Re: [gentoo-dev] meaning of sqlite/sqlite3 use flag

2007-09-15 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:18:29 +0200
Hanno Böck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that the sqlite/sqlite3-useflags have no consistent meaning
> in the tree.

Python uses USE="sqlite" to install basically pysqlite3..
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[gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Samuli Suominen
User posted me today these:

http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1

Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
Linux in them, including our logo.

Is that legal?

- drac
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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Just a couple comments on this ...

On 07:19 Sat 15 Sep , Hans de Graaff (graaff) wrote:
> SITEPACKAGE=/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages

Is using get_libdir() a concern here?

> xemacs-elisp-compile () {
>   ${XEMACS_BATCH_CLEAN} -f batch-byte-compile "$@"
>   xemacs-elisp-make-autoload-file "$@"
> }

> xemacs-elisp-install () {
>   local subdir="$1"
>   shift
>   (  # use sub-shell to avoid possible environment polution
>   dodir "${SITEPACKAGE}"/lisp/"${subdir}"
>   insinto "${SITEPACKAGE}"/lisp/"${subdir}"
>   doins "$@"
>   ) || die "Installing lisp files failed"
> }

The lack of parallels between these two functions bothers me. One dies 
and the other doesn't, which makes later code using them look wrong. It would 
be neater to die in both of these functions.

Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which creates 
a subshell.

> xemacs-elisp_src_compile() {
>   xemacs-elisp-compile *.el || die "Compilation of lisp files failed"
> }
> 
> xemacs-elisp_src_install () {
>   xemacs-elisp-install "${PN}" *.el *.elc
> }

Here's the funny-looking bit.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:58:27 +0300
Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> User posted me today these:
> 
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1
> 
> Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
> Linux in them, including our logo.
> 
> Is that legal?
> 
> - drac

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/gentoo/-/cfpt2_/copt_/cfpt_/source_searchBox/x_0/y_0

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
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Samuli Suominen schrieb:
> User posted me today these:
> 
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1
> 
> Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
> Linux in them, including our logo.
> 
> Is that legal?
> 
> - drac

This is the shop of gentoo.de which holds the trademark in Germany :) So
 this should be ok :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Arturo Garcia
On Saturday 15 Sep 2007, René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
> This is the shop of gentoo.de which holds the trademark in Germany :) So
>  this should be ok :)
Can someone confirm?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 07:19 Sat 15 Sep , Hans de Graaff (graaff) wrote:
> > SITEPACKAGE=/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages
>
> Is using get_libdir() a concern here?

looks it to me

> > xemacs-elisp-compile () {
> > ${XEMACS_BATCH_CLEAN} -f batch-byte-compile "$@"
> > xemacs-elisp-make-autoload-file "$@"
> > }
> >
> > xemacs-elisp-install () {
> > local subdir="$1"
> > shift
> > (  # use sub-shell to avoid possible environment polution
> > dodir "${SITEPACKAGE}"/lisp/"${subdir}"
> > insinto "${SITEPACKAGE}"/lisp/"${subdir}"
> > doins "$@"
> > ) || die "Installing lisp files failed"
> > }
>
> The lack of parallels between these two functions bothers me. One dies
> and the other doesn't, which makes later code using them look wrong. It
> would be neater to die in both of these functions.
>
> Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which creates
> a subshell.

erm, what ?  () is a subshell, {} is a list of grouped commands ...
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday, 15. September 2007, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> > Is that legal?
> >
> > - drac
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/gentoo/-/cfpt2_/copt_/cfpt_/source_searc
>hBox/x_0/y_0

CafePress is the official gentoo.org store, see:
http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo/

I guess that includes our stuff popping up in their search results.

Also, I believe -dev is not the appropriate place for this (project 
ftw!).

Regards,
Robert


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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Benedikt Boehm
Hi all,

mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 05:56 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On 07:19 Sat 15 Sep , Hans de Graaff (graaff) wrote:
> > > SITEPACKAGE=/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages
> >
> > Is using get_libdir() a concern here?
> 
> looks it to me

Not really, because all the code that gets installed through the
eclasses is byte-compiled elisp, which should be arch-independent.

And yes, this should really be moved to /usr/share instead for that
reason. Upstream just committed changes for that to their CVS, and it is
on my to do list to work out a migration scheme.

Thanks everyone for the feedback!

Kind regards,

Hans


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> Hi all,
> 
> mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899
> 
> Regards,
> Bene

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899

I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from the
normal 30 days.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 05:56 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > On 07:19 Sat 15 Sep , Hans de Graaff (graaff) wrote:
> > > > SITEPACKAGE=/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages
> > >
> > > Is using get_libdir() a concern here?
> >
> > looks it to me
>
> Not really, because all the code that gets installed through the
> eclasses is byte-compiled elisp, which should be arch-independent.
>
> And yes, this should really be moved to /usr/share instead for that
> reason. Upstream just committed changes for that to their CVS, and it is
> on my to do list to work out a migration scheme.

sounds like a good reason to overlook /usr/lib/ abuse then
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bene
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899
> 
> I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from the
> normal 30 days.
> 
> Regards,
> Petteri
> 

oh please. i don't care...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bene
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899
>>
>> I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from the
>> normal 30 days.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Petteri
>>
> 
> oh please. i don't care...

about users?

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 11:58 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> 
> Is that legal? 

All legal questions should *always* be directed to the trustees.

To put it simply, anyone selling anything with a Gentoo logo on it is
breaking the law, unless they are selling a Gentoo Linux CD.  In other
words, the only allowed commercial usage is when talking *about* Gentoo.

The Friends of Gentoo e.V. have said repeatedly that they have some
agreement with the Foundation.  As a trustee, I never saw any such
evidence.  Any licenses given out by the Foundation for usage of our
logos and name would need to be done in writing to have even the
slightest chance of being legal.  If they have documentation, I would
like to see it.

As for Cafepress and such, I check it every so often and report anyone
using our logos and they take them down.  I have a couple places on my
radar, I just haven't gotten all of the paperwork finished and sent in.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 12:22 +0200, Robert Buchholz wrote:
> Also, I believe -dev is not the appropriate place for this (project 
> ftw!).

Ehh... no... gentoo-nfp is where things involving our legal entity
belongs.

This sort of thread 100% absolutely does *not* belong on this list, nor
project.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:48:52 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300
> > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Bene
> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899
> >>
> >> I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from
> >> the normal 30 days.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Petteri
> >>
> > 
> > oh please. i don't care...
> 
> about users?

no, i meant if it's 14 or 30 days, or 3 months .. i'm pretty sure i
forget to remove it on time anyway

> 
> Regards,
> Petteri
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:56 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which creates
> > a subshell.
> 
> erm, what ?  () is a subshell, {} is a list of grouped commands ...

Right, that's what I said. What's the point of using a subshell here? 
That comment about environment pollution didn't make sense to me.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 05:56 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which
> > > creates a subshell.
> >
> > erm, what ?  () is a subshell, {} is a list of grouped commands ...
>
> Right, that's what I said. What's the point of using a subshell here?
> That comment about environment pollution didn't make sense to me.

the "into" part pollutes the environment
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:52 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On 05:56 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > > Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which
> > > > creates a subshell.
> > >
> > > erm, what ?  () is a subshell, {} is a list of grouped commands ...
> >
> > Right, that's what I said. What's the point of using a subshell here?
> > That comment about environment pollution didn't make sense to me.
> 
> the "into" part pollutes the environment
> -mike

One insinto definitely doesn't qualify as pollution to me. Mild 
littering, perhaps. But with a subshell, it's only a matter of time 
before something weird happens, like trying to put a die() in there.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: xemacs-elisp-common.eclass xemacs-elisp.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 16:52 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > On 05:56 Sat 15 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > > > Also, try using { } around a block of code instead of ( ), which
> > > > > creates a subshell.
> > > >
> > > > erm, what ?  () is a subshell, {} is a list of grouped commands ...
> > >
> > > Right, that's what I said. What's the point of using a subshell here?
> > > That comment about environment pollution didn't make sense to me.
> >
> > the "into" part pollutes the environment
>
> One insinto definitely doesn't qualify as pollution to me. Mild
> littering, perhaps. But with a subshell, it's only a matter of time
> before something weird happens, like trying to put a die() in there.

i dont use the eclass so it doesnt matter to me, but it does modify the 
environment in possibly unexpected ways for the caller

for do* funcs this is a must, for other funcs it's up to the maintainers
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:48:52 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300
>>> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti:
> Hi all,
>
> mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899
>
> Regards,
> Bene
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899

 I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from
 the normal 30 days.

 Regards,
 Petteri

>>> oh please. i don't care...
>> about users?
> 
> no, i meant if it's 14 or 30 days, or 3 months .. i'm pretty sure i
> forget to remove it on time anyway
> 
>> Regards,
>> Petteri
>>

The delay in removal is for the benefit of the users.

Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: font.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:20 Sun 16 Sep , Ryan Hill (dirtyepic) wrote:
> dirtyepic07/09/16 02:20:05
> 
>   Modified: font.eclass
>   Log:
>   Forgot to remove -v flag from chmod.

> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
>   for suffix in ${FONT_SUFFIX}; do
>   doins *.${suffix}
>   # ensure fonts are world readable to prevent fontconfig 
> segfaults
> - chmod -v 0644 ${D}${FONTDIR}/*.${suffix}
> + chmod 0644 ${D}${FONTDIR}/*.${suffix}

I think it'd be a good idea to put that back in. No harm, and it could 
help with any bug reports. The '-c' option might be even better if it's 
portable.

Thanks,
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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: font.eclass

2007-09-15 Thread Ryan Hill
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 02:20 Sun 16 Sep , Ryan Hill (dirtyepic) wrote:
>> dirtyepic07/09/16 02:20:05
>>
>>   Modified: font.eclass
>>   Log:
>>   Forgot to remove -v flag from chmod.
> 
>> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
>>  for suffix in ${FONT_SUFFIX}; do
>>  doins *.${suffix}
>>  # ensure fonts are world readable to prevent fontconfig 
>> segfaults
>> -chmod -v 0644 ${D}${FONTDIR}/*.${suffix}
>> +chmod 0644 ${D}${FONTDIR}/*.${suffix}
> 
> I think it'd be a good idea to put that back in. No harm, and it could 
> help with any bug reports. The '-c' option might be even better if it's 
> portable.

Actually I wonder if I even need the chmod at all.  doins should default to
0644.  The permission problem might come from ebuilds that don't use the eclass
and do their own make install, or user-installed fonts.


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