[gentoo-user] update-eix has memory problems

[Wolfgang Liebich]

Hi,
update-eix won't work anymore: If I try to start it, it prints "Reading
Portage settings .." and starts gobbling up memory at an amazing rate. 
At a memory usage of about 770MB (according to top) the process stops
with the message "Aborted" (nothing else).
What now?
Puzzled,
Wolfgang
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed vs. Running (new feature suggestion)

[Robin]

bash: lsof: command not found.

I must be missing something

Robin

On 2/2/06, Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > A while ago I posted a question to this list asking how to be sure
> > updated software has taken effect on your machine.  Gentoo makes it
> > easy to install updated software, but what about being sure the newly
> > updated software is actually running in place of the old version?  The
> > concensus seemed to be that there are really only two ways to do this:
>
> A third way. Run (as root)
>
> lsof | grep -i del
>
> This will allow you to see which applications are using deleted files
> (ie those that have been replaced). Then you just have to restart the
> applications concerned.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:56:16 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

> Again, my *guess* is that with a *very* modern drive where the
> manufacturers simply cannot squeeze any more data onto the platter,
> that even the NSA would not be able to recover any data.  But it may
> be that is just what they /want/ us to think...

There is always room for more data on the platter, simply because the
manufacturers cannot push things right to the limit and still guarantee
that the drives will still run reliably three years later. Of course, as
manufacturing techniques become more sophisticated, tolerances become
smaller, so it will be more difficult, but not impossible.

I'm sure you won't find the NSA HOWTO on recovering data on Google :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Paul]

On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was
> > resolved by changing
> > the mouse protocal to "ExplorerPS/2". Although the mouse
> > works OK It still
> > appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
> > I have noticed that on boot I get an error "module mousedev
> > not found" and
> > something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
>
> For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log
> messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog.

Mick
I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking for a boot log, 
I suppose I need to turn it on somehow.
Do you know how?
Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed vs. Running (new feature suggestion)

[Rasmus Andersen]

On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 04:37:53AM -0500, Robin wrote:
> bash: lsof: command not found.
> 
> I must be missing something

Have you emerged sys-process/lsof? The binary is in /usr/sbin/, so it
might not be in your path.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia and X

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 08:11, Stefan Istvan wrote:


>
> If other part of the log is needed to find out what's wrong, tell me,
> and I will provide it.

ok, I am way out of my waters.

I think, you should try it here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14

it is the nvidia support forum.

Maybe a search there will give you an answer, but if not, you should run 
nvidia-bug.sh (as root) and post it there together with your 
qiestion/problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia and X

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:11:27 +0100, Stefan Istvan wrote:

> Yes, I know that the new version of Nvidia driver does not support my
> card, when I tried to install it warned me about it. So, I put those two
> lines into the package.mask file, and I installed
> nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 and nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r6.

I'm using 1.0.7174-r2 and 1.0.7174-r5 here on a TNT2.

> I think, that X complains not about the kernel module, but the nvidia
> module of Xorg, which is located in
> /usr/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o and part of the nvidia-glx
> package.
> 
> Here is some part of the X log:
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!

It definitely states the problem is with the kernel module. Try the 7174
version, some of the earlier ones had problems with udev.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed vs. Running (new feature suggestion)

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:37:31 -0800, Grant wrote:

> 2. reports what version of installed software is actually running and
> it's up to the user to figure out what needs to be done if installed
> and running software versions do not match (probably better)

3. Whenever an ebuild installs a script in /etc/init.d, it checks to see
whether the service is already running. If it is, it sends an ewarn
message. Now that portage is able to mail these messages, they no longer
get lost in the reams of output from an emerge, so they are now genuinely
useful.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed vs. Running (new feature suggestion)

[William Kenworthy]

How do we do that?  "man emerge, man portage and man make.conf" dont
mention this.  Which docs should I be looking at?

BillK


On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 10:47 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:37:31 -0800, Grant wrote:
> 
> > 2. reports what version of installed software is actually running and
> > it's up to the user to figure out what needs to be done if installed
> > and running software versions do not match (probably better)
> 
> 3. Whenever an ebuild installs a script in /etc/init.d, it checks to see
> whether the service is already running. If it is, it sends an ewarn
> message. Now that portage is able to mail these messages, they no longer
> get lost in the reams of output from an emerge, so they are now genuinely
> useful.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed vs. Running (new feature suggestion)

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:02:43 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

> How do we do that?  "man emerge, man portage and man make.conf" dont
> mention this.  Which docs should I be looking at?

/etc/make.conf.example

As it's only in ~arch portage at the moment, it doesn't appear to have
made its way into the man pages yet. I noticed the changes when running
dispatch-conf.


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RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Michael Kintzios]

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 02 February 2006 10:04
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > > I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was
> > > resolved by changing
> > > the mouse protocal to "ExplorerPS/2". Although the mouse
> > > works OK It still
> > > appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
> > > I have noticed that on boot I get an error "module mousedev
> > > not found" and
> > > something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
> >
> > For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log
> > messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog.
> 
> Mick
> I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking 
> for a boot log, 
> I suppose I need to turn it on somehow.
> Do you know how?
> Thanks

I'll try to look into it tonight (away from my PC now) and get back to
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Stroller wrote:
> On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:32, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Stroller wrote:
>>> ... a data recovery
>>> specialist last year offered to return 17gigs worth of data from a
>>> hard drive that had died containing only 8 gigs of files.
>>
>> Died hard drives are a *COMPLETELY* different matter.
> 
> The additional 9gigs of data were files that had been deleted and not  
> over-written.

Okay.

> Not a "completely different matter" at all,

Yes, it is.

> as  
> formatting may only delete & replace the partition table.

Depends on how you define "format". My definition of
format is "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda". So, yes, it
is a completely different matter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Stroller wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2006, at 18:27, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
> 
>> On Пнд, 2006-01-30 at 17:03 -0800, Grant wrote:
>>> I've heard that data can be recovered from a formatted hard
>>> diskIs it true?
>>
>> Short answer for your question is... No. It's not true.
> ...
>> suppose you have deleted file. This operation only
>> removes entry in you directory table, but not the file itself. Or you
>> did format you hard drive. That will rebuild only file structure on  
>> you
>> hard drive. Normally that means that you overwrite about 5% of you
>> drive. All other data is intact. Just read it.
> 
> I think you just contradicted yourself.

No, I don't think he has.

>> ...If you do `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdd then there is no
>> chances you'll get you data. Why? Because all byte and bits on your  
>> hard
>> drive became 0.
> 
> This is not what normally (or at least, _always_) happens when you  
> format a hard-drive.

Well, depends on the definition of "format". If you
define format as "overwrite partition table", than
you're right. But that's hardly what I'd call "format".

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Grant wrote:

> Thanks Peter.  That is quite contrary to what most of the other posts
> in this thread are saying.

Too bad. But it's very much to what makes sense and what
I've heard.

>  Those are all just rumors and myths?

I'd say so, yes. Or do you have SOLID FACTS that they are
not rumors?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Dale wrote:
> Grant wrote:
> 
>>
>>Thanks Peter.  That is quite contrary to what most of the other posts
>>in this thread are saying.  Those are all just rumors and myths?
>>
>>- Grant
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> 
> I think we all know it can be done. 

No, we don't.

> Governments do it all the time. 
> Data recevery people do it too.

Do they? Why don't they advertise this?

> Years ago I worked at a computer place
> and the hard drive crashed.  The heads physically pulled up the magnetic
> media in a couple places.  They still got almost 80% of the data back. 

AGAIN: That's a died hard disk. That's *COMPLETELY* different
matter. And if you read what he wrote, you'll find that he
also said that recovering data from died hardware is possible.

> I'm sure the NSA, CIA and a few others can get data back off just about
> anything.  It's just a matter of how much money you want to spend and
> how much time you want to put into it.

Interesting point, though - if your data is worth just a
few thousand bucks, than it will most of the time not make
sense to waste the money on it.


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[gentoo-user] wireless problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Hello all,
Using a Dell latitude x1, dual-boot with w$ xp; on my campus they have a
wireless network which I can access with my mail login and password. It
works without a problem on w$.
On my gentoo I installed wpa_supplicant with the following item in
the conf file:

network={
ssid="Universite Paul Cezanne"
identity="mylogin"
password="mypassword"
priority=5
}

Here mylogin and password are also (of course) what I enter to access the
network when on w$.

When I type "iwconfig" I obtain this:

eth1  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Universite Paul Cezanne"  
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50   
  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   
  Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=91/100  Signal level=-37 dBm  Noise level=-80 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:5350   Missed beacon:0

Seems to indicate I am actually connected?

But then I can't access the network (firefox doesn't find anything).

Maybe it the identity/password which is not correct?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Dale]

Alexander Skwar wrote:

>Dale wrote:
>  
>
>>Grant wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Peter.  That is quite contrary to what most of the other posts
>>>in this thread are saying.  Those are all just rumors and myths?
>>>
>>>- Grant
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>I think we all know it can be done. 
>>
>>
>
>No, we don't.
>  
>


Yes, some of us do.

>  
>
>>Governments do it all the time. 
>>Data recevery people do it too.
>>
>>
>
>Do they? Why don't they advertise this?
>  
>

They didn't advertize the U2 spy plane either.  It existed though.  They
don't always tell us everything.

>
>
>Interesting point, though - if your data is worth just a
>few thousand bucks, than it will most of the time not make
>sense to waste the money on it.
>
>
>Alexander Skwar
>  
>


Dale
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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:32:16 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> > Governments do it all the time. 
> > Data recevery people do it too.
> 
> Do they? Why don't they advertise this?

For the same reason the British government sold Enigma machines to
Commonwealth countries for almost thirty years after they had cracked the
code. If you tell people you can break their security, they are more
likely to upgrade it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Paul]

On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 10:43, Paul wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 17:21, Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 1/31/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have added the option line but it has made no difference, I am still
> deleting 2 messages sometimes, it seems to be completely random, as does
> the problem with the second copy of a message opening in another window. 
> Also I sometimes click on the terminal program or the personal files icon
> and 2 instances open.
> This is very weird
UPDATE
I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have 
disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back

This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to look next.  I have 
been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could have caused this 
in the last few weeks.  The trouble is I don't know which programs a usb 
mouse uses.
Any ideas out there
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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 12:49 +0100, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> 
> When I type "iwconfig" I obtain this:
> 
> eth1  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Universite Paul Cezanne"  
>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50 

> Seems to indicate I am actually connected?

this indicates you are associated with the AP whose mac address is
00:12:DA:AE:5A:50

> But then I can't access the network (firefox doesn't find anything).

next you have to make sure you have an ip address (ifconfig eth1) and
the necessary routing (route -n)

dhcp should set this up for you.

See what those two commands say for starters.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

[Simon Prosser]

heres my /etc/conf.d/net might give you some pointers if you dont want to use 
dhcp...

config_ath0=( "192.168.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.0.255" )
routes_ath0=( "default gw 192.168.2.1" )
essid_ath0="belkin54g"
config_eth0=( "192.168.0.7" )

hth...

On Thursday 02 February 2006 13:14, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 12:49 +0100, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> > When I type "iwconfig" I obtain this:
> >
> > eth1  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Universite Paul Cezanne"
> >   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point:
> > 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50
> >
> > Seems to indicate I am actually connected?
>
> this indicates you are associated with the AP whose mac address is
> 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50
>
> > But then I can't access the network (firefox doesn't find anything).
>
> next you have to make sure you have an ip address (ifconfig eth1) and
> the necessary routing (route -n)
>
> dhcp should set this up for you.
>
> See what those two commands say for starters.
>
> HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Michael Kintzios]

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 02 February 2006 12:39
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 10:43, Paul wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 17:21, Richard Fish wrote:
> > > On 1/31/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have added the option line but it has made no difference, 
> I am still
> > deleting 2 messages sometimes, it seems to be completely 
> random, as does
> > the problem with the second copy of a message opening in 
> another window. 
> > Also I sometimes click on the terminal program or the 
> personal files icon
> > and 2 instances open.
> > This is very weird
> UPDATE
> I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have 
> disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back
> 
> This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to 
> look next.  I have 
> been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could 
> have caused this 
> in the last few weeks.  The trouble is I don't know which 
> programs a usb 
> mouse uses.
> Any ideas out there

Others have experienced problems with the latest udev update
(unstable?).  This may only apply to setups with bespoke udev rules; did
you have any special udev rules for your USB mouse?
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[gentoo-user] cellphones and gentoo

[James]

Hello,

Well it's time to get a new cell phone (current LG died).

Listening to some hacks, I've decided to get a wifi enabled
cell phone, or a foreign made wifi device, just to have some fun.
Alltell does not seem to support any wifi enabled cellphones.
I may have to switch cellphone providers.

I have a 'flat rate' unlimited plan with Alltell (4 counties
in florida are unlimited) for $59 mo. Alltel's voice network
is rarily congested. Their phones choices:
http://www.alltel.com/phones/index.html

are depressing.

I've been thinking about T-mobile and a plan for voice and 
wireless data access to the internet. (Anyone happy with T-mobile?) 

Motorola and other cellphone vendors have bluetooth support and some 
wifi support built into the phones. Anyone got a wifi enabled cell phone 
working with Gentoo? Another wifi only portable handset?

I also noticed 'kdebluetooth'. Since my portable does not have
bluetooth built in, does any pccard vendor provide hardware
(& driver) that works with gentoo?

I did notice Alltel is selling the blackberry 7250. Anyone 
like this phone and does it work well with Gentoo?

thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 02 février à 15:55:55 Simon Prosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment:

| heres my /etc/conf.d/net might give you some pointers if you dont want to use 
| dhcp...
>
| config_ath0=( "192.168.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.0.255" )
| routes_ath0=( "default gw 192.168.2.1" )
| essid_ath0="belkin54g"
| config_eth0=( "192.168.0.7" )
>
| hth...
>
| On Thursday 02 February 2006 13:14, Iain Buchanan wrote:
| > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 12:49 +0100, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
| > > When I type "iwconfig" I obtain this:
| > >
| > > eth1  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Universite Paul Cezanne"
| > >   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point:
| > > 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50
| > >
| > > Seems to indicate I am actually connected?
| >
| > this indicates you are associated with the AP whose mac address is
| > 00:12:DA:AE:5A:50

Oh! I though it was *my* mac address (flush)

| >
| > > But then I can't access the network (firefox doesn't find anything).
| >
| > next you have to make sure you have an ip address (ifconfig eth1) and
| > the necessary routing (route -n)
| >
| > dhcp should set this up for you.
| >
| > See what those two commands say for starters.

[...]

Thanks a lot Simon and Iain; I will try dhcp tomorrow morning,
cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Richard Fish]

On 2/2/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> UPDATE
> I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have
> disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back
>
> This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to look next.  I have
> been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could have caused this
> in the last few weeks.  The trouble is I don't know which programs a usb
> mouse uses.
> Any ideas out there

Hm, ok, for a USB mouse we are just talking kernel drivers...so let's
have a peak at your kernel configuration.  Please post the output of:

zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -e USB -e MOUSE | grep -v "^#"

or if you don't have /proc/config.gz:

grep -e USB -e MOUSE /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -v "^#"

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] mod_php USE Flag question

[Robin]

I was looking at some of the flags associated with mod_php using the
equery u mod_php command.  And something going me wondering about the
pam USE flag.  Should I consider removing it and Re-emerging ?

This is what the description says:
Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - DANGEROUS to
arbitrarily flip

What I don't get is the DANGEROUS part.  I am just curious.  I posted
to the #gentoo and searched the forums without result.  And idea would
be appreciated.

Thanks : -)

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[gentoo-user] any ebuild for Petite Chez Scheme or compatible scheme implementation ?

[Lingyun Yang]

I don't know much about scheme's variation and license,
I'm just wondering why there's no Petite Chez Scheme.
If I can't get it, which is a compatable one to this implementation
can emerged in gentoo ?

Thanks a lot!

Lingyun

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia and X

[Stefan Istvan]

> On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:11:27 +0100, Stefan Istvan wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I know that the new version of Nvidia driver does not support my
> > card, when I tried to install it warned me about it. So, I put those two
> > lines into the package.mask file, and I installed
> > nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4 and nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r6.
> 
> I'm using 1.0.7174-r2 and 1.0.7174-r5 here on a TNT2.
> 
> > I think, that X complains not about the kernel module, but the nvidia
> > module of Xorg, which is located in
> > /usr/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o and part of the nvidia-glx
> > package.
> > 
> > Here is some part of the X log:
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
> 
> It definitely states the problem is with the kernel module. Try the 7174
> version, some of the earlier ones had problems with udev.

I've tried the version you suggested, but have the same result.
But I found this in the kernel log:
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :01:00.0 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 201
NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7174  Tue Mar
22 06:44:39 PST 2005

What does this mean?

Thanks,
Istvan


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[gentoo-user] /dev/ttyS* linked to /dev/tts/? and vise versa

[henkg]

Hello,

after updating to udev-0.79? my /dev/ttyS0 wasn't working any more, when 
I looked in /dev I found it was a link to /dev/tts/0. When I did ls 
-l /dev/tts/0 it was a link to /dev/ttyS0, so that was the reason.

I don't know anything about creating nodes in /dev, but with a lot of 
luck, I managed to solve the problem by typing:

rm /dev/ttyS0
mknod /dev/ttyS0 c 1 0
reboot

I now could access /dev/ttyS0 again, but I must admit that I didn't know 
what I was doing when I created the node.

- Is there bug in the latest udev rules? 
- what is the prefered way of solving my problem?

Thanks for any reply.

Kind regards,

Henk.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

[Paul]

On Thursday 02 Feb 2006 15:39, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 2/2/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > UPDATE
> > I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have
> > disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back
> >
> > This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to look next.  I
> > have been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could have
> > caused this in the last few weeks.  The trouble is I don't know which
> > programs a usb mouse uses.
> > Any ideas out there
>
> Hm, ok, for a USB mouse we are just talking kernel drivers...so let's
> have a peak at your kernel configuration.  Please post the output of:
>
> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -e USB -e MOUSE | grep -v "^#"
>
> or if you don't have /proc/config.gz:
>
> grep -e USB -e MOUSE /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -v "^#"

I do not have any udev rules for the mouse.
This is the info you asked for - Thanks for the interest.

CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1280
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=1024
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y
CONFIG_USB=y
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55=y
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y
CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y
CONFIG_USB_IBMCAM=m
CONFIG_USB_KONICAWC=m
CONFIG_USB_OV511=m
CONFIG_USB_SE401=m
CONFIG_USB_SN9C102=m
CONFIG_USB_STV680=m
CONFIG_USB_PWC=m

Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev 084 breaks USB?

[Petr Kocmid]

On Wednesday 01 February 2006 20:27, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Today I updated from udev-081-r1 to udev-084. Since then,
> I can no longer use my USB devices, like my mouse or my
> flash card reader.
> Did anyone else notice this?

udevmonitor may help to diagnose your problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] update-eix has memory problems

[Zac Medico]

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Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
> Hi,
> update-eix won't work anymore: If I try to start it, it prints "Reading
> Portage settings .." and starts gobbling up memory at an amazing rate. 
> At a memory usage of about 770MB (according to top) the process stops
> with the message "Aborted" (nothing else).
> What now?
> Puzzled,
> Wolfgang


You should probably file a bug with the eix developers [1] (unless one has 
already been filed).  If it doesn't get past "Reading Portage settings .." then 
I would guess that it is having trouble parsing one or more config files such 
as make.conf or those in /etc/portage/.

Zac

[1] http://dev.croup.de/proj/eix/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stupid Postfix alias question...

[Eric Bliss]

On Wednesday 01 February 2006 06:34 pm, Patrick Börjesson wrote:
> On 06/02/01 16:32, Eric Bliss wrote:
> > I've got a user who wants his mail both kept locally and forked off to 
another 
> > server.  Will the following work in the aliases file, or will it create an 
> > infinite loop?
> > 
> > bob: bob, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > I'm thinking it should work safely, but I can't seem to find the reference 
to 
> > in in the documentation, although I know it's gotta be in there somewhere.
> 
> According to `man 8 local` on line 56, it seems what you're trying to do
> should work as you wrote it.
> 

Thanks.  I kept looking through "man aliases", "man postalias", "man 
newaliases"...  I knew I'd seen a reference to this kind of thing before.

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[gentoo-user] Redefining a single key in Xorg 6.8?

[Michael Kjorling]

I run x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 and would like to redefine a single
key on the keyboard. I found a number of tutorials on how to create a
completely custom keyboard layout, but this seems like overkill.

How do I change this one key without creating a whole new layout,
preferably only for my own account?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Stroller]

On 2 Feb 2006, at 11:28, Alexander Skwar wrote:


This is not what normally (or at least, _always_) happens when you
format a hard-drive.


Well, depends on the definition of "format". If you
define format as "overwrite partition table", than
you're right. But that's hardly what I'd call "format".


I was referring to the definition of "format" generally used by the  
authors & suppliers of formatting utilities. If you format a disk in  
Windows, or certainly if you "quick format" it, it doesn't run a  
quick call to `dd if=/dev/zero of=/de/hdX`; it merely overwrites the  
partition table so the data IS often recoverable after a format.


If you were merely formatting a disk for your own use, had no  
expectation that it would fall into anyone else's hands, and were in  
a hurry to use the disk with its new filesystem on it, you would  
surely be wasting time were you to insist on blanking every single  
bit on the device - it's simply not necessary.


I am not qualified to comment on recovery of data from a disk that  
has been wiped with zeros in the way you describe, nor from one which  
has been shredded properly with repeated iterations of random & non- 
random bits, but there certainly does seem to be a lot of hearsay on  
the subject. I would consider the a disk that's been comprehensively  
overwritten once to be unrecoverable from the practical perspective  
of the original discussion (a mate in the pub) but do consider a disk  
that's been over-written with shred to be unrecoverable as far as my  
customers' commercial data is concerned.


Whilst writing this I looked up `info shred` which claims:

   If you have sensitive data, you may want to be sure that recovery
   is not possible by actually overwriting the file with non-sensitive
   data. However, even after doing that, it is possible to take the
   disk back to a laboratory and use a lot of sensitive (and expensive)
   equipment to look for the faint "echoes" of the original data
   underneath the overwritten data.  If the data has only been  
overwritten

   once, it's not even that hard.

   The best way to remove something irretrievably is to destroy the
   media it's on with acid, melt it down, or the like.

The info page references Peter Gutmann's paper `Secure Deletion of  
Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory'. I'm not qualified to  
assess this paper fully, and hard-drives have progressed considerably  
in the last decade, but my naive reading of the conclusion seems to  
support the suggestion that a single write may not be sufficient to  
thwart a determined attacker:


   Data overwritten once or twice may be recovered by subtracting what
   is expected to be read from a storage location from what is actually
   read... it is effectively impossible to sanitise storage locations
   by simple overwriting them, no matter how many overwrite passes are
   made or what data patterns are written. However by using the
   relatively simple methods presented in this paper the task of an
   attacker can be made significantly more difficult, if not  
prohibitively

   expensive.
   http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html which  
concludes:


I state once again that I'm not really qualified to comment on the  
subject to this depth, so I offer these references merely for your  
perusal. I would be grateful if you refrained in any future responses  
from the sneering manner you have employed in those to date.


Stroller.



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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Dale wrote:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
>>Dale wrote:
>>>Grant wrote:

>>>I think we all know it can be done. 
>>>
>>
>>No, we don't.
>>  
> 
> Yes, some of us do.

Well, some believe it to be possible. But not "we all" do think
so and much less "know" it.

>>>Data recevery people do it too.
>>>
>>
>>Do they? Why don't they advertise this?
>>
> 
> They didn't advertize the U2 spy plane either.  It existed though.  They
> don't always tell us everything.

But why should data recovery people not advertize this? It
would or at least could generate some business.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Alexander Skwar]

Stroller wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2006, at 11:28, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>>>
>>> This is not what normally (or at least, _always_) happens when you
>>> format a hard-drive.
>>
>> Well, depends on the definition of "format". If you
>> define format as "overwrite partition table", than
>> you're right. But that's hardly what I'd call "format".
> 
> I was referring to the definition of "format" generally used by the  
> authors & suppliers of formatting utilities. If you format a disk in  
> Windows, or certainly if you "quick format" it, it doesn't run a  
> quick call to `dd if=/dev/zero of=/de/hdX`; it merely overwrites the  
> partition table so the data IS often recoverable after a format.

Yes, that's correct, as you are referring to quick format.

> If you were merely formatting a disk for your own use, had no  
> expectation that it would fall into anyone else's hands, and were in  
> a hurry to use the disk with its new filesystem on it, you would  
> surely be wasting time were you to insist on blanking every single  
> bit on the device - it's simply not necessary.

But with normal hardware, you cannot be sure that you
overwrite every single bit on the harddrive when
you "shred" it with some software tool. I'm referring
to mapped away bad sectors. Those sectors might contain
interesting data. But with normal tools, you won't be
able to ever get to those sectors.

> I am not qualified to comment on recovery of data from a disk that  
> has been wiped with zeros in the way you describe, nor from one which  
> has been shredded properly with repeated iterations of random & non- 
> random bits, but there certainly does seem to be a lot of hearsay on  
> the subject.

Yes, that's absolutely correct. And, once again, it totally
baffles me, that there are so extremely few reports of
overwritten data being recovered. Be it once with "0",
be it multiple times with a Gutman algorithm.

> I would consider the a disk that's been comprehensively  
> overwritten once to be unrecoverable from the practical perspective  
> of the original discussion (a mate in the pub) but do consider a disk  
> that's been over-written with shred to be unrecoverable as far as my  
> customers' commercial data is concerned.

Well. If you believe in data recovery to be possible, than
you cannot be sure that a shredded disk is not recoverable.
I most certainly do agree, that a shredded disk is not
recoverable - but IMO even a drive overwritten once with
0 is not recoverable, if we disregard mapped away sectors.

> Whilst writing this I looked up `info shred` which claims:
> 
> If you have sensitive data, you may want to be sure that recovery
> is not possible by actually overwriting the file with non-sensitive
> data. However, even after doing that, it is possible to take the
> disk back to a laboratory and use a lot of sensitive (and expensive)
> equipment to look for the faint "echoes" of the original data
> underneath the overwritten data.  If the data has only been  
> overwritten
> once, it's not even that hard.

How old is that? I don't think that this is still true wrt.
modern drives.

> The best way to remove something irretrievably is to destroy the
> media it's on with acid, melt it down, or the like.

Yep.

> The info page references Peter Gutmann's paper `Secure Deletion of  
> Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory'.

Which is *extremely* old now and refers to technologies
that are long gone. Modern drives don't resemble MFM much
anymore. Because of that, I've got my doubts about how much
of the Gutman paper is still valid.

> I'm not qualified to  
> assess this paper fully, and hard-drives have progressed considerably  
> in the last decade,

Exactly. Development in hard drive technology has progressed
enourmously.

> I state once again that I'm not really qualified to comment on the  
> subject to this depth,

Me neither.

> I would be grateful if you refrained in any future responses  
> from the sneering manner you have employed in those to date.

Pardon?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Ian Kester-Haney]

All very interesting, the fact is that a hard drive is a physical
medium and the magnetic field is very malleable.  It is very possible
to recover the data even if some random trash has been written over
it.  The way hard drives use elaborate algorithyms to 'guess' the
contents with huge accuracy suggests that any approach is possible. 
This one reason why real security experts run multiple ie 14 passes at
least with random data and very likely use Electromagnets of extreme
power to reduce the chance of data recovery.

While the practicality is not there to recover data that has been
overwritten a couple of times is economically untennable, I'm sure the
NSA can do it if it really wanted your data, of course you would have
to REALLY PISS THEM OFF to force their hand.  Data recovery firms
could do it if you paid them enough.


On 2/2/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> > Alexander Skwar wrote:
> >>Dale wrote:
> >>>Grant wrote:
>
> >>>I think we all know it can be done.
> >>>
> >>
> >>No, we don't.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, some of us do.
>
> Well, some believe it to be possible. But not "we all" do think
> so and much less "know" it.
>
> >>>Data recevery people do it too.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Do they? Why don't they advertise this?
> >>
> >
> > They didn't advertize the U2 spy plane either.  It existed though.  They
> > don't always tell us everything.
>
> But why should data recovery people not advertize this? It
> would or at least could generate some business.
>
> Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

[Chris Woods]

I think it's safe to say that none of us really knows what resources  
are available to certain organizations to aid in data forensics.


I have personal experience with data recovery, at least peripherally.  
A company I worked for was the subject of an attack by a disgruntled  
ex-employee who managed to erase a LOT of crucial corporate data, but  
mostly just using rm -rf type techniques. The data was nearly 100%  
recovered over the course of three weeks or so. I can't say much more  
about the specifics of the situation, as it became a criminal matter  
and law enforcement was involved and I don't want to put myself in  
the position of having to answer to the FBI and Treasury Dept. A  
friend who worked for the same company was a submariner in the US  
Navy - what his exact role was, I don't know (he was very secretive  
about it) but he did say that the "unofficial" rule with his Navy  
colleagues was that the only way to guarantee a disk to be  
unrecoverable was to put a bullet through it.


I think that various government agencies and corporate entities have  
far more ability to recover data than we're aware.


I had read somewhere several years ago that the NSA considered  
magnetic media to be unrecoverable if it was completely overwritten  
with random data, and then all zeroes, three times.


Best guess really is that none of us truly knows, and if somebody is  
looking to destroy data, the media should be physically destroyed.


cheers,
Chris

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[gentoo-user] Re: mod_php USE Flag question

[Harm Geerts]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 17:08, Robin wrote:
> I was looking at some of the flags associated with mod_php using the
> equery u mod_php command.  And something going me wondering about the
> pam USE flag.  Should I consider removing it and Re-emerging ?
>
> This is what the description says:
> Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - DANGEROUS to
> arbitrarily flip
>
> What I don't get is the DANGEROUS part.  I am just curious.  I posted
> to the #gentoo and searched the forums without result.  And idea would
> be appreciated.
PAM is used for authentication of users. If you would disable it for packages 
like openssh this could lock you out of your system is there is no fallback 
for user authentication.
Which is why you shouldn't flip (switch between on/off) the pam USE flag 
without giving it a certain degree of thought.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Redefining a single key in Xorg 6.8?

[Harm Geerts]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 18:39, Michael Kjorling wrote:
> I run x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 and would like to redefine a single
> key on the keyboard. I found a number of tutorials on how to create a
> completely custom keyboard layout, but this seems like overkill.
>
> How do I change this one key without creating a whole new layout,
> preferably only for my own account?
Have a look at xmodmap, it allows you to (re)map keys.
The manpage should provide you with enough information and examples.
# man xmodmap
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Re: [gentoo-user] Redefining a single key in Xorg 6.8?

[Benno Schulenberg]

Michael Kjorling wrote:
> How do I change this one key without creating a whole new layout,
> preferably only for my own account?

See 'man xmodmap', the examples near the end, things like:

  xmodmap -e "keycode 240 = a A space Return"

Put the required xmodmap command in your .bashrc.

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[gentoo-user] usb-storage module

[Mikhail Yarmish]

Hello guys. I need to plug usb-flash card in vmware but usb-storage 
module taking up control before it. So if understand right - I need to 
unload that module. But I can't see it with lsmod but can with ps aux. 
So what should I do to plug it?

lsmod:

vmnet  28740  -
vmmon 166604  -
snd_seq_midi6560  -
snd_seq_midi_event  5704  -
snd_seq50352  -
snd_pcm_oss47264  -
snd_mixer_oss  16584  -
nvidiafb   48004  -
cfbcopyarea 3528  -
cfbimgblt   2568  -
cfbfillrect 3464  -
softcursor  1544  -
fb 39720  -
snd_ens137014436  -
snd_rawmidi20224  -
snd_seq_device  6772  -
snd_pcm81220  -
snd_timer  20812  -
snd_page_alloc  8144  -
snd_ak4531_codec6856  -
snd45284  -
soundcore   6816  -
nvidia   3464924  -

ps aux:
root  7356  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S21:38   0:00 
[usb-storage]



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SOLVED: [gentoo-user] Redefining a single key in Xorg 6.8?

[Michael Kjorling]

On 2006-02-02 19:51 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> See 'man xmodmap', the examples near the end, things like:
> 
>   xmodmap -e "keycode 240 = a A space Return"

Great, thanks! I thought xmodmap was what I was looking for but missed
the part on the -e switch.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] usb-storage module

[Richard Fish]

On 2/2/06, Mikhail Yarmish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello guys. I need to plug usb-flash card in vmware but usb-storage
> module taking up control before it. So if understand right - I need to
> unload that module. But I can't see it with lsmod but can with ps aux.
> So what should I do to plug it?

This means usb-storage is built into your kernel (=y instead of =m in
the .config file) instead of as a module.  So you need to reconfigure
and rebuild your kernel to modularize it.

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[gentoo-user] USE flags - Why use ntpl/ntplonly in make.conf?

[Jeff]

Just wondering - how would my system benefit from using ntpl/ntplonly? I
don't see very much 'official' documentation of these USE flags, but
Googling, I see a lot of people using it to 'optimize' their gcc/system.

Anyone care to comment?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags - Why use ntpl/ntplonly in make.conf?

[fire-eyes]

Jeff wrote:
> Just wondering - how would my system benefit from using ntpl/ntplonly? I
> don't see very much 'official' documentation of these USE flags, but
> Googling, I see a lot of people using it to 'optimize' their gcc/system.
> 
> Anyone care to comment?
> 

Myself I tried ntpl (and also ntplonly at someones suggestion). It is
supposed to offer better thread support, especially if you have an SMP
or dual core system. I have an SMP system.

Maybe it was just for me, but this turned into a total disaster. I later
found that it was due to setting ntplonly, which apparently disables
old, non-ntpl support entirely. Which is very very bad for apps that
don't yet support ntpl, or something like that.

My suggestion is to talk to gentoo devs, and decide for yourself if you
think it's worth it. And by all means stay away from ntplonly.

Today my system is ntpl (without ntplonly), on an SMP system, and I
don't notice any improvement at ALL. Which is VERY annoying considering
the complete insanity I went through for about a week.

Yes, I know only some apps support ntpl, but the impression given to me
was that it would speed up the whole system. Which is certainly not true.

Yes, others can flame me.

Good Luck.
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Re: [gentoo-user] usb-storage module

[Mikhail Yarmish]

Richard Fish wrote:


On 2/2/06, Mikhail Yarmish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hello guys. I need to plug usb-flash card in vmware but usb-storage
module taking up control before it. So if understand right - I need to
unload that module. But I can't see it with lsmod but can with ps aux.
So what should I do to plug it?
   



This means usb-storage is built into your kernel (=y instead of =m in
the .config file) instead of as a module.  So you need to reconfigure
and rebuild your kernel to modularize it.

-Richard

 


Oh. Thanks a lot man!
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[gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo experiences with wireless router Sitecom WL-114

[Marco Calviani]

Hi list,
  i'm currently using a wireless Sitecom router WL-114 with my ADSL
Netgear modem, and eveything works smoothly. However i have two
problems:
1) as of the printed manual the WL-114 supports the WPA cryptography
option. But using the web interface program it does not appear as
options.
2) i'm not able to upgrade the firmware to newer versions: it seems to
upgrade succesfully but, after rebooting, the router appears to have
the same older version.

Does anyone experienced any of this?

Best regards,
MC

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags - Why use ntpl/ntplonly in make.conf?

[Jeff]

Ooop... my apologies... it's NPTL! Duh me!!!

http://gentoo-wiki.com/NPTL

fire-eyes wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> 
>>Just wondering - how would my system benefit from using ntpl/ntplonly? I
>>don't see very much 'official' documentation of these USE flags, but
>>Googling, I see a lot of people using it to 'optimize' their gcc/system.
>>
>>Anyone care to comment?
>>
> 
> 
> Myself I tried ntpl (and also ntplonly at someones suggestion). It is
> supposed to offer better thread support, especially if you have an SMP
> or dual core system. I have an SMP system.
> 
> Maybe it was just for me, but this turned into a total disaster. I later
> found that it was due to setting ntplonly, which apparently disables
> old, non-ntpl support entirely. Which is very very bad for apps that
> don't yet support ntpl, or something like that.
> 
> My suggestion is to talk to gentoo devs, and decide for yourself if you
> think it's worth it. And by all means stay away from ntplonly.
> 
> Today my system is ntpl (without ntplonly), on an SMP system, and I
> don't notice any improvement at ALL. Which is VERY annoying considering
> the complete insanity I went through for about a week.
> 
> Yes, I know only some apps support ntpl, but the impression given to me
> was that it would speed up the whole system. Which is certainly not true.
> 
> Yes, others can flame me.
> 
> Good Luck.

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[gentoo-user] Bugday reminder

[Bjarke Istrup Pedersen]

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Alright everybody, it's time again to start breaking your systems and
reporting bugs.
It will be on next Saturday, 2006-02-04 :-)

This time we would like people to try out some packages in ~arch and see
how they run, so we can get them moved to stable.
I'll see if I can get a list together of packages.

As always, if people have questions, we are at #gentoo-bugs on
irc.freenode.net

Hope to see you all there.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD and DVD indexing tool

[Tamas Sarga]

Hi,

Tom Eastman wrote:

Hey all,

I'm looking for a utility that could be used for indexing the contents
of the dozens and hundreds of CDRs and DVDRs that I've amassed over the
years.  I was kind of thinking just a heap of text files with the
contents of 'tree' or 'ls -R' or something, but it would be nicer if
there was some kind of metadata gathering, such as ID3 tags / JFIF /
MPEG info etc. etc.

Are there tools available that are any good at this?  Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Tom

  



Try cdcat (cdcat.sourceforge.net)!

HTH.
Cheers,
Tamas Sarga
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue

[Franta]

Hmmm ... ``man'' thet's what? Can you explain it a bit? ;)

I've tried some help pages to get my custom settings working. Well,
upgrade means your customizings go to hell. We're o Linux or on
Windows?

Well, we're on Linux. Windows don't know customizings at all. ;) Maybe
I'll start over from scratch over weekend. ... but it's annoying.

Best Gentoo rule: NEVER DO ``EMERGE -U WORLD!!'' ?

Don't get me wrong but it's a thing happening VERY often. The last
upgrade cut me off from the net. I had to ``ifconfig'' ``route''
manually. Thanks god, that the upgrade the day after fixed this.

This way we'll never become an accepted (and supported) distro.

Just an IMHO
Frank

On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 16:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 2/1/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2/1/06, Franta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There have been a _lot_ of changes in udev, and most likely your
> 
> Oh, forgot to mention..."man udev".
> 
> -Richard
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:17:00 +0100, Franta wrote:

> I've tried some help pages to get my custom settings working. Well,
> upgrade means your customizings go to hell. We're o Linux or on
> Windows?

Your are on Linux, which means you have more control but have to take
responsibility for your own actions. Custom udev rules should go
in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules, like in says in the guide.
/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules is for system rules and may be
updated along with the software.


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[gentoo-user] eclipse on amd64 and a general question

[Álvaro Castro]

HI!!!

I've been reading some bug reports in different pages
about problems  loading eclipse on amd64.
As it is masked, you have to unmask it both in
package.keywords and package.mask. I've tried many
combinations (as I really don't a have a clue of what
i'm doing) of ~x86 and ~amd64 architectures. Finally,
everything is unmasked under ~x86, but it doesn't
work... :-(
I've read is a bug solved in blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03,
but it still doesn't work.


Did anyone run succesfully eclipse under AMD64.

And a more general question is the famous UNMERGING.
If I want to remove all the packages that have been
merged together with the eclipse (or any other), the
dependencies.


Thanks a lot, (and thanks for answering such a basic
question)

.alvaro.castro.



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Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 23:17 +0100, Franta wrote:

> Best Gentoo rule: NEVER DO ``EMERGE -U WORLD!!'' ?
> 
> Don't get me wrong but it's a thing happening VERY often. The last
> upgrade cut me off from the net. I had to ``ifconfig'' ``route''
> manually. Thanks god, that the upgrade the day after fixed this.

are you fixing your ._cfg files after you do an update?
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[gentoo-user] Error: Couldn't find a font for 'Helvetica'

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi all,

evince (the nice lite pdf viewer) is giving me this error:
Error: Couldn't find a font for 'Helvetica'

by the pageful.  And the font it uses seems to be squished up, and in
some cases I even get many blank pages.  This happens with just about
any pdf.

I have quite a few font packages installed, but is there something I
might be missing?  Do I need to set some configuration option for font
directories somewhere?

thanks for any ideas,
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[gentoo-user] Re: eclipse on amd64 and a general question

[Harm Geerts]

On Friday 03 February 2006 00:00, Álvaro Castro wrote:
> HI!!!
>
> I've been reading some bug reports in different pages
> about problems  loading eclipse on amd64.
> As it is masked, you have to unmask it both in
> package.keywords and package.mask. I've tried many
> combinations (as I really don't a have a clue of what
> i'm doing) of ~x86 and ~amd64 architectures. Finally,
> everything is unmasked under ~x86, but it doesn't
> work... :-(
> I've read is a bug solved in blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03,
> but it still doesn't work.
>
> Did anyone run succesfully eclipse under AMD64.
Yes, I have been running eclipse for some time now.
I've seen a few workarounds for the problems with eclipse in 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-283429.html

> And a more general question is the famous UNMERGING.
> If I want to remove all the packages that have been
> merged together with the eclipse (or any other), the
> dependencies.
You can use this:
# emerge depclean -a

BIG FAT WARNING: the success of this command relies heavily on the state of 
your system. If you have maintained your system well it will only clean the 
dependencies that are not actively used. If you haven't maintained your 
system that well it might unmerge some essential packages as well.

By actively I mean dependencies controlled by USE flags. Some packages will 
still use a library even though it's not in the packages (R)DEPEND list.

Make sure you review the list of packages before proceeding to unmerge them. 
If you see a package that doesn't belong on the unmerge list you can add it 
to the portage world file with `emerge --noreplace `

After you've unmerged dependencies with depclean you must run the following 
command to fix broken libraries/executables that were using the a passive 
dependency.
# revdep-rebuild -p
revdep-rebuild is part of app-portage/gentoolkit

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Re: [gentoo-user] cellphones and gentoo

[Quag7]

On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:26 +, James wrote:

> 
> I've been thinking about T-mobile and a plan for voice and 
> wireless data access to the internet. (Anyone happy with T-mobile?) 

I don't know how they are nationally, but T-Mobile was awful here in the
Tucson area.  Enough that I cancelled and switched to Verizon.

Try: http://www.cellreception.com as a starter to narrow things down.

 -Quag7

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[gentoo-user] Gnome upgrade removed Open Terminal from right click

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   How does one add a specific operation to the right click menu one
gets on the Gnome desktop?

   I really want to get this back. In Gnome, I've always had an 'Open
Terminal' when I right click on the desktop. It's gone missing as of
today's updates on two of our machines.

   Thanks in advance for letting me know how to do this.

thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] fglrx works. Yeah! Umm, now nothing exits. Uh oh!

[Bruce Burden]

Okay, I have fglrx as the driver in the xorg.conf file.
  And, at 24 bit resolution, xdm starts X. Bliss!

Then I realized that nothing was completing if it created
  an xterm of output or so. Drat!

OS is Gentoo 2.6.15-gentoo-r1. Xorg is 6.8.2. Machine is
  a HP ZD8000 with an ATI X600 Mobile Radeon.

Any ideas what is going on? Clearly it is related to
  X and fglrx, as the xorg.conf "ATI" driver doesn't do this.

Modules:

agpgart
ati_agp
fglrx

Thanks,
Bruce
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS -- fails better!

[maxim wexler]

 Perhaps you
> should try lprng 
> instead of CUPS as your print spooler - it may be a
> better option for 
> what you're trying to do.

Did emerge -C cups and emerge lprng now every attempt
at using lpr results in

Get_local_host: hostname 'sarawak' bad

What do they mean bad? When I run hostname, "sarawak"
appears.

> 
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> 
> ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and
> significant law,
> no man may kill a cat.   -- H.P.
> Lovecraft
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> 
> 


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[gentoo-user] Backup device (sata hdd) best filesystem

[Harry Putnam]

I'm about to format 2 200gb sata drives and one 300gb ATA for use as
recipients of all backups.  This will mostly consist of rsnapshot
created files.  And a number of tar.gz and other compression type
files maybe some ISO type files etc.

I'm backing up two winxp video/sound editing machines 2 gentoo boxes
including my person main desktop and laptop and my wifes winxp home
box.

I guess one consideration would be what file system works well with
remote network backup tools like rsnaphot or bacula.  All of ext2 ext3
and reiserfs seem to do about the same to me.

I've seen comments many times about the virtues of reiserfs and that
is currently what most of my desktop is (except ext2 boot).  That is
new for me I always used ext2 then ext3 when it became common.

I've seen nothing remarkable using reiserfs but have no real idea of
what to expect and really NO idea what would make a good backup fs. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Backup device (sata hdd) best filesystem

[John Jolet]

On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:12 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:


I'm about to format 2 200gb sata drives and one 300gb ATA for use as
recipients of all backups.  This will mostly consist of rsnapshot
created files.  And a number of tar.gz and other compression type
files maybe some ISO type files etc.

I'm backing up two winxp video/sound editing machines 2 gentoo boxes
including my person main desktop and laptop and my wifes winxp home
box.

I guess one consideration would be what file system works well with
remote network backup tools like rsnaphot or bacula.  All of ext2 ext3
and reiserfs seem to do about the same to me.

I've seen comments many times about the virtues of reiserfs and that
is currently what most of my desktop is (except ext2 boot).  That is
new for me I always used ext2 then ext3 when it became common.

I've seen nothing remarkable using reiserfs but have no real idea of
what to expect and really NO idea what would make a good backup fs.

I've not done any benchmarking...however, due to the way they work,  
what i've heard is that reiser is better for lots of small files,  
while ext3 performs better with fewer large files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Abiword 2.2.11 crashes

[Adrian]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:24:27 +0100
Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words:

> Adrian wrote:
> > Suddenly I've stated having a problem with Abiword 2.2.11 --
> > every time I cut or copy text it crashes.  This version was
> > working fine.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >  [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.4 [2.12.0] -debug +doc
> > +ssl -static 661 kB
> 
> If you run 'emerge -pet abiword', you'll see that it indirectly 
> depends on orbit.  A 'revdep-rebuild -p -v' will show what needs 
> rebuilding.  Otherwise you've found a bug.
> 
> Benno

Thank you --  I did the revdep-rebuild and found some other problems,
but didn't seem to be a problem with orbit.  I tried recompiling orbit,
but that didn't help.  I was gonna go back to version 2.12.0 but it's no
longer in protage.  A manual install of orbit 2.12.0 resulted in Abiword
not being able to find the libraries.  Thus I'm back where I started. 
I'm gonna call it a bug and go from there.

Thanks again for the help.

Adrian
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS -- fails better!

[Manuel McLure]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 18:56, maxim wexler wrote:
> Did emerge -C cups and emerge lprng now every attempt
> at using lpr results in
>
> Get_local_host: hostname 'sarawak' bad
>
> What do they mean bad? When I run hostname, "sarawak"
> appears.

I think this happens if /etc/hosts and /etc/conf.d/hostname don't match up 
correctly. Make sure /etc/hosts has a line for sarawak with your machine's IP 
address.

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[gentoo-user] Viewing SVG/SVGZ files.

[Abhay Kedia]

Hello Everyone,

I have downloaded SVG/SVGZ wallpapers from kde-look.org but when I try to view 
SVG/SVGZ in konqueror, firefox or such programs, I get weird output.

When I try to open SVGZ files in Konqueror, I get XML Parsing Error while 
Firefox shows a pop-up to save the file some where. On using Kview, I get 
"Unknown Image Format" while "Eye of Gnome" doesn't do anything, just sits 
there without even throwing an error.

In case of SVG files, they open fine in Firefox and eog but in Konqueror I get 
"image/svg+xml" written on the page while kview once again complains of 
"Unknown Image Format".

Here I must mention that both SVGZ and SVG files open fine in Opera.

It seems that I have missed some USE flag or not installed some libraries 
because of which this is happening. I tried to google but came up with only a 
Adobe SVG Viewer. Do I need to install that or is there some other GPLed 
solution available? Any pointers in helping me solve this silly mistake of 
mine will be really great.

TIA

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[gentoo-user] Problems with alsa-driver - disagrees about version of symbol snd_timer_stop

[Alexander Skwar]

Hi.

Yesterday I upgraded to alsa-driver-1.0.11_rc3. Since then,
I cannot load alsa drivers anymore. In syslog, I get when
running "/etc/init.d/alsasound start":

[...]
snd_via82xx: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ac97_tune_hardware
snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_tune_hardware
snd_seq: disagrees about version of symbol snd_timer_stop
snd_seq: Unknown symbol snd_timer_stop
[...]

I also tried recompiling alsa-driver - didn't help.

Kernel: suspend2-sources-2.6.15-r5

Anyone else noticed this problem?

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing SVG/SVGZ files.

[Willie Wong]

On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:50:18AM +0530, Penguin Lover Abhay Kedia squawked:
> SVG/SVGZ in konqueror, firefox or such programs, I get weird output.
> 
> When I try to open SVGZ files in Konqueror, I get XML Parsing Error while 
> Firefox shows a pop-up to save the file some where. On using Kview, I get 
> "Unknown Image Format" while "Eye of Gnome" doesn't do anything, just sits 
> there without even throwing an error.
> 
> In case of SVG files, they open fine in Firefox and eog but in Konqueror I 
> get 
> "image/svg+xml" written on the page while kview once again complains of 
> "Unknown Image Format".
> 
For konquerer and kview, did you install ksvg?

[10:33 PM]wwong ~ $ emerge search ksvg
Searching...   
[ Results for search key : ksvg ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
 
 *  kde-base/ksvg
   Latest version available: 3.4.3
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
   Size of downloaded files: 6,400 kB
   Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
   Description: SVG viewer library and embeddable kpart
   License: GPL-2


It seems to be required (http://svg.kde.org/) for KDE to view scalable
vector graphics. 

Which version of eog do you have? 2.12.2 should have support for
image/svg+xml

Since you have problem with svgz files in both firefox and eog, please
check your /etc/mime.types file to make sure that both svg and svgz
are associated with image/svg+xml.

HTH, 

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[gentoo-user] python-2.4.2-r1 problems

[Rumen Yotov]

Hi,
Just emerged newest python-2.4.2-r1 - on all ~x86 system.
Next emerge broke due to missing internal python module (fcntl).
After that all python dependent apps stopped working.
The only way to fix this was to manually unpack python-2.4.2 on /.
Anybody else having such problems? Still didn't file a Bug, maybe later.
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing SVG/SVGZ files.

[Abhay Kedia]

On Friday 03 February 2006 12:01, Willie Wong wrote:
>
> For konquerer and kview, did you install ksvg?
>
No but now I did and it works great in KDE related things. Thanks a lot for 
this :)

>
> Which version of eog do you have? 2.12.2 should have support for
> image/svg+xml
>
> Since you have problem with svgz files in both firefox and eog, please
> check your /etc/mime.types file to make sure that both svg and svgz
> are associated with image/svg+xml.
>
I am using eog-2.12.2. I did not have mime-types installed thus 
no /etc/mime.types. Now, I have emerged it but have a different problem 
in Firefox. When I try to open svgz files it shows the following error
--
XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: file:///foo.svgz
Line Number 1, Column 1:
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eog doesn't change its behaviour and sits there as I explained earlier.

Thanks for the ksvg idea and will be reall greatful if firefox worked as well.

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[gentoo-user] ImageMagick -contrast-stretch

[John Green]

Hi,

The ImageMagick option -contrast-stretch is not recognised
in my installation (6.2.5 01/31/06 Q16).  The option is documented on the
IM web-site.

If the option exists on your installationi, or you have any insights,
please reply here with your version, so I can decide whether and
where to file a bug-report.

You can do something like this:

convert input.jpg -contrast-stretch 10% output.jpg

Thanks.

J Green
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