Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, [solved] -- where do the flags come from?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:36:22 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

> > That would be unworkable as flags are added or removed. It would also
> > override and changes to the defaults without your knowing why. Get
> > into the habit of using -av with emerge. You'll son see when you need
> > to make changes to the flags.
 
>   I prefer to start off USE in /etc/make.conf with "-*", and then
> explicitly list the flags I want turned on.  I also control a few
> packages with /etc/portage/package.use.  This combines to give me full
> control over what's going on...  that's the Gentoo spirit.

You could be adversely affected by missing new flags or when flags change
names. I prefer to explicitly specify the flags I know I do or do not want
and leave the rest to their defaults.

emerge -uavDN world warns me iof there have been any changes affecting
my installed packages. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE preferences

[Jorge Almeida]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:38:24 +0100 (WEST), Jorge Almeida wrote:


When kde started the first time, the wizard
showed its face and I told it to quit (didn't want to lose my
preferences, of course).


You didn't have any preferences, that's why the wizard started.


I know, but the point is that preferences should exist.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE preferences

[Jorge Almeida]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:45:17 +0100 (WEST), Jorge Almeida wrote:


rm -fr ~/.kde3.4
cp -a ~/.kde3.3 ~/.kde3.4



Nope.


Nope what? Nope, it didn't work? nope you didn't try it?


Didn't work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE preferences

[Jorge Almeida]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Norberto Bensa wrote:


Neil Bothwick wrote:

My best guess is that you didn't
emerge whichever component is responsible for this.


I think it is kdebase-startkde


It was emerged.

Thanks,

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[gentoo-user] gpasswd not function immediately?

[Qiangning Hong]

I want to create a crontab for my account using "crontab -e". However
system tells me I have no permission to run crontab.  I checked the
"Gentoo Linux Cron Guide"_ and find that I must add my account to the
cron group to use crontab.  Follow the guide, I ran:

$ sudo gpasswd -a hongqn cron

and run "crontab -e" again.  But bash still tells me "Permission
denied".  It seems the system has not recoginized I am already a cron
group member immediately.  Maybe it reads a cache somewhere?  If so, how
can I flush that cache?

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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpcd 2.0.0 - Boot process hangs

[Stefan Frank]

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 19.02, Christoph Daldrup wrote:
> Am 31.08.2005 18:44 schrieb Sergio Polini:
> > I emerged -uvDN world on Sunday and dhcpcd 2.0.0 is masked.
>
> According to  , it
> isn't anymore, at least for amd64, x86 and sparc. ;)
>
> On my local system, it ist masked through the package.mask file now.
>
> Christoph

I just did a emerge -u dhcp and I was able to do /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart 
without problems. Try to clear the cache of dhcpcd under /var/lib/dhcpc (?) 
and to start it again. 

Maybe you should consider using sys-apps/ifplugd. It's quite useful - it 
starts the net.ethX only if the cable is plugged in. If there is a problem, 
you just could remove the plug and the net.ethX is not started. And you may 
not use Knoppix to solve such problems, there are possibilities to append a 
boot option in GRUB/LILO (there was just a thread about it) to boot into 
single mode.

Hope this helps!

Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:58:36 -0400, John Dangler wrote:

> I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then
> switch to another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some
> idea of the mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and what
> is available in each one individually...

I don't know about GNOME, but in KDE you right click the window's
titlebar and select Advanced  -> Special window settings. Here you can
specify how the program opens its windows, including which desktop (or
all of them).


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Re: [gentoo-user] sacked my rc.conf

[W.Kenworthy]

bunyip ~ # cat /etc/rc.conf


# /etc/rc.conf: Global startup script configuration settings
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/rc.conf,v 1.30.4.1
2005/02/10 01:11:52 vapier Exp $

# UNICODE specifies whether you want to have UNICODE support in the
console.
# If you set to yes, please make sure to set a UNICODE aware CONSOLEFONT
and
# KEYMAP in the /etc/conf.d/consolefont and /etc/conf.d/keymaps config
files.

UNICODE="yes"

# Set EDITOR to your preferred editor.
# You may use something other than what is listed here.

#EDITOR="/bin/nano"
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vim"
#EDITOR="/usr/bin/emacs"

# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ]
DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"

# XSESSION is a new variable to control what window manager to start
# default with X if run with xdm, startx or xinit.  The default behavior
# is to look in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and run the script in matching the
# value that XSESSION is set to.  The support scripts are smart enough
to
# look in all bin directories if it cant find a match
in /etc/X11/Sessions/,
# so setting it to "enlightenment" can also work.  This is basically
used
# as a way for the system admin to configure a default system wide WM,
# allthough it will work if the user export XSESSION in
his .bash_profile, etc.
#
# NOTE:  1) this behaviour is overridden when a ~/.xinitrc exists, and
startx
#   is called.
#2) even if ~/.xsession exists, if XSESSION can be resolved, it
will
#   be executed rather than ~/.xsession, else KDM breaks ...
#
# Defaults depending on what you install currently include:
#
# Gnome - will start gnome-session
# kde- - will start startkde (ex: kde-3.0.2)
# Xsession - will start a terminal and a few other nice apps

XSESSION="Gnome"


bunyip ~ #


On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 00:16 -0600, Jason W Elliot wrote:
> I accidentally removed my rc.conf file (don't ask).  I'm not sure how to 
> write a new one.  Is there a good set of defaults to start with?  Is there 
> an easy way to recover the old one, or generate a new one?  Please help! 
> My configuration now sucks!
> 
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge win fails -- what to do

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:37:47 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> A second ebuild in the latest batch failed for me. This time it's wine.
> Again, I'm not sure how to report such a thing; 

http://bugs.gentoo.org

> maybe someone could point me in the right direction.

It's over there -->

:)


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Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

[Philip Webb]

050831 John Dangler wrote:
> As in - workspace1 | workspace2 | workspace3 | workspace4
> (bottom right of the task bar in gnome desktop)
> I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace
> and then switch to another, those apps don't appear,
> I'd like to customize what starts & is available in each individually.

You must be completely new to any kind of Linux desktop (smile).

Workspaces -- or 'desktops' as a lot of us tend to call them --
are the basic way of organising your activities with Linux.
All (?) window managers have them & they work fairly uniformly.
I use KDE (also Xfce & Blackbox earlier) & have never used Gnome,
but have never noticed a significant difference in how they function.

I have  10  defined: (1) games, (2) user console, (3) editor, (4) e-mail,
(5) Internet (Firefox & Lynx usually), (6) Viewer (photos, maps),
(7) root console, (8) Gkrellm (system info), (9-10) spare, eg for work.
Your activities may be different, but that should give you an idea.

I find  2 - 3  apps running on any  1  desktop is enough:
you can minimise them to the taskbar or shade them to show only the titlebar.
You can move app windows to another desktop via R-click on the titlebar (KDE)
& KDE (I assume Gnome too) will restart apps on the same desktops
after you shut down & re-enter X (typically after an overnight power-off).
You can move between desktops via the pager in the panel (as you know)
or via Cntl-F1 etc (KDE) or via mouse-wheel on panel or empty desktop.
It's easy to create/remove new/existing desktops, tho' I never do that.
KDE allows you to have different backgrounds for each window,
eg I have a fiery orange-red for (7) root console: see your control centre.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:55 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > >2) If it's a file in /etc/initd then I update it automatically.
> 
> This rule is still true. I am not a programmer and will never edit an
> init script. For me these are 100% updated ASAP.

Add /etc/init.d to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK in /etc/make.conf and they'll be
updated even sooner.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gpasswd not function immediately?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:35:07 +0800, Qiangning Hong wrote:

> $ sudo gpasswd -a hongqn cron
> 
> and run "crontab -e" again.  But bash still tells me "Permission
> denied".  It seems the system has not recoginized I am already a cron
> group member immediately.  Maybe it reads a cache somewhere?  If so, how
> can I flush that cache?

You need to log out and in again. The groups command will tell you which
groups you are a member of in the current shell.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Philip Webb]

050831 Matt Garman wrote:
> what window manager do you use, and why?

I've done my own review a couple of times, when dissatisfied,
so I have an idea of what each of a fair number does.

I started with a very primitive KDE on an early Mandrake,
read about Xfce, tried it -- version 3.18.8 -- , liked it & adopted it:
it was more elegant than KDE, but fully capable of managing my activities.
Soon afterwards, the Xfce devs brought out a total rewrite (4.0.0),
which never lived upto their promises & lacked items from 3.18.8 .

Finally, irritated by the state of things around Xfce, 
I did another review & discovered Blackbox (0.65),
which was very simple, but also fully useable once I found out how.
Soon afterwards, the Blackbox dev (there's only one) brought out a rewrite
-- 0.70 -- which didn't work with some of the BB plug-ins & gadgets,
making it impossible to use without constant irritation.

As I had KDE installed to support useful apps, I went back to that
& have found that it is now fast & highly configurable to my tastes
with a very wide range of useful features, so that is today's choice.
I like to use the whole of my 15" screen & KDE allows me to hide the panel;
I rely on the R-click desktop menu to start apps.

The KDE team did a very thoro' survey of users' requests c 2003
& as a result introduced a host of improvements, which shine today.
They also made a real effort to make the whole thing much faster
& now the Gentoo devs have split it up into easy bits for emerging.

I do have Fluxbox installed as a back-up, in case KDE falls down a hole.
Fvwm looks like a meta-WM which can be infinitely configured
& I still have it installed, but haven't pursued it anywhere.

My strong preference is for something I can use & look at day after day
without being distracted by candy or hindered by awkwardnesses.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Philip Webb]

050831 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> How can I find out the last few things I emerged?

It's all in  /var/log/emerge.log , which just keeps growing.

If you want the detailed messages which run up the screen during an emerge,
goto  /etc/make.conf  & set (dirname to taste)

  PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/emerge-logs

which will add  2  new files to that dir for each emerge you do.

NB this will build up rapidly, so be careful if your disk space is limited.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 04:30:41 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> If you want the detailed messages which run up the screen during an
> emerge, goto  /etc/make.conf  & set (dirname to taste)
> 
>   PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/emerge-logs
> 
> which will add  2  new files to that dir for each emerge you do.
> 
> NB this will build up rapidly, so be careful if your disk space is
> limited.

Gzipping them saves a lot of space, i do it from a cron job

$ cat /etc/cron.daily/portagelogs
#!/bin/bash

for f in $(portageq envvar PORT_LOGDIR)/*.log; do
gzip -f $f 2>/dev/null || echo "Failed to gzip $f"
done


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Re: OT [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Uwe Thiem]

On 01 September 2005 09:30, Philip Webb wrote:

> NB this will build up rapidly, so be careful if your disk space is limited.

I like that: ... if your disk space is limited. Where can I purchase unlimited 
disk space?

Sorry - couldn't resist. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with mysql

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 18:04 -0500, Paul Maszy wrote:
> 
>>You shouldnt have restarted. 
>>
>>mysql is already starting on boot up. It showing that many mysql
>>daemons is normal and ok. 
>>
[snip]
> 
> 
> I ran /etc/init.d/mysql stop and it stopped without error - all of them.
> I ran /etc/init.d/mysql start and it started again - now there are a
> whole lot of them in the ps listing, but I can connect with the mysql
> client.  It seems to be fixed for now..
> 
> 
Just in case doubts are still there look at the output of "ps fax" that
show a tree of processes:

breakall # ps fax | grep mysql
30560 pts/0S+ 0:00  \_ grep mysql
 7504 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe [...]
 7542 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaul[...]ck
 7543 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld --de[...]d.sock
 7544 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld [...]ysqld.sock
 7545 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld [...]ysqld.sock
[.]
 7565 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld [...]ysqld.sock
 7583 ?S  0:02  \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld [...]ysqld.sock

there is "mysqld_safe" that is a shell script, it's only a wrapper
around "mysqld" the real daemon.
mysql is a threaded application, and ps show all it's threads.

Just a hint, try to *avoid* "kill -9" and use a simply "kill" or "pkill"
if it's possible.

ah maybe that on other system you can't see all the threads with "ps",
that's nothing to worry about, probably that box is using "nptl" .

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Re: [gentoo-user] sacked my rc.conf

[John Jolet]

Here's mine...not much in it.
On Thursday 01 September 2005 01:16, Jason W Elliot wrote:
> I accidentally removed my rc.conf file (don't ask).  I'm not sure how to
> write a new one.  Is there a good set of defaults to start with?  Is there
> an easy way to recover the old one, or generate a new one?  Please help!
> My configuration now sucks!
>
> Thanks in advance!
> --
>   Jason

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# /etc/rc.conf: Global startup script configuration settings
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/rc.conf,v 1.30.4.1 2005/02/10 
01:11:52 vapier Exp $

# UNICODE specifies whether you want to have UNICODE support in the console.  
# If you set to yes, please make sure to set a UNICODE aware CONSOLEFONT and 
# KEYMAP in the /etc/conf.d/consolefont and /etc/conf.d/keymaps config files.

UNICODE="no"

# Set EDITOR to your preferred editor.
# You may use something other than what is listed here.

#EDITOR="/bin/nano"
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vim"
#EDITOR="/usr/bin/emacs"

# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ]
DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

# XSESSION is a new variable to control what window manager to start
# default with X if run with xdm, startx or xinit.  The default behavior
# is to look in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and run the script in matching the
# value that XSESSION is set to.  The support scripts are smart enough to
# look in all bin directories if it cant find a match in /etc/X11/Sessions/,
# so setting it to "enlightenment" can also work.  This is basically used
# as a way for the system admin to configure a default system wide WM,
# allthough it will work if the user export XSESSION in his .bash_profile, etc.
#
# NOTE:  1) this behaviour is overridden when a ~/.xinitrc exists, and startx
#   is called.
#2) even if ~/.xsession exists, if XSESSION can be resolved, it will
#   be executed rather than ~/.xsession, else KDM breaks ...
#
# Defaults depending on what you install currently include:
#
# Gnome - will start gnome-session
# kde- - will start startkde (ex: kde-3.0.2)
# Xsession - will start a terminal and a few other nice apps

#XSESSION="Gnome"

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Martins Steinbergs]

> > what window manager do you use, and why?

I stick with KDE, got on it since kde 3.0. and still using it 'cause just i am 
confortable with it, and looks pretty.
Also got installed"
Gnome - to run gnope apps
Xcfs - for emergency
e 17 - just for eye, and actualy this works even if xorg goes bad

had used icewm and blackbox on one old box, but now that box is gone.

However, hello to everyone

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[gentoo-user] Emerge of glibc-2.3.5-r1 fails

[Lincoln Baxter]

Hi, 

I consistently get an ACCESS DENIGHED error will trying to emerge glibc.  Does anyone else get this:

make[2]: Entering directory `/scratch/i686/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/glibc-2.3.5/timezone'
/bin/install -c
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/timezone/tzselect
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/bin/tzselect.new
mv -f
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/bin/tzselect.new
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/bin/tzselect
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/elf/ld-linux.so.2
--library-path
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/math:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-
2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/elf:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/dlfcn:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/nss:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-
2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/nis:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/rt:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/resolv:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-
2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/crypt:/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/linuxthreads
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/timezone/zic
-d /build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/share/zoneinfo
-L /dev/null -y ./yearistype africa
ACCESS DENIED   unlink:   
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-linuxthreads/timezone/zic:
Can't remove
/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers:
Permission denied
make[2]: *** [/build/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/image//usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/scratch/i686/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/glibc-2.3.5/timezone'
make[1]: *** [timezone/subdir_install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/scratch/i686/portage.tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r1/work/glibc-2.3.5'
make: *** [install] Error 2

Once this occurs the emege dies.  My make.conf is pretty generic:



USE="Xaw3d apache2 dvd evo expat fbcon gd innodb moznocompose moznoirc
 moznomail pda unicode usb v4l vim-with-x xinerama -arts -kde -qt
 -svga"


CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
CFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
PKGDIR=/build/packages
DISTDIR=/build/distfiles
PORT_LOGDIR=/build/portage.log
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/build/portage.tmp

CCACHE_SIZE="512M"
ALSA_CARDS='sbawe'

Thanks for any light you can shed.

Lincoln

Re: [gentoo-user] Pixie does not run.

[Adrian]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:15:33 -0400
"Dave Nebinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words:

> > pixie: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libdpstk.so.0: undefined
> > symbol: DPSDefaultErrorProc
> 
> A google search for libdpstk indicates that this is a core library for
> x11 with some references to it being obsolete.  I've got one for my
> xorg-x11 install, so it must not be too obsolete...
> 
> A google search for DPSDefaultErrorProc brought back a pointer to the
> header file xc/include/DPS/dpsclient.h which seems to indicate that
> DPSDefaultErrorProc is the default error handler for postscript error
> reporting.  Being that it's the default, it definitely should be in
> the libs...
> 
> Using the nm tool with find, I see that the DPSDefaultErrorProc is
> marked as undefined in libdpstk.so, but appears to be defined in
> libdps.so.
> 
> So it would appear that you have some sort of linking issue going
> on...
> 
> For a quick fix I'd suggest trying to build pixie manually and ensure
> that you include a -ldps in your LDFLAGS.
> 
> Whether it's a bug or not in the ebuild I couldn't venture to guess.

Hi Dave --  thanks for the response.  I'm not sure I understand it all,
but I understand enough to get me started and do some testing.  One
question however, when you say to build pixie manually, what do you mean
by building it manually?  Is that different from 

emerge pixie

??

If you could clarify for me I would be most grateful.  Thanks much.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpcd 2.0.0 - Boot process hangs

[Christoph Daldrup]

Am 01.09.2005 09:41 schrieb Stefan Frank:

> I just did a emerge -u dhcp and I was able to do /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart 
> without problems. Try to clear the cache of dhcpcd under /var/lib/dhcpc (?) 
> and to start it again. 

Thanks for that suggestion, I will try later.

> Maybe you should consider using sys-apps/ifplugd. It's quite useful - it 
> starts the net.ethX only if the cable is plugged in. If there is a problem, 
> you just could remove the plug and the net.ethX is not started. 

I am using ifplugd, but when the cable is not connected, it tries to
start my wifi connection with dhcp...

> And you may not use Knoppix to solve such problems, there are
> possibilities to append a boot option in GRUB/LILO (there was just a
> thread about it) to boot into single mode.

Thanks for that hint, too. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Holly Bostick]

Nagatoro schreef:
> 
> [Way off topic]
> But where did you find AA? I've looked around and all I've seen is
> "sorry tray again later when we've upgraded the linux code"
> 

Portage?

eix america
* games-fps/americas-army
 Available versions:  230
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.americasarmy.com/
 Description: America's Army: Special Forces - military
simulations by the U.S. Army to provide civilians with insights on
soldiering

Found 1 matches

According to the site, that's the latest version available for Linux
(though there's a 2.4 version for Windows):

Latest Full Client Info
America's Army For Windows Users :
AA:SF (Q-Course) v.2.4 (855 MB) - This is the full windows installation.

Linux & Mac versions are still at v2.3 (Firefight). We will update the
links to v2.4 once they become available.

HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Pixie does not run.

[Dave Nebinger]

> Hi Dave --  thanks for the response.  I'm not sure I understand it all,
> but I understand enough to get me started and do some testing.  One
> question however, when you say to build pixie manually, what do you mean
> by building it manually?  Is that different from
> 
> emerge pixie

Yeah.  Basically you do the following:

1. get the tarball either from the home site or /usr/portage/distfiles to
your home directory.  Usually if I'm going to do a manual build I grab the
latest stable distribution from the home site.
2. extract the tarball then cd into the directory.
3. Run the configure script, but you have two options: a) use "./configure
--prefix=/usr" to replace the pixie that portage emerged or b) use
"./configure --prefix=/usr/local" to get a clean local copy.
4. Build using the make command.
5. At this point you can test in the local directory to see if it works.
6. If you're happy with the build, su then "make install".



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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/local - one thing led to another

[John J. Foster]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:26:08PM -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
> > 
> You should use rc-update to run the startup script. Local is for commands 
> that you want run, not really a great way to run other startup scripts. The 
> command you want is probably `rc-update add rc.firewall default`. 
>  -Mike

Last nigh I started to add rc.firewall to the default runlevel, but I
noticed that there was already an iptables script in /etc/init.d.
Reading through it, and it companion in /etc/conf.d, it became clear
that this seemed like the more elegant solution. So I did the following:

/root > /etc/rc.firewall# to start the guarddog firewall
/root > /etc/init.d/iptables save   # to save the current state
/root > rc-update add iptables default  # to start automatically
/root > reboot

At first this didn't work because the rc.firewall script loaded necessary
kernel modules for ip-conntrack, etc... I decide to build that
capability into the kernel instead of using modules.

All is working right now, and I don't have to worry about any changes
made to guarddog, as the iptables script saves state before shutting
down.

Thanks for the pointers,
John - who realizes that he needs a better understanding of initscripts

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[krzaq]

On 9/1/05, Matt Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Anyway, I was just hoping to start a "pub"-style conversation on
> what people like/disklike in a window manager.
Xfce4 is really great in my opinion. KDE is just ... too much. I see all tons 
of icons/apps that I never use and get discouraged.

I also use icewm from time to time.
Its very simple, small and has most features you would want from a WM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

[Holly Bostick]

Neil Bothwick schreef:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:58:36 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
> 
> 
>> I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then 
>> switch to another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some
>>  idea of the mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and 
>> what is available in each one individually...
> 
> 
> I don't know about GNOME, but in KDE you right click the window's 
> titlebar and select Advanced  -> Special window settings. Here you 
> can specify how the program opens its windows, including which 
> desktop (or all of them).
> 
> 
That is a  'cool KDE feature' that GNOME doesn't have. Gnome =>v2,
anyway. Apparently Gnome 1.x (which used sawfish for its WM)
did have some capacities in this respect. However, as previously
mentioned, GNOME will remember what desktop a program was opened
on in the last session, if the session was saved with the program open.

But of course, all programs do not support saving their session state at
the close of session (Mozilla, Firefox and T-bird being noticeable among
this group), so that won't always help.

I can't believe no one has mentioned it, but this function (should you
choose to use it) is exactly what devilspie is for. It was designed to
attempt to recreate the window-matching properties of Sawfish for other WMs.

The prinicple is that devilspie watches (invisibly) for a window opening
event, and when one occurs, it compares the properties of that window to
the properties of the windows that you have said you want acted upon in
the config, and then acts upon the window as you specified in the
config. You have a fair amount of flexibility in what qualities of the
window you want matched (you could match all gaim windows, or only the
ones that have 'MSN' in the title) and you have a wide range of
operations you can perform on the specified window (send it to a
particular desktop, maximize/minimize./size to a particular size, make
sticky/pin on all desktops, set it to a particular location on the
desktop, etc).

The documentation is decidedly minimal, and it's a good thing to know
about 'xprop' to get the properties of application windows in the first
place, but the included sample and reference is enough to get started
with, and experimentation is not difficult. Certainly it works well and
does what it says on the tin, afaics (and I've been using it for some time).

However, as someone who has set up many applications to be on specific
desktops, I will say that you might find it not as useful as it seems at
first glance, depending on how you work. It can be quite distracting to
open a program-- let's say a file manager-- because there was a message
in a terminal saying 'look at thus and so file', and have the file
manager open on a different desktop than the terminal (because normally
you want the fm out of your way when you're working with it, but in this
case you don't). So such a configuration is somewhat constricting in
terms of using many applications.

But for applications that aren't used flexibly (like Thunderbird, which
I always open on desktop 1, so it's never in my way and I don't mind
switching desktops to check my mail while I'm waiting for an emerge to
finish), it can be useful.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge can't create lock in NFS exported distfiles directory

[Alexander Skwar]

Neil Bothwick schrieb:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:55:36 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
>> As you can see, emerge (/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_locks.py) failed
>> to create a lock file - or rather failed to lock the file.
> 
> Add distlocks to FEATURES in make.conf

I already had distlocks in the FEATURES - must be some
default thing, as I did not add in the make.conf. Anyway,
I now added distlocks in make.conf - still no go :(

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -vat app-text/txt2man

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-text/txt2man-1.4.8-r1  11 kB

Total size of downloads: 11 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
>>> emerge (1 of 1) app-text/txt2man-1.4.8-r1 to /
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 3200, in ?
mydepgraph.merge(mydepgraph.altlist())
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 1912, in merge
retval=portage.doebuild(y,"merge",myroot,self.pkgsettings,edebug)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 2664, in doebuild
if mydo!="manifest" and not fetch(fetchme, mysettings, listonly=listonly, 
fetchonly=fetchonly):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 1819, in fetch
file_lock = 
portage_locks.lockfile(mysettings["DISTDIR"]+"/"+locks_in_subdir+"/"+myfile,wantnewlockfile=1)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_locks.py", line 93, in lockfile
fcntl.lockf(myfd,fcntl.LOCK_EX|fcntl.LOCK_NB)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge info | grep -i FEAT
FEATURES="autoconfig ccache distcc distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge info | grep DISTDIR
DISTDIR="/Gentoo/Portage/distfiles"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep /Gentoo/Portage/distfiles /etc/autofs/auto.misc
distfiles   
-fstype=nfs,bg,hard,tcp,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nfsvers=3,timeo=14 
server:/Gentoo/Portage/distfiles

On the "server":

/Gentoo/Portage/distfiles   
*.bei.digitalprojects.com(sync,rw,no_root_squash)

Why is portage failing to create a lock? (Answer: Because
it's not allow - "Permission denied". Q: Why is the permission
not granted? What to do, to grant the permission?)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Holly Bostick]

Neil Bothwick schreef:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 04:30:41 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 
> 
>> If you want the detailed messages which run up the screen during an
>>  emerge, goto  /etc/make.conf  & set (dirname to taste)
>> 
>> PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/emerge-logs
>> 
>> which will add  2  new files to that dir for each emerge you do.
>> 
>> NB this will build up rapidly, so be careful if your disk space is 
>> limited.
> 
> 
> Gzipping them saves a lot of space, i do it from a cron job
> 
> $ cat /etc/cron.daily/portagelogs #!/bin/bash
> 
> for f in $(portageq envvar PORT_LOGDIR)/*.log; do gzip -f $f
> 2>/dev/null || echo "Failed to gzip $f" done
> 
> 

Can they not also be rotated with logrotate (I just set logrotate up to
do this, I think, but since I just did it, and set it for monthy, I
don't know if it works yet)? But honestly, I don't see why I'd need an
emerge.log from 6 months ago anyway (or even last month), so is there
anything wrong with that option? Or have I wasted 2 minutes of time :) ?

Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] sacked my rc.conf

[Jason W Elliot]

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

-Jason


On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote:


bunyip ~ # cat /etc/rc.conf


# /etc/rc.conf: Global startup script configuration settings
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/rc.conf,v 1.30.4.1
2005/02/10 01:11:52 vapier Exp $

# UNICODE specifies whether you want to have UNICODE support in the
console.
# If you set to yes, please make sure to set a UNICODE aware CONSOLEFONT
and
# KEYMAP in the /etc/conf.d/consolefont and /etc/conf.d/keymaps config
files.

UNICODE="yes"

# Set EDITOR to your preferred editor.
# You may use something other than what is listed here.

#EDITOR="/bin/nano"
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vim"
#EDITOR="/usr/bin/emacs"

# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ]
DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"

# XSESSION is a new variable to control what window manager to start
# default with X if run with xdm, startx or xinit.  The default behavior
# is to look in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and run the script in matching the
# value that XSESSION is set to.  The support scripts are smart enough
to
# look in all bin directories if it cant find a match
in /etc/X11/Sessions/,
# so setting it to "enlightenment" can also work.  This is basically
used
# as a way for the system admin to configure a default system wide WM,
# allthough it will work if the user export XSESSION in
his .bash_profile, etc.
#
# NOTE:  1) this behaviour is overridden when a ~/.xinitrc exists, and
startx
#   is called.
#2) even if ~/.xsession exists, if XSESSION can be resolved, it
will
#   be executed rather than ~/.xsession, else KDM breaks ...
#
# Defaults depending on what you install currently include:
#
# Gnome - will start gnome-session
# kde- - will start startkde (ex: kde-3.0.2)
# Xsession - will start a terminal and a few other nice apps

XSESSION="Gnome"


bunyip ~ #


On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 00:16 -0600, Jason W Elliot wrote:

I accidentally removed my rc.conf file (don't ask).  I'm not sure how to
write a new one.  Is there a good set of defaults to start with?  Is there
an easy way to recover the old one, or generate a new one?  Please help!
My configuration now sucks!

Thanks in advance!
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge can't create lock in NFS exported distfiles directory

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:25:52 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Why is portage failing to create a lock? (Answer: Because
> it's not allow - "Permission denied". Q: Why is the permission
> not granted? What to do, to grant the permission?)

Maybe this will give a clue?

# ls -ld /mnt/portage/distfiles/.locks/
drwxrwxr-x  2 root portage 72 Sep  1 11:34 /mnt/portage/distfiles/.locks/

My .locks directory is owned by the portage group, and group-writeable.


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Re: OT [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Matt Randolph]

Uwe Thiem wrote:


On 01 September 2005 09:30, Philip Webb wrote:

 


NB this will build up rapidly, so be careful if your disk space is limited.
   



I like that: ... if your disk space is limited. Where can I purchase unlimited 
disk space?


Sorry - couldn't resist. ;-)

Uwe

 



You just have to use one of the many algorithms for infinitely 
compressing random data that have been issued U.S. patents*.  How else 
did you think single floppy based Linux distributions are possible?  ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the emerge history

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:30:18 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

> > Gzipping them saves a lot of space, i do it from a cron job
> > 
> > $ cat /etc/cron.daily/portagelogs #!/bin/bash
> > 
> > for f in $(portageq envvar PORT_LOGDIR)/*.log; do gzip -f $f
> > 2>/dev/null || echo "Failed to gzip $f" done
> > 
> > 
> 
> Can they not also be rotated with logrotate (I just set logrotate up to
> do this, I think, but since I just did it, and set it for monthy, I
> don't know if it works yet)? But honestly, I don't see why I'd need an
> emerge.log from 6 months ago anyway (or even last month), so is there
> anything wrong with that option? Or have I wasted 2 minutes of time :) ?

These are the individual log files, two  per emerge, in PORT_LOGDIR.

Using logrotate on emerge.log would save space, but would affect the use
of genlop --current, which uses this file to estimate emerge times. It's
probably not worth rotating, my desktop has only accumulated 6MB of data
in 15 months, my server has 2.2MB after 33 months. On the other
hand, /var/log/portage on the desktop is 88MB gzipped (almost 1GB
unpacked) and well overdue for a clear out.


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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?

[brettholcomb]

I was afraid of that .  There is a bug with rmmod causing crashing in 
Bugzilla. What puzzles me is these two systems have never had any problem at 
all - I even did a make oldconfig with the 2.6.11 .config so they would be the 
same.

> 
> From: Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/08/31 Wed PM 10:34:59 EDT
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?
> 
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 04:13, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems.  I am
> > running 2.6.11-r6 with no problems on a system with an Adaptec 39160 card.
> > I tried to go to 2.6.12-r6 and r9 but kept getting kernel panics on boot.
> > I have another system I'm installing Gentoo on that has an Adaptec 2940uw
> > on and since I was using 2005.0 it had 2.6.12 on it and would not boot.  I
> > found that on both systems if I build the aic7xxx as a module I can get
> > further in the boot process.  I also tried 2005.1 but that is a disaster
> > on both systems.  I tell it to noload=aic7xxx and it loads it anyway which
> > results in system not running.
> >
> > Is it just me .
> 
> it have to ;)
> 
> I have an adaptec 2944 card and it works without problems (just did a big 
> restore through it with an 2.6.12-gentoo* kernel). At least none while 
> booting ;)
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?

[brettholcomb]

I tried 2.6.12-r9 which was released a short time ago.  I'm in the process of 
trying the old driver.
> 
> From: Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/01 Thu AM 02:05:46 EDT
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?
> 
> 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Charles Marcus]

IceWM (with ROXFiler if you want Desktop icons, etc)

lightening fast, easy to configure

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge can't create lock in NFS exported distfiles directory

[Alexander Skwar]

Neil Bothwick schrieb:
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:25:52 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
>> Why is portage failing to create a lock? (Answer: Because
>> it's not allow - "Permission denied". Q: Why is the permission
>> not granted? What to do, to grant the permission?)
> 
> Maybe this will give a clue?

Not really :(

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -ld /Gentoo/Portage/distfiles/.locks
drwxrwsr-x  2 root portage 6  1. Sep 18:01 /Gentoo/Portage/distfiles/.locks

Hm. Now all of a sudden, it works. Strange.

The only change was, that I rebooted "server".

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[gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Philip Webb]

I've installed kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 & find Gkrellm doesn't show sensors.
There's no problem with 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 .
The same modules are being installed & removed at each (re)boot.

There is a recent thread on the forum which reported
that removing ACPI from the kernel config options solved the problem,
but I've just done that & it made no difference.

Has anyone else encountered this problem or have any advice ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gpasswd not function immediately?

[Rumen Yotov]

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:35 +0800, Qiangning Hong wrote:
> I want to create a crontab for my account using "crontab -e". However
> system tells me I have no permission to run crontab.  I checked the
> "Gentoo Linux Cron Guide"_ and find that I must add my account to the
> cron group to use crontab.  Follow the guide, I ran:
> 
> $ sudo gpasswd -a hongqn cron
> 
> and run "crontab -e" again.  But bash still tells me "Permission
> denied".  It seems the system has not recoginized I am already a cron
> group member immediately.  Maybe it reads a cache somewhere?  If so, how
> can I flush that cache?
> 
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> 
> Registered Linux User #396996
> Get Firefox! 
> Thunderbird! 
Hi,
i think you'll have to logout & login to activate this change.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Holly Bostick]

Philip Webb schreef:
> I've installed kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 & find Gkrellm doesn't show
> sensors. There's no problem with 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 . The same modules
> are being installed & removed at each (re)boot.
> 
> There is a recent thread on the forum which reported that removing
> ACPI from the kernel config options solved the problem, but I've just
> done that & it made no difference.
> 
> Has anyone else encountered this problem or have any advice ?
> 

That seems odd... I just *started* using lm_sensors for the first time
with 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 (no previous experience, thus), and once I got the
hang of it, it worked fine.

If lm_sensors the package compiles against the kernel, as I would
imagine it must, it would need to be re-emerged when you upgraded the
kernel.

Perhaps that's the problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] WEP woes

[Nick Smith]

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 10:52 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:

> any help or a config file would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Nick
> 
no one has anything?

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[gentoo-user] PC hardware failure

[Martins Steinbergs]

hi there,

this isn't really linux, but anyway
i have one old Celeron 850 box and during overnight full system scan with 
clamav, something gone wrong. now the state is that turning power on no IDE 
devices found, and as i write, i think memory isn't detected also. what these 
problems relies to? witch part i can throw away?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC hardware failure

[John Jolet]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 12:24, Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> hi there,
>
> this isn't really linux, but anyway
> i have one old Celeron 850 box and during overnight full system scan with
> clamav, something gone wrong. now the state is that turning power on no IDE
> devices found, and as i write, i think memory isn't detected also. what
> these problems relies to? witch part i can throw away?
>
> martins
can you get into the bios?  quite possibly the hard drive has died, but if it 
won't detect hard drive and won't detect memory, I think it's pretty much 
toast.

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[gentoo-user] TV Programs problem (was Pinnacle MediaCenter 300i)

[Luigi Pinna]

Hello!
I prefer to open a new thread because the card works...
I can say that I solve the problem (I tried to modprobe the module 
saa7134_dvb e the analog and the digital devices were created).
The real problem is a program configuration problem: I done a scan with 
tvtime without problem, I can see and listen the analog TV; but if I 
try kdetv or xawtv they cannot access to device! 
The same problem with kaffeine: it sees the dvb card but it cannot use 
the tuner and it is unable to find the channels!
What is it wrong?
One more question: I can't set the fullscreen with tvtime (it opens the 
fullscreen but there is only a 720x576 visible windows in the top left 
corner), what must I do?
Thanks a lot,
Luigi
PS. The remote control another time ;-)

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[gentoo-user] emerge (?) broke thunderbird opening links in firefox

[Antoine]

Hi,
I think it was that anyway - I certainly haven't played with the config 
of either for a long time. I get nothing when I run thunderbird from the 
cl either... I searched for a preference somewhere but couldn't find 
anything.

Any ideas?
Cheers
Antoin
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC hardware failure

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 19:24, Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> hi there,
>
> this isn't really linux, but anyway
> i have one old Celeron 850 box and during overnight full system scan with
> clamav, something gone wrong. now the state is that turning power on no IDE
> devices found, and as i write, i think memory isn't detected also. what
> these problems relies to? witch part i can throw away?

the power supply.

This beasts are made from the cheapest stuff.

A clamav-scan means lot of harddisk activity, the CPU has also something to 
do...
The harddisk may be toast too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Andrew MacKenzie]

+++ Holly Bostick [gentoo-user] [Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:03:47PM +0200]:
> If lm_sensors the package compiles against the kernel, as I would
> imagine it must, it would need to be re-emerged when you upgraded the
> kernel.
I don't mean to thread-hijack, but...

I was just thinking that it would be really nice if after I run "genkernel"
I got a list of packages that need to be recompiled against the new kernel
(i.e. nvidia-kernel, zaptel, lm_sensors, etc.).

I inevitably forget which packages need to be re-emerged...

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Holly Bostick]

Andrew MacKenzie schreef:
> +++ Holly Bostick [gentoo-user] [Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:03:47PM 
> +0200]:
> 
>> If lm_sensors the package compiles against the kernel, as I would 
>> imagine it must, it would need to be re-emerged when you upgraded 
>> the kernel.
> 
> I don't mean to thread-hijack, but...
> 
> I was just thinking that it would be really nice if after I run 
> "genkernel" I got a list of packages that need to be recompiled 
> against the new kernel (i.e. nvidia-kernel, zaptel, lm_sensors, 
> etc.).
> 
> I inevitably forget which packages need to be re-emerged...
> 

Or... since you know (sometimes) which of such packages need to be
re-emerged, and you also know when you have upgraded your kernel, you
*could* just write a (one line) script to re-emerge the relevant
packages, throw it in /usr/sbin or whatever (optional), and run
it after you upgraded a kernel.

I've been meaning to do that for some time now, since it's much easier
to maintain (you only have to add any new packages the first time you
emerge them, then you're free to forget what you want :) ).

Holly
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[gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Nick Smith]

I cant seem to find networkmanager anywhere in portage, i have checked
the gentoo-portage site, done numerous searched with emerge and cant
seem to locate it, there website says gentoo has it "Your favorite Linux
distribution probably already has packages for NetworkManager. Fedora
Core, Debian, and Gentoo, are supported out of the box. You can use your
distributions package management tools to download and install the
NetworkManager programs if it has been packaged for your distro."

anyone running this? what is it called in portage?

thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for Lost Labyrinth

[Markus Döbele]

Hy Nick,

I uploaded a new version 1.0.4 yesterday.
Maybe it would be best if you monitor the page of this game on sourceforge.
Than I can easily send you a notice everytime I upload a new version.

I am working a lot for the game right now. And so there will be a lot of new 
versions in the near future.
And I don't want to post everytime to this newsgroup. This is for gentoo and 
not for laby, i think :-)


Am Montag, 29. August 2005 22:54 schrieb Nick Rout:
> yes well when it is in portage the file will be updated into the portage
> tree automatically. in the meantime you have to download both the ebuild
> and the wrapper script, same as for any other new ebuild. Sorry if I
> didn't make this clear in the email with the new ebuild.
>
> I don't think its correct for an ebuild to create a script on the fly,
> ie embedded in the ebuild itself.
>
>
> FYI I have found a "games ebuild howto" which may lead me to change how
> the ebuild works before committing it to bugzilla and the terrible and
> swift swords of the devs...
>
> For example i stored the highscores.dat file (which needs to be writable)
> in /usr, whereas you shouldn't have programs writing to /usr, so it
> should go in /var somewhere.
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:47:02 -0700
>
> Greg Bengeult wrote:
> > Nick Rout wrote:
> > >did you have the laby wrapper script
> > >in /usr/local/portage/games-roguelike/laby/files  ??
> > >
> > >I posted the wrapper script with the first version of the ebuild.
> >
> > Nope, I didn't keep a copy of it at the time.  To be considered
> > complete, the ebuild should either include a copy of the wrapper or
> > should create it on the fly.  The user shouldn't have to do anything
> > more than "emerge laby".
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:48:50 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

> Or... since you know (sometimes) which of such packages need to be
> re-emerged, and you also know when you have upgraded your kernel, you
> *could* just write a (one line) script to re-emerge the relevant
> packages, throw it in /usr/sbin or whatever (optional), and run
> it after you upgraded a kernel.
> 
> I've been meaning to do that for some time now, since it's much easier
> to maintain (you only have to add any new packages the first time you
> emerge them, then you're free to forget what you want :) ).

Some packages only compile against the running kernel, others use
the /usr/src/linux symlink to decide. So I have a few lines
in /etc/conf.d/local.start to take care of such re-emerges when I reboot
with a new kernel.


# Re-emerge NVidia drivers after a kernel compile
lsmod | grep --quiet nvidia || grep --quiet softlevel /proc/cmdline || \
(FEATURES="-distcc -buildpkg -sandbox" emerge --oneshot nvidia-kernel 
&& modprobe -v nvidia && /etc/init.d/xdm stop zap start)

# Rebuild VMware modules if needed
lsmod | grep --quiet vmnet || grep --quiet softlevel /proc/cmdline || 
/opt/vmware/bin/vmware-config.pl default

# Re-emerge fuse
lsmod | grep --quiet fuse || FEATURES="-distcc -buildpkg" emerge --oneshot 
sys-fs/fuse && modprobe -v fuse

#Re-emerge wlan-ng
if [ ! -f /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/linux-wlan-ng/prism2_usb.ko ] ; then
if rc-status -nc | grep -q net\.eth0.*started && ethtool eth0 | grep -q 
'Link detected: yes' ; then
FEATURES="-distcc -buildpkg" emerge --oneshot linux-wlan-ng
fi
fi


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[gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Stuart Howard]

Hi

Long story short 
- power outage damages hard drive 
- under liveCD data can still be read [phew]
- comp will not boot from damaged hdd
- man runs to shop and buys new hdd plus UPS
- installed new hdd | /dev/hda
- old damaged hdd is /dev/hdb [3 partitions, hdb1 = /boot ext3, hdb2 =
/swap, hdb3 = /root reiserfs]

My question :-

I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?

I created a set of similar partitions on new hda with same filesystems
then attempted a cp which indeed copied the data but machine refused
to boot, sensed that I had been too obvious so after much googling I
have looked into parted though with no sucess as yet.

If someone could recommend a fools guide to this process I would
appreciate it, as I am tired somewhat poorer and generally fed up.


stu

ps. Essential files from Gentoo system are backed up to another
machine though not full system and I am loathed to reinstall Gentoo
then copy over these files when I am sure there is a better way of
"restoring" complete system from one hard drive to another.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:53, Nick Smith wrote:
> I cant seem to find networkmanager anywhere in portage
What is networkmanager ? url ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[John Jolet]

On Sep 1, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Stuart Howard wrote:



My question :-

I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?

I created a set of similar partitions on new hda with same filesystems
then attempted a cp which indeed copied the data but machine refused
to boot, sensed that I had been too obvious so after much googling I
have looked into parted though with no sucess as yet.


boot from live cd. mount new partitions under /mnt/gentoo (just like  
an install).  chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

now you're on your new drive.  grub-install /dev/new_hd_device.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Christoph Eckert]

> What is networkmanager ? url ?

knetworkconf.sf.net?

Will be part of KDE 3.5.


Best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Alexander Skwar]

José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández schrieb:
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:53, Nick Smith wrote:
>> I cant seem to find networkmanager anywhere in portage
> What is networkmanager ? url ?

Dunno what it is, but it seems to be 
.

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[gentoo-user] loopback device (lo, net.lo) cannot be brought up sucessfully at first try: SIOCSIFADDR: File exists/SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address ...

[Alexander Skwar]

Hello!

Since recently, I cannot bring up the loopback device at
the first attempt. Running net.lo fails like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.lo start
 * Starting lo
 *   Bringing up lo
 * 127.0.0.1/8
SIOCSIFADDR: File exists
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address [ !! ]

When I run the command right again, it wokrs just fine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.lo start
 * Starting lo
 *   Bringing up lo
 * 127.0.0.1/8[ ok ]
 *   Adding routes
 * 127.0.0.0/8 ...[ ok ]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
Linux blatt 2.6.12-ck6.020.sysvipc #1 Fri Aug 26 18:19:03 CEST 2005 i686 
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ epm -qf /etc/init.d/net.lo
baselayout-1.12.0_pre7

Any ideas, why this might be like this?

Thanks,

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[gentoo-user] (AMD64) wrong soundcard is becoming default - Gnome unhappy

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   In my previous Athlon XP I was using two sound cards - an AP2496
and an RME HDSP 9652. I had /etc/modules.d/alsa set up so that the
AP2496 was the default card and the HDSP wa used only when I
specifically called it.

   On my new AMD64 machine I wanted to do much the same thing except
I'm using the onboard sound as well as an RME HDSP 9652. Unfortunately
for some reason it seems that the HDSP 9652 is being made default and
this is not making Gnome happy:

lightning ~ # cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [CK804  ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK804
 NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xda103000, irq 185
1 [default]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
 RME Hammerfall HDSP 9652 at 0xda00, irq 209
lightning ~ #

Here's /etc/modules/alsa. Note that I do not want OSS emulation for
the HDSP 9652 so that portion is set up only for the NVidia sound.
This worked for the AP2496/HDSP combo:

# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: 
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v
1.4 2004/11/16 01:31:22 eradicator Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##  ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-hdsp
options snd-hdsp index=1
##  OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=2

   After editing this file I run modules-update and then either
/etc/init.d/alsasound restart or do a reboot. In both cases, on this
machine, Gnome sees no sound card since it's using OSS emulation and
(apparently) pointing at the HDSP.

   How can I get Alsa to point at the NVidia chip as far as Gnome is concerned?

NOTE: alsamixer works and goes to the NVidia chip. alsactl store seems
to store good info.

Tech info:

lightning ~ # lspci
:00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory
Controller (rev a3)
:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3)
:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2)
:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3)
:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
:00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f2)
:00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
Controller (rev f3)
:00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
Controller (rev f3)
:00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
:00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
:00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
:00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
:00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370
5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
:05:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Xilinx Corporation RME
Hammerfall DSP (rev 68)
lightning ~ #


lightning ~ # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
snd_seq_midi7872  0
snd_pcm_oss50912  0
snd_mixer_oss  16960  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss33152  0
snd_seq_midi_event  8256  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq54752  5 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_hdsp   49860  0
snd_rawmidi24032  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_hdsp
snd_seq_device  7436  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep   9376  1 snd_hdsp
snd_intel8x0   32128  1
snd_ac97_codec 85392  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm89928  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hdsp,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  22408  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd51080  14
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_hdsp,snd_ra

Re: [gentoo-user] loopback device (lo, net.lo) cannot be brought up sucessfully at first try: SIOCSIFADDR: File exists/SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address ...

[John Jolet]

On Sep 1, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Alexander Skwar wrote:


Hello!

Since recently, I cannot bring up the loopback device at
the first attempt. Running net.lo fails like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.lo start
 * Starting lo
 *   Bringing up lo
 * 127.0.0.1/8
SIOCSIFADDR: File exists
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Cannot assign requested address
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested  
address [ !! ]
um, why are you having to start loopback by hand?  does it fail to  
start on boot?

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:36:59 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:

> My question :-
> 
> I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?

If both drives are the same size

dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096


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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[John Jolet]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:36:59 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:
> > My question :-
> >
> > I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?
>
> If both drives are the same size
>
> dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install step?
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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Holly Bostick]

Alexander Skwar schreef:
> José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández schrieb:
> 
>> On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:53, Nick Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> I cant seem to find networkmanager anywhere in portage
>> 
>> What is networkmanager ? url ?
> 
> 
> Dunno what it is, but it seems to be
> .
> 
> 
> Alexander Skwar

Looking at the site, it seems to be a GNOME package. Turns out I have it
available from an old sync with breakmygentoo (which I really have to
take out of my overlay list one of these days, but at least this time
it's useful):

gnome-extra/NetworkManager [2]
 Available versions:  *0.3.1 ~0.3.1.030505 ~0.3.1.050205
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/
 Description: Network policy manager for the HAL-ized
freedesktop.org

Notwithstanding that bmg is not an official resource, nor a recommended
one, at least now you have the package info in terms of what category
it's in, and what the package would be called under Portage, if it was
in Portage, which it does not appear to be.

There is, however, an ebuild for 0.3.1 on b.g.o--

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69396

which can 'legitimately' be put in one's overlay.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Ben Blount]

MBR is probably damaged, hence why it won't boot. I would run
grub-install just to be sure.

You could also mount your old disk and the new disk, then use
 cp -R /mnt/olddisk/* /mnt/newdisk/
(putting in the appriopriate mount locations of course)

Ben Blount

On 9/1/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:36:59 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:
> > > My question :-
> > >
> > > I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?
> >
> > If both drives are the same size
> >
> > dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
> will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install step?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Holly Bostick]

Peter Ruskin schreef:
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 20:37, Andrew MacKenzie wrote:
>> I don't mean to thread-hijack, but...
>> 
>> I was just thinking that it would be really nice if after I run 
>> "genkernel" I got a list of packages that need to be recompiled 
>> against the new kernel (i.e. nvidia-kernel, zaptel, lm_sensors, 
>> etc.).
>> 
>> I inevitably forget which packages need to be re-emerged...
> 
> 
> emerge -v $(equery b /lib/modules | sed -e 's:^:>=:' )
> 

Peter, why does running this command give me the following output:

emerge -v $(equery b /lib/modules | sed -e 's:^:>=:' )
!!! No command or unknown command given


cfg-update 1.7.1 : Building checksum index... (takes a few seconds)  done!


!!! Error: -, is an invalid short action or option.

??

I don't know enough about scripting to 'debug' it, but I do know I don't
see any loose '-' that is meant to precede an option (but does not).

So I really don't know what the error is trying to tell me. Am I missing
some essential piece of the puzzle (I certainly have both equery and sed)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[John Jolet]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:16, Ben Blount wrote:
> MBR is probably damaged, hence why it won't boot. I would run
> grub-install just to be sure.
>
> You could also mount your old disk and the new disk, then use
>  cp -R /mnt/olddisk/* /mnt/newdisk/
I'd do a cp -pR if I did that, to maintain permissions.  or even use rsync, 
it'll go MUCH quicker.

> (putting in the appriopriate mount locations of course)
>
> Ben Blount
>
> On 9/1/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:36:59 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:
> > > > My question :-
> > > >
> > > > I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested
> > > > route?
> > >
> > > If both drives are the same size
> > >
> > > dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
> >
> > will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install step?
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Holly Bostick]

Ben Blount schreef:
> MBR is probably damaged, hence why it won't boot. I would run
> grub-install just to be sure.
> 
> You could also mount your old disk and the new disk, then use
>  cp -R /mnt/olddisk/* /mnt/newdisk/
> (putting in the appriopriate mount locations of course)
> 
> Ben Blount
> 

Wouldn't rsync -a be better for this, or would cp -R preserve ownership
and permissions as well?

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:06:38 -0500, John Jolet wrote:

> > dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
> will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install
> step?

It gets *everything*


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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Nick Smith]

On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 01:14 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

> There is, however, an ebuild for 0.3.1 on b.g.o--
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69396
> 
> which can 'legitimately' be put in one's overlay.
> 
> HTH,
> Holly

well since it isnt stable yet, is there anything else out there that
integrates with gnome that allows you to switch network connections on
the fly? or just something that monitors wireless connections and allows
you to choose to connect to them? something that actually asked for the
WEP key when it hit an encrypted network would be good too, but i think
im pushing my luck. thats for the info thus far.

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[gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[Ian K]

Hi there,
When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
I get:

chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
error

Any ideas?
Thanks!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Stuart Howard]

Hi people 

MANY thanks people for the advice, after some painful time I have got
my system back or at least everything seems fine so far [typing from
opera in X].

As a record for myself and or others who may ever need this I
performed the following steps

1. Beat head on wall for not thinking to buy a UPS.
2. "broken " drive would allow access to data but bios fail reported
at attempt to boot
3. installed new drive as master old as slave
4. booted via liveCD
5. Created new partitions and filesystems similar to old 
6. mounted new and old partitions 
7. cp -prf /old /new
8. chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
9. grub-install /dev/hda
10. reboot
11. cheer

Had a few recommendations for rsync -a and a few concerns that cp
would not cp .files or maintain sufficient permissios etc but I think
that cp -prf has managed to acheive the same.

thanks again 

stu




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> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:06:38 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> 
> > > dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
> > will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install
> > step?
> 
> It gets *everything*
> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: loopback device (lo, net.lo) cannot be brought up sucessfully at first try: SIOCSIFADDR: File exists/SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address ...

[Sarpy Sam]

I had the same problem.  I did an emerge sync and emerge -uDva world. 
There was a new version of baselayout from the one this morning when I
did an update so I installed it and everything works fine now.

On 9/1/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Sep 1, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > Since recently, I cannot bring up the loopback device at
> > the first attempt. Running net.lo fails like this:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.lo start
> >  * Starting lo
> >  *   Bringing up lo
> >  * 127.0.0.1/8
> > SIOCSIFADDR: File exists
> > SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
> > SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
> > SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Cannot assign requested address
> > SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested  
> > address [ !! ]
> um, why are you having to start loopback by hand?  does it fail to  
> start on boot?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Holly Bostick]

Peter Ruskin schreef:
> On Friday 02 September 2005 00:21, Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
>> Peter, why does running this command give me the following output:
>> 
>> emerge -v $(equery b /lib/modules | sed -e 's:^:>=:' ) !!! No 
>> command or unknown command given 
>> _ 
>> ___
>> 
>> cfg-update 1.7.1 : Building checksum index... (takes a few seconds)
>>  done! 
>> _ 
>> ___
>> 
>> !!! Error: -, is an invalid short action or option.
>> 
>> ??
>> 
>> I don't know enough about scripting to 'debug' it, but I do know I 
>> don't see any loose '-' that is meant to precede an option (but 
>> does not).
>> 
>> So I really don't know what the error is trying to tell me. Am I 
>> missing some essential piece of the puzzle (I certainly have both 
>> equery and sed)?
> 
> 
> That beats me Holly.  I always run that line at the end of my 
> build-kernel script.  Try running it with -p like this:
> 
> $ emerge -vp $(equery b /lib/modules | sed -e 's:^:>=:' )
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ] 
> media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
> net-fs/shfs-0.35-r1  -amd +doc 0 kB
> 
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> 

Same error, but I figured it out (my mistake, of course). It's so dumb,
I don't even want to tell you what I did (or didn't yet do, more
precisely), but I will say that the key was your explanation of when you
run this command.

Sorry for the noise, at least I've learned something --or been reminded,
yet again, that the kernel is very picky about when you access its
source, and also very knowledgeable about the state of the source when
you attempt to access it.

Two DUH!s in two days. I'm definitely overextending myself :) .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[Jason Cooper]

Ian K ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
> I get:
> 
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
> error

Does the arch of the stage tarball you installed match the arch of the 
processor?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales]

Have you untared your stage file already?
Have you mounted all the partitions?

Give us some more info so we can help you

2005/9/1, Ian K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi there,
> When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
> I get:
> 
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
> error
> 
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!!
> Ian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Bob Sanders]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:40:08 +0800
Qiangning Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob Sanders wrote:
> > enlightenment E16.  After messing with KDE, Gnome, Openbox, fluxbox,
> > flirting with XCFE and a few others, I came back to Enlightenment.
> 
> As an XFCE user currently, I'm curious about what make you guys leave
> XFCE for other lightweight WMs?
> 

The feel and I run at 1600x1024 with Eterm as my main term.  I like the way the 
menu
system works.  I like the ease of setting up my own background - especially 
without
a lot of menu crawling.  I like the seperate pager and Windows Overview of E.  
On a
laptop, E makes it real easy to have multiple desktops with apps running, easy 
to get to.

But it does come down to personal preferences.  And I've used a lot of window 
managers.
Perhaps more than most -- original microVAX/VMS win, then X (the very firstl),
GEM on AtariST, Amiga's WM, NeXt, Sun, BeOS, Win 3.1/95/98/NT/2K/XP, ripped off
the wm in Win98 and put Litestep on, used CDE (had to test it, yuk!), 4DWM 
(Irix, about the
only one I've been able to stand the icons on).

It's like editors, use enough of them, and they all feel a bit familar, but you 
end up coming
back to one or two for all your daily activity because of the feel.  And I'm no 
longer any
good at any editor - used too many in the past, way too many.  Email programs 
as well,
I miss RSTS/E email.  That was one sweet program.  But it too got too "safe" 
when they
productized it.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Holly Bostick]

Bob Sanders schreef:
> But it does come down to personal preferences.  And I've used a lot of window 
> managers.
>
> ripped off
> the wm in Win98 and put Litestep on

Hey, finally, another Litestep expat! I was beginning to think I was the
only one :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?

[Bob Sanders]

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:13:43 -0400 (EDT)
"Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems.  I am 
> running 2.6.11-r6 with no problems on a system with an Adaptec 39160 card. 
> I tried to go to 2.6.12-r6 and r9 but kept getting kernel panics on boot. 
> I have another system I'm installing Gentoo on that has an Adaptec 2940uw 
> on and since I was using 2005.0 it had 2.6.12 on it and would not boot.  I 
> found that on both systems if I build the aic7xxx as a module I can get 
> further in the boot process.  I also tried 2005.1 but that is a disaster 
> on both systems.  I tell it to noload=aic7xxx and it loads it anyway which 
> results in system not running.
> 

I run a couple of 32-bit systems at work with onboard Adaptec  79xx controllers.
Both had earlier 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 kernels and both now have 2.6.12-r9 kernels.
No problems on either.  One runs a 4 disk software raid 5 setup (local Gentoo 
mirror).

Both boot off the SCSI controller.

fwiw- I never use "make oldconfig"  Somewhere in the 2.6.x series I discovered 
that if
I mount /boot, then run "make config", it would pick up my running config.  
Perhaps it
was the System.map setting in /boot.

Regardless, I just do - 
make menuconfig
make
make modules_install
make install
vim /boot/grub/grub.conf

> Is it just me .
>

Sounds like something else in your config isn't set up properly. 

Bob 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge of glibc-2.3.5-r1 fails

[Bob Sanders]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:19:39 -0400
Lincoln Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I consistently get an ACCESS DENIGHED error will trying to emerge glibc. 
> Does anyone else get this:
> 

I haven't seen the problem.  A few things to look at may be -

- running out of diskspace.
- ownership of /build is not root or user running portage.
- if user/builder is other than root, then they need to be in the disk 
group.
- a pre-emptive clean of /build/tmp is needed - cd /build/tmp then rm 
-rf the area.
Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Bob Sanders]

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 00:05:48 +
Stuart Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> As a record for myself and or others who may ever need this I
> performed the following steps
> 
> 1. Beat head on wall for not thinking to buy a UPS.

Most UPSs below about US$400 are junk.  You'd be served just as well with
a decent surge suppressor power strip.  Don't waste your money on a UPS.

Bob
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[gentoo-user] gentoo extras cd

[Justin Kelly]

Hi All,

Ive been using Gentoo PPC for a while, and as a dial-up user find to
difficult to download all the packages i want(just takes to long), is
there anything like the Packages CD but more :)

Does anyone know if a 3rd party/or gentoo provides such a thing? I
don't mind paying for such a CD/DVD.

ie. So i can just emerge -K inkscape etc..., all the useful desktop
type packages that aren't included in the packages CD.

Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is HIGHPTE option in kernel?

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 20:32 +0200, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> > [quote]
> > Allocate 3rd-level pagetables from highmem (HIGHPTE)
> > 
> > The VM uses one page table entry for each page of physical memory.
> > For systems with a lot of RAM, this can be wasteful of precious
> > low memory. Setting this option will put user-space page table
> > entries in high memory.
> > [/quote]
> > 
> > I have 1.5Gb of RAM, will this be useful for me?
> > 
> Not sure but:
> 3rd-level pagetables are for systems with a *lot* of memory that don't
> want to waste space in the lowest gig of mem (to keep addresses of high
> mem.).
> 
> So basically no advantage with 1.5 gig

Ah.. I see. Thanks.

(as it turns out, seems like my make oldconfig wasn't really using the
old config. I had many iterations of my kernel being compiled with diff
stuffs. Finally found that the 4GB option wasn't turned 'on')

/me wonders when I will have >4GB of ram and load everything into RAM
(and XFS filesystems). Can you say Super TUX? hehe..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Greg Shikhman]

I have tried out KDE and I am now using GNOME. It seems like GNOME has more of a skinning functionality although it does look a lot more bland initially. 
 
++ OT:
 
In KDE, if I emerged an app, it would appear in the applications menu. In GNOME, I have to add them in manually. Is there any configuration setting to change that? 
On 9/1/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Thanks.  I'll look into this and try it.

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:


On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:13:43 -0400 (EDT)
"Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems.  I am
results in system not running.



I run a couple of 32-bit systems at work with onboard Adaptec  79xx controllers.
Both had earlier 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 kernels and both now have 2.6.12-r9 kernels.
No problems on either.  One runs a 4 disk software raid 5 setup (local Gentoo 
mirror).

Both boot off the SCSI controller.

fwiw- I never use "make oldconfig"  Somewhere in the 2.6.x series I discovered 
that if
I mount /boot, then run "make config", it would pick up my running config.  
Perhaps it
was the System.map setting in /boot.

Regardless, I just do -
make menuconfig
make
make modules_install
make install
vim /boot/grub/grub.conf


Is it just me .



Sounds like something else in your config isn't set up properly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 20:05 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 01:14 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69396
> > 

> well since it isnt stable yet, is there anything else out there that
> integrates with gnome that allows you to switch network connections on
> the fly? or just something that monitors wireless connections and allows
> you to choose to connect to them? something that actually asked for the
> WEP key when it hit an encrypted network would be good too, but i think
> im pushing my luck. thats for the info thus far.

Network Manager is a program that integrates between DBUS/HAL and the
system to create a sort of a 'connection Manager" for Linux. It's
largely gnome based and IIRC, it's hacked by Robert Love
http://www.rlove.org/ and should be a part of Project Utopia (The mantra
of which is "It Just Works")

In the gentoo world, we also have a Project Utopia, namely Project
Gentopia. Project Gentopia is the brainchild of Gentoo Doug Goldstein.
He's been hosting a portage overlay on his site
https://gentopia.gentooexperimental.org/svn/overlay in which there are
more than one gentoo dev working on the ebuilds.

You can do a sync with it through subversion. There are instructions on
the site.

I am a (heavy?) user of his portage tree which makes things "just works"
on my laptop. (though I have to admit that I can't make NetworkManager
work as yet, most likely it's me not wanting to break dhcpcd and emerge
dhcdbd (http://people.redhat.com/~jvdias/dhcdbd - link broken for some
reason but the download is at
http://people.redhat.com/~jvdias/dhcdbd/dhcdbd-1.6.tar.gz ) which is :

[quote]
DHCP D-BUS daemon (dhcdbd) controls dhclient sessions with D-BUS, stores
and presents DHCP options.
[/quote]

Each time I start NetworkManager, I noticed that it will disconnect all
my sessions and start it's own dhcpclient. I've not had time to test it
out fully.

Perhaps one day, I will feel up to it to write a whole article about
Project Utopia/Gentopia for the MyOSS Magazine
(http://mag.my-opensource.org)

ps : Yeah.. the last bit was a plug. Edition 5 is up if anyone's
interested. And BTW, we need contributors.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[John Jolet]

I get that when I boot from a 32-bit boot disk and try to chroot into a 64-bit 
environmentor vice versa
On Thursday 01 September 2005 19:06, Ian K wrote:
> Hi there,
> When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
> I get:
>
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
> error
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!!
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[gentoo-user] AMD64/Gnome - I have detected a panel already running, and will now exit

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   I've been running Gnome for awhile on all my machines. In setting
up my new AMD64 it was a natural choice for me. However I am getting a
strange message:

1) When I first log in after a boot I get a message "I have detected a
panel already running, and will now exit". I answer OK 1 time and it
stops.

2) If I log out and back in I get the same message but I have to
answer OK 11 times to get the message to go away.

3) If I run the Gnome Failsafe session I do not get the message at all.

   While this is going on I've looked and do not see a gnome-panel
process running.

   None of this happens on any of my other machines but they are all
32 bit, either Intel P4 or Athlon XP.

   I have tried emerging other versions of gnome-panel and gnome-light
with no effect. I have searched the forums but don't see any
solutions. I Do see a few others that have more or less the same
problem.

   Any ideas where I might look for more info before reporting a bug?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pixie does not run.

[Adrian]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:51:23 -0400
"Dave Nebinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words:

> > Hi Dave --  thanks for the response.  I'm not sure I understand it
> > all, but I understand enough to get me started and do some testing. 
> > One question however, when you say to build pixie manually, what do
> > you mean by building it manually?  Is that different from
> > 
> > emerge pixie
> 
> Yeah.  Basically you do the following:
> 
> 1. get the tarball either from the home site or /usr/portage/distfiles
> to your home directory.  Usually if I'm going to do a manual build I
> grab the latest stable distribution from the home site.
> 2. extract the tarball then cd into the directory.
> 3. Run the configure script, but you have two options: a) use
> "./configure --prefix=/usr" to replace the pixie that portage emerged
> or b) use "./configure --prefix=/usr/local" to get a clean local copy.
> 4. Build using the make command.
> 5. At this point you can test in the local directory to see if it
> works. 6. If you're happy with the build, su then "make install".


Oh, duh...  I have done an
./configure
make
make install
since I started using Gentoo.  How soon we forget.  Actually it was just
a terminology problem of me not grasping what you said.  If I replace
the pixie emerged by portage does that mess up anything as far as
portage is concerned?  

I expect there is something out there about my question.  I'll have to
go looking when I have time.  I'll probably try your suggestions this
weekend.  Much too busy at the moment to play with this right now.  

I have one more dumb question.  What man page do I read to understand
how to use LDFLAGS?  I was thinking this was a variable in make.conf
however I just read the man page for make.conf and I see that it is not
documented there.  Also looked around at gentoo.org documentation, but
didn't find anything that helps yet.

Again, thank you very much for your time and assistance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[Mark Shields]

My guess this is normal, since you need either: amd64 install disk or
ia64 install disk:  http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xmlOn 9/1/05, John Jolet <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I get that when I boot from a 32-bit boot disk and try to chroot into a 64-bit
environmentor vice versaOn Thursday 01 September 2005 19:06, Ian K wrote:> Hi there,> When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,> I get:>> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

[Mark Shields]

They should be adding automatically, Greg.  Mine does.On 9/1/05, Greg Shikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have tried out KDE and I am now using GNOME. It seems like GNOME
has more of a skinning functionality although it does look a lot more
bland initially. 
 
++ OT:
 
In KDE, if I emerged an app, it would appear in the applications
menu. In GNOME, I have to add them in manually. Is there any
configuration setting to change that? 
On 9/1/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bob Sanders schreef:> But it does come down to personal preferences.  And I've used a lot of window managers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo extras cd

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:51:13 +1000
Justin Kelly wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Ive been using Gentoo PPC for a while, and as a dial-up user find to
> difficult to download all the packages i want(just takes to long), is
> there anything like the Packages CD but more :)
> 
> Does anyone know if a 3rd party/or gentoo provides such a thing? I
> don't mind paying for such a CD/DVD.
> 
> ie. So i can just emerge -K inkscape etc..., all the useful desktop
> type packages that aren't included in the packages CD.
> 
> Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Justin Kelly

you are mixing two issues here - do you want to download sources faster
and still compile them yourself, or just get binary packages?



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Re: [gentoo-user] loopback device (lo, net.lo) cannot be brought up sucessfully at first try: SIOCSIFADDR: File exists/SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address ...

[Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)]

Alexander Skwar, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks:
> Hello!
> 
> Since recently, I cannot bring up the loopback device at
> the first attempt. Running net.lo fails like this:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/104415

It's fixed now. sync and update baselayout.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Philip Webb]

050901 Holly Bostick wrote:
> Philip Webb schreef:
>> I've installed kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 & find Gkrellm doesn't show
>> sensors. There's no problem with 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 . The same modules
>> are being installed & removed at each (re)boot.
>> There is a recent thread on the forum which reported that removing
>> ACPI from the kernel config options solved the problem, but I've just
>> done that & it made no difference.
>> Has anyone else encountered this problem or have any advice ?
> That seems odd ...

(big smile) only because you didn't read my query carefully enough ...

> I just *started* using lm_sensors for the first time
> with 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 (no previous experience, thus)
> and once I got the hang of it, it worked fine.

I'm not using Lm_sensors:
I'm using Gkrellm2, which has its own internal sensors.
Yes, Gkrellm1 used to rely on Lm_sensors, but that's obsolete.

> If lm_sensors the package compiles against the kernel,
> as I would imagine it must,
> it would need to be re-emerged when you upgraded the kernel.

One of the tests I've thought of to probe what's going on
is to emerge Lm_sensors & see if I can get readings via CLI ,
which would show whether the problem is in Gkrellm2
or somewhere in the kernel/sensor interface.

I suspect it's a bug in Gkrellm2 , so bug searches may also help.
However, it could be the effect of some new kernel config option.

But again -- and may thread-hijackers roast in hell -- ,
has anyone else had this problem using Kernel 2.6.10/11/12 + Gkrellm2 ?

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[gentoo-user] No auto-add to programs list in GNOME after emerges

[Greg Shikhman]

Hi,
 
After installing gentoo and gnome on my current system, I don't get programs added to my program files after emerging them (ex: firefox-bin does not enter the menu after emerging it, I have to do it manually). Could anyone list any reasons why this could happen?

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Holly Bostick]

Philip Webb schreef:
> 
>> Philip Webb schreef:
>> 
>>> I've installed kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 & find Gkrellm doesn't
>>> show sensors. There's no problem with 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 . The same
>>> modules are being installed & removed at each (re)boot. There is
>>> a recent thread on the forum which reported that removing ACPI
>>> from the kernel config options solved the problem, but I've just 
>>> done that & it made no difference. Has anyone else encountered
>>> this problem or have any advice ?
>> 
> One of the tests I've thought of to probe what's going on is to
> emerge Lm_sensors & see if I can get readings via CLI , which would
> show whether the problem is in Gkrellm2 or somewhere in the
> kernel/sensor interface.
> 
> I suspect it's a bug in Gkrellm2 , so bug searches may also help. 
> However, it could be the effect of some new kernel config option.
> 
> But again -- and may thread-hijackers roast in hell -- , has anyone
> else had this problem using Kernel 2.6.10/11/12 + Gkrellm2 ?
> 

My answer is still 'no problems here'; I am also using GKrellm2, and
while I didn't know
it had its own sensors, they work fine ( temperature, fan, thermal, hdd,
and voltage. I had turned them off because I replaced them with conky,
but turning them back on, there they are.

This is with 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 and gkrellm-2.2.7; I've just compiled
2.6.12-gentoo-r10, if the situation changes, I'll let you know :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

[John Jolet]

On Thursday 01 September 2005 21:52, Mark Shields wrote:
> My guess this is normal, since you need either: amd64 install disk or ia64
> install disk: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
>
yes, it is...but I was saying that is the message I get when, say I boot my 
x86_64-built box with the rescue cd for partimage purposes and try to chroot 
in there.  He seems to have done something similar.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12-r9 : sensors don't work

[Philip Webb]

050902 Holly Bostick wrote:
> Philip Webb schreef:
>> I've installed kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 & Gkrellm doesn't show sensors.
>> There's no problem with 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 .
> I am also using GKrellm2, and while I didn't know it had its own sensors,
> they work fine : temperature, fan, thermal, hdd, and voltage.
> This is with 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 and gkrellm-2.2.7;
> I've just compiled 2.6.12-gentoo-r10,
> if the situation changes, I'll let you know :).

Thanx for your very prompt reply: your hours are as odd as mine (grin)!

I will investigate later tonight, after reading the day's news horrors,
& report whatever I manage to find.  Others have had the problem (forum).

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64/Gnome - I have detected a panel already running, and will now exit

[Michael Crute]

On 9/1/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 When I first log in after a boot I get a message "I have detected apanel already running, and will now exit". I answer OK 1 time and itstops.I
had this too after I botched a VNC install. I solved it by purging /tmp
and all the config files in my home directory. There is probably a
better way but it was a new install and I didn't have my files on it
anyhow. So try creating a new user with a new home directory and see if
that fixes things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which drivers to use for audio and video?

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:57:09PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
> Hi Walter,
>I'm setting up the same thing, although I used the 64-bit Gentoo
> install CD. Why are you using 32-bit?

  I did some RTFM, and it appears that emerging 32-bit apps requires a
bit of a hassle.  You basically have to install a 32-bit chroot
environment, which you drop into to do the 32-bit emerges.  What apps
would you want to emerge 32-bit, you ask?  Here's a partial list, off
the top of my head, of what you lose if you go 64-bit-only...
  - OpenOffice does not build in 64-bit mode.
  - 32-bit plugins for your web-browser of choice
  - kiss "internet TV" goodbye, because...
- RealPlayer is distributed as a 32-bit app
- mplayer, itself, will compile in 64-bit mode.  However, the
  "win32codecs" don't exist in a 64-bit equivalent.

  The "final straw" for me was that LILO is masked out for 64 bits, and
GRUB is the only available bootloader.  GRUB seems to have been
afflicted by Microsoft-featureitis disease.  It's got a whole lot of
additional complexity, which allows it to display an image of Clippy (or
Tux) at bootup.  Come-on guys; people need a *BOOTLOADER*, not a
singing/dancing penguin or paperclip, at bootup.

  What advantages does 64-bit mode offer?  I don't have terabytes of RAM
so that ability isn't required.  64-bit mode is allegedly faster by
default on other distros.  This is probably true.  The underlying reason
for that is that in 64-bit mode, the gcc compiler defaults to include
the flags "-mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse" for the AMD64
cpu, which it doesn't do for 32-bit mode on the same chip.  On a binary
distro, you're stuck with what you're given.  With Gentoo, we "Gentoo
ricers" can set those flags in /etc/make.conf and get their benefit.  So
that advantage for 64-bit mode disappears in Gentoo.

>As for the ATI driver I set it up quickly today using the radeon
> driver from xorg-x11.

  After reading your message, I tried Radeon, and it seems to work.  I
manually entered the frequencies for my monitor, and 1600 X 1200 works
fine.  Now I just need to get the sound chip working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which drivers to use for audio and video?

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/1/05, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >As for the ATI driver I set it up quickly today using the radeon
> > driver from xorg-x11.
> 
>   After reading your message, I tried Radeon, and it seems to work.  I
> manually entered the frequencies for my monitor, and 1600 X 1200 works
> fine.  Now I just need to get the sound chip working.
> 

I set up sound today. I got both the on-board sound chip as well as
the HDSP 9652 working, although very little testing.

So far everything has worked nicely. Only a couple of small issues:

1) A false Gnome message every time I log in.
2) The 'default' sound card setting, since I'm using two devices.

Tomorro I hope to try the ATI proprietary driver to see if I can get 3D working.

There are a number of strange things I've run into. For instance, on
the mplayer emerge:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv mplayer

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7-r1  (-3dfx) (-3dnow)
(-3dnowext) +X -aac -aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bl
-cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb
(-divx4linux) -doc -dts -dv -dvb +dvd +dvdread -edl +encode +esd
-fbcon -ggi +gif +gtk +i8x0 +ipv6 +jack -joystick +jpeg -libcaca +lirc
-live -lzo +mad* -matroska -matrox (-mmx) (-mmxext) +mythtv -nas +nls
-nvidia +opengl -oss +png +real -rtc -samba +sdl (-sse) (-sse2)
(-svga) -tga -theora -truetype +v4l +v4l2 +vorbis* (-win32codecs)
-xanim -xinerama -xmms +xv +xvid -xvmc 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

Note that 3dnow and mmx are disabled even though I have them enabled
in my make.conf file:

USE="radeon mmx mmxext sse sse2 3dnow 3dnowext gnome kde -arts ladspa
nptl nptlonly ladcca audiofile gimp gimpprint ppds usb alsa cdr dvd
dvdr dvdread caps jack jack-tmpfs fluidsynth tcltk sndfile v4l v4l2
mysql flac xscreensaver -samba i8x0 mythtv apache2 lirc mjpeg xvid
real"


I need to understand why that happens. /proc/cpuinfo says they should work:

lightning ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 47
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping: 0
cpu MHz : 1809.280
cache size  : 512 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext
fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm
bogomips: 3588.09
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

lightning ~ #

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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Frank Schafer]

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 18:06 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:04, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:36:59 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:
> > > My question :-
> > >
> > > I need to "copy" all from hdb to hda what would be the sugested route?
> >
> > If both drives are the same size
> >
> > dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=4096
> will that get the mbr, or does he still need to do the grub-install step?
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It will get everything (making a copy of the physical disk surface). Due
to the fact that your machine didn't boot but data is available, I'd
think your old HDD isn't corrupted but the partition for /boot or the
MBR itself.

Try to setup grub for your old HDD too. Maybe you'll have a HDD more
now. ;)

Just a thought
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