Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue

2005-08-08 Thread Arek Murzyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue


> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:58:11 +0200
> "Arek Murzyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've done something recently on my gentoo and I don't remember what but
till
> > that moment I cannot run Eterm or xterm when logged as user. When logged
as
> > root everything is working. This issue is known on the web but solutions
> > does not satisfy me Eterm.
> > There are messages:
> > "Can't open pseudo-tty --No such file or directory"
> > "Unable to run sub-command"
> > Then Eterm window raises and there is only "Hit any key to exit"
> > I checked:
> > - /dev/pty is compiled in kernel
> > - /dev/pty directory exists and all files within
> > - symbolic links in /dev exists too
> > - changed rights to all these files to rwxrwxrwx - nothing helped
> > 2.6.12r6, 2005.0
> > What can I do more? Changin debugging level in Eterm gives nothing.
> >
>
> Did you use Unix98 PTY or Legacy (BSD) Pty?
> Also, are you using udev?
> And you have Virtual terminal?
>
> fwiw - I haven't seen it here with Unix98 ptys, udev, and 2.6.12-r4.

I use udev and Legacy(BSD) with 2.6.12-r6. How to check if I use virtual
terminal?
How to switch to Unix98 - I can't find this option in menuconfig.
Very strange is that root can open eterm without problems, any user (even
with additional group 'root') can't.
I see some messages in logs about pam authentication. Could it be related to
that?

Thanks,

Arek




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[gentoo-user] Acer TM2313 NIC problems

2005-08-08 Thread Frank Schafer
Hi,

I've bought a new Acer TravelMate 2313. I've tried to install this
weekend.
Everything seemed to go fine but I don't have a network connection.

The NIC is a SiS 900 PCI fast ethernet adapter. Looking at ``dmesg''
there everything looks O.K. I see the driver loading, finding the card
and bringing the link up.

The lights on the NIC are both (continous) lighting. If I do an
``ifconfig eth0 down'' followed by an ``ifconfig eth0 up`` the lights
turn both off for about one second and then both on again.

I see the link coming up in the log and in dmesg.

Trying to ping some address I get "network unreachable". The network
connection itself works. This is tested with another (Acer) notebook.

Due to the fact that there are a couple of messages about disconnecting
and connecting PCI devices in the log I'm wondering about a hardware
problem.

Well this all don't happen with Gentoo. Acer (fortunately) has a "Linpus
Linux" installed on delivery. So I have a means to do some recovery.

I've tried this of course with the Gentoo install CD too. Further on
I've tried Knoppix, Mandrake, SuSe, Ubuntu and Fedora.

I know I've seen some messages about Acer notebooks on this list.
Unfortunately I cannot search the archives without a network connection.
My chief tolerates if I'm writing a mail during working time. I'm afraid
he won't tolerate me spending hours searching something private on the
WEB.

If someone knows about issues with the sis900.c module please let me
know.

Thanks in advance
Frank

PS: ... and yes, I did RTFM ``menuconfig'' points to. ;)

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[gentoo-user] How do I emerge Evolution+eds with debug information?

2005-08-08 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

Evolution is crashing on me on start with the following output:

## snip ##
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ evolution
es menu class init
adding hook target 'source'

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: Invalid root:
'/home/colding/.evolution/mail/local/Drafts.ibex.index'

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: version: TEXT.000 (TEXT.000)

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: block size: 1024 (1024) OK

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: free: 0 (0 add size < 1024) OK

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: last: 6144 (6144 and size: 1024) BAD

(evolution:8059): camel-WARNING **: flags: unSYNC
## snip ##

Does anyone have an idea on how I can get evo happy and maybe even
read mail again?

I can not get any sensible debug information from bug-buddy. So how do
I re-emerge evo and eds with debug symbols?


Thanks,
  jules

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Tero Grundström
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Fernando Meira wrote:


Hi Tero,
what I meant with "redo my partitions" was in the way that I will expand 
my gentoo partition (or try to).

I have:
# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda4 4.6G 3.8G 803M 83% /
^^ *might* be enough for a minimal system, but not for your compiles or 
distfiles.



udev 252M 808K 252M 1% /dev
^^ Why a separate partition for /dev? This is complete waste. Especially 
with that size.



/dev/hda5 23G 20G 3.3G 86% /mnt/share
^^ You'll *never* need that much space in here. Do not have this on a 
separate partition. Maybe you could make this partition your /home ?



/dev/hda1 9.8G 8.0G 1.8G 82% /mnt/windows

^^ Complete waste ;)


none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm

Options: 
- erase hda1 (win$) and merge with with hda4.
- somehow rearrange hda5 (which is FAT) and split it 2, and merge a part 
to hda4.


It is up to you how to rearrange them but I suggest that you have only 
these partitions for Gentoo:


/boot
/
/home (optional but recommended)
(+swap)



what are the advantages of pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR and DISTDIR to other 
partitions?


The idea is, ofcourse, to give your compiles and distfiles more room. 
This in turn would free up space for your system.




thanks for the localepurge tip:
- Total disk space freed by localepurge: 48448K (not bad ;)


Yeah, it's great. BTW, check out the 'userlocales' USE flag for glibc too. 
It will speed up the compilation and save some space.


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[gentoo-user] 16 colours xpm

2005-08-08 Thread Uwe Thiem
Anybody in the know how to generate an xpm image with 16 colours and 1 
character per pixel? I mean other than using vi. ;-) Alternatively, 
converting an image to that format would do for me.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:04:32 -0300, Francisco J. A. Ares wrote:

> Not a script, but I have some machines with /usr/portage NFS'd to a
> server (I'm thinking about doing the same with /var/tmp/portage/ also,
> but don't know how to lock it to avoid colisions).

Putting PORTAGE_TMPDIR on an NFS partition would slow merging down
horribly.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
Also makes long builds like OO and xorg fail for random network issues
as well seeming to take forever.  My success rate for OO is under 50% of
attempts when I was using NFS for the tmpdir.  Did work fine for smaller
builds tho.

BillK


On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:04:32 -0300, Francisco J. A. Ares wrote:
> 
> > Not a script, but I have some machines with /usr/portage NFS'd to a
> > server (I'm thinking about doing the same with /var/tmp/portage/ also,
> > but don't know how to lock it to avoid colisions).
> 
> Putting PORTAGE_TMPDIR on an NFS partition would slow merging down
> horribly.
> 
> 

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on P7010: very quiet sound

2005-08-08 Thread Stefan Onken
Hello,

I installed last week on my Fijutsu Siemens P7010 Notebook Gentoo. The
sound is working fine after manuelly amending the modules for ALSA, but
its very very quiet. Even with alsamixer and kdemixer set to the top I
hardly hear anything. Any idea how to solve this ?

And a another question: Because the notebook doesn't have any volume
adjuster: is there any chance to get the [FN] Keys to work ?

Thanks
Stonki


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on P7010: very quiet sound

2005-08-08 Thread Stefan Onken
Hi,

> I installed last week on my Fijutsu Siemens P7010 Notebook Gentoo. The
> sound is working fine after manuelly amending the modules for ALSA, but
> its very very quiet. Even with alsamixer and kdemixer set to the top I
> hardly hear anything. Any idea how to solve this ?

ignore me... ;:)


1) I found a setting in the bios
2) I used the "PCM" mixer in KDE and now its fine.

cu
stonki


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rebuilding with -e -- problem with output

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Kintzios

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Lillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 August 2005 21:57
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rebuilding with -e -- problem 
> with output
> 
> 
> Zac Medico wrote:
> > Raymond Lillard wrote:
> >> Mark Shields wrote:
> >>> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough (I apologize, I was only waking up
> >>> then).  I changed my make.conf file yesterday and 
> starting recompiling
> >>> my entire system with emerge -ve world &.  I used the & 
> because I was
> >>> at work and didn't want the recompile process stopping if my ssh
> >>> session was terminated unexpectedly.  It's still 
> compiling today as I
> >>> see pktstat is running, but I want to be able to see the 
> output.  Is
> >>> there a way to recapture the output to screen or to a file?
> >>
> >> Not that I know of now.
> >>
> >> If asked in advance of starting the "emerge", I would have
> >> advised you to use "nohup".
> > 
> > I'm not aware of a way to reconnect with stderr, stdin, and 
> stdout but I 
> > know that those file descriptors still exist in /proc/${PID}/fd.
> > 
> > Normally, in order to accomplish what you want, I would use 
> > app-misc/screen.  Screen is a very nice solution because you can 
> > reattach to an interactive terminal whenever you want.
> 
> Good idea.
> 
> > Alternatively, you can redirect the emerge output to a log file:
> > 
> > emerge foo > /var/log/emerge-foo.log 2>&1 &
> 
> All true, but the point of using "nohup" is that it disassociates
> the nohup'd process from the parent shell/terminal session.  This
> allows one to start a long running task and log out without ending
> it.  Pushing a task into the background followed by a logout will
> end said background task.
> 
> Progress may be monitored by logging in at some later point in
> time and/or from some other location.  "tail -f" works well for
> this.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Ray

In addition to the above there's also PORTAGE_LOG="/var/log/portage"
which can be set in the /etc/make.conf to capture the emerge proceedings
by tee-ing into the relevant file in /var/log/portage.  Again, using
tail -f in this file(s) will show you what's happening.  Setting up
logrotate or a cron jobby will help to keep the /var/log/portage
directory under control before it bloats itself to destruction. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] md5sum error

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:17:25 +0800, glumtail wrote:

>   stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz2: FAILED
>   md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match
> 
> install-x86-universal-2005.0.iso was downloaded via BitTorrent from
> gentoo.org
> 
> Any suggestion? Thanks!

Download it again. md5sum is telling you it is corrupt.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:45:36 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundstr_m wrote:

> > udev 252M 808K 252M 1% /dev
> ^^ Why a separate partition for /dev? This is complete waste.
> Especially with that size.

udev is a virtual filesystem, it's using 808K of memory, not 252M of disk
space. udev appears to allocate half the available RAM as the maximum size
for /dev.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rebuilding with -e -- problem with output

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Kintzios

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 08 August 2005 10:01
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rebuilding with -e -- problem 
> with output
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Raymond Lillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 06 August 2005 21:57
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rebuilding with -e -- problem 
> > with output
> > 
> > 
> > Zac Medico wrote:
> > > Raymond Lillard wrote:
> > >> Mark Shields wrote:
> > >>> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough (I apologize, I was only waking up
> > >>> then).  I changed my make.conf file yesterday and 
> > starting recompiling
> > >>> my entire system with emerge -ve world &.  I used the & 
> > because I was
> > >>> at work and didn't want the recompile process stopping if my ssh
> > >>> session was terminated unexpectedly.  It's still 
> > compiling today as I
> > >>> see pktstat is running, but I want to be able to see the 
> > output.  Is
> > >>> there a way to recapture the output to screen or to a file?
> > >>
> > >> Not that I know of now.
> > >>
> > >> If asked in advance of starting the "emerge", I would have
> > >> advised you to use "nohup".
> > > 
> > > I'm not aware of a way to reconnect with stderr, stdin, and 
> > stdout but I 
> > > know that those file descriptors still exist in /proc/${PID}/fd.
> > > 
> > > Normally, in order to accomplish what you want, I would use 
> > > app-misc/screen.  Screen is a very nice solution because you can 
> > > reattach to an interactive terminal whenever you want.
> > 
> > Good idea.
> > 
> > > Alternatively, you can redirect the emerge output to a log file:
> > > 
> > > emerge foo > /var/log/emerge-foo.log 2>&1 &
> > 
> > All true, but the point of using "nohup" is that it disassociates
> > the nohup'd process from the parent shell/terminal session.  This
> > allows one to start a long running task and log out without ending
> > it.  Pushing a task into the background followed by a logout will
> > end said background task.
> > 
> > Progress may be monitored by logging in at some later point in
> > time and/or from some other location.  "tail -f" works well for
> > this.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Ray
> 
> In addition to the above there's also PORTAGE_LOG="/var/log/portage"
> which can be set in the /etc/make.conf to capture the emerge 
> proceedings
> by tee-ing into the relevant file in /var/log/portage.  Again, using
> tail -f in this file(s) will show you what's happening.  Setting up
> logrotate or a cron jobby will help to keep the /var/log/portage
> directory under control before it bloats itself to destruction. ;)

EDIT:  Oops, I meant PORT_LOGDIR.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I emerge Evolution+eds with debug information?

2005-08-08 Thread Edward Catmur
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:15 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
> I can not get any sensible debug information from bug-buddy. So how do
> I re-emerge evo and eds with debug symbols?
> 

Try USE=debug CFLAGS=-g emerge -1 evolution evolution-data-server.

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RE: [gentoo-user] NE module, modprobe, etc.

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Kintzios

> -Original Message-
> From: W.Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 08 August 2005 03:42
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NE module, modprobe, etc.
> 
> 
> Experience across a number of cards on a number of machines (both
> running 2.4 and early 2.6 kernels) says otherwise - and its 
> not working
> so its worth a try!  In fact, I cant remember it ever working without
> the irq option, even if the card uses "auto".  This brings up another
> memory - some cards refuse to work under auto, or plugnplay setting
> (planet I think in my case), I had to force a fixed IRQ with a jumper
> (nominally the same as the auto seemed to be).

Whenever I boot a LiveCD (Gentoo, Knoppix, etc.) I have to kick start
mine by:
===
modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=3
===
If you have M$Windoze check which irq the card uses and adjust
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Tero Grundström
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:45:36 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundstr_m wrote:


udev 252M 808K 252M 1% /dev

^^ Why a separate partition for /dev? This is complete waste.
Especially with that size.


udev is a virtual filesystem, it's using 808K of memory, not 252M of disk
space. udev appears to allocate half the available RAM as the maximum size
for /dev.


Your right. It's correct. Maybe I got distracted because of the 23Gb 
/mnt/share partition and spoke too early...


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RE: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Kintzios

> -Original Message-
> From: Tero Grundstrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 08 August 2005 08:46
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Fernando Meira wrote:
> 
> It is up to you how to rearrange them but I suggest that you 
> have only 
> these partitions for Gentoo:
> 
> /boot
> /
> /home (optional but recommended)
> (+swap)

You could have a separate /usr or /usr/portage partition so that when/if
it runs out of space, your system continues to run despite the emerge
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[gentoo-user] Arts problem

2005-08-08 Thread Marc Schlienger
Hi,

I'm running Gentoo 2005.0 with gentoo-sources (2.6.12) on an AMD Athlon 64. 
I'am using alsa-driver. Sound is working with mplayer and with xmms even 
using the arts plugin. But it is not working in kde. 

Why ?

Regards Marc


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I emerge Evolution+eds with debug information?

2005-08-08 Thread Jules Colding
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:41 +0100, Edward Catmur wrote:
> USE=debug CFLAGS=-g emerge -1 evolution evolution-data-server

That was easy.

Thanks,
  jules

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RE: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Tero Grundström
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:





-Original Message-
From: Tero Grundstrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 August 2005 08:46
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage


On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Fernando Meira wrote:

It is up to you how to rearrange them but I suggest that you
have only
these partitions for Gentoo:

/boot
/
/home (optional but recommended)
(+swap)


You could have a separate /usr or /usr/portage partition so that when/if
it runs out of space, your system continues to run despite the emerge
coming to a halt.


I don't don't know if this is very practical, atleast without a volume 
manager.


Besides, isn't this taken care of by the filesystem already? I know that 
ext2/3 preserve a persentage of the partition size for root especially for 
these cases.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 16 colours xpm

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
Uwe Thiem wrote:
Anybody in the know how to generate an xpm image with 16 colours and 1 
character per pixel? I mean other than using vi. ;-) Alternatively, 
converting an image to that format would do for me.


imagemagick is your friend :-)

# emerge -avt imagemagick

The following isn't tested, read the man page if it doesn't work...

$ convert -size 800x600 -colors 16 -depth 8 image.png image.xpm

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Sean Reiser
Fernando Meira wrote:


Hi Tero,
what I meant with "redo my partitions" was in the way that I will 
expand my gentoo partition (or try to).

I have:
# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda4 4.6G  3.8G  803M  83% /
udev  252M  808K  252M   1% /dev
/dev/hda5  23G   20G  3.3G  86% /mnt/share
/dev/hda1 9.8G  8.0G  1.8G  82% /mnt/windows
none  252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm

Options:
 - erase hda1 (win$) and merge with with hda4.
 - somehow rearrange hda5 (which is FAT) and split it 2, and merge a 
part to hda4.


The question is...can you live without the windows partition?  if you 
don't need it I would look at this:


1) Merge hda1 and hda4.  Assuming this is desktop box that should be 
plenty of space for the system and applications
2) Create a /boot partition (assuming you don't currently have one on 
your box that wasn't mounted when you did the df).  This way if your 
system crashes at least /boot will not be corrupted.
3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of choice.  Mount 
it as /home.
4) Consider creating a swap partition.  Even if you have plenty of RAM, 
in my experience Linux just runs better with a swap partition mounted. 

I would strongly suggest that you do a full backup before doing any of 
this.  I know there are partition resizing and reformatting utilities 
but they I wouldn't trust them without a backup. 


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[gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread gentoo
Hello,

This is OT, but I'm kind of worried and google hasn't been my friend...

* I'm doing backups of my server everynight and had the following errors in 
the mail from the cron output this morning. repeated a dozen of times.

bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
bzip2: No space left on device
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
/local/sbin/mk-rs-backups.sh: line 26: 22516 Broken pipe $TAR cjf 
$DSTDIR/site-$site.tar.gz $name

bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
bzip2: No space left on device
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

* checking my logs I found the following error repeating ~6000 times.

Aug  8 03:17:00 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)): ext3_new_block: 
block(14366126) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es == c2510400
[...]
Aug  8 08:46:52 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)): ext3_new_block: 
block(14372149) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es == c2510400

"df" is telling that my disk is only half full: ~28Gb free.
"df -i" is reporting only ~2% inodes used.

"tune2ds -l" follows

So... is my disk broken? my fs corrupted? While is ext3 trying to allocate a 
block with a higher count than the max?

Any help welcomed, thanks in advance.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# /sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/hda2
tune2fs 1.26 (3-Feb-2002)
Filesystem volume name:   /
Last mounted on:  
Filesystem UUID:  
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal filetype needs_recovery sparse_super
Filesystem state: clean with errors
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  7192576
Block count:  14366126
Reserved block count: 718306
Free blocks:  11154684
Free inodes:  7060644
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 16384
Inode blocks per group:   512
Last mount time:  Wed Feb 23 20:49:57 2005
Last write time:  Mon Aug  8 08:46:52 2005
Mount count:  22
Maximum mount count:  -1
Last checked: Wed Nov 20 03:44:33 2002
Check interval:   0 ()
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   128
Journal UUID: 
Journal inode:8
Journal device:   0x
First orphan inode:   6488266

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
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Aug  8 03:17:00 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)): ext3_new_block: 
block(14366126) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es == c2510400

[...]
Aug  8 08:46:52 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)): ext3_new_block: 
block(14372149) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es == c2510400


Did you try fsck?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread gentoo
> > Aug  8 03:17:00 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)):
> > ext3_new_block:  
> > block(14366126) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es ==
> > c2510400 
> > [...]
> > Aug  8 08:46:52 www kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,2)):
> > ext3_new_block:  
> > block(14372149) >= blocks count(14366126) - block_group = 438, es ==
> > c2510400 

> Did you try fsck?

nope :-(
I'm a bit too afraid to try it. It's a production server with only one 
partition and it's located about 6000 miles away. If something goes wrong, 
I'll be really in a bad situation.

I think I'll have to do it anyway, but I'm checking for lighter solutions 
first...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Media players

2005-08-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> > It has radio, nice visuals, dvd, etc support. Much
>>
>> Since when does Windows Media Player have DVD support? Last time I
>> looked at it, it couldn't play DVDs by itself.
> 
> Yep. It does. You need drivers from your DVD player,

Ah, so it does not play DVDs. Thanks.

> but WMP 9/10 do actually 
> play DVDs. 

But only with drivers/codecs and after installation of those,
many other players play DVDs just fine as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Norberto Bensa
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> bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
> bzip2: No space left on device
> Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
> tar: Child returned status 1
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>


Check your temp partitions...


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread gentoo
Le Lundi, 8 Août 2005 13.57, vous avez ecrit :
> > bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
> > bzip2: No space left on device
> >         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
> > tar: Child returned status 1
> > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>
> Check your temp partitions...

No temp partitions. There is only one partition: /
It's a rented server, so I can't do anything about it.

Beside the last command of my script is "date > DATE", to keep a timestamp in 
a file. Even this has failed: "date: write error: No space left on device"

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
Norberto Bensa wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
bzip2: No space left on device
   Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors


Check your temp partitions...


What makes you believe this has something to do with /tmp?

Just curious...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Did you try fsck?


nope :-(
I'm a bit too afraid to try it. It's a production server with only one 
partition and it's located about 6000 miles away. If something goes wrong, 
I'll be really in a bad situation.


I think I'll have to do it anyway, but I'm checking for lighter solutions 
first...


fsck -n ?

Christoph
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Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED [OT] GRUB won't boot my new Gentoo install

2005-08-08 Thread Dan Johansson
On Sunday 07 August 2005 19.40, Dan Johansson wrote:
> On Sunday 07 August 2005 19.22, Richard Fish wrote:
> > Dan Johansson wrote:
> > >On Saturday 06 August 2005 20.43, Richard Fish wrote:
> > >>Dan Johansson wrote:
> > >>>On Friday 05 August 2005 14.37, Holly Bostick wrote:
> > Dan Johansson schreef:
> > >>
> > >>1. Isn't (hd1,2) the same device as /dev/sdb2?  It looks like your
> > >> /boot and / are the same here...
> > >
> > >No, (hd1,2) is /dev/sdb3 (grub start counting from 0).
> >
> > Sorry, my mistake.
>
> No problem...
>
> > Ok.  everything looks sane to me.  What are the starting/ending sectors
> > for /dev/sdb3?  (fdisk -l -u).  Some systems still have trouble
> > accessing sectors past about 8GB through BIOS calls.
>
> Disk /dev/sdb: 4335 MB, 4335206400 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 527 cylinders, total 8467200 sectors
> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
>
>Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdb163498014248976   82  Linux swap
> /dev/sdb2498015706859104422+  83  Linux
> /dev/sdb3706860819314 56227+  83  Linux
> /dev/sdb4819315   8466254   3823470   8e  Linux LVM
>
> As you see its installed on a quite small disk (4GB) so the 8GB limit
> should not be a problem in this case.
>
> I'm starting to think it's the kernel it self that is having a problem
> (miss configuration) so I'm playing around with the kernel configuration at
> the moment.

As I suspected, this was not a problem with GRUB, but with my brain.
I had compiled the kernel with ProcessorFamily=Pentium4, and this machine only 
have a PII processor. After selecting ProcessorFamily=i586 the Gentoo system 
boots OK. Sorry for the trouble and thanks for all suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting default MTU for rp-pppoe

2005-08-08 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Found an easier way to do it instead of editting the adsl-connect
script, for future reference.
In /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf there is the following line: PPPD_EXTRA=""
(round line 136) you can list any extra arguments here that you would
like to pass to pppd, like:
PPPD_EXTRA="mtu 1352 mru 1352 logfd 1" to set the MTU and logging or
whatever. Instead of having to edit the script file. It also overrides
the defaults. :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting default MTU for rp-pppoe

2005-08-08 Thread Paul Kain
thanks man

I'll use that



On 8/8/05, Ryan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Found an easier way to do it instead of editting the adsl-connect
> script, for future reference.
> In /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf there is the following line: PPPD_EXTRA=""
> (round line 136) you can list any extra arguments here that you would
> like to pass to pppd, like:
> PPPD_EXTRA="mtu 1352 mru 1352 logfd 1" to set the MTU and logging or
> whatever. Instead of having to edit the script file. It also overrides
> the defaults. :P
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread gentoo
Le Lundi, 8 Août 2005 14.10, Christoph Gysin a ecrit :
> >>Did you try fsck?
> >
> > nope :-(
> > I'm a bit too afraid to try it. It's a production server with only one
> > partition and it's located about 6000 miles away. If something goes
> > wrong, I'll be really in a bad situation.
> >
> > I think I'll have to do it anyway, but I'm checking for lighter solutions
> > first...
>
> fsck -n ?

with this, fsck won't change anything to my partition at all?
and what about this line from the output of tune2fs?
Filesystem state: clean with errors
Is it like "critical" or like "informative"?

Since e2fsck _will_ find errors, I'll have to do an e2fsck without -n anyway. 
Or should I light a candle, buy some horseshoes and hope that my / will stay 
the longest possible "clean with errors", before going to HD paradise?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

with this, fsck won't change anything to my partition at all?


nope.


and what about this line from the output of tune2fs?
Filesystem state: clean with errors
Is it like "critical" or like "informative"?


only fsck can tell...

Since e2fsck _will_ find errors, I'll have to do an e2fsck without -n anyway. 
Or should I light a candle, buy some horseshoes and hope that my / will stay 
the longest possible "clean with errors", before going to HD paradise?


How useful is this system to you, when you can't even write to the disk?

I would take to system down, check the filesystems, repair them (if needed), 
recover lost data from backups and get up and running again.


Things are a little more complicated for you, since you don't seem to have full 
access to the machine. Talk to your vendor/sysadmin who is responsible for the 
(physical) machines. I'm not familiar with your particular situation...


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Re: [gentoo-user] 16 colours xpm

2005-08-08 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 08 August 2005 11:45, Christoph Gysin wrote:
> Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Anybody in the know how to generate an xpm image with 16 colours and 1
> > character per pixel? I mean other than using vi. ;-) Alternatively,
> > converting an image to that format would do for me.
>
> imagemagick is your friend :-)
>
> # emerge -avt imagemagick
>
> The following isn't tested, read the man page if it doesn't work...
>
> $ convert -size 800x600 -colors 16 -depth 8 image.png image.xpm

Thanks you!

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RE: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Kintzios

> -Original Message-
> From: Tero Grundstrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 08 August 2005 11:21
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage
> 
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Tero Grundstrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 08 August 2005 08:46
> >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage
> >>
[snip]
> > You could have a separate /usr or /usr/portage partition so 
> that when/if
> > it runs out of space, your system continues to run despite 
> the emerge
> > coming to a halt.
> 
> I don't don't know if this is very practical, atleast without 
> a volume 
> manager.
> 
> Besides, isn't this taken care of by the filesystem already? 
> I know that 
> ext2/3 preserve a persentage of the partition size for root 
> especially for 
> these cases.

Well, it has been practical enough for *my* needs.  For a while I was
running Gentoo on a small partition and having run aground on a couple
of cases with a seized system during some mammoth emerge, I decided to
set up a separate /usr partition.  Thereafter, I was able to recover
future incidents without having to boot the LiveCD.  As you say, if
someone is going to alter partition sizes often then LVM is the way to
go.  On the other hand if you have a good idea on how big your
/usr/portage is or needs to be then my suggestion is a simple enough
solution.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Apache Virtual Host

2005-08-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Michael Crute wrote:

> Just a note for the future. Whenever you create a virual host that points to
> a directory you must create a directory container inside of the virual host
> container that sets up the permissions for the directory otherwise your will
> always get a 403 error.

Or, if all your vhosts roots will be under a certain folder, you can do
something like this (outside of any  container):


AllowOverride All
Options MultiViews -Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



 Options +ExecCGI -Includes -Indexes
 SetHandler cgi-script


In my case, each site is under a folder under /home and consists of html
and cgi-bin folders.



>
> -Mike
>
> On 8/7/05, q-parser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, that's it! Many thanks...I hope, there'll be no other problems.
> >
> > Michael Crute wrote:
> >
> > > Try this...
> > >
> > > 
> > > ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > DocumentRoot /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs
> > > ServerName Gentoo-drak
> > >
> > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/
> > > Redirect permanent index.html
> > > http://Gentoo-drak:85/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
> > > 
> > >
> > > ErrorLog /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log
> > > TransferLog /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log
> > >
> > > SetEnv PERL5LIB "/usr/local/koha/intranet/modules"
> > > SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/koha.conf"
> > >
> > > 
> > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
> > > AllowOverride None
> > > Order allow,deny
> > > Allow from all
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/7/05, *q-parser* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for help, however, it didn't work. I'm still getting 403 - You
> > > don't have permission to access / on this server.
> > > I think it's not necessary to define virtual hosts in vhosts.conf
> > > as it
> > > is, to my knowledge, included to apache2.conf, so does my config. Any
> > > other suggestions for this? This is getting rather pushy.
> > >
> > > Paul Raison wrote:
> > >
> > > > To use virtual hosting with Apache2, you should them up in the
> > > > /etc/apache2/conf/vhosts/vhosts.conf file. Then you need to add
> > > this
> > > > directive within the Virtual Host block:-
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Order allow,deny
> > > > Allow from all
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Repeat this section for /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/
> > > >
> > > > This should get it working.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > q-parser wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've got a problem with setting up a virtual host for my "koha"
> > > >> perl-based application. It has its own httpd.conf which I include
> > > >> into apache2.conf using Include directive. It looks like this:
> > > >>
> > > >> #
> > > >> Listen 85
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >> ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > >> DocumentRoot /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs
> > > >> ServerName Gentoo-drak
> > > >> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/
> > > >> Redirect permanent index.html
> > > >> http://Gentoo-drak:85/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
> > > >> ErrorLog /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log
> > > >> TransferLog /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log
> > > >> SetEnv PERL5LIB "/usr/local/koha/intranet/modules"
> > > >> SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/koha.conf"
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Gentoo-drak is a name of my machine. Ok, when I try to connect to
> > > >> localhost using port 85, I get this error message: You don't have
> > > >> permission to access / on this server. I don't understand because
> > > >> DocumentRoot dir "/usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs" has 775 permissions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Could anybody advise me how to get this to work or tip me out some
> > > >> tutorial on virtual hosting?
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:00:49 +0100, Michael Kintzios wrote:

> Well, it has been practical enough for *my* needs.  For a while I was
> running Gentoo on a small partition and having run aground on a couple
> of cases with a seized system during some mammoth emerge, I decided to
> set up a separate /usr partition.

You don't need to add partitions, because portage isn't hard coded to use
any particular partitions. If you run out of space during emerges, you
only have to change $PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere with more space
than /var. Equally, you can change $DISTDIR to reduce the amount of space
used in /usr/portage, you could even change it to a FAT32 partition of
your Windows installation has more free space than Gentoo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Acer TM2313 NIC problems

2005-08-08 Thread Richard Fish
Frank Schafer wrote:


Hi,

I've bought a new Acer TravelMate 2313. I've tried to install this
weekend.
Everything seemed to go fine but I don't have a network connection.

The NIC is a SiS 900 PCI fast ethernet adapter. Looking at ``dmesg''
there everything looks O.K. I see the driver loading, finding the card
and bringing the link up.

The lights on the NIC are both (continous) lighting. If I do an
``ifconfig eth0 down'' followed by an ``ifconfig eth0 up`` the lights
turn both off for about one second and then both on again.
 



Did you assign an address when you did "ifconfig eth0 up"?  Or does your 
network use DHCP, and if so, did you run dhcpcd/dhclient to get an address?


The output of "ifconfig -a", "route -n", and "cat /etc/conf.d/net" might 
give us some more clues.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resuming operations after suspend.

2005-08-08 Thread Richard Fish
Pupeno wrote:


Hello,
I am tryngi to get suspend to ram working on my IBM Thinkpad G40 but I can't 
get it to turn on agan. I am able to put it on suspend with klaptop, by hand, 
or by closing it and this script: 
http://www.hardeman.nu/~david/thinkpad.php#suspend
But it never comes up, wehn I open it it makes some noices (the HD working) 
but the monitor is never turned on.

Any ideas ?
 



I have this problem with my Sager laptop and software suspend 2 unless I 
add "noapic" to the kernel boot options.  I would say try "noapic" 
and/or "pci=routeirq", and see if it helps.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Richard Fish
Fernando Meira wrote:

Ok, so running through that forum I decided to try out some of the 
scripts to clean stale distfiles.
The first one (distcleaner-0.0.2) returned a lot of errors. The second 
(distmaint.py) was too weird. Finally, (distclean.sh) seemed to be ok, 
and freed 255 MB. I could then end my emerge (eclipse). After the 
emerge I end-up with 805Mb free.


As you say Holly, this is far from enough if I want to compile 
something big and also maybe for smaller apps. Which means that I have 
a problem.
In fact, I have a 38GB disk on my laptop. My mistake was that I 
assumed that gentoo was not so space-consuming. Now I'll have to make 
some modifications, redo my partitions. What I would like was to clean 
once per all my windoz partition (9GB)... but from time to time I need 
it.. unless I find a replacement to all the things I need from there.


Anyway, thanks for the replies.
If someone has a nice script to maintain distfiles under control let 
me know. ;)



My preference, since I normally mount with noatime, is:

mount /u/p/distfiles -o remount,atime(yes, I keep distfiles on a 
separate LVM volume!)

emerge --deep --emptytree --fetchonly world  (updates atimes)
mount /u/p/distfiles -o remount,noatime
find /u/p/distfiles -amin +60 -exec rm -v {} \;

The above commands will remove all distfiles not needed anymore, either 
due to updates or unmerge packages.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread gentoo
> How useful is this system to you, when you can't even write to the disk?

I can write to the system again... The system couldn't write from 3 AM to 8 
AM, after that, It was ok again. That's why I'm not really enthousiast to 
tune my fs. "If it's not broken, don't fix it.

> I would take to system down, check the filesystems, repair them (if
> needed), recover lost data from backups and get up and running again.

Yes, I would do that too, if I could :-(

> Things are a little more complicated for you, since you don't seem to have
> full access to the machine. Talk to your vendor/sysadmin who is responsible
> for the (physical) machines. I'm not familiar with your particular
> situation...

I've attached the output of e2fsck -n. Could you please tell me how bad it 
looks? Are there questions to which answering yes is dangerous?

e2fsck 1.26 (3-Feb-2002)
Warning!  /dev/hda2 is mounted.
Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem check.
/ contains a file system with errors, check forced.

Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Deleted inode 229438 has zero dtime.  Fix? no
Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  Fix? no
Inode 229528 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED.
Inode 4145432, i_blocks is 16, should be 8.  Fix? no
Inode 4538621, i_blocks is 120, should be 88.  Fix? no
Inode 4538633, i_blocks is 104, should be 88.  Fix? no
Inode 4538779, i_blocks is 248, should be 224.  Fix? no
Inode 4997298, i_blocks is 64, should be 56.  Fix? no
Inode 5161059, i_blocks is 86304, should be 41288.  Fix? no
Inode 5161060, i_blocks is 2888, should be 1016.  Fix? no
Inode 5652717, i_blocks is 40, should be 0.  Fix? no
Inode 5701868, i_blocks is 24, should be 8.  Fix? no
Inode 6488261, i_blocks is 48, should be 40.  Fix? no
Inode 6488266 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED.
Inode 6488293, i_blocks is 24, should be 8.  Fix? no
Inode 6488299, i_blocks is 40, should be 8.  Fix? no
Inode 6488300, i_blocks is 24, should be 8.  Fix? no
Inode 6488253, i_blocks is 168, should be 152.  Fix? no
Inode 6488259, i_blocks is 5680, should be 5664.  Fix? no
Inode 6488242, i_blocks is 2032, should be 2016.  Fix? no
Inode 6504594, i_blocks is 56, should be 48.  Fix? no
Inode 6504639, i_blocks is 72, should be 56.  Fix? no
Inode 6750248, i_blocks is 64, should be 56.  Fix? no

Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Entry 'xfj78Dhpf14819' in /var/spool/mqueue (2277384) has deleted/unused inode 
2277431.  Clear? no
Entry 'dfj78Dhpf14819' in /var/spool/mqueue (2277384) has deleted/unused inode 
2277432.  Clear? no
Entry 'qfj78Dhpf14819' in /var/spool/mqueue (2277384) has deleted/unused inode 
2277447.  Clear? no

Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Unattached zero-length inode 3244154.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244154
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244183.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244183
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244186.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244186
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244187.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244187
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244188.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244188
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244189.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244189
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244204.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244204
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244206.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244206
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244208.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244208
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244210.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244210
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244211.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244211
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244236.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244236
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244243.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244243
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244263.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244263
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244264.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244264
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244265.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244265
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244266.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244266
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244267.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244267
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244268.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244268
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244269.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244269
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244270.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244270
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattached zero-length inode 3244271.  Clear? no
Unattached inode 3244271
Connect to /lost+found? no
Unattac

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Christoph Gysin wrote:


 Check your temp partitions...


What makes you believe this has something to do with /tmp?

Just curious...


He didn't read the whole message, saw disk full and said oh, his temp 
partition is overflowing.


The correct answer here is that you have to do an fsck.  The best solution 
is to just be at the console of the machine, where you can boot into 
single user mode and run the fsck.


If that is not an option you'll need to make sure everyone is off the 
machine (Maintenance window?), stop all the services except the network 
services and sshd then remount the partition readd only and run the fsck.


quick rundown of commands:

rc-update show
/etc/init.d/service stop #for each non-repair essential service
ps auwx #to verify that all the services are stopped that need to be
mount -o remount,ro /
fsck.ext3 /dev/hdxy
mount -o remount,rw /
/etc/init.d/services start #for each service you stopped

At the end of this I really prefer doing a reboot (And fsck may tell you a 
reboot is required).


Might want to test the procedure a few times on a non-critical machine, 
but that should get you through the process.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How useful is this system to you, when you can't even write to the disk?


I can write to the system again... The system couldn't write from 3 AM to 8
AM, after that, It was ok again. That's why I'm not really enthousiast to
tune my fs. "If it's not broken, don't fix it.


But it is broken...



I would take to system down, check the filesystems, repair them (if
needed), recover lost data from backups and get up and running again.


Yes, I would do that too, if I could :-(


Read my other post about how to do this remotely.



Things are a little more complicated for you, since you don't seem to have
full access to the machine. Talk to your vendor/sysadmin who is responsible
for the (physical) machines. I'm not familiar with your particular
situation...


I've attached the output of e2fsck -n. Could you please tell me how bad it
looks? Are there questions to which answering yes is dangerous?


Disclaimer: You should have backups of the system!
I've found that fsck is actually pretty damn good at being safe.  I've 
never had fsck fail to repair a non-hardware filesystem corruption.  The 
most likely thing you'll need to do after a repair here is to reboot the 
machine, which is the sweating time.


If you can possibly get someone onsite from that office to watch the 
reboot you should be fine.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:53:54 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've attached the output of e2fsck -n. Could you please tell me how bad it 
> looks? Are there questions to which answering yes is dangerous?
> 
> e2fsck 1.26 (3-Feb-2002)
> Warning!  /dev/hda2 is mounted.

That is done in a mounted situation. I guess, it is even read/write-
mounted? 

Well, I'll cite the man page:
---snip
Note that in general it is not safe to run e2fsck on mounted
filesystems.  The only exception is if the -n option is specified, and -
c, -l, or -L options are not specified. However, even if it is safe
to do so, the results printed by e2fsck are not valid if the filesystem
is mounted.
---snip

This is very harsh, I'd say, remounting it ro (read-only), sync'ing it
and then doing "e2fsck -n" will give a lot more valid information.

In mounted state, esp. read-write, it is pretty normal on a busy system
to have these inconsistencies the e2fsck dump showed...

-hwh
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[gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
I have a BenQ DW1620 DVD/RW drive but DMA is not set, even though it
support it.  When I try to set it using:  using_dma -d 1
It will not let me.

Was the limit set by the manufacture?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re-post:How to get jfs root partition to properly fsck on power failure?

2005-08-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Aaron Nichols wrote:

> I was going to try the "non-genkernel" approach and see if that worked any
> differently, as the grub configuration is quite different. I have examples
> of other distributions which work fine using jfs in this situation, but
> those do not use udev and none require the same options that genkernel seems
> to.

I dont know if genkernel has much to do with it - OTOH, a lot of us dont
use genkernel because of people always reporting problems with it...


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Re: [gentoo-user] md5sum error

2005-08-08 Thread glumtail
HI:

install-x86-universal-2005.0.iso is ok
stage3-authon-xp-2005.0.tar.bz2 and other stages (but not x86) is ok too

I have downloaded stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz2 from several servers but
has the same problem.


2005/8/8, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:17:25 +0800, glumtail wrote:
> 
> >   stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz2: FAILED
> >   md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match
> >
> > install-x86-universal-2005.0.iso was downloaded via BitTorrent from
> > gentoo.org
> >
> > Any suggestion? Thanks!
> 
> Download it again. md5sum is telling you it is corrupt.
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] recomendations for web stats in php

2005-08-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, glumtail wrote:

> Why not write a GLOBAL script for collecting some usefull information?
> And then just be included in every pages, store records in a
> particular file.

This is a horrible way to do it. A lot of free stats services do something
similar with a block of JavaScript (usually some code that hits a script
on the stats server while the page is loading).

Since your web server logs accesses and errors it does most of the work
for you! All you need to do is download the logs and run analog on them
(optional: you could also setup analog to feed data to reportmagic).

On our servers we have written scripts to do this weekly.


> 2005/8/7, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:34:58 -0300
> > Mauro Faccenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have an customer that has a website hosted in a chrooted environment
> > > and want a stats page (hits, origin, etc...) I have access to the apache
> > > logs but I don't have a shell access, so I was thinking if there is any
> > > php script that reads the log file and plots a nice web page with those
> > > stats.
> > >
> > > Or can anyone suggest another solution?
> >
> > Hm, I don't think using a simple php script would work very reliably.
> > Parsing the log files can become a heavy task depending on the
> > logfile's size. So I think it's always the best solution to run the
> > analyzer from command line.
> >
> > You could e.g. run the analyzer on a different host where you have
> > command line access and can run that scripted every night. The
> > resulting stats pages and graphs can then be synced back to the web-
> > only server.
> >
> > Another possibility would be to use desktop programs for the logfile
> > analysis. I don't know of good free programs here, but at least there
> > are a few very professional commercial ones.
> >
> > Both solutions only require access to the logfile which you told you
> > have.
> >
> > -hwh
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> >
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] recomendations for web stats in php

2005-08-08 Thread kashani
glumtail wrote:

Hi:

Why not write a GLOBAL script for collecting some usefull information?
And then just be included in every pages, store records in a
particular file.



Because the first time you get any spike in traffic your performance 
goes to hell especially if done through a db with a remote call.


I had to have just such a talk with a site recently after they ended up 
on Howard Stern. It nearly took down the web servers before we figured 
out what was causing the performance issues.


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:03 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> I have a BenQ DW1620 DVD/RW drive but DMA is not set, even though it
> support it.  When I try to set it using:  using_dma -d 1
> It will not let me.
> 
> Was the limit set by the manufacture?
> 
> -- 
> #Joseph

I think the issue might be the driver for BenQ writer units.  
Does anybody know what driver should be used with BenQ, if it is
available at all?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] recomendations for web stats in php

2005-08-08 Thread daniel
you might want to check out awstats (emerge awstats) it's a very in-depth 
apache log analyser that'll parse combined-formated log files to capture all 
sorts of handy information and graph it to be pretty too ;-)

barring that, you could write your own php (or whatever language you like) 
-based script to handle pixel calls.  something like this:

the page you track includes html display of a pixel.  the img call for the 
pixel looks like this:

  

you can use your own code (even javascript if you wanna capture neat stuff 
like client resolution and colour depth) and pass that in the query string to 
your tracking server.  your tracking code will look something like this:

   $value) {
  // do some logging of some kind
}
header('Content-type: image/gif');
header('P3P: CP="NOI NID ADMa OUR IND UNI COM NAV"');
header('Expires: Sat, 22 Apr 1978 02:19:00 GMT');
header('Last-Modified: ' . gmdate('D, d M Y H:i:s') . ' GMT');
header('Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate');
header('Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0', false);
header('Pragma: no-cache');
printf(
   
'%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%c%',
   
71,73,70,56,57,97,1,0,1,0,128,255,0,192,192,192,0,0,0,33,249,4,1,0,0,0,0,44,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,2,2,68,1,0,59
);
  ?>

that'll output a transparent gif and make sure that it's not cached so you can 
continue to log repeated page calls.

hope that helps ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] crypted key for dm-crypt

2005-08-08 Thread Pupeno
On Sunday 07 August 2005 04:39, Christian Hoenig wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Well, I have dm-crypt configured and running. It encrypts tha swap, a
> > loopback for /tmp (with a random key), all this using the
> > standard /etc/conf.d/cryptfs.
> > Now I'd like to encrypt my home with a key instad of a passphrase, place
> > that key on my pen drive after etcrypting it with a key, my questions
> > are: - How do I generate the key ?
>
> I have restricted my key to printable letters.
> So an easy way to generate a key without uuencode or stuff is something
> like this:
>   cat /dev/random |sed -e "s/[^a-zA-Z0-9]//g"
>
> > - How do I en/decrypt it ?
>
> Encrypt your just generated key? I thought you wanted to get rid of
> passphrases.
No, I wanted to get rid of having to recreate the whole filesystem to change 
the passphrase (with an encrypted key I only change the encripting 
passphrase).
Furthermore I'd have stronger encription because a dictionary attack would be 
harder.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 16 colours xpm

2005-08-08 Thread Paul Raison
Use The GIMP

Uwe Thiem wrote:

Anybody in the know how to generate an xpm image with 16 colours and 1 
character per pixel? I mean other than using vi. ;-) Alternatively, 
converting an image to that format would do for me.


Uwe

 


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Rumen Yotov
Joseph wrote:

>On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:03 -0600, Joseph wrote:
>  
>
>>I have a BenQ DW1620 DVD/RW drive but DMA is not set, even though it
>>support it.  When I try to set it using:  using_dma -d 1
>>It will not let me.
>>
>>Was the limit set by the manufacture?
>>
>>-- 
>>#Joseph
>>
>>
>
>I think the issue might be the driver for BenQ writer units.  
>Does anybody know what driver should be used with BenQ, if it is
>available at all?
>
>  
>
Hi,
First thing to do is to make sure you have support for your mobos'
chipset into kernel-config.
Then emerge/install hdparm and have a customized '/etc/conf.s/hdparm' file.
Ex.(mine):
hda_args="-d1 -A1 -m16 -u1 -a64" // this is for my hard disk
all_args="-d1" // this is for all other
disks - DVD-R and DVD-RW
Think i took this mainly from install-guide.2005.0. Don't forget to
start "/etc/init.d/hdparm start" as root and if everything is OK,
"rc-update add hdparm default" to always have this at boot time.
Test with "hdparm -Tt /dev/hdX" X is a,b,c,d (for an IDE-disk) check
again "man hdparm" for the options ;)
HTH. Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Roy Wright
Joseph wrote:


On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:03 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 


I have a BenQ DW1620 DVD/RW drive but DMA is not set, even though it
support it.  When I try to set it using:  using_dma -d 1
It will not let me.

Was the limit set by the manufacture?

--
#Joseph
   



I think the issue might be the driver for BenQ writer units.  
Does anybody know what driver should be used with BenQ, if it is

available at all?

 


I'm having the same issue with a Memorex DVD writer.
Googling suggests making sure the IDE controller
chipset module is loaded.  My problem is that I don't
see a config module option for Intel 82801EB (ICH5).

Roy
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[gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Matt Randolph
First off, let me say that I know perfectly well that you can `emerge -C 
package_name` at any time.  That's not what I'm talking about.  What I 
want to do is to remove the built binary too.


Let me explain what I do and what I'm trying to do in more detail...

Sometimes, I like to be able to test several different ~arch versions of 
a package to see which one works best for me.  I may try switching back 
and forth between several different versions, possibly deciding 
ultimately that none of the ~arch versions are any improvement over the 
previously installed arch version, and so I re-emerge the old one.


If the program in question is rather large, I won't want to build it any 
more times than I have to.  Consequently, I use quickpkg on the 
original, and then --buildpkg on all of the testing versions.  This way, 
I only have to compile each package once, yet I can switch back and 
forth between them in mere seconds.


The problem with this scheme is that the built binaries aren't removed 
when you unmerge the corresponding package.  Actually, if they were, 
then this technique wouldn't work at all.  I have a very small hard 
drive so I can't afford to have these unneeded binaries cluttering up 
the disk.  I have to get rid of them somehow.


How the heck do you remove the old built binaries?  They aren't simply 
put in '${PKGDIR}/All' like the manual says.  There are a bunch of 
places that the different pieces go.  A bunch of symlinks and new 
directories are created too, IIRC.  It is a nuisance to remove 
everything by hand.  I wrote a script to do some of the legwork for me, 
but it's time consuming and requires a lot of user intervention.


Isn't there a tool to remove these old binaries?  Is there a command you 
pass to emerge?  I assume there's something really trivial and obvious 
that I've simply missed, but I'm getting tired of searching for it.


Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi,

On 8/8/05, Tero Grundstr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Fernando Meira wrote:> Hi Tero,> what I meant with "redo my partitions" was in the way that I will expand> my gentoo partition (or try to).> I have:> # df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on> /dev/hda4 4.6G 3.8G 803M 83% /^^ *might* be enough for a minimal system, but not for your compiles ordistfiles.
Yep. I don't pretend to have a minimal system. In fact, my laptop is
the only pc I currently use, so it has to have everything I need.
> udev 252M 808K 252M 1% /dev^^ Why a separate partition for /dev? This is complete waste. Especially
with that size.
As Neil said, it is a virtual filesystem. I didn't create it. What I
did create was the swap partition with 512MB (the same size as my RAM)
and it looks like it is split into two: "udev" and "none".
> /dev/hda5 23G 20G 3.3G 86% /mnt/share^^ You'll *never* need that much space in here. Do not have this on a
separate partition. Maybe you could make this partition your /home ?
Well, this partition has the purpose to hold all my documents and
stuff. My idea was to have a partition only to windoz and its programs,
another to gentoo and its programs, and then this one accessed by both
side. It started to be my /home but I had some problems with
permissions in the beginning that I couldn't solve, so I had to move
/home back to gentoo partition.
> /dev/hda1 9.8G 8.0G 1.8G 82% /mnt/windows^^ Complete waste ;)

ehheh.. .yes! The problem is that I need some things from there. I
really can't wait for the day when I don't waste disk space with crap. 
> what are the advantages of pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR and DISTDIR to other> partitions?
The idea is, ofcourse, to give your compiles and distfiles more room.This in turn would free up space for your system.
Ok, but that is assuming that I can point them to other partition. But
if I have other partition available, I can just merge it with gentoo's
one and keep everything together. It would be the same, right? 
>> thanks for the localepurge tip:> - Total disk space freed by localepurge: 48448K (not bad ;)
Yeah, it's great. BTW, check out the 'userlocales' USE flag for glibc too.It will speed up the compilation and save some space.
I'll have a  look to that.
Thanks!
Fernando



Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:52 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote:
> Joseph wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:03 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I have a BenQ DW1620 DVD/RW drive but DMA is not set, even though it
> >>support it.  When I try to set it using:  using_dma -d 1
> >>It will not let me.
> >>
> >>Was the limit set by the manufacture?
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>#Joseph
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I think the issue might be the driver for BenQ writer units.  
> >Does anybody know what driver should be used with BenQ, if it is
> >available at all?
> >
> >  
> >
> Hi,
> First thing to do is to make sure you have support for your mobos'
> chipset into kernel-config.
> Then emerge/install hdparm and have a customized '/etc/conf.s/hdparm' file.
> Ex.(mine):
> hda_args="-d1 -A1 -m16 -u1 -a64" // this is for my hard disk
> all_args="-d1" // this is for all other
> disks - DVD-R and DVD-RW
> Think i took this mainly from install-guide.2005.0. Don't forget to
> start "/etc/init.d/hdparm start" as root and if everything is OK,
> "rc-update add hdparm default" to always have this at boot time.
> Test with "hdparm -Tt /dev/hdX" X is a,b,c,d (for an IDE-disk) check
> again "man hdparm" for the options ;)
> HTH. Rumen

I have tried hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
but it is not accepting the it.  I can not set DMA on this DVD 
I just called BenQ and they don't support Linux; so don't buy BenQ
products as they don't support Linux.  In example of DVD/writer it will
become plain CD reader.
Without DMA access the writing to CD will be very slow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi Sean,On 8/8/05, Sean Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fernando Meira wrote:> I have:> # df -h>
FilesystemSize  Used
Avail Use% Mounted on>
/dev/hda4
4.6G  3.8G  803M  83% />
udev  252M  808K  252M  
1% /dev>
/dev/hda5  23G  
20G  3.3G  86% /mnt/share>
/dev/hda1
9.8G  8.0G  1.8G  82% /mnt/windows>
none  252M
0  252M   0% /dev/shm>> Options:>  - erase hda1 (win$) and merge with with hda4.>  - somehow rearrange hda5 (which is FAT) and split it 2, and merge a> part to hda4.The question is...can you live without the windows partition?  
Well,
maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something that works
only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that I only use
windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to look for a
linux replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux).

 if you don't need it I would look at this:1) Merge hda1 and hda4.  Assuming this is desktop box that should be
plenty of space for the system and applications
Yes, that would be the best I could do. But, assuming that I can't
remove entirely windows from my laptop, what about reduce it to it's
minimum (windows + apps that I really need) and run it by VMware,
always under Gentoo? The spare space from unused apps would merge it
with gentoo's partition.. I estimate it of about 4Gb. What do you say
about this?
2) Create a /boot partition (assuming you don't currently have one onyour box that wasn't mounted when you did the df).  This way if your
system crashes at least /boot will not be corrupted.
My /boot is inside gentoo's partition. I understand the point of having it outside.. I should think of changing it!! Good point!
3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of choice.  Mountit as /home.

The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With windows away, I could do that.
>From this partition (hda5) I may be able to free some space and "move" it to gentoo's partition.
4) Consider creating a swap partition.  Even if you have plenty of RAM,in my experience Linux just runs better with a swap partition mounted.

I have. 512mb swap. df shows it slitted into 2 other: udev and none
I would strongly suggest that you do a full backup before doing any ofthis.  I know there are partition resizing and reformatting utilities
but they I wouldn't trust them without a backup.
Yes, of course!
Thanks for suggestions.
Fernando.


Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Luigi Pinna
Alle 20:16, lunedì 08 agosto 2005, Joseph ha scritto:
>
> I have tried hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
> but it is not accepting the it.  I can not set DMA on this DVD
> I just called BenQ and they don't support Linux; so don't buy BenQ
> products as they don't support Linux.  In example of DVD/writer it
> will become plain CD reader.
> Without DMA access the writing to CD will be very slow.
>
> --
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I have a BenQ all works great: dvd writing (8x) and cd writing (24x)
I use hdparm as boot service all it is enough
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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Roy Wright
Rumen Yotov wrote:


Hi,
First thing to do is to make sure you have support for your mobos'
chipset into kernel-config.
Then emerge/install hdparm and have a customized '/etc/conf.s/hdparm' file.
Ex.(mine):
hda_args="-d1 -A1 -m16 -u1 -a64" // this is for my hard disk
all_args="-d1" // this is for all other
disks - DVD-R and DVD-RW
Think i took this mainly from install-guide.2005.0. Don't forget to
start "/etc/init.d/hdparm start" as root and if everything is OK,
"rc-update add hdparm default" to always have this at boot time.
Test with "hdparm -Tt /dev/hdX" X is a,b,c,d (for an IDE-disk) check
again "man hdparm" for the options ;)
HTH. Rumen
 


Here's the details of what I'm seeing from a root shell:

royw-gentoo conf.d # hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd

/dev/dvd:
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
using_dma=  0 (off)

royw-gentoo conf.d # less /etc/conf.d/hdparm | grep -v \#

all_args="-d1"

royw-gentoo conf.d # /etc/init.d/hdparm start
* Caching service dependencies 
...  
[ ok ]
* Starting hdparm 
...   
[ ok ]

* Running hdparm on /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 ...
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted

royw-gentoo linux # hdparm -I /dev/dvd

/dev/dvd:

ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media
   Model Number:   Memorex DVD+/-RW True-8X
   Serial Number:  DADC011844WL
   Firmware Revision:  1.06
Standards:
   Likely used CD-ROM ATAPI-1
Configuration:
   DRQ response: 50us.
   Packet size: 12 bytes
Capabilities:
   LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
   Buffer size: 64.0kB
   DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2
Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
   PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
Cycle time: no flow control=240ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
   Enabled Supported:
  *DEVICE RESET cmd
  *PACKET command feature set
  *Power Management feature set
HW reset results:
   CBLID- above Vih
   Device num = 0 determined by the jumper

royw-gentoo conf.d # lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory 
Controller Hub (rev 02)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P Processor to AGP 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Processor to PCI 
to CSA Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)

:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC 
Interface Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER 
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 
6800 GT] (rev a1)
:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547EI Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (LOM)


royw-gentoo linux # dmesg | grep -i dma
 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0xF000 irq 14
ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
ata1: dev 1 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133
ata1: dev 1 configured for UDMA/133

royw-gentoo linux # less /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i dma
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y

I'm missing something simple, but just don't see it.

TIA,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi Neil,On 8/8/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:00:49 +0100, Michael Kintzios wrote:> Well, it has been practical enough for *my* needs.  For a while I was> running Gentoo on a small partition and having run aground on a couple
> of cases with a seized system during some mammoth emerge, I decided to> set up a separate /usr partition.You don't need to add partitions, because portage isn't hard coded to useany particular partitions. If you run out of space during emerges, you
only have to change $PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere with more spacethan /var. Equally, you can change $DISTDIR to reduce the amount of spaceused in /usr/portage, you could even change it to a FAT32 partition of
your Windows installation has more free space than Gentoo.
So I can point them both to the FAT32 partition and get 1Gb back (when
not emerging) to gentoo's system.. that's interesting! That could help
me until I find a real solution to the mess on my pc... :)



Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Fernando Meira
On 8/8/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My preference, since I normally mount with noatime, is:mount /u/p/distfiles -o remount,atime(yes, I keep distfiles on a
separate LVM volume!)emerge --deep --emptytree --fetchonly world  (updates atimes)mount /u/p/distfiles -o remount,noatimefind /u/p/distfiles -amin +60 -exec rm -v {} \;The above commands will remove all distfiles not needed anymore, either
due to updates or unmerge packages.
This looks to be a very nice way to do it. It works in another way than
the scripts I been looking to. Instead of searching what "should" be
deprecated, it verifies that after an emerge world.. nice and simple!!
However, in this way you'll erase all other packages that you may need
in case you want to recompile them.. but maybe in this case, it's
better to download them again than keep ALL of them wasting your disk
space.

Other thing: I was not aware of LVM volumes, what are the advantages of using it to keep distfiles? And, how big is your volume?

Cheers,
Fernando


Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Rumen Yotov
Roy Wright wrote:

> Rumen Yotov wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> First thing to do is to make sure you have support for your mobos'
>> chipset into kernel-config.
>> Then emerge/install hdparm and have a customized '/etc/conf.s/hdparm'
>> file.
>> Ex.(mine):
>> hda_args="-d1 -A1 -m16 -u1 -a64" // this is for my hard disk
>> all_args="-d1" // this is for all other
>> disks - DVD-R and DVD-RW
>> Think i took this mainly from install-guide.2005.0. Don't forget to
>> start "/etc/init.d/hdparm start" as root and if everything is OK,
>> "rc-update add hdparm default" to always have this at boot time.
>> Test with "hdparm -Tt /dev/hdX" X is a,b,c,d (for an IDE-disk) check
>> again "man hdparm" for the options ;)
>> HTH. Rumen
>>  
>>
> Here's the details of what I'm seeing from a root shell:
>
> royw-gentoo conf.d # hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
>
> /dev/dvd:
> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
> using_dma=  0 (off)
>
> royw-gentoo conf.d # less /etc/conf.d/hdparm | grep -v \#
>
> all_args="-d1"
>
> royw-gentoo conf.d # /etc/init.d/hdparm start
> * Caching service dependencies
> ... 
> [ ok ]
> * Starting hdparm
> ...   
>
> [ ok ]
> * Running hdparm on /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 ...
> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
>
> royw-gentoo linux # hdparm -I /dev/dvd
>
> /dev/dvd:
>
> ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media
>Model Number:   Memorex DVD+/-RW True-8X
>Serial Number:  DADC011844WL
>Firmware Revision:  1.06
> Standards:
>Likely used CD-ROM ATAPI-1
> Configuration:
>DRQ response: 50us.
>Packet size: 12 bytes
> Capabilities:
>LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
>Buffer size: 64.0kB
>DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2
> Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
>PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
> Cycle time: no flow control=240ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
> Commands/features:
>Enabled Supported:
>   *DEVICE RESET cmd
>   *PACKET command feature set
>   *Power Management feature set
> HW reset results:
>CBLID- above Vih
>Device num = 0 determined by the jumper
>
> royw-gentoo conf.d # lspci
> :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory
> Controller Hub (rev 02)
> :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P Processor to AGP
> Controller (rev 02)
> :00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Processor to
> PCI to CSA Bridge (rev 02)
> :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
> :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
> :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
> :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
> :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
> USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
> :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
> :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> Controller (rev 02)
> :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> Controller (rev 02)
> :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
> :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40
> [GeForce 6800 GT] (rev a1)
> :02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547EI Gigabit
> Ethernet Controller (LOM)
>
> royw-gentoo linux # dmesg | grep -i dma
>  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
> ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0xF000 irq 14
> ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
> ata1: dev 1 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
> ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133
> ata1: dev 1 configured for UDMA/133
>
> royw-gentoo linux # less /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i dma
> CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
> CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
> # CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
> # CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
> CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
>
> I'm missing something simple, but just don't see it.
>
> TIA,
> Roy

Hi Roy,
Just guessing here but seems you have SATA drives not IDE, don't
use/know much about SATA yet ;) but maybe this have something to do with
the error on activating DMA, from the logs your hard-disk *is* using
UDMA-133 & PIO4 ?
Could check BIOS-settings, other thoughts here? Check with 'hdparm'
setting on your hard (/dev/sdaX or /dev/).
All kernel-config you show deals with IDE/ISA settings.
HTH. Rum

Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Sean Reiser
Fernando Meira wrote:

The question is...can you live without the windows partition?   



Well, maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something 
that works only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that 
I only use windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to 
look for a linux replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux).


mmhmm... the webcam / video-conference stuff is not something I have 
much expirience with either, sorry to say.  As far as the other software 
is concerned I would look at the crossover office fork of wine (assuming 
that wine itself won't run it) or maybe some virtualization software 
such as vmare.




 if you don't need it I would look at this:

1) Merge hda1 and hda4.  Assuming this is desktop box that should be
plenty of space for the system and applications


Yes, that would be the best I could do. But, assuming that I can't 
remove entirely windows from my laptop, what about reduce it to it's 
minimum (windows + apps that I really need) and run it by VMware, 
always under Gentoo? The spare space from unused apps would merge it 
with gentoo's partition.. I estimate it of about 4Gb. What do you say 
about this?


With VMWare you create a virtual disk, which can be expanded as needed.  
This is one way to go.  As mentioned Wine is the other.



3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of
choice.  Mount
it as /home. 



The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With 
windows away, I could do that.


Right.  Keep in mind that with VMWare you can mount your linux home 
directory as a SMB share.


Another advantage of a seperate  /home is that you can reinstall the OS 
without effecting your important personal data and settings.   I realize 
on your current system /mnt/share really handled some of that but 
thought I'd mention it as well.



4) Consider creating a swap partition.  Even if you have plenty of
RAM,
in my experience Linux just runs better with a swap partition
mounted. 



I have. 512mb swap. df shows it slitted into 2 other: udev and none


OK... blury vision... that email was part of an allnighter.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue

2005-08-08 Thread YoYo siska
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 09:01:09AM +0200, Arek Murzyn wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:58:11 +0200
> > "Arek Murzyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I've done something recently on my gentoo and I don't remember what but
> till
> > > that moment I cannot run Eterm or xterm when logged as user. When logged
> as
> > > root everything is working. This issue is known on the web but solutions
> > > does not satisfy me Eterm.
> > > There are messages:
> > > "Can't open pseudo-tty --No such file or directory"
> > > "Unable to run sub-command"
> > > Then Eterm window raises and there is only "Hit any key to exit"
> > > I checked:
> > > - /dev/pty is compiled in kernel
> > > - /dev/pty directory exists and all files within
> > > - symbolic links in /dev exists too
> > > - changed rights to all these files to rwxrwxrwx - nothing helped
> > > 2.6.12r6, 2005.0
> > > What can I do more? Changin debugging level in Eterm gives nothing.
> > >
> >
> > Did you use Unix98 PTY or Legacy (BSD) Pty?
> > Also, are you using udev?
> > And you have Virtual terminal?
> >
> > fwiw - I haven't seen it here with Unix98 ptys, udev, and 2.6.12-r4.
> 
> I use udev and Legacy(BSD) with 2.6.12-r6. How to check if I use virtual
> terminal?
> How to switch to Unix98 - I can't find this option in menuconfig.
> Very strange is that root can open eterm without problems, any user (even
> with additional group 'root') can't.
> I see some messages in logs about pam authentication. Could it be related to
> that?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Arek
> 
> 

I had such a problem after an upgrade of udev. I didn't run etc-update
and with the old config udev just made the ptys with wrong permissions

after etc-update and a reboot with the new udev config all was well
again...

yoyo

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Luke Albers
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 14:54 -0400, Sean Reiser wrote:
> Fernando Meira wrote:
> 
> > The question is...can you live without the windows partition?   
> >
> >
> > Well, maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something 
> > that works only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that 
> > I only use windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to 
> > look for a linux replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux).
> 
> mmhmm... the webcam / video-conference stuff is not something I have 
> much expirience with either, sorry to say.  As far as the other software 
> is concerned I would look at the crossover office fork of wine (assuming 
> that wine itself won't run it) or maybe some virtualization software 
> such as vmare.
> 
> >

I don't have any experience with it, but gnomemeeting might be something
you would be interested in

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:23:30 +, Fernando Meira wrote:

> > You don't need to add partitions, because portage isn't hard coded to
> > use any particular partitions. If you run out of space during
> > emerges, you only have to change $PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere with
> > more space than /var. Equally, you can change $DISTDIR to reduce the
> > amount of space used in /usr/portage, you could even change it to a
> > FAT32 partition of your Windows installation has more free space than
> > Gentoo.

> So I can point them both to the FAT32 partition and get 1Gb back (when
> not emerging) to gentoo's system.. that's interesting! That could help
> me until I find a real solution to the mess on my pc... :)

I'm not sure whether $PORTAGE_TMPDIR would work on a FAT32 partition,
because of the lack of permissions.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Jonathan Nichols
I can write to the system again... The system couldn't write from 3 AM to 8 
AM, after that, It was ok again. That's why I'm not really enthousiast to 
tune my fs. "If it's not broken, don't fix it.




Yikes.

Y'know, what city is this machine in? One of us might be nearby and 
willing to talk the data center folks through the issue. *shrug* Just an 
idea. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:25 -0500, Roy Wright wrote:
> royw-gentoo linux # dmesg | grep -i dma
>   DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
> ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0xF000 irq 14
> ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
> ata1: dev 1 ATA, max UDMA/133, 145226112 sectors: lba48
> ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133
> ata1: dev 1 configured for UDMA/133
> 

Is your DVD units SCSI, if so you will not be able to use hdparm to set
any options.  hdparm doesn't work with SCSI unit, you can list the
parameters but not set them.

My BenQ DW1620 is an IDE unit connected to hdd so I should be able to
set the parameters using "hdaprm".  I can set some parameters but not
DMA with "-d1"

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:59:26 -0400, Matt Randolph wrote:

> How the heck do you remove the old built binaries?  They aren't simply 
> put in '${PKGDIR}/All' like the manual says.  There are a bunch of 
> places that the different pieces go.  A bunch of symlinks and new 
> directories are created too, IIRC. 

The packages go in ${PKGDIR}/All, the rest are just symlinks. Remove the
packages from All then delete the dangling symlinks with 

symlinks -dr ${PKGDIR}

emerge symlinks if you don't already have it.

Or you can do it automatically with 

qpkg -I -nc -v | while read p; do
touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
done
find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Roy Wright
Rumen Yotov wrote:


Hi Roy,
Just guessing here but seems you have SATA drives not IDE, don't
use/know much about SATA yet ;) but maybe this have something to do with
the error on activating DMA, from the logs your hard-disk *is* using
UDMA-133 & PIO4 ?
Could check BIOS-settings, other thoughts here? Check with 'hdparm'
setting on your hard (/dev/sdaX or /dev/).
All kernel-config you show deals with IDE/ISA settings.
HTH. Rumen
 


My system has two SATA WD Raptors for hard disks.  I'm
trying to get DMA working for the DVD writer which is IDE.
I'd just like to eliminate the occasionaly hiccup when playing
DVDs.

FYI, AFAIK hdparm does not work with SATA.  From the man
page it is pretty explicit that it is EIDE/IDE only.  When I try
it against my SATA drives it barfs:

royw-gentoo linux # hdparm -i /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Thank you,
Roy
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[gentoo-user] Web classes - can't pass their windows compatibility test

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Anyone want a challenge? ;-)

   I was interested in taking a web class later this afternoon. The
signup page sent me this link  in and email:

http://prod1.centra.com/SiteRoots/main/SystemCheck/SystemCheck.jhtml

and asked me to check my compatibility. Of course, being a non-Windows
user my Gentoo/Firefox system doesn't meet the requirements, but what
the heck, why not try, right?

   OK, I pass the first step (Browser & Java) but it then goes on to
check the network and all it does is go to a blank page after a
message about popups. I've set Firefox to allow popups but that's not
working.

   Can anyone get further?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Roy Wright wrote:

-snip-

> I'm having the same issue with a Memorex DVD writer.
> Googling suggests making sure the IDE controller
> chipset module is loaded.  My problem is that I don't
> see a config module option for Intel 82801EB (ICH5).
> 

Yes u are right, IMO it has nothing to do with CD/DVD writer
or HDD itself, it depends on IDE chipset driver.
My mobo is also based on i865 chipset, one SATA and one PATA
HDD connected.
If I use 2.4 kernel, both drives are fast, also DMA on PATA drive
is on, but using 2.6 kernel PATA HDD gives sustain rate only
~2MB/s, DMA setting fails with "Operation not permitted" error.

"lshw" says this:

   *-ide
 description: IDE interface
 product: 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller
 vendor: Intel Corporation
 physical id: 1f.2
 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1f.2
 logical name: scsi0
 version: 02
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 66MHz
 capabilities: ide bus_master emulated
 configuration: driver=ata_piix  <
 resources: ioport:fc00-fc0f irq:18

# grep -i "pii\|ata"  /usr/src/linux/.config:

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_AHCI is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SVW is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_ATA_PIIX=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PROMISE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_QSTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SX4 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_ULI is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VITESSE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
CONFIG_I2C_PIIX4=m
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB=y


Although I have "ata_piix.o" compiled in kernel (listed by lshw), there
is only slow generic PATA support available.

noro


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Re: [gentoo-user] Web classes - can't pass their windows compatibility test

2005-08-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
Mark Knecht wrote:

   OK, I pass the first step (Browser & Java) but it then goes on to
check the network and all it does is go to a blank page after a
message about popups. I've set Firefox to allow popups but that's not
working.

   Can anyone get further?


Not with firefox. The site uses ActiveX...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web classes - can't pass their windows compatibility test

2005-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
   Anyone want a challenge? ;-)

   I was interested in taking a web class later this afternoon. The
signup page sent me this link  in and email:

http://prod1.centra.com/SiteRoots/main/SystemCheck/SystemCheck.jhtml

and asked me to check my compatibility. Of course, being a non-Windows
user my Gentoo/Firefox system doesn't meet the requirements, but what
the heck, why not try, right?

   OK, I pass the first step (Browser & Java) but it then goes on to
check the network and all it does is go to a blank page after a
message about popups. I've set Firefox to allow popups but that's not
working.

   Can anyone get further?

Thanks,
Mark


Look in "Tools->JavaScript Console".  On the network check it gave me a 
JavaScript error:


Error: netscape.softupdate has no properties
Source File: 
http://prod1.centra.com/SiteRoots/main/Install/NS-Install.jsp?sessionid=1123535472702316034&redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fprod1.centra.com%2FSiteRoots%2Fmain%2FSystemCheck%2FNetworkCheckLauncher.jhtml%3Fcurr%3D1%26status%3D100%26securemode%3D%26locale%3Den_US%26sessionid%3D1123535472702316034&launchclient=true&returnPageUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fprod1.centra.com%2FSiteRoots%2Fmain%2FInstall%2FMessage.jsp%3Fsessionid%3D1123535472702316034
Line: 208


It seems to be unsuccessful trying to install a netscape plugin.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re-post:How to get jfs root partition to properly fsck on power failure?

2005-08-08 Thread Aaron Nichols
On 8/8/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Aaron Nichols wrote:> I was going to try the "non-genkernel" approach and see if that worked any> differently, as the grub configuration is quite different. I have examples
> of other distributions which work fine using jfs in this situation, but> those do not use udev and none require the same options that genkernel seems> to.I dont know if genkernel has much to do with it - OTOH, a lot of us dont
use genkernel because of people always reporting problems with it...
Thanks, apparently you can add yet another reason not to use it. I
recompiled the kernel without using genkernel, used the grub.conf
stanza below, and now this works fine. 

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-r6
root (hd0,1)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/sda6 udev hda=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi ro

Very frustrating. 

Thanks for helping. 

Aaron
 


Re: [gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Matt Randolph
Neil Bothwick wrote:

Or you can do it automatically with 


qpkg -I -nc -v | while read p; do
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
   done
find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;
 



Since qpkg is being phased out, I guess the equery way to do this is:

equery -C l 2> /dev/null | grep / | while read p; do
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
   done
find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;

Right?  qpkg is a lot faster, though.

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[gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello!

What filesystem(s) do you recommend for use on a notebook?
I'm looking for a FS that's fairly stable even if all of a
sudden the power goes away (battery empty) and one, that
also doesn't (overly) unneccesarily spin up the hard drive.

I don't think that I'll use Reiser4, as it's lacking an
online fs resizer. At least making the fs bigger should be
doable while the FS is mounted.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web classes - can't pass their windows compatibility test

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Knecht
Christoph & Zac,
   Thanks. Guess I'm out of luck.

cheers,
Mark

On 8/8/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> >OK, I pass the first step (Browser & Java) but it then goes on to
> > check the network and all it does is go to a blank page after a
> > message about popups. I've set Firefox to allow popups but that's not
> > working.
> >
> >Can anyone get further?
> 
> Not with firefox. The site uses ActiveX...
> 
> Christoph
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-08 Thread Raymond Lillard
Christopher Fisk wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How useful is this system to you, when you can't even write to the disk?



I can write to the system again... The system couldn't write from 3 AM 
to 8

AM, after that, It was ok again. That's why I'm not really enthousiast to
tune my fs. "If it's not broken, don't fix it.



But it is broken...


Mat,

It sure sounds broken to me.  Have you looked at your
log files for hardware errors?  Maybe you've lost a
superblock due to a hard disk error?

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Matt Randolph
Joseph wrote:


I have tried hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
but it is not accepting the it.  I can not set DMA on this DVD 
I just called BenQ and they don't support Linux; so don't buy BenQ

products as they don't support Linux.  In example of DVD/writer it will
become plain CD reader.
Without DMA access the writing to CD will be very slow.

 



I have a Plextor DVD burner in a (MS) Windows machine.  No matter what I 
did, the drive would refuse DMA mode and would default to PIO mode.  In 
Windows, the setting is "use DMA, if available," so I guess it's more of 
a suggestion than a setting.


I had put the DVD burner on it's own IDE controller to try to maximize 
throughput when copying data from the hard disk.  As it turns out, the 
DVD burner will only run in DMA mode when it is a slave to a disk that 
is already in DMA mode.  By making the burner a slave to the hard disk, 
DMA flipped on and all was well.


Maybe there is a Linux equivalent of that problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:37:06 -0400, Matt Randolph wrote:

> Since qpkg is being phased out, I guess the equery way to do this is:
> 
> equery -C l 2> /dev/null | grep / | while read p; do
> touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
> touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
> done

Probably, but I still use qpkg wherever possible.

> find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;

This line is wrong, it should be

> find $PKGDIR -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;

> Right?  qpkg is a lot faster, though.

Yes, by several orders of magnitude, which is why I still use it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Matt Randolph
Matt Randolph wrote:


Neil Bothwick wrote:


Or you can do it automatically with
qpkg -I -nc -v | while read p; do
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
   done
find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;
 



Since qpkg is being phased out, I guess the equery way to do this is:

equery -C l 2> /dev/null | grep / | while read p; do
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/$p.tbz2
   touch --no-create $PKGDIR/All/$(basename $p).tbz2
   done
find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;

Right?  qpkg is a lot faster, though.


Oops!  I guess the -C flag isn't strictly necessary.

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Roy Wright wrote:

> My system has two SATA WD Raptors for hard disks.  I'm
> trying to get DMA working for the DVD writer which is IDE.
> I'd just like to eliminate the occasionaly hiccup when playing
> DVDs.

This makes it more likely that the problem is lack of support for your
IDE chipset in your kernel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] md5sum error

2005-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
glumtail wrote:

HI:

install-x86-universal-2005.0.iso is ok
stage3-authon-xp-2005.0.tar.bz2 and other stages (but not x86) is ok too


If the iso md5 checks then everything on it should be okay.  You could be 
having problems with the cd drive or cd media though.  If you have cdrtools 
then you can test the readability of the cd media like this:

readcd dev=/dev/cdrom sectors=0-$(isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom | grep "Volume size is:" | 
grep -o "[0-9]*$")  f=- | md5sum


I have downloaded stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz2 from several servers but
has the same problem.


Look at the output of "md5sum stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz2".  Do you get the same 
result every time?  You should get 4ea12f4ae446c72164c28aa0b836453e.

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Raymond Lillard
Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Roy Wright wrote:



My system has two SATA WD Raptors for hard disks.  I'm
trying to get DMA working for the DVD writer which is IDE.
I'd just like to eliminate the occasionaly hiccup when playing
DVDs.



This makes it more likely that the problem is lack of support for your
IDE chipset in your kernel.


Joseph,

Please post *ALL* of the output of a dmesg and lspci-v command.
I too believe chipset issues are most likely the problem.

I am at present fighting a similar problem with a 915GM.

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[gentoo-user] sha1sum of cd

2005-08-08 Thread Jorge Almeida
I've downloaded a KNOPPIX cd and burned it onto a cd via cdrecord (k3b having 
recently evolved to
brain death). The command was
cdrecord  dev=/dev/hdc KNOPPIX_V3.9-2005-05-27-EN.iso
The sha1sum of the downloaded image is
51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972, which is what it's supposed to
be.
The cd boots, but something seems wrong ('ls /etc' hangs forever, and
segfaulted once).  So, maybe the burning was not right. I tried
$ cat /dev/hdc|sha1sum
cat: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
8d792624cfe365a1b8ee1e9f06fe3520c28d91cc  -
Then,
$ dd if=/dev/hdc of=knoppix.iso
dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
1425088+0 records in
1425088+0 records out

$ sha1sum knoppix.iso
8d792624cfe365a1b8ee1e9f06fe3520c28d91cc knoppix.iso
Last, I followed Zac Medico's suggestion in the "md5sum error" thread:
$ readcd dev=/dev/hdc sectors=0-$(isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom | grep
"Volume size is:" | grep -o "[0-9]*$")  f=- | sha1sum
Read  speed:  7042 kB/s (CD  40x, DVD  5x).
Write speed:  2818 kB/s (CD  16x, DVD  2x).
Capacity: 356298 Blocks = 712596 kBytes = 695 MBytes = 729 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (1,0,0) disk to file '-'
end:356296
addr:   356296 cnt: 84
Time total: 160.792sec
Read 712592.00 kB at 4431.8 kB/sec.
51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972  -

So, "there is order in this madness".

Can someone explain the meaning of this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
I'm starting to believe that it has something to do with some option in
the kernel that is not enabled.
I just swap the CD/RW Plextor from the machine that is working OK on
kernel 2.6.11 (where DMA is enabled and everything is working, CD/RW,
except eject - but that is another story) into a new New Machine on
kernel-2.6.12

Anyhow, I just put the Plextor CD/RW into my new machine and the DMA was
not not enabled: hdparm /dev/hdc for plextor on working machine.
/dev/hdc:
 IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq=  1 (on)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)

hdparm for plextor on new machine:

/dev/hdd:
 IO_support   =  0 (16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  0 (off)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)

So, I strongly believe it has to do with some setting in the kernel or
diver.  

Another interesting thing is that lshw is not even listing CDROM present
in a new machine for both drives: BenQ and Plextor, even though kernel
detects them correctly.
I did not put BenQ Writer into working machine, I'll try to analyze both
kernel settings first, to see what I'm missing.

-- 
#Joseph
 
> > This makes it more likely that the problem is lack of support for your
> > IDE chipset in your kernel.
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> Please post *ALL* of the output of a dmesg and lspci-v command.
> I too believe chipset issues are most likely the problem.
> 
> I am at present fighting a similar problem with a 915GM.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you remove packages made with --buildpkg?

2005-08-08 Thread Matt Randolph
Neil Bothwick wrote:


find $PKGDIR ! -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;
   



This line is wrong, it should be

 


find $PKGDIR -mtime +1 -exec rm "{}" \;
   



Oops!  I should read more slowly too.

Thanks again, btw.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sha1sum of cd

2005-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
Jorge Almeida wrote:
I've downloaded a KNOPPIX cd and burned it onto a cd via cdrecord (k3b 
having recently evolved to

brain death). The command was
cdrecord  dev=/dev/hdc KNOPPIX_V3.9-2005-05-27-EN.iso
The sha1sum of the downloaded image is
51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972, which is what it's supposed to
be.
The cd boots, but something seems wrong ('ls /etc' hangs forever, and
segfaulted once).  So, maybe the burning was not right. I tried
$ cat /dev/hdc|sha1sum
cat: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
8d792624cfe365a1b8ee1e9f06fe3520c28d91cc  -
Then,
$ dd if=/dev/hdc of=knoppix.iso
dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
1425088+0 records in
1425088+0 records out

$ sha1sum knoppix.iso
8d792624cfe365a1b8ee1e9f06fe3520c28d91cc knoppix.iso
Last, I followed Zac Medico's suggestion in the "md5sum error" thread:
$ readcd dev=/dev/hdc sectors=0-$(isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom | grep
"Volume size is:" | grep -o "[0-9]*$")  f=- | sha1sum
Read  speed:  7042 kB/s (CD  40x, DVD  5x).
Write speed:  2818 kB/s (CD  16x, DVD  2x).
Capacity: 356298 Blocks = 712596 kBytes = 695 MBytes = 729 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (1,0,0) disk to file '-'
end:356296
addr:   356296 cnt: 84
Time total: 160.792sec
Read 712592.00 kB at 4431.8 kB/sec.
51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972  -

So, "there is order in this madness".

Can someone explain the meaning of this?


Jorge Almeida


Well, readcd works well for a cd while dd and cat do not. ;-)

The ls /etc hang and segaufault sounds like a unionfs problem (known bugs).  If 
you do dmesg|tail you will probabably see evidence of a unionfs error/oops.

I've been using a unionfs snapshot from 4/19 for the longest time because I 
have found later versions to be too unstable for my liking.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] setting "using_dma" on a BenQ DVD/RW drive

2005-08-08 Thread Joseph
Problem SOLVED - but another problem pop-up.  Writing to a disk is not
reliable.
I was right, I've missed some setting in the Kernel, 
Device Drivers:
ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL Support
 (x)  Sharing PCI IDE interrupts support
 (x)  Generic PCI IDE Chipset support   
 (x)  VIA82Cxxx Shipset support   #I have this chipset

The first two option must have been the culprit of my problems.
To write two files (44Mb +11Mb =55MB total) to a CDRW it tooks me about
2min.
When I open the drive I can see those two files there 11MB and 44MB
But when I try to copy them back to Hard Drive I get and I/O error

So much if I was relying on these disks for real backup :-/
I would be convinced that the files are there but if I needed them in
emergency I would get an I/O error.

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On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 15:46 -0700, Raymond Lillard wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Roy Wright wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>My system has two SATA WD Raptors for hard disks.  I'm
> >>trying to get DMA working for the DVD writer which is IDE.
> >>I'd just like to eliminate the occasionaly hiccup when playing
> >>DVDs.
> > 
> > 
> > This makes it more likely that the problem is lack of support for your
> > IDE chipset in your kernel.
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> Please post *ALL* of the output of a dmesg and lspci-v command.
> I too believe chipset issues are most likely the problem.
> 
> I am at present fighting a similar problem with a 915GM.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue

2005-08-08 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 09:01:09 +0200
"Arek Murzyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 

> 
> I use udev and Legacy(BSD) with 2.6.12-r6. How to check if I use virtual
> terminal?
> How to switch to Unix98 - I can't find this option in menuconfig.

It's on the same menu, just above the BSD pseudo terms.
The path is - 
Device Drivers -->
Character Devices -->

The Virtual terminal option is there as well.

> Very strange is that root can open eterm without problems, any user (even
> with additional group 'root') can't.
> I see some messages in logs about pam authentication. Could it be related to
> that?
> 

Yes.  I don't run pam, thus can't help with that one.  Pam_login sets up
permissions somewhat dynamically upon a user's login.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sha1sum of cd

2005-08-08 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 00:18 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> I've downloaded a KNOPPIX cd and burned it onto a cd via cdrecord (k3b having 
> recently evolved to
> brain death). The command was
>   cdrecord  dev=/dev/hdc KNOPPIX_V3.9-2005-05-27-EN.iso
> The sha1sum of the downloaded image is
> 51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972, which is what it's supposed to
> be.
> The cd boots, but something seems wrong ('ls /etc' hangs forever, and
> segfaulted once).  So, maybe the burning was not right. 

try burning another at a lower speed.  I sometimes get weird cd errors
from burning too fast for the media / writer / universe.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sha1sum of cd

2005-08-08 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 10:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 00:18 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > I've downloaded a KNOPPIX cd and burned it onto a cd via cdrecord (k3b 
> > having recently evolved to
> > brain death). The command was
> > cdrecord  dev=/dev/hdc KNOPPIX_V3.9-2005-05-27-EN.iso
> > The sha1sum of the downloaded image is
> > 51294cb7439a127efd36f819f636208163988972, which is what it's supposed to
> > be.
> > The cd boots, but something seems wrong ('ls /etc' hangs forever, and
> > segfaulted once).  So, maybe the burning was not right. 
> 
> try burning another at a lower speed.  I sometimes get weird cd errors
> from burning too fast for the media / writer / universe.

oops, I got lost in all the sha1sums...! I didn't realise the first and
the last ones were the same.  Oh well, it may be a knoppix bug then - is
there a knoppix users list?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-08 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 23:40:36 +0200
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> What filesystem(s) do you recommend for use on a notebook?
> I'm looking for a FS that's fairly stable even if all of a
> sudden the power goes away (battery empty) and one, that
> also doesn't (overly) unneccesarily spin up the hard drive.
> 

Any journaling filesystem is going to spin up the drive or keep it spinning.
And unless your drive is one of the 7200 rpm drives, it's still not the energy
hog that the LCD is.

> I don't think that I'll use Reiser4, as it's lacking an
> online fs resizer. At least making the fs bigger should be
> doable while the FS is mounted.
>

You're asking for Enterprise server features for a laptop?

fwiw - I use XFS on my laptop.  It survives fine with power going away.
But, if all the data is in the buffer and the drive is spun down, having the
power die will cause lost data regardless of filesystem.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] sha1sum of cd

2005-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
Iain Buchanan wrote:


oops, I got lost in all the sha1sums...! I didn't realise the first and
the last ones were the same.  Oh well, it may be a knoppix bug then - is
there a knoppix users list?


The problem he reported is really quite typical of unionfs problems.  No doubt, 
many other knoppix users have experienced this.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] Media players

2005-08-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:59:48 +0200
Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > Alexander Skwar wrote:
> >> > It has radio, nice visuals, dvd, etc support. Much
> >>
> >> Since when does Windows Media Player have DVD support? Last time I
> >> looked at it, it couldn't play DVDs by itself.
> > 
> > Yep. It does. You need drivers from your DVD player,
> 
> Ah, so it does not play DVDs. Thanks.
> 
> > but WMP 9/10 do actually 
> > play DVDs. 
> 
> But only with drivers/codecs and after installation of those,
> many other players play DVDs just fine as well.

vlc plays dvd's just fine on windows.



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