Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Prior
On 2005.04.14 13:47:42 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

>   Has any seen/tried to implement some sort of mail-responder to grab
> webpages via email?? eg? set up a procmail recipe that waits on a
> predefined set of message body 

Take a look at http://www4mail.org/

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[gentoo-user] sed: can't read /etc/make.profile/make.defaults: No such file or directory

2005-04-14 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
Hi,

Every time I open up a terminal(gnome-terminal or xterm) I get the
message above. I've read up on the profile changes and made the change
which I think is correct:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 46 Apr  8 08:39 /etc/make.profile ->
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0

What is causing this ?

Thanks.

Regards,
Nelis

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:06:43 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

> But taking my example for a moment, let's say I use dnsmasq.  I need the
> original version of dnsmasq.conf if the new package installed says 
> there's a difference that needs human attention in order to truly 
> determine if human attention is needed.

The original file is installed as with a ._cfgNNN prefix. The patched
dispatch-conf, available from http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68618
has a pretend option. you could call this from a script to see which files
are waiting to be updated. Yes, there would be some work involved in
setting things up, but it would pay dividends in the long run...
especially if you make the system obtuse enough to guarantee your job
security :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATAPI burning doesn't work

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:21:28 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:

> To me, this is really the crux of the issue.  Fortunately, I've never
> had many problems using cdrecord, but Jorg Schilling and the kernel
> developers have very ugly disputes about how the kernel should treat CD
> burners and how cdrecord should get access to them.

I get the impression that Schilling doesn't like Linux and thinks the
kernel should be changed to suit his program.

> I suspect at some
> point someone will fork cdrecord to make a linux specific version, but
> that person is likely to get as many flames as thanks.

That has happened as far as DVD writing is concerned, with growisofs. If
only it handled CDs too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread "帅哥:->代小飞"






Richard Fish wrote:

  帅哥:->代小飞 wrote:

  
  
HI;
I use the HP omin book to install the gentoo linux;
when I use the console in the system, the console's only the 600*480;
I want the change the console to the whool screen(1024*768);
of course ,I can set params in the gurb' configure file
(/boot/gurb.conf),set "vga 1024*768",
when I restart the computer,the consloe can reach the whole screen;But
in this mode ,
I can not use "startx",to use the X Server;
I install the buffer frame gentoo-kernel ;

any answer will be overcome!
thanks!
 


  
  
What graphics chip? (ATI, Intel, ?) (see 'lspci')

What is the error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

-Richard


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I use the Intel-810 vedio card,
no independence graphics chip,!
in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, It say the XServer has runed ;
But ,I only run the console in the buffer frame ,no the XSever running;,
maybe ,If run the console in the bufferframe ,must run the XServer in
another local;?



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Re: [gentoo-user] No MySQL 4.1 Support ?

2005-04-14 Thread Ralph Slooten
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SLES9 = mysql-4.0.18-32.13  ... just checked on one of our servers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Rout
With procmail you can pipe any message to any program you like

Just start the "action" line with the pipe symbol

eg:

:0:
:0
*^Subject.*Script
|myprocessing.sh

You might want some heavy security checking in the script! :-)



On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 13:47 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>   Has any seen/tried to implement some sort of mail-responder to grab
> webpages via email?? eg? set up a procmail recipe that waits on a
> predefined set of message body 
> 
> GRAB http://www.google.com
> 
> and then it will use lynx --dump or curl to grab the page and re-sends
> it back to the original mail sender??
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 09:29 +0200, Chris Prior wrote:
> On 2005.04.14 13:47:42 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> 
> > Has any seen/tried to implement some sort of mail-responder to grab
> > webpages via email?? eg? set up a procmail recipe that waits on a
> > predefined set of message body 
> 
> Take a look at http://www4mail.org/

I'm not looking for a service which has it. I'm looking for some way to
implement it.

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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:07:29AM -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote

> >IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there really is something showstopping
> >holding you to netscrape.
> >*shudder* have not used netscrape for many moons, didn't even know you
> >could still get it?
> >
> Still strong: :: Win: currently 7.2  Lin: currently 7.1
> 
> <... *shudder* ...> :: 7.0 was *massively* better than any previous, 7.1 
> modestly-moderately better than 7.0  (In Win; haven't had Lin-Video up 
> to my standards until just now with Gentoo.)
> 
> I *need* all past email to remain in use, without any chance of loss or 
> error, and I need all new email to go to the same place, and I bloody 
> well intend, if possible, to use *one* tool to access all of it.  Ditto 
> bookmarks, eddresses, etc.. 
> 
> If Netscape/Linux won't share thusly with Netscape/Win, then I will be 
> looking for something else in Linux, or both. Current thought has Opera 
> for both as browser, and I have no email candidate yet -- *MUST* work 
> same in both o/ss!  Oh, and I have at least two mailboxes from two 
> different providers, and Netscape handles both in the same screen.
> 
> If Netscape will work & share, there would have to be a very good reason 
> to change.  That said, I'm certainly willing to learn newer browse/mail 
> tools for real advantage (but not for 'cooless' or 'religious' 
> nonsense), but I absolutely *need* Win & Lin to play nice by using one 
> file-set for both's everything depending on which o/s I've booted into 
> at any particular moment.
> 
> Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
> **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?


> Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!

  Well, since you asked...
  - Netscape up to and including version 4.x was proprietary software
with abysmal spaghetti code.

  - Netscape 6 and onwards *IS* Mozilla.  Specifically, it's an
AOL-branded Mozilla 1.x "distro", complete with AOL's AIM and other
AOL garbage, which you may not want.  The only problem I expect is
that you may not be able to have both installed simultaneously due
to the fact that they have the vast majority of their files the same.

  You should be able to copy stuff back and forth.  They're the same
programs.  I don't see any problems other than copying pure text files
between linux and Windows;  versus .

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[gentoo-user] Password based printing

2005-04-14 Thread Omar
Hi list,
I need to build a printserver inside my gentoo box.
This printserver will serve about 50
printers for about 500 users.  I need to restrict
access to the colored printers with authenticated
users with their usename and password (posibly from
the ldap server which is already running on a separate
machine).
Any idea guys?  Im looking at the cups-pam-ldap
solution, that is cups will use pam authentication and
pam will use ldap modules.  My problem is how to
convince cups to use pam authentication for some
printers. In the cups documentation, there is no
information regarding implementation of pam.
When I build cups from source ./configure --help
shows that pam is enabled by default.
Pam-ldap is already working.
TIA
omar
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[gentoo-user] Evolution 2.0.{3,4} crashes with aspell 0.60.3

2005-04-14 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
I had to install aspell-0.60.3 (~x86) to install Tomboy-0.3.1 (~x86),
and evolution (2.0.3) stopped working: it crashed whenever I wanted to
to write a new mail. Upgrading to 2.0.4 didn't change anything, but
downgrading aspell to 0.50.5 made evolution work again.

Does anyone knows what's happening? And how I could have spell-checcking
back in Tomboy without making evolution crash ?

 Fred

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[gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Antonio Coralles
Is there a pendant to [ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml ]

Code Listing 10.7: Enable reverse path filtering

# for i in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*; do
/bin/echo "1" > $i/rp_filter
done

in sysctl.conf ?

antonio

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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
Thank you for any help.
2.6.11-gentoo-r3
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[gentoo-user] screen is blinking with nvidia

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
Thank you for any help.
2.6.11-gentoo-r3
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[gentoo-user] UTF8, BiDi, urxvt, and irssi, oh my!

2005-04-14 Thread Matan Peled
So I'm trying to get irssi to play along with BiDi Hebrew. I got hebrew working
by setting an UTF8 locale and moving to urxvt - but now irssi doesn't have BiDi
support :?

There is this picture:


And this website:


Which inform me that I'm not the first to try that - however, I haven't been
actually been able to lay my hands on any code that allows me to do that, after
many nights searching Google.

BTW, coredumb on the penguin.org.il picture seems to have been a Gentoo Dev at
some point ... ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Nick Rout wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:02:40 -0400
>Lucien D. wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
>>looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
>>boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
>>MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is. 
>>http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261
>>
>>It looks pretty sweet, and apparently they've released some of their
>>drivers for 2.6 as open source. 
>>http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050412PR204.html
>>
>>
>
>That is good news, but what is really needed is an open source driver for
>the mpeg-2 decoder, and (now) the "mpeg-4 accelerator" - as you say,
>whatever that is!
>
>  
>
>>one drawback is only a single pci slot, so u couldn't have more than
>>one tuner. but if u wanted to divide between a backend and frontend
>>this would make a great frontend.
>>
>>
>
>you can put in a riser and get two pci slots, which are then parallel to the 
>mainboard and your case can still be slimline. (at least you can on
>the m series boards, i assume this one will be the same in that respect.
>
>  
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>
from what i heard (an i have been a Mini-Itx Follower for over 5 years
now) is that Via had just a few days ago released all their drivers for
the Mini-ITX chipsets under open source licenses (including the graphics
acceleration) to boost linux support for its boards in the embedded/PVR
market.

This means that the Mini-ITX's should soon have very good (if not
excellent) open source support, but currently we have to wait for all
these opensource drivers to be implemented by the community (they were
released only a few days ago, not enough 
time to gather volunteers to develop/cleanup the code, merge with linux
kernel etc...)

Here is the news item regarding the drivers:
 
http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=508&mode=&order=0&thold=0


Also note that you can get PCI riser cards which will give you two PCI
slots with the mini-itx (there exist ones which even give three slots,
but these are rare (and quite pricy) )

And there is in the works an EPIA-specific linux distro (with all the
drivers/kernel patches already in there)  which is in beta (and i think
its based on gentoo, not sure, better check). Its known as /epiOS. /If
you have to have support for the hardware now (before the VIA drivers
become stable and merged into the general kernel tree) i would suggest
to try that distro.


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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread Ognjen Bezanov

>2. get a wifi card and see if your neighbors have high speed.
>
>  
>
My method, and it works a treat, my neighbors have very fast internet, :-) 

Eventually I agreed with them that during the night when they are not
using it I can use it for downloading. As such most of my emerging and
linux iso Torrenting is done overnight.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/14/05, Ognjen Bezanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> And there is in the works an EPIA-specific linux distro (with all the
> drivers/kernel patches already in there)  which is in beta (and i think
> its based on gentoo, not sure, better check). Its known as /epiOS. /If
> you have to have support for the hardware now (before the VIA drivers
> become stable and merged into the general kernel tree) i would suggest
> to try that distro.

Thanks for the pointer. The Epiaspecific distro looks quite young at
this point. Total number of posts is in the dozens. None the less
views are getting high so there seems to be some interest.

http://www.epios.net/

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.

Hi all,

A few days ago when doing an 'emerge -puD world' i got the message to
upgrade to the 2005.0 profile. I changed the link to make.profile to fit
the 2005.0 profile but since then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with
the following error:

---
Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6" have
been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by "net-firewall/ipsec-tools-0.5-r1"
[ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild net-firewall/ipsec-tools-0.5-r1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.
---

I've been playing around with the package.keywords file, but that
doesn't seem to have the solution :( Maybe unmerging ipsec-tools would
help, but i need racoon for the connection to the box :(

Does someone know how to fix this?

Thanx in advance,
-Arjen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/13/05, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 2005 10:01 AM, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Here's a good starting reference that might help:
> > > http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > Thanks Dave. Lots and lots of info in that article. MythTV holds up
> > pretty well from a quick reading.
> 
> Don't discount freevo yet. Freevo is the little cousin of mythtv, no
> doubt that it's still lags behind myth but again, depends on how you
> want to use the box. I find Freevo to be suitable for my needs.
> 
> I may go take a look at mythtv later when I get the chance/time.
> 

Sure. Absolutely. I'm not discounting anything at the moment.

1) Probable first step - Get a Hauppauge (PVR-250 probably) stick it
in a desktop machine and see what happens with all this software. for
instance I installed MythTV but it wouldn't run as it needed mysql
running. I know nothing of mysql so I need to work through some stuff
like that.

2) In parallel look at whether to do a dedicated recorder (vs. using
an existing machine) and look at how to do remote playback. Remote
playback could be modified XBoxs (or maybe Playstations or something
else) or it could be some sort of cute little box built around Epia or
something else.

These are just my thoughts for now. As I continue to read they change.

Cheers,
Mark

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RE: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Dave Nebinger
> Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
> looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
> boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
> MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is.
> http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261
> 
> It looks pretty sweet, and apparently they've released some of their
> drivers for 2.6 as open source.
> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050412PR204.html
> 
> one drawback is only a single pci slot, so u couldn't have more than
> one tuner. but if u wanted to divide between a backend and frontend
> this would make a great frontend.

And since we're still throwing links around, here's one from tech report
that reviews some tuner cards:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/tuner-comparo/index.x?pg=1

Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/13/05, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 18:02 -0400, Lucien D. wrote:
> > Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
> > looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
> > boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
> > MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is.
> > http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261
> >
> 
> Just bear in mind that the EPIA M10K at 1Ghz CPu does not have enough
> grunt to do the PVR thingy. It does however play DVD and Divx fine with
> ~ 20% for DVD and ~60-80% for Divx (CPU usage)
> 
> So getting a haugepage is definately a need if you want to offload the
> processing to do encoding
> 

On a related issue I'm concerned about noise. I was following links
for the Epia SP main board and ran into this one:

http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=58

At the bottom of the page I find: "However, the cpu fan has not
changed and is still the 25dba fan that has been used for a very long
time. This is rather dissappointing considering the nearly silent Mini
Mac recently announced - considering the low power CPU it seems a
shame that the CPU cooling solution isn't drastically quieter.
However, compared to some computers, which are normally 35dba or
higher, the EPIA may seem quite quiet."

Seems to me if one of these is going to sit in my Home Theater stack I
want it silent, or as close to it as possible.

It does raise the idea of using a Mac Mini running Gentoo to do some
of this. Seems to me that the cost of the Mini-ITX mainboard, a case,
memory, and some sort of hard drive is likely to approach $500, isn't
it? Maybe I'm being pessimistic.

I have a sound meter. Probably time to drag it out!

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Edward Catmur
> I changed the link to make.profile to fit
> the 2005.0 profile but since then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with
> the following error:
> 
> ---
> Calculating world dependencies |
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6" have
> been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
> - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
> - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)

Which profile are you using (full path)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
John J. Foster wrote:
Good afternoon,
I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
to support Gentoo) if that would work.
My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
time:-)
All help and guidance appreciated,
Thanks,
John
 

We had a chat about that recently: 
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&threadm=3OWtT-3nh-13%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522system%2Bwith%2Bno%2Bnetwork%2Bneeds%2Bupdates%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3D3OWtT-3nh-13%2540gated-at.bofh.it%26rnum%3D1

Building from stage1 is an interesting exercise although I wonder if the 
difference between a tailored stage1 install and a stage3 install would 
be very drastic (speed-wise, size-wise or user experience-wise). I 
always did it from stage1 so I don't have any experience of other installs.

Eugene.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.
Whoa, this suprises even myself, am I messing things up here (its not my
only box)? Anyway, this is the path:

ls -al /etc/make.profile
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 52 Apr  8 22:30 /etc/make.profile ->
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/2.4

I expected it to be 2.6? Now I'm even more confused :(

I thought I changed that to be 2.6.

Arjen Buwalda
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> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Catmur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: donderdag 14 april 2005 15:19
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems
> 
> > I changed the link to make.profile to fit the 2005.0 
> profile but since 
> > then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with the following error:
> > 
> > ---
> > Calculating world dependencies |
> > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6" 
> > have been masked.
> > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to 
> complete your
> > request:
> > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
> > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
> > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)
> 
> Which profile are you using (full path)?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:

> Is there a pendant

A pendant?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

>   Has any seen/tried to implement some sort of mail-responder to grab
> webpages via email?? eg? set up a procmail recipe that waits on a
> predefined set of message body
>
> GRAB http://www.google.com
>
> and then it will use lynx --dump or curl to grab the page and re-sends
> it back to the original mail sender??

Sounds like a great way to send spam.


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[gentoo-user] Portage files' layout changes

2005-04-14 Thread A. Khattri

I remember many moons ago, that the files that Portage used under /var
were re-organized and in some cases paths changed. Can anyone remember the
exact changes? I want to clean out any old files that might be left
hanging around from earlier Portage versions.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.
> Whoa, this suprises even myself, am I messing things up here 
> (its not my only box)? Anyway, this is the path:
> 
> ls -al /etc/make.profile
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 52 Apr  8 22:30 /etc/make.profile ->
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/2.4

Changed it to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/
And things seem to work again now!

Thanx Edward for bringing me to the solution :)

Ciao
-Arjen

 
> I expected it to be 2.6? Now I'm even more confused :(
> 
> I thought I changed that to be 2.6.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Catmur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: donderdag 14 april 2005 15:19
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems
> > 
> > > I changed the link to make.profile to fit the 2005.0
> > profile but since
> > > then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with the following error:
> > > 
> > > ---
> > > Calculating world dependencies |
> > > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy 
> ">=sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6" 
> > > have been masked.
> > > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
> > complete your
> > > request:
> > > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
> > > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
> > > - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)
> > 
> > Which profile are you using (full path)?
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Buwalda, A. wrote:
> Whoa, this suprises even myself, am I messing things up here (its not my
> only box)? Anyway, this is the path:
> 
> ls -al /etc/make.profile
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 52 Apr  8 22:30 /etc/make.profile ->
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/2.4
relink it to:
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/
with :
# cd /etc
# rm make.profile
# ln -s ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/ make.profile

search for "gentoo cascade profiles" for more information on how
profiles are used with new version of portage.
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread Khan
John J. Foster wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
> Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
> My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
> net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
> to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
> speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
> 
> My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
> not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
> to support Gentoo) if that would work.
> 
> My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
> to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
> time:-)

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATAPI burning doesn't work

2005-04-14 Thread Trey Gruel
> I get the impression that Schilling doesn't like Linux and thinks the
> kernel should be changed to suit his program.

from what i've read, he thinks that solaris is the greatest thing
since sliced bread and that all oses should operate exactly the same
as solaris..  he also thinks that all devices should be referenced the
same as scsi devices in solaris - bus/target/lun naming instead of
/dev/cdrw (or whatever device you want to access)

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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread moonspollo
I think your laptop' LCD can not extended auto atomically. Where did bought you laptop in China? How big of your LCD?
"˧¸ç:->´úС·É" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Richard Fish wrote: 
˧¸ç:->´úС·É wrote:

  
HI;
I use the HP omin book to install the gentoo linux;
when I use the console in the system, the console's only the 600*480;
I want the change the console to the whool screen(1024*768);
of course ,I can set params in the gurb' configure file
(/boot/gurb.conf),set "vga 1024*768",
when I restart the computer,the consloe can reach the whole screen;But
in this mode ,
I can not use "startx",to use the X Server;
I install the buffer frame gentoo-kernel ;

any answer will be overcome!
thanks!
 


What graphics chip? (ATI, Intel, ?) (see 'lspci')

What is the error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

-Richard


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  I use the Intel-810 vedio card,no independence graphics chip,!in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, It say the XServer has runed ;But ,I only run the console in the buffer frame ,no the XSever running;,maybe ,If run the console in the bufferframe ,must run the XServer in another local;?begin:vcardfn;quoted-printable:=E4=BB=A3 =E5=B0=8F=E9=A3=9En;quoted-printable;quoted-printable:=E5=B0=8F=E9=A3=9E;=E4=BB=A3email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]tel;work:65611x-mozilla-html:FALSEversion:2.1end:vcard
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Matan Peled
A. Khattri wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:
>>Is there a pendant
> A pendant?

penÂdant also penÂdent
n.
1. Something suspended from something else, especially an ornament or
piece of jewelry attached to a necklace or bracelet.
2. A hanging lamp or chandelier.
3. A sculptured ornament suspended from a vaulted Gothic roof or
ceiling.
4. One of a matched pair; a companion piece.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread moonspollo
I think you can LCD's change resolution to 1024*768. I got a problem that totaly the same with you. My solution is change LCD's resolution.moonspollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think your laptop' LCD can not extended auto atomically. Where did bought you laptop in China? How big of your LCD?
"˧¸ç:->´úС·É" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Richard Fish wrote: 
˧¸ç:->´úС·É wrote:

  
HI;
I use the HP omin book to install the gentoo linux;
when I use the console in the system, the console's only the 600*480;
I want the change the console to the whool screen(1024*768);
of course ,I can set params in the gurb' configure file
(/boot/gurb.conf),set "vga 1024*768",
when I restart the computer,the consloe can reach the whole screen;But
in this mode ,
I can not use "startx",to use the X Server;
I install the buffer frame gentoo-kernel ;

any answer will be overcome!
thanks!
 


What graphics chip? (ATI, Intel, ?) (see 'lspci')

What is the error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

-Richard


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  I use the Intel-810 vedio card,no independence graphics chip,!in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, It say the XServer has runed ;But ,I only run the console in the buffer frame ,no the XSever running;,maybe ,If run the console in the bufferframe ,must run the XServer in another local;?begin:vcardfn;quoted-printable:=E4=BB=A3 =E5=B0=8F=E9=A3=9En;quoted-printable;quoted-printable:=E5=B0=8F=E9=A3=9E;=E4=BB=A3email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]tel;work:65611x-mozilla-html:FALSEversion:2.1end:vcard


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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread moonspollo
do you have a QQ
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread Shawn Singh
Man...I think Gentoo and FreeBSD have the best docs...you can find
darn near anything in them :)

On 4/14/05, Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John J. Foster wrote:
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
> > Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
> > My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
> > net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
> > to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
> > speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
> >
> > My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
> > not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
> > to support Gentoo) if that would work.
> >
> > My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
> > to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
> > time:-)
> 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users
> 
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[gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Kiawud
I'm looking to create some LVM2 volumes during an installation of
2005.0.  However, the gentoo instructions indicate that the LVM2
application on the 2005.0 LiveCD is dynamic built against libraries in
/usr (which I intend to put on one of the LVM volumes).

To get around this, the instruction suggests installing the latest
LVM2 installation or the 2.0.33 (not -r1) which they say is statically
built.

However, it looks like 2.0.33-r1 is the latest 'stable' version
available.  Plus, if I were to install (any version), would I have to
specifically request the 'static' version (ie: USE="static" emerge
lvm2).

Thoughts?

TIA,

-Hani

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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread Kiawud
I have the HP Omnibook 500 ... I can post/send you my grub and
xorg.conf files if you think it would help.  If I remember, I'm using
'vesafb' for the initial boot and then set xorg.conf to use the
'radeon' driver.

-Hani

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[gentoo-user] Pointers on wine and Quicken?

2005-04-14 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Is there a howto or other quick resource for setting up wine to run Quicken?
I've got Quicken 2003 deluxe under Win4Lin on an old box and I'd prefer
wine; however, I've been daunted by the complexity of wine and not encouraged
by my first few fumbling steps (I couldn't save a backup -- not a good thing,
or open a QIF file).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pointers on wine and Quicken?

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
Kevin,
   A few choices:

1) Just stay with Win4Lin. The highest degree of Windows compatibility

2) Wine proper - I'm not sure anyone has been that successful with this.

3) Crossover Office - Purportedly the newest version now runs Q2005
although I haven't tried it. The lists are showing people who say it
works and people who say they cannot install. I'm waiting for the dust
to settle. CXO supposedly also runs iTunes but I couldn't get sound.
(Didn't try that hard...) I've run Q2004 on an older version of CXO
for a while and while it works there have been some problems, such as
getting reports.

   Good luck whatever way you go.

Cheers,
Mark

On 4/14/05, Kevin O'Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a howto or other quick resource for setting up wine to run Quicken?
> I've got Quicken 2003 deluxe under Win4Lin on an old box and I'd prefer
> wine; however, I've been daunted by the complexity of wine and not encouraged
> by my first few fumbling steps (I couldn't save a backup -- not a good thing,
> or open a QIF file).
> 
> ++ kevin
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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Walter,
Thank you. (and BTW I like your sig!)
Walter Dnes wrote:
   Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
**and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?

Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!
   

   Well, since you asked...
 - Netscape up to and including version 4.x was proprietary software
   with abysmal spaghetti code.
 - Netscape 6 and onwards *IS* Mozilla.  Specifically, it's an
   AOL-branded Mozilla 1.x "distro", complete with AOL's AIM and other
   AOL garbage, which you may not want.  The only problem I expect is
   that you may not be able to have both installed simultaneously due
   to the fact that they have the vast majority of their files the same.
 You should be able to copy stuff back and forth.  They're the same
programs.  I don't see any problems other than copying pure text files
between linux and Windows;  versus .
I fired up Moz under Lin, and read some stuff about migration.  Moz says 
that you CANNOT (their emphasis) share the same set of files between 
Mozilla & Netscape, so it seems that you're right about copying.  I 
suppose that I can figure out a shell-script or two for lin-start & 
lin-stop to keep sync'd, but what a pain.  OTOH, it does look like I can 
use a several-step process to permanently move all the N stuff to M, and 
just use M for both O/Ss.  I suppose that I need to arrange a test of M 
& its mail-client, so I'll know if I can accept the change-over.  I'm 
thinking about it.

As for AIM, I don't use chat currently, may in the future.  I am not 
concerned about open/proprietary, as long as everything works right.  I 
don't know if AIM itself is supposed to have problems -- I don't read 
about it/them yet, since I am not using; once/if I ever decide to use, 
I'll find the then-current data to decide with.

Thank You Again!,
robert.
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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
And this message has just exactly *what* to do with the thread you 
posted it in?

Not only is this very impolite, but even from your point of view it is 
bad  ::
1) some people will skip anything in a given thread that they are no 
longer reading, so *your* post maybe gets missed by the very people who 
could answer your question,
2) since you didn't even rename the subject, no one knows what the stink 
you're asking about, and,
3) what os, version, hardware (ALL!), how did you get there, etc., etc., 
etc...

Ok, you're maybe a newbie, so you gotta learn.  Lessons started.  Do better.
Catch ya' later.
rgh.
Al Bayrouni wrote:
Hello all,
I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
Thank you for any help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:19:01 -0600, Kiawud wrote:

> However, it looks like 2.0.33-r1 is the latest 'stable' version
> available.  Plus, if I were to install (any version), would I have to
> specifically request the 'static' version (ie: USE="static" emerge
> lvm2).

No, the static binaries are the default, to avoid any problems with /usr
not being available. The USE flag affecting this is nolvmstatic, which you
use to turn OFF the static compilation.

As for getting the latest version, put "sys-fs/lvm2 ~" in
/etc/portage/package.keywords.


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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Byron Pezan
Nick Rout wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:58:39 -0400
>Byron Pezan wrote:
>
>
>
>  
>
>>FYI here is an lspci output from a Dell Centrino machine.  The Broadcom
>>entry at the bottom is the builtin wireless card, which incidentally
>>only works with NDISWrapper.
>>
>>
>
>AFAIK the Centrino branding requires Intel/PRO wireless stuff, not
>broadcom. How does your machine get a centrino sticker? or is broadcom a 
>rebadged intel wireless set? or has the standard been relaxed?
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino
>
>http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/
>
>[snip]
>  
>
>>Controller (rev 20)
>>:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g
>>Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
>>
>>Byron
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>  
>
I don't know that I have a good answer to that, a quick Google search
did not reveal much.  I believe that in the early days of Centrino Intel
was forced to partner with other WIFI chip makers to meet their release
date.  Which may have set the standard lower than was expected from the
very beginning.  It may also be as simple as the chassis being
pre-stickered Centrino and assembled with a Broadcom chip due to a back
order on the Intel chips.

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[gentoo-user] reinstall troubles

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Smith
im having to do a reinstall on my laptop and im using the new 2005.0
version, however when it comes to the chroot part it says i dont have
the command env-update, this is the first time i have ran into this
and i have followed the handbook exactly.  it is something im doing
wrong or is just something messed up?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Password based printing

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
You'll get better responce if you *start* a thread rather than burying 
your request in another thread which some people are already squelching.
It is also impolite, and manners do count.
Lastly, it makes your message easier to find & recognize.
rgh.

Omar wrote:
Hi list,
I need to build a printserver inside my gentoo box.
This printserver will serve about 50
printers for about 500 users.  I need to restrict
access to the colored printers with authenticated
users with their usename and password (posibly from
the ldap server which is already running on a separate
machine).
Any idea guys?  Im looking at the cups-pam-ldap
solution, that is cups will use pam authentication and
pam will use ldap modules.  My problem is how to
convince cups to use pam authentication for some
printers. In the cups documentation, there is no
information regarding implementation of pam.
When I build cups from source ./configure --help
shows that pam is enabled by default.
Pam-ldap is already working.
TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
A. Khattri wrote:
Sounds like a great way to send spam.
Or worse.  Why is this needed?
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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Travis Rousseau
On 4/12/05, Charles Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/12/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400
> > Charles Pittman wrote:
> > 
> > > > Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that
> would
> > > explain the wireless on/off button on the left-had side of my laptop
> (which 
> > > I can't use, because no program recognizes any of those hotkeys).
> > 
> > No pentium m processors have integrated wireless. the pentium m is a
> > cpu.
> > 
> > However centrino machines have built in wireless, its part of the 
> > centrino spec. centrino also uses pentium m. but just because your
> > machine has a pentium-m cpu, doesn't make it centrino.
> > 
> > lspci should tell you if you have a wireless chipset in your machine. If
> it has a centrino sticker, then it should have wireless.
> > 
> > Hope that clears up the confusion.
> > 
> > --
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Ha I was told it would cost extra to get a computer without windows.
(somethin like $80)

I think windows devalues the computers

Travis R.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Yuo know, I just *LOVE* the idea of Xboxs running Linux -- remember who 
they came from?   Payback's a [deleted].  <*very* evil grin!>
rgh. 

Mark Knecht wrote:

 

2) In parallel look at whether to do a dedicated recorder (vs. using
an existing machine) and look at how to do remote playback. Remote
playback could be modified XBoxs (or maybe Playstations or something
else) or it could be some sort of cute little box built around Epia or
something else.
These are just my thoughts for now. As I continue to read they change.
Cheers,
Mark
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[gentoo-user] dvdrip (udev?) question

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   This may be a dvdrip item but I thought I'd try here first as I'm
not that sure about udev. my laptop is running ck-sources. I have a
single CD-RW/DVD-RW drive in the machine. DVD rip asks for the /dev
device for the dvd. Not knowing what to answer I gave it what I gave
k3b which is /dev/cdrom/cdrom0. dvdrip's setup seems to find this and
seems happy. At this point I try ripping a dvd as a test. It proceeds
along for a while and then I get back and error dialog stating:

ob 'Probing - title #16' failed.

Executed command: dr_exec tcprobe -H 10 -i /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 -T 16 &&
echo DVDRIP_SUCCESS; dr_exec dvdxchap -t 16 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
2>/dev/null

Last output was:


libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[tcprobe] DVD image/device
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 for reading
(probe_dvd.c) failed to open DVD /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
[tcprobe] failed to probe source
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Chapter 01
CHAPTER02=00:00:58.934
CHAPTER02NAME=Chapter 02

So apparently /dev/cdrom/cdrom0 was not the right thing to give in
this case? In my case I have no parallel /dev/dvds entries so I don't
know what to use.

Is this likely to be a Gentoo issue, or a udev setup issue, or a dvdrip issue?

A quick Google of the error message only came up with one unanswered
post. (I think...)

thanks in advance,
Mark

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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Travis Rousseau wrote:

Ha I was told it would cost extra to get a computer without windows.
(somethin like $80)
Yes, *WHY* does it cost more without WindoZZZe?  (Answer: Because 
MonopolSoft threatens vendors into doing this.) 
I suggest NOT buying from vendors that do this. 
If Linux ever reeally becomes *important* in the $$market, they'll pay 
for that behavior.
Hopefully, that will feed back to MS & hurt them even more.

I think windows devalues the computers
Travis R.
(I collect cool sigs etc...)
Mordjah on LQO (LinuxQuestions.org):
.Computers are like Air Conditioners.. they stop working when you 
open windows.

Buy4now!,
rgh.

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[gentoo-user] Re: gaim doesn't compile - ld error finding "SM" library

2005-04-14 Thread Francis Barton
Daniel - thanks for your tip. I was busy finding out the same thing at
the same time you posted. I got there in the end.

Francisco - thank you for your suggestion, this indeed proved to be the
problem. I just created a symlink in /usr/lib :

libSM.so -> libSM.so.6.0

and everything was happy again.

Francis

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Re: (OT) [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Neil Bothwick wrote:
[sig:]  
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Number 9: Political science

Wrong!! :: "Political Science" is the study of how/why things happens *in* politics...  
You know, like studying how an AIDS virus works? 
<**Very** evil grin!!>

I *LIKE* you rolling-sig -- are these from 'noseguy,' by any chance?
Where-the-futz do you get all these anyway?
I love 'em!...
Thanks! (and keep 'em coming!),
robert g hays.

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[gentoo-user] how to subscribe but get no mail

2005-04-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry to post this here but I've already contacted the listserver with
the info address and faq address.  Neither of those sources have any
info about this.

I want to subscribe here but get no messages delivered.  The
subscription would be so as to enable posting thru news.gmane.org's
mail to news gateway.

Is there some way to set such a parameter?

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Re: (OT) [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:02 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:

> I *LIKE* you rolling-sig -- are these from 'noseguy,' by any chance?
> Where-the-futz do you get all these anyway?

No one source. I have collected them over the last twelve years. Some are
very out of date now, I really ought to clean the list out.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to subscribe but get no mail

2005-04-14 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:09, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Sorry to post this here but I've already contacted the listserver with
> the info address and faq address.  Neither of those sources have any
> info about this.
>
> I want to subscribe here but get no messages delivered.  The
> subscription would be so as to enable posting thru news.gmane.org's
> mail to news gateway.
>
> Is there some way to set such a parameter?

# Get off the main list
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:
>
>> Is there a pendant
>
> A pendant?
>
>
You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread James Hiscock
> You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...

...hmmm... Dictionary.com says something else entirely:


pen·dant1 also pen·dent( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pndnt)
n. 
1. Something suspended from something else, especially an ornament or
piece of jewelry attached to a necklace or bracelet.
2. A hanging lamp or chandelier. 
3. A sculptured ornament suspended from a vaulted Gothic roof or ceiling. 


...but answering your question anyway:

net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1

...should do what you're asking for (and it's commented out in the
default sysctl.conf...)

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[gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Ok, is:
   kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4
the same as:
kernel-2.6.11.4
plus/minus the Gentoo-specific patches?
I'm dying here fighting to get my ATI all-in-wonder agp8x Dual-Screen 
working under 'gento-r4 with Win4Lin. (will need 3D, so using ATI's 
drivers.)

I got the ATI & Gentoo to play nice (something I never could do in SuSE 
9.0Pro, which is the main reason why I came to Gentoo) --  by simply 
copying a different xorg.conf file into /etc/X11 I can have 
single-screen, wide-screen, or dual-head simply for the cost of backing 
out to console, issue one (shell-script-ed) command, & startx again.

But!, with the gentoo-r4 / Win4Lin patched kernel (with the 2.6.11.5 
patches), if I go for widescreen, x won't even start.  For dually, it 
starts, but insists on sending my 10x7 14-inch monitor a clone of the 
12x10 17-inch'er, which needless to say!, the 14 don't like, and it's a 
clone anyway, which is absolutely useless to me.

If anybody has any clues on this, great & Thank You, but for now, the 
question is, so I can decide about using a kernel.org kernel, are the 
two above equivalent as I asked.

Thanks Much!,
Robert G. Hays
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Re: (OT) [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:02 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
*LIKE* you rolling-sig -- are these from 'noseguy,' by any chance?
Where-the-futz do you get all these anyway?
   

No one source. I have collected them over the last twelve years. Some are
very out of date now, I really ought to clean the list out.
Not that I've seen yet... ;)
rgh.

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[gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Tom Moyer
I may just not be seeing an easy way to do this, so I figured I would
ask if any one had any ideas.

I currently have 3 hard drives in my computer:
hda - Windows XP - 40 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdc - nothing (I think it might be dead) - 30 Gig

I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
the following:
hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)

what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?

I know I would have to edit /etc/fstab, but I'm not sure how to go
about changing my Grub setup to handle the new drive setup.

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
James Hiscock wrote:
You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...
   

...hmmm... Dictionary.com says something else entirely:

pen·dant1 also pen·dent( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pndnt)
n. 
1. Something suspended from something else, especially an ornament or
piece of jewelry attached to a necklace or bracelet.
2. A hanging lamp or chandelier. 
3. A sculptured ornament suspended from a vaulted Gothic roof or ceiling. 


'Scuse me, this must be the English class -- I thought I was in the 
Computer Science / Political Science Building...  Sorry.  

Enough already please, everybody?
rgh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Post-script:& if I do go to the kernel.org kernel, what is going to 
change, and what will I have to do about it/them, and what, if anything, 
is just going to --stay-- broke/different?

Thanks again!,
rgh.
Robert G. Hays wrote:
Ok, is:
   kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4
the same as:
kernel-2.6.11.4
plus/minus the Gentoo-specific patches?
I'm dying here fighting to get my ATI all-in-wonder agp8x Dual-Screen 
working under 'gento-r4 with Win4Lin. (will need 3D, so using ATI's 
drivers.)

I got the ATI & Gentoo to play nice (something I never could do in 
SuSE 9.0Pro, which is the main reason why I came to Gentoo) --  by 
simply copying a different xorg.conf file into /etc/X11 I can have 
single-screen, wide-screen, or dual-head simply for the cost of 
backing out to console, issue one (shell-script-ed) command, & startx 
again.

But!, with the gentoo-r4 / Win4Lin patched kernel (with the 2.6.11.5 
patches), if I go for widescreen, x won't even start.  For dually, it 
starts, but insists on sending my 10x7 14-inch monitor a clone of the 
12x10 17-inch'er, which needless to say!, the 14 don't like, and it's 
a clone anyway, which is absolutely useless to me.

If anybody has any clues on this, great & Thank You, but for now, the 
question is, so I can decide about using a kernel.org kernel, are the 
two above equivalent as I asked.

Thanks Much!,
Robert G. Hays 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Kashani
Tom Moyer wrote:

I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
the following:
hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)
what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?
I know I would have to edit /etc/fstab, but I'm not sure how to go
about changing my Grub setup to handle the new drive setup.
The easiest method might be to shutdown the machine. Attach your drives 
so that the Gentoo drives are on separate channels and the right device 
names, assuming they aren't already. Then boot the LiveCD. Make sure 
that the 120 drive is hda and so forth. Mount /dev/hda and edit the 
fstab on it to reflect the new setup. Reinstall grub or lilo and run the 
setup again so that you are sure your boot loader is installed and in 
the right place. Edit your grub.conf or lilo.conf as needed to make sure 
your kernel will get booted from the right partition.

That should be pretty much it.
kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Tom Moyer wrote:
I may just not be seeing an easy way to do this, so I figured I would
ask if any one had any ideas.
I currently have 3 hard drives in my computer:
hda - Windows XP - 40 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdc - nothing (I think it might be dead) - 30 Gig
I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
the following:
hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)
what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?
I know I would have to edit /etc/fstab, but I'm not sure how to go
about changing my Grub setup to handle the new drive setup.
Thanks,
Tom
More info might get better answers than mine...
Where is grub installed?
Is there something else on ide1 with the possibly dead 30G?
The 30G *is* on ide1, end/master connection, right?
Why doo you thing the 30G is dead.
What kind of Internet connection do you have?
Trying without those, and assuming a certain amount of knowledge on your 
part from where you're at right now...

Go into linux, start grub (the program), make an install floppydisk, 
shut computer off, swap hda & hdb, insert grub boot floppy, turn 
computer on & go to bios setup and insure that floppy is set to boot 
before hda, and install grub to MBR (or /boot) of new 120G hda.

If want /boot, be sure to do fdisk or (my favorite for this) cfdisk & 
write down where your /boot ( or / ) is before above.

Of course, read & maybe even print (horror-of-horrors...) the man-grub 
or grub docos or whatever before starting above.

It might even, after reading grub data, to simply install grub to 
mbr/boot of hdb from current setup. (?)

best,
rgh.
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[gentoo-user] deltup cycling

2005-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi,

Sometimes I see such cycling:

emerge -fDu xyz

- get delta
- pack new dist file
- new dist file has wrong md5 (size?)
- go to "get delta" for the same file

Such cycling can eat musch more time/bytestream rather whole
file downloading.

What are the reasons of bad new archive?
How to avoid the cycling?

Andrew
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Trey Gruel
On 4/14/05, Robert G. Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, is:
> kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4
> the same as:
>  kernel-2.6.11.4
> plus/minus the Gentoo-specific patches?

possibly not.  the gentoo-sources package has its own revision numbers
(the -r* bit).  that's not saying that the changes in the
vanilla-sources (kernel.org with no extra patches) aren't included,
but there's no real association between vanilla 2.6.11.4 and gentoo
2.6.11-r4 aside from the fact that they're both based on the
kernel.org 2.6.11 release.  looking at the patches included in
gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r6 (latest stable gentoo-sources), it includes
the patches for 2.6.11.6, but there the numbers aren't guaranteed to
match up like that.

disclaimer:  i'm not one of the maintainers for gentoo-sources.  they
could have made a decision to hold revisions of gentoo-sources for the
new "stable" patches that greg kh maintains in order to keep the
revision numbers matching.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Tom Moyer wrote:

>I may just not be seeing an easy way to do this, so I figured I would
>ask if any one had any ideas.
>
>I currently have 3 hard drives in my computer:
>hda - Windows XP - 40 Gig
>hdb - Gentoo - 120 Gig
>hdc - nothing (I think it might be dead) - 30 Gig
>
>I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
>installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
>the following:
>hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
>hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
>hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)
>
>what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?
>  
>

Do you have a /boot partition, and if so, is it on (current) hda or hdb?

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Re: ATI drivers

2005-04-14 Thread James
Richard Fish  asmallpond.org> writes:

> 
> James wrote:
> 
> > You certainly seem quite knowledgable on these issues. Do have time
> > for to help me:
> 
> I'll try.  The real question is, can I do it without posting a 27-page
> message to the list again,as I have been known to do! :->
> 


OK, I think I've got it. I have some work-work to do before I tackle this.

If I get stuck, I can either post a new thread or send private email. Your
explanations are very clear.

Give me a few days to get caught up, a few more days to give this a whirl!

I'll let you know how it goes.

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with libhistory.so.4 after update -- okay again

2005-04-14 Thread Marten Karl
Hello.

> > > actual packages the starting message of apache says, that libphp5.so has
> > > a problem to load libhistory.so.4.
> > 
> > I had this problem a while back. re-emerge mod_php.
> 
> I tried this:
>  emerge mod_php
> This emerged mdo_php and two other packages. But mod_php runs into an error 
> due to declaration problems like:
>  /usr/include/packer.h:28: error: syntax error before "uint32_t"
> and so on.

I have the combination up again. I have done a reemerge of cracklib, which 
owns packer.h. This does not help. After some investigations I switch the 
mof_php related line in the portage.mask files. Then I was able to compile 
the system and after compilation to start apache (and php). :-)

BUT: I do not know whether it was a good idea to switch that line in 
portage.mask. If you try the same, be aware of this.

With best regards
Marten
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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
> >  
> >
> from what i heard (an i have been a Mini-Itx Follower for over 5 years
> now) is that Via had just a few days ago released all their drivers for
> the Mini-ITX chipsets under open source licenses (including the graphics
> acceleration) to boost linux support for its boards in the embedded/PVR
> market.
> 
> This means that the Mini-ITX's should soon have very good (if not
> excellent) open source support, but currently we have to wait for all
> these opensource drivers to be implemented by the community (they were
> released only a few days ago, not enough 
> time to gather volunteers to develop/cleanup the code, merge with linux
> kernel etc...)

AFAIK this is not completely correct, as the mpeg-2 decoder is still a
binary module with no available source code. This may apply to other
parts of the hardware too.

>From my point of view with a 1G-1.2G processor, the hardware mpeg-2
decoding is a key component, leave it out of the open bundle and its
very annoying.

> 
> Here is the news item regarding the drivers:
>  
> http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=508&mode=&order=0&thold=0
> 
> 
> Also note that you can get PCI riser cards which will give you two PCI
> slots with the mini-itx (there exist ones which even give three slots,
> but these are rare (and quite pricy) )
> 
> And there is in the works an EPIA-specific linux distro (with all the
> drivers/kernel patches already in there)  which is in beta (and i think
> its based on gentoo, not sure, better check). Its known as /epiOS. /If
> you have to have support for the hardware now (before the VIA drivers
> become stable and merged into the general kernel tree) i would suggest
> to try that distro.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Trey Thank You.
That didn't make things easier, but at least I  know so I don't step off 
a cliff (and i ain't no cartoon-character neither) by making a bad 
assumption about the kernel.  There are one or two obvious things I can 
do, although they do take serious time.  Sigh.  I gotta think about this 
some more

I got a slow-panic on both of the (Linux/Win4Lin(/tarantula:1)) servers 
that I maintain, so I gotta "do some of that [admin] stuff!" now...

Thanks again!
rgh.
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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish

帅哥:->代小飞 wrote:

> Richard Fish wrote:
>
>>帅哥:->代小飞 wrote:  
>>
>>>HI;
>>>I use the HP omin book to install the gentoo linux;
>>>when I use the console in the system, the console's only the 600*480;
>>>I want the change the console to the whool screen(1024*768);
>>>of course ,I can set params in the gurb' configure file
>>>(/boot/gurb.conf),set "vga 1024*768",
>>>when I restart the computer,the consloe can reach the whole screen;But
>>>in this mode ,
>>>I can not use "startx",to use the X Server;
>>>I install the buffer frame gentoo-kernel ;
>>>
>>>any answer will be overcome!
>>>thanks!
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>What graphics chip? (ATI, Intel, ?) (see 'lspci')
>>
>>What is the error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?  
>>
> I use the Intel-810 vedio card,
> no independence graphics chip,!
> in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, It say the XServer has runed ;
> But ,I only run the console in the buffer frame ,no the XSever running;,
> maybe ,If run the console in the bufferframe ,must run the XServer in
> another local;?
>

I would suggest using the kernel i810fb driver. The documentation
(linux/Documentation/fb/intel810.txt) says it will work with the
XFree86/X.org Intel driver. You may have to reconfigure & rebuild your
kernel. Be sure to read the intel810.txt file in the kernel source,
especially section "D. Kernel booting".

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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Kiawud wrote:

>I'm looking to create some LVM2 volumes during an installation of
>2005.0.  However, the gentoo instructions indicate that the LVM2
>application on the 2005.0 LiveCD is dynamic built against libraries in
>/usr (which I intend to put on one of the LVM volumes).
>
>To get around this, the instruction suggests installing the latest
>LVM2 installation or the 2.0.33 (not -r1) which they say is statically
>built.
>  
>
I am using lvm2 2.0.33-r1, dynamically linked, but all of the dependent
libraries are installed in /lib, not /usr/lib.

carcharias linux # ldd /sbin/lvm
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xe000)
libdevmapper.so.1.00 => /lib/libdevmapper.so.1.00 (0xb7fc3000)
libreadline.so.4 => /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0xb7f9e000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f9a000)
libncursesw.so.5 => /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f5b000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e2b000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fea000)

I don't use a separate /usr partition, so there is no reason for Gentoo
to have prefered /lib to /usr/lib for these libraries.  So I am pretty
sure this is the normal location for them.

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[gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Eric S. Johansson
I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there 
any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD 
and install everything via serial console?

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip (udev?) question

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Mark Knecht wrote:

>Hi,
>   This may be a dvdrip item but I thought I'd try here first as I'm
>not that sure about udev. my laptop is running ck-sources. I have a
>  
>

Strange...I've ripped DVDs using udev, so I doubt it is a udev issue. 
Unfortunately, I am 8,000 miles from home right now, with no DVDs to
experiment with.  I think I was using "dvdbackup" though.

Can you mount the DVD (this works just like mounting a CD usually, but
maybe requires UDF support??).

If so, can you play it with mplayer using "-dvd-device
/mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS" (or something like that...play with the path a
little).  For xine, it is something like "xine  dvd://mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS/"

If that all works, I can't think of any reason why dvdrip would have
trouble.

-Richard


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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there
> any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
> and install everything via serial console?
> 
> thanks,
> ---eric
> 
> 

people has used the ps2 mouse attach too ;) some crazy boy that wanted
to attach 3 monitors and keyboard to one pc.
No idea on how to change default input in a boot cd.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
ok, now that i've rebooted windoze again and email is -maybe- working 
again, i'll finish that email.  doe anybody know where i might find the 
kernel-derivations and maybe patches?

thanks,
rgh.
Robert G. Hays wrote:
Trey Thank You.
That didn't make things easier, but at least I  know so I don't step 
off a cliff (and i ain't no cartoon-character neither) by making a bad 
assumption about the kernel.  There are one or two obvious things I 
can do, although they do take serious time.  Sigh.  I gotta think 
about this some more

I got a slow-panic on both of the (Linux/Win4Lin(/tarantula:1)) 
servers that I maintain, so I gotta "do some of that [admin] stuff!" 
now...

Thanks again!
rgh.
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Kiawud
On 4/14/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using lvm2 2.0.33-r1, dynamically linked, but all of the dependent
> libraries are installed in /lib, not /usr/lib.
> 
> carcharias linux # ldd /sbin/lvm
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xe000)
> libdevmapper.so.1.00 => /lib/libdevmapper.so.1.00 (0xb7fc3000)
> libreadline.so.4 => /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0xb7f9e000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f9a000)
> libncursesw.so.5 => /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f5b000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e2b000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fea000)
> 
> I don't use a separate /usr partition, so there is no reason for Gentoo
> to have prefered /lib to /usr/lib for these libraries.  So I am pretty
> sure this is the normal location for them.
> 

Thanks ... I'll emerge 'lvm2' and check to see where all it's libraries are.  

-Hani

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread John J. Foster
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:59:49PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
> Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
> My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
> net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
> to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
> speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
> 
> My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
> not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
> to support Gentoo) if that would work.
> 
> My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
> to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
> time:-)
> 
> All help and guidance appreciated,
> 
> Thanks,
> John
Thanks to all who offered suggestions and advice. I'm in the process of
repartitioning and gathering enough documentation to get started this
weekend.

Once again, thanks. I'm sure I'll be back seeking guidance.

John

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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
If the computer has a USB port, maybe you can find & enable 'legacy' 
(keyboard & mouse) on USB; obviousy this needs a usb-capable keyboard 
begged, borrowed, or bought if you don't already have one

Just a thought.
rgh.
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 

I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there
any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
and install everything via serial console?
thanks,
---eric
people has used the ps2 mouse attach too ;) some crazy boy that wanted
to attach 3 monitors and keyboard to one pc.
No idea on how to change default input in a boot cd.
 

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[gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
I have this message when I run this command:
mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
/dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
ls -l /dev/loop*
I have this in /dev:brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop0
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 1 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop1
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 2 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop2
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 3 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop3
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 4 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop4
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 5 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop5
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 6 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop6
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 7 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop7
Thank you for your help.
Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console with a side order of vacation programs

2005-04-14 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
people has used the ps2 mouse attach too ;) some crazy boy that wanted
to attach 3 monitors and keyboard to one pc.
twisted man, twisted.  ohh wait that is another system.. ;-)
No idea on how to change default input in a boot cd.
was afraid of that.  I suspect it will involve some CD reconstruction.
---eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Al Bayrouni wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
> I have this message when I run this command:
>
>
> mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
>
> /dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
>

Do you have the 'loop' block device module loaded or compiled into your
kernel?

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[gentoo-user] Re: mount

2005-04-14 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Thursday 14 April 2005 22:12, Al Bayrouni wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
> I have this message when I run this command:
>
>
> mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
>
> /dev/loop0: no such file or directorie

mount -o loop /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso /mnt/iso

Ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Magnus Varmfors
Hi!

Try not using the /dev/loop0. If I remember correctly, the default for
loop is to look up a free loop-device.

So, try...

mount -t iso9660 /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso /mnt/iso -o loop

>From the man-page:
"If  no  explicit loop device is mentioned (but just an option `-o loop'
is given), then mount will try to find some unused loop device and  use
that."

Regards,

/Magnus

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
> I have this message when I run this command:
> 
> mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
> 
> /dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
> 
> ls -l /dev/loop*
> I have this in /dev:brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop0
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 1 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop1
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 2 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop2
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 3 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop3
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 4 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop4
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 5 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop5
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 6 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop6
> brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 7 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop7
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Richard Fish wrote:
Al Bayrouni wrote:
 

Hello all,
I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
I have this message when I run this command:
mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
/dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
   

Do you have the 'loop' block device module loaded or compiled into your
kernel?
-Richard
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
 

No.
I just added this in /usr/src/linux:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
Is this module that is needed to mount loop devices?
Thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Magnus Varmfors wrote:
Hi!
Try not using the /dev/loop0. If I remember correctly, the default for
loop is to look up a free loop-device.
So, try...
mount -t iso9660 /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso /mnt/iso -o loop
From the man-page:
"If  no  explicit loop device is mentioned (but just an option `-o loop'
is given), then mount will try to find some unused loop device and  use
that."
Regards,
/Magnus
On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Hello all,
I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
I have this message when I run this command:
mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
/dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
ls -l /dev/loop*
I have this in /dev:brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop0
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 1 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop1
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 2 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop2
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 3 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop3
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 4 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop4
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 5 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop5
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 6 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop6
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 7 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop7
Thank you for your help.
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The loop device is not supported by the kernel so I need to compile it 
with the new support and my question is :

where exactly in the menuconfig I need to do the modification? or in the config 
file?
Thanks 

Bayrouni
  

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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Al Bayrouni wrote:

> No.
> I just added this in /usr/src/linux:
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
>
> Is this module that is needed to mount loop devices?


Thats it.  =y means it will be built into the kernel (you could also use
=m to build it as a loadable module).

Now you just need to recompile and install the new kernel.  If you
haven't done that before, be sure to lookup the relevant documentation
on Gentoo.org, google the archives, etc.  Particularly scan archive or
forum threads dealing with the benefits and problems of using
"genkernel".  If you want to ask specific questions, feel free.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Magnus Varmfors
Hi there!

I think it'd be CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP, yes. But if you set it to "y",
it's compiled into kernel and isn't a module.

If you want it to be a module, set it to "m".

In menuconfig, it's Device Drivers -> Block Devices -> Loopback device support.

At least in 6.11.x.

Regards,

/M

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> The loop device is not supported by the kernel so I need to compile it
> with the new support and my question is :
> 
> where exactly in the menuconfig I need to do the modification? or in the 
> config file?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Magnus Varmfors wrote:
Hi there!
I think it'd be CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP, yes. But if you set it to "y",
it's compiled into kernel and isn't a module.
If you want it to be a module, set it to "m".
In menuconfig, it's Device Drivers -> Block Devices -> Loopback device support.
At least in 6.11.x.
Regards,
/M
On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

The loop device is not supported by the kernel so I need to compile it
with the new support and my question is :
where exactly in the menuconfig I need to do the modification? or in the config 
file?
Thanks
Bayrouni
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OK.
I put this in .config:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
Now I run make && make modules && make modules_install or just make 
modules && make modules_install  (I use kernel 2.6.11)

Thank you .
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[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly Complex Hard Drive Question

2005-04-14 Thread Tom Moyer
Alright it seems like there was some confusion.
hda (40 Gig) has only Windows XP with Grub installed to it's MBR
hdb (120 Gig) has only Gentoo (all partitions including /boot)
hdc(30 Gig) currently unused

I would like to swap hda and hdb.

>From what I could gather all this would involve is physically swapping
the drives and then reinstalling Grub and modifying /etc/fstab to
point to new partitons.

I don't want to swap any data across the drives I just want to have
Gentoo be the only OS installed.

Also from one response: "Put the drives on separate channels."
Why?  I want to use all three for Gentoo if possible.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip (udev?) question

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Richard,
   Thanks for the response. Yes, xine works fine. I just start xine
and then choose DVD from the gui. Up pops the movie's menu and off I
go. No problems at all.

   On the other hand dvdrip is struggling a bit. I may be usign it
incorrectly for all I know. I'm just hittign buttons and hoping I'm
doing it right. I have tried as both a user and as root and get the
same failure. The failure point is different for different DVDs, but
it's always the same basic message. In the 'Rip Title' tab I choose
'Read DVD table of contents'. It starts off, goes for 1 or more
chapters and then does this:


Job 'Probing - title #8' failed.

Executed command: dr_exec tcprobe -H 10 -i /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 -T 8 &&
echo DVDRIP_SUCCESS; dr_exec dvdxchap -t 8 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
2>/dev/null

Last output was:


libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[tcprobe] DVD image/device
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 for reading
(probe_dvd.c) failed to open DVD /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
[tcprobe] failed to probe source
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Chapter 01
CHAPTER02=00:02:32.000
CHAPTER02NAME=Chapter 02

Do it again and it fails on the title block I guess:

Job 'Determine number of titles' failed.

Executed command: dr_exec tcprobe -H 10 -i /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 && echo
DVDRIP_SUCCESS

Last output was:


libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[tcprobe] DVD image/device
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 for reading
(probe_dvd.c) failed to open DVD /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
[tcprobe] failed to probe source


Under 'Edit Preferences' I can test all the settings. dvdrip is nice
that way. Here's the results I get testing my current settings. Some
things are nto tested but everything says OK:


DVD device: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 writable : Ok
DVD mount point: /mnt/cdrom exists : Ok
Default data base directory: /home/mark/Images writable : Ok
Default directory for .rip project files: /home/mark/Images writable : Ok
OGG file extension: not tested : Ok

DVD player command: /usr/bin/mplayer executable : Ok
File player command: /usr/bin/mplayer executable : Ok
STDIN player command: /usr/bin/xine executable : Ok
rar command (for vobsub compression): /opt/bin/rar executable : Ok

Writer device file: /dev/cdrom writable : Ok
cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,0,0 has format n,n,n : Ok

NOTE: It looked like this until I guessed about putting in a '0' for the X.

cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,X,0 has not format n,n,n and is
no file : NOT Ok


cdrecord command: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap executable : Ok
cdrdao command: /usr/bin/cdrdao executable : Ok
mkisofs command: /usr/bin/mkisofs executable : Ok
vcdimager command: /usr/bin/vcdimager executable : Ok
Writing speed: 16 is numeric : Ok
Estimate ISO size: not tested : Ok
CD-RW blank method: not tested : Ok

cdrdao driver: not tested : Ok
Overburning: not tested : Ok
Eject disc after write: not tested : Ok
Buffersize: is empty : Ok

Start cluster control daemon locally: not tested : Ok
Hostname of server with daemon: not tested : Ok
TCP port number of daemon: 28646 is numeric : Ok

Default video codec: not tested : Ok
Default container format: not tested : Ok
Startup window width: not tested : Ok
Startup window height: not tested : Ok
Preferred language: not tested : Ok
Show tooltips: not tested : Ok




On 4/14/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >   This may be a dvdrip item but I thought I'd try here first as I'm
> >not that sure about udev. my laptop is running ck-sources. I have a
> >
> >
> 
> Strange...I've ripped DVDs using udev, so I doubt it is a udev issue.
> Unfortunately, I am 8,000 miles from home right now, with no DVDs to
> experiment with.  I think I was using "dvdbackup" though.
> 
> Can you mount the DVD (this works just like mounting a CD usually, but
> maybe requires UDF support??).
> 
> If so, can you play it with mplayer using "-dvd-device
> /mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS" (or something like that...play with the path a
> little).  For xine, it is something like "xine  dvd://mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS/"
> 
> If that all works, I can't think of any reason why dvdrip would have
> trouble.
> 
> -Richard
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[gentoo-user] X random freeze but mouse still moves

2005-04-14 Thread MalachiX
I have been battling an ongoing problem for a while.  When I am on
Linux, X will just randomly freezes/hangs.  I can not control alt
backspace.  The mouse still moves though, it is only the screen that
freezes.

The problem has been on Gentoo forum for a few months now:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023.html

The problem is also posted about on the Nvidia forum:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858

What is responsible still is not clear.  If anyone even has a clue as to
what may cause this problem, please reply.  I have tried changing my
video card and messing with xorg,conf with no success.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to subscribe but get no mail

2005-04-14 Thread Stroller
On Apr 14, 2005, at 6:09 pm, Harry Putnam wrote:
I want to subscribe here but get no messages delivered.  The
subscription would be so as to enable posting thru news.gmane.org's
mail to news gateway.
Is there some way to set such a parameter?

On Apr 14, 2005, at 10:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To subscribe to the nomail version of this list send a mail to:
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The nomail version of a list means that you are reckognized as a
subscriber, but will not get any mails to the list. Useful when it's
necessary to post from several emailaddresses to a subscribers only 
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Re: [gentoo-user] screen is blinking with nvidia

2005-04-14 Thread Tim Beck
Just curious...is it a very very faint blinking, or is it a more
dramatic blackening effect?

I noticed the same thing with my workstation (which also has an nvidia
card) and just thought I was nuts.  But it doesn't seem to do it in
windows, so...

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
> But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
> 
> Thank you for any help.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:46 -0400
Robert G. Hays wrote:

> ok, now that i've rebooted windoze again and email is -maybe- working 
> again, i'll finish that email.  doe anybody know where i might find the 
> kernel-derivations and maybe patches?
> 
> thanks,
> rgh

What do you mean derivations?

The patches for any gentoo kernel set are usually

genpatches-${KV_MAJOR}.${KV_MINOR}-${GPV}-base.tar.bz2 and 
genpatches-${KV_MAJOR}.${KV_MINOR}-${GPV}-extras.tar.bz2

they are patched over a vanilla kernel.

see the ebuild for details

less `equery which gentoo-sources`


> 
> 
> Robert G. Hays wrote:
> 
> > Trey Thank You.
> >
> > That didn't make things easier, but at least I  know so I don't step 
> > off a cliff (and i ain't no cartoon-character neither) by making a bad 
> > assumption about the kernel.  There are one or two obvious things I 
> > can do, although they do take serious time.  Sigh.  I gotta think 
> > about this some more
> >
> > I got a slow-panic on both of the (Linux/Win4Lin(/tarantula:1)) 
> > servers that I maintain, so I gotta "do some of that [admin] stuff!" 
> > now...
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > rgh.
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] X random freeze but mouse still moves

2005-04-14 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
MalachiX wrote:
> I have been battling an ongoing problem for a while.  When I am on
> Linux, X will just randomly freezes/hangs.  I can not control alt
> backspace.  The mouse still moves though, it is only the screen that
> freezes.
> 
> The problem has been on Gentoo forum for a few months now:
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023.html
> 
> The problem is also posted about on the Nvidia forum:
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858
> 
> What is responsible still is not clear.  If anyone even has a clue as to
> what may cause this problem, please reply.  I have tried changing my
> video card and messing with xorg,conf with no success.

for completeness:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2155


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[gentoo-user] poedit build failing

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Bare
poedit used to work for me, but some dependency upgrade seems to have broken
my current install, so I tried rebuilding it. Now it won't build. There is a
bug (#88619) that suggests rebuilding wxGTK without the gtk USE-flag. This is
apparently out of date, as the current wxGTK build has these flags:
+gtk2 +no_wxgtk1
I tried turning off gtk2, but then the wxGTK build failed because I also have
the +unicode flag. It said gtk2 was required for unicode.
Since I'm trying to edit utf8 files, I assume I need unicode support.

Does anyone have poedit working and editing utf8 files? If so what USE flags
did you use for wxGTK and poedit?
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