screw 
mount inside the case passes within a few mm of where the HD power wires 
tend to bend to.


(I've found it very difficult to find units with built-in PSUs and 
adequate hard drive cooling combined with dual-interface designs.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mainboard Suggestion Intel Core 2 Duo

2006-08-15 Thread Thomas Harold


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've never used MSI.  I'm shopping for a board, too but for AMD
processor and my choices are

1. Gigabyte first 2.  Asus next - I used Asus some years ago and
still have one dual PIII 933 in service.  However, their quality on
new and exchange went bad so I stopped using them.  I don't know how
they are now.



I tend to go with Asus first, Gigabyte second.  I've had good luck with 
my Asus boards (starts counting... maybe 6 or 7 in the past few years 
for various sytems).  Boards like the SK8N, SK8V, A7N8X, A8N-VM CSM, A8V 
(not all of those were Linux systems though).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

I can for sure get the error message for you in a few hours.
Im away from home (and my laptop for that matter) right now.
Thanks for the reply though!
~Ian 
On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> should do, I started X. (I have 
7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is> that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver> version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what> that means
Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actualerror message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also neverhurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.-Richard--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

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> With the exception of OpenOffice, pretty much every Java app I start
> can take like 5-7 minutes to LOAD! Once its up it runs totally up to
> speed,

I had a similar situation a while back.  Go to your java control panel and 
increase the memory to it.  That fixed mine.  I think you'll also notice a 
boost in running speed as well.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
Thanks!
~Ian 
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> speed,I had a similar situation a while back.  Go to your java control panel andincrease the memory to it.  That fixed mine.  I think you'll also notice aboost in running speed as well.HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:44, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
> Thanks!
> ~Ian

Ah, you're gonna make me boot up my laptop and find out, eh?

No problem.

I should probably try to make a how-to for this on the Gentoo wiki... what do 
you think? Is Java's broken-by-default memory management worth it?

Here we go:

/opt/(JRE/JDK/Whatever)/bin/ControlPanel

HTH.

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[gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread darren kirby

I just realized my Gentoo has no 'at'

I searched but couldn't find as google will not consider less than 3 char 
words and equery only works on installed apps. Web interface to portage 
didn't reveal it either.

Where the heck is at at?

I would think it was one of the coreutils...wrongly it seems.
 
-d
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

2006-08-15 Thread Neil Isaac

On 8/15/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:44, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?
> Thanks!
> ~Ian

Ah, you're gonna make me boot up my laptop and find out, eh?

No problem.

I should probably try to make a how-to for this on the Gentoo wiki... what do
you think? Is Java's broken-by-default memory management worth it?

I've never had this problem so I'm not sure it's really
"broken-by-default" - may be jre dependant so the way I see it, you're
best to file bugs as this should not be an existent issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

2006-08-15 Thread Jerry McBride

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 18:29, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> I can for sure get the error message for you in a few hours.
> Im away from home (and my laptop for that matter) right now.
> Thanks for the reply though!
> ~Ian
>
> On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with
> > > is that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon
> > > driver version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no
> > > idea
> >
> > what
> >
> > > that means
> >
> > 
> > Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?
> > 
> >
> > I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actual
> > error message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
> > the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,
> > which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also never
> > hurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.
> >
> > -Richard
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What problems are you having again? My current work laptop is a Compaq 
Presario R3000 with ATI 9000igp video chips. 3D acceleration works perfectly 
on it, using Xor 7.1.1 and it's native dri drivers.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread Willie Wong

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:32:03PM -0700, Penguin Lover darren kirby squawked:
> Where the heck is at at?

Where you'd expect :)

[07:42 PM]wwong ~ $ equery belongs atd
[ Searching for file(s) atd in *... ]
sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11 (/etc/init.d/atd)
sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11 (/usr/sbin/atd)

though, I admit, "emerge --search at" would probably give too many 
results than useful. 

W
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website.  Expecting the slashdot crowd to be mature and make informed 
comments is, well, like expecting a Fermat number to be prime: it used 
to work a long time ago when the number was small...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen

On Wednesday 16 August 2006 01:32, darren kirby wrote:
> I just realized my Gentoo has no 'at'
>
> I searched but couldn't find as google will not consider less than 3 char
> words and equery only works on installed apps. Web interface to portage
> didn't reveal it either.
>
> Where the heck is at at?
>
> I would think it was one of the coreutils...wrongly it seems.

$ eix -e at
* sys-process/at
 Available versions:  3.1.8-r11 3.1.8-r12
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:
ftp://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/pub/jurix/source/chroot/appl/at/
 Description: Queues jobs for later execution

In this particular case I would recommend app-portage/eix for finding it.
Though not very helpful when you don't know the full path [1] did also show
the same package when searching for /usr/bin/at. That home page is, however,
still in a beta state.

[1] 
http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl?filter=%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fat&action=search_file&limit=500

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread darren kirby

quoth the Willie Wong:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:32:03PM -0700, Penguin Lover darren kirby 
squawked:
> > Where the heck is at at?
>
> Where you'd expect :)
>
> [07:42 PM]wwong ~ $ equery belongs atd
> [ Searching for file(s) atd in *... ]
> sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11 (/etc/init.d/atd)
> sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11 (/usr/sbin/atd)
>
> though, I admit, "emerge --search at" would probably give too many
> results than useful.

Ha, 

Yea I can be thick sometimes. I never thought to simply try "emerge at". 
Though it makes me wonder why http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=at 
doesn't return it...

Following Neil's advice I will use gentoo-portage.org in the future.

Thanks all,
-d
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread darren kirby

quoth the Bo Ørsted Andresen:
>
> $ eix -e at
> * sys-process/at
>  Available versions:  3.1.8-r11 3.1.8-r12
>  Installed:   none
>  Homepage:   
> ftp://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/pub/jurix/source/chroot/appl/at/ Description:   
>  Queues jobs for later execution
>
> In this particular case I would recommend app-portage/eix for finding it.
> Though not very helpful when you don't know the full path [1] did also show
> the same package when searching for /usr/bin/at. That home page is,
> however, still in a beta state.

Thanks for the great tip Bo!

I have many uses for a portage search tool that doesn't require the app to be 
installed to find it. installing eix now...

-d

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Re: [gentoo-user] UDP traffic?

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Knecht

Thanks guys! Turns out it was user error as much as anything. My son
was setting up the Windows server using Broodwar and UDP. I was
running, at the time, an install from the Broodwar CD for the Linux
box. That install showed only IPX as an option for joining so it
didn't work, as expected. Once I went to BattleNet to get an update
for Broodwar UDP became and option, I joined the Windows server and
most everything is running fine. I am having some problems with parts
of the audio coming through as static, but the game itself plays great
so far.

We also tried it the other way around with the Linux box being the
server and letting Windows clients join. That seems to work fine also.

Thanks alot for the info. Very helpful.

Cheers,
Mark

On 8/14/06, Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Winston Messer wrote:
> You may need to enable IPX support or something, but I really don't know
> much about IPX on Linux.

You need IPX support in your kernel (CONFIG_IPX) and net-misc/ipx-utils.
  UDP in Starcraft works fine for me, however, although this is with
regular Wine rather than Cedega.  Try running from a console rather than
using the Cedega GUI, and see if you get any error messages.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java apps take longer to load than a... I dont know what.

2006-08-15 Thread Justin Findlay

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:44:14PM -0600, Ian Kabeary wrote:
>What is the name of the executable for the Java Control Panel?

I've seen it in the gnome menu somewhere under preferences or
administration or something like that (the gnome menu layout tends to
change sometimes).  On my system it's called `ControlPanel`.


Justin
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[gentoo-user] powersave

2006-08-15 Thread Michael W. Holdeman

Anone having trouble with powersave? It didn't recogggnize I had a 
battery installed after the last upgrade, now was downgraded via portage, and 
it won't start now. I can't find any error messages..

Mike
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[gentoo-user] booting slave; specify which device and how?


How do I know which device to specify?

This is the error message I get on boot:


Activating udev
Determining root device

!! Block device /dev/hda4 is not a valid root device...
!! The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
  Please specify a device to boot, or "shell" for a shell...

There are two hard drives.  The slave has gentoo and win2k.  GRUB
seems to work fine, windows boots fine.

The slave was removed from one  box and put into another.



thanks,

Thufir
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Re: [gentoo-user] booting slave; specify which device and how?


On 8/15/06, THUFIR HAWAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

There are two hard drives.  The slave has gentoo and win2k.  GRUB
seems to work fine, windows boots fine.


IDE (or rather PATA now) devices on linux are named in order of the
channel then master/slave device, so:

hda: master on first PATA channel
hdb: slave on first PATA  channel
hdc: master on second PATA channel
hdd: slave on second PATA channel
hde: master on third PATA channel
hdf: slave on third PATA channel
...

So if it is slave on the primary channel, hdb4.  If it is slave on the
secondary channel, hdd4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} External hard-drive choice

2006-08-15 Thread Collins Richey


On 8/15/06, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

  I am looking to purchase an external hard-drive for backing up data.
  I am looking for something that has >250G capacity (preferably
  around 300G so I have room to grow). My desktop does not have a
  firewire port, so it is essential that I can use a USB2 connection.
  (Of course, it is also essential that it works with Gentoo!)



Others have responded with specifics. All I can add is that I have a
couple of el-cheapo (< $40) ADS units from Micro Center that work just
fine. You can put in any G-capacity IDE drive you want. If your Gentoo
system handles USB storage devices properly (why wouldn't it), you'll
have no problems.  According to the drive enclosure advertisements,
metal case is better for heat dissipation, but I have no hard
evidence. These units have the "standard" external AC->DC chunky
blocks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] booting slave; specify which device and how?


On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 8/15/06, THUFIR HAWAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are two hard drives.  The slave has gentoo and win2k.  GRUB
> seems to work fine, windows boots fine.

IDE (or rather PATA now) devices on linux are named in order of the
channel then master/slave device, so:

hda: master on first PATA channel
hdb: slave on first PATA  channel

[...]

Understood, thanks.

I seem to have mucked things up a tad by formatting hda so that I
can't boot windows at the moment.

I'm thinking about how to edit grub.conf at the moment...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] cat grub.conf.sample -n
1  #
2  # Sample boot menu configuration file
3  #
4
5  # Boot automatically after 30 secs.
6  timeout 30
7
8  # By default, boot the first entry.
9  default 0
   10
   11  # Fallback to the second entry.
   12  fallback 1
   13
   14  # For booting GNU/Hurd
   15  title  GNU/Hurd
   16  root   (hd0,0)
   17  kernel /boot/gnumach.gz root=hd0s1
   18  module /boot/serverboot.gz
   19
   20  # For booting GNU/Linux
   21  title  GNU/Linux
   22  root (hd1,0)
   23  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1
   24  #initrd /initrd.img
   25
   26  # For booting GNU/kFreeBSD
   27  title  GNU/kFreeBSD
   28  root   (hd0,2,a)
   29  kernel /boot/loader.gz
   30
   31  # For booting GNU/kNetBSD
   32  title  GNU/kNetBSD
   33  root   (hd0,2,a)
   34  kernel --type=netbsd /boot/knetbsd.gz
   35
   36  # For booting Mach (getting kernel from floppy)
   37  title  Utah Mach4 multiboot
   38  root   (hd0,2)
   39  pause  Insert the diskette now!!
   40  kernel (fd0)/boot/kernel root=hd0s3
   41  module (fd0)/boot/bootstrap
   42
   43  # For booting FreeBSD
   44  title  FreeBSD
   45  root   (hd0,2,a)
   46  kernel /boot/loader
   47
   48  # For booting NetBSD
   49  title  NetBSD
   50  root   (hd0,2,a)
   51  kernel --type=netbsd /netbsd
   52
   53  # For booting OpenBSD
   54  title  OpenBSD
   55  root   (hd0,2,a)
   56  kernel --type=netbsd /bsd
   57
   58  # For booting OS/2
   59  title OS/2
   60  root  (hd0,1)
   61  makeactive
   62  # chainload OS/2 bootloader from the first sector
   63  chainloader +1
   64  # This is similar to "chainload", but loads a specific file
   65  #chainloader /boot/chain.os2
   66
   67  # For booting Windows NT or Windows95
   68  title Windows NT / Windows 95 boot menu
   69  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
   70  makeactive
   71  chainloader  +1
   72  # For loading DOS if Windows NT is installed
   73  # chainload /bootsect.dos
   74
   75  # For installing GRUB into the hard disk
   76  title Install GRUB into the hard disk
   77  root(hd0,0)
   78  setup   (hd0)
   79
   80  # Change the colors.
   81  title Change the colors
   82  color light-green/brown blink-red/blue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cat grub.conf -n
1  default 0
2  timeout 30
3  splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
4  title=Gentoo Linux
5  root (hd0,1)
6  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4
7  initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
8
9  title Windows
   10rootnoverify (hd0,0)
   11chainloader +1
   12
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pwd
/media/hdb2/boot/grub
[EMAIL PROTECTED] whoami
knoppix
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Tue Aug 15 21:32:33 EDT 2006
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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA tuning ?

Moving this back to gentoo-user, as I accidentally replied off list.

Meino, please don't CC me directly on replies.  I'll read them on the list...

On 8/15/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  WHen doing things, which mixes higher CPU-loads with  massive hd
> >  utilization, things are going slow (compilation of Blender for
> >  example).
>
> Ok, let's try to test that.  We'll start by saturating your CPU(s).
> On one terminal start "bzip2 -9 < /dev/urandom >/dev/null".

  This commandline puts a BIG SMILE onto my face ! Yes, this is as
  simple as it is genious!!! Great! Really a nice CPU barbeque !

> (If you
> have multiple processors, start one of these bzip2 commands on one
> terminal for each processor you have).
>
> Then on another, repeat the "hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"

  These are the results __without__ the CPU roaster:

solfire:Mail/vim>sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads:   2996 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1499.13 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads:  174 MB in  3.01 seconds =  57.79 MB/sec

  and this are the results __with__ the CPU roaster:

solfire:/home/mccramer>sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
solfire:/home/mccramer>sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads:   2160 MB in  2.10 seconds = 1030.12 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads:  174 MB in  3.03 seconds =  57.41 MB/sec

The chached reads dropped by ~469MByte/s. The buffered reads are
nearly the same.

The buffered reads are all we care about.  They are the actual reads
from the disk to RAM.  The cached reads is just a repeated read of the
same sector of the disk, so today is really just a test of your memory
bandwidth.  Since we are loading memory and the CPU pretty heavily for
this test, and significant drop is to be expected.

So, it is not CPU utilization that is hurting your performance.

You mentioned problems compiling.  The most likely case I can think of
is that you do not have enough memory, and are inducing the system to
swap.  Indeed when compiling most programs, you should see very little
if any disk activity.  This is particularly suspect if you have
something like MAKEOPTS=-j4.

Regards,
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] booting slave; specify which device and how?


On 8/16/06, THUFIR HAWAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cat grub.conf -n
 1  default 0
 2  timeout 30
 3  splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 4  title=Gentoo Linux
 5  root (hd0,1)
 6  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4
 7  initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
 8
 9  title Windows
10rootnoverify (hd0,0)
11chainloader +1
12
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/media/hdb2/boot/grub
[EMAIL PROTECTED] whoami
knoppix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
Tue Aug 15 21:32:33 EDT 2006
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[...]

If I change the above hd0 to hd1, will that fix grub?  At the moment
Grub isn't loading, however, as hd0 has been formatted.

So, hd0 needs a boot partition, then at least knoppix will run from
the hard drive.

Ok, easiest thing here is probably to install knoppix, give a MBR to
hd0, then I can mount hd1.  I'm going to continue with installing
knoppix.  If I knew a bit more about grub then I'd fix grub so that
it'd boot gentoo (hd1,0), gentoo (hd1,4) and knoppix (hd0,0), but I'm
a bit hesitant.


-Thufir
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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA tuning ?

2006-08-15 Thread Meino Christian Cramer

From: "Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA tuning ?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:47:20 -0700

> Moving this back to gentoo-user, as I accidentally replied off list.
> 
> Meino, please don't CC me directly on replies.  I'll read them on the list...

  ...sorry...my fault...bu the previous mail was a private one to me...

> On 8/15/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >  WHen doing things, which mixes higher CPU-loads with  massive hd
> > > >  utilization, things are going slow (compilation of Blender for
> > > >  example).
> > >
> > > Ok, let's try to test that.  We'll start by saturating your CPU(s).
> > > On one terminal start "bzip2 -9 < /dev/urandom >/dev/null".
> >
> >   This commandline puts a BIG SMILE onto my face ! Yes, this is as
> >   simple as it is genious!!! Great! Really a nice CPU barbeque !
> >
> > > (If you
> > > have multiple processors, start one of these bzip2 commands on one
> > > terminal for each processor you have).
> > >
> > > Then on another, repeat the "hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"
> >
> >   These are the results __without__ the CPU roaster:
> >
> > solfire:Mail/vim>sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
> > /dev/sda:
> > Timing cached reads:   2996 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1499.13 MB/sec
> > Timing buffered disk reads:  174 MB in  3.01 seconds =  57.79 MB/sec
> >
> >   and this are the results __with__ the CPU roaster:
> >
> > solfire:/home/mccramer>sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
> > solfire:/home/mccramer>sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
> > /dev/sda:
> > Timing cached reads:   2160 MB in  2.10 seconds = 1030.12 MB/sec
> > Timing buffered disk reads:  174 MB in  3.03 seconds =  57.41 MB/sec
> >
> >
> > The chached reads dropped by ~469MByte/s. The buffered reads are
> > nearly the same.
> 
> The buffered reads are all we care about.  They are the actual reads
> from the disk to RAM.  The cached reads is just a repeated read of the
> same sector of the disk, so today is really just a test of your memory
> bandwidth.  Since we are loading memory and the CPU pretty heavily for
> this test, and significant drop is to be expected.

  Ok...sounds good -- in the sense of: It seems, that I have no
  hardware problem anywhere in my Linux box...
 
> So, it is not CPU utilization that is hurting your performance.

  ( :) imaging the above sentence *WITHOUT* the current context :) )

  This is the eigth wonder of the world...the first time when CPU load
  does *not* hurt system performance! Oh yeah! I will send all my
  render tasks to the...floppy controller, hahahahahahaa :))

  (sorry could not resist...I am a little daft this morning as it seems :O))
 
> You mentioned problems compiling.  The most likely case I can think of
> is that you do not have enough memory, and are inducing the system to
> swap.  

  Hmmm...1GByte Dualchannel-RAM should be enough for compiling Blender
  (for example).

> Indeed when compiling most programs, you should see very little
> if any disk activity.  

  My SATA disk (Seagate ST3200827AS) is heavily shakeing its head when
  compiling...

> This is particularly suspect if you have
> something like MAKEOPTS=-j4.

  Yes, normally I use "make -j 4" for useing both cores.

  May be I foolishly forget something to switch on or off in my BIOS
  while migrating from PATA to SATA ? The only PATAs in my system is a
  Plextor CD reader/burner and a LG DVD reader/burner on IDE1
  (scnd. channel).

  My mobo is a ASUS AV8 with AMI BIOS (upgraded to the "newest"
  version I could find on the net).

> Regards,
> -Richard
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[gentoo-user] Accidently removed gcc-lib

2006-08-15 Thread Mine GO BOOM


My motherboard on my Gentoo machine died, so I upgraded the system to
a much more powerful machine I had laying around. Figuring now that I
can actually compile things faster (went from a low-grade Via CPU to
AMD 1700+), I went around and figured it was time to clean up some
stuff.

After removing old version of things I thought I didn't need and were
not listed as being a dependency of any other applications, I found
out that my /usr/lib/gcc-lib is no longer valid. Old versions have
symlinks to the current, so when emerge was removing old files, it
followed the symlink and removed out everything in 3.3.6, leaving
empty symlinks.

What could I do to rebuilt /usr/lib/gcc-lib? Or do I need to copy this
from a prebuild stage tarball and then have reemerge something?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz


darren kirby wrote:

I just realized my Gentoo has no 'at'

I searched but couldn't find as google will not consider less than 3 char 
words and equery only works on installed apps. Web interface to portage 
didn't reveal it either.


Where the heck is at at?

I would think it was one of the coreutils...wrongly it seems.


Many query tools accept basic regular expressions, namely ^ to begin a 
line and $ to end it.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix ^at$
* sys-process/at
 Available versions:  3.1.8-r11 3.1.8-r12
 Installed:   none
 Homepage: 
ftp://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/pub/jurix/source/chroot/appl/at/

 Description: Queues jobs for later execution

This is more generally applicable than the other example of the -e flag.

Thanks,
Donnie
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