Re: donation of project

2003-12-22 Thread Danny Angus 




Hi Matt,

> My company is interested in donating a project to the Apache
>Foundation. Specifically, we have created an updated HTML editor kit

A swing Editor Kit? Cool.

d.



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Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Rodney Waldhoff 
I'm confused.  Why is Axion different from:

  http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/
  http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/
  http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/
  http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/

especially in light of the accepted proposal which explictly states
http://db.apache.org/axion?

I thought we had previously discussed this, notably
.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

>
> Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> > Ok, great, thanks Nicola.
> >
> > I had assumed, based upon both the exsiting incubator documenation and a
> > number of discussions, that Axion would be set up at:
> >
> >  http://db.apache.org/axion
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > etc.  Indeed that is what was proposed, since it's considered a bit of
> > hassle to be moving our infrastructure around several times in a short
> > timeframe.
>
>  From the latest discussions (and IIUC it's also on the website, or at
> least it should be), you are right except for the site part.
>
> In other words:
>
>http://incubator.apache.org/axion
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>db-axion CVS
>
> In fact the project is officially part of the Incubator Project, so the
> site is published here.
>
> Note that this has nothing to do with the Incubator Project website,
> it's just a URL. Check in the generated website (whichever system you
> use) to an Apache CVS, and tell us to get it from there.
>
> > It's not clear to me:
> >
> > a) What part of the axion stuff needs to be hosted at incubator.  Is is
> > just the projects page (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/axion.html)
>
> Yes.
>
> Plus the website that has to be published under
>http://incubator.apache.org/axion
>
> > b) Who I need to talk to get the mailing lists, cvs repo, etc. set up.
> > Send a note to infrastructure?
>
> Yes.
>
> Good work :-)
>
>

-- 
- Rod 

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RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman 
Rodney Waldhoff wrote:

> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > In other words:
> >http://incubator.apache.org/axion
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >db-axion CVS

> I'm confused.  Why is Axion different from:
>   http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/
>   http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/
>   http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/
>   http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/

Because those existed before a policy was established, we have not forced
them to move, and they have, as yet, not voluntarily done so.

We were told to make it apparent that a project is in the Incubator, and
that an obvious and clear indicator is the URL.  Some of the other resources
were also suggested, but we're trying to strike the best balance.

Moving web sites is trivial.  We do it quite often.  I already did it for
two URLs today.  I also demonstrated it as a "proof of concept" for lenya,
as you can see from http://incubator.apache.org/lenya/.

When we move axion, we would simply place:

  RedirectMatch Permanent /axion/(.*) http://db.apache.org/axion/$1

into our .htaccess file.

Does this present any sort of difficulty?

--- Noel


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RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Rodney Waldhoff 
My concern isn't the difficulty of copying files from one directory to
another.  It is pointing an exisiting user, developer and google-bot
community from http://axion.tigris.org, then to
http://incubator.apache.org/axion, then to http://db.apache.org/axion, all
in a matter of weeks.  What does all this disruption buy for us?

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
>
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > > In other words:
> > >http://incubator.apache.org/axion
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >db-axion CVS
>
> > I'm confused.  Why is Axion different from:
> >   http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/
> >   http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/
> >   http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/
> >   http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/
>
> Because those existed before a policy was established, we have not forced
> them to move, and they have, as yet, not voluntarily done so.
>
> We were told to make it apparent that a project is in the Incubator, and
> that an obvious and clear indicator is the URL.  Some of the other resources
> were also suggested, but we're trying to strike the best balance.
>
> Moving web sites is trivial.  We do it quite often.  I already did it for
> two URLs today.  I also demonstrated it as a "proof of concept" for lenya,
> as you can see from http://incubator.apache.org/lenya/.
>
> When we move axion, we would simply place:
>
>   RedirectMatch Permanent /axion/(.*) http://db.apache.org/axion/$1
>
> into our .htaccess file.
>
> Does this present any sort of difficulty?
>
>   --- Noel
>
>
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RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Ceki Gülcü 


I am also worried about the point raised by Rodney.

At 11:41 AM 12/22/2003 -0800, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
My concern isn't the difficulty of copying files from one directory to
another.  It is pointing an exisiting user, developer and google-bot
community from http://axion.tigris.org, then to
http://incubator.apache.org/axion, then to http://db.apache.org/axion, all
in a matter of weeks.  What does all this disruption buy for us?
--
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problems running forrest

2003-12-22 Thread Rodney Waldhoff 
Following the instructions at
http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html, I seem to be having
problems running forrest.

Specifically, when I run "forrest run" from the incubator directory, I get
an error like this:



13:45:52.691 EVENT  ERROR   (2003-12-22) 13:45.52:681   [access  ]
(Unknown-URI) Unknown-thread/CocoonServlet: Exception reloading
org.apache.avalon.framework.configuration.ConfigurationException: Could
not set up component
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector.configure(ExcaliburComponentSelector.java:427)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.configure(ContainerUtil.java:239)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.DefaultComponentFactory.newInstance(DefaultComponentFactory.java:315)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ThreadSafeComponentHandler.initialize(ThreadSafeComponentHandler.java:141)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentManager.initialize(ExcaliburComponentManager.java:554)
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.CocoonComponentManager.initialize(CocoonComponentManager.java:530)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.initialize(ContainerUtil.java:282)

after jetty starts up.  Hitting http://localhost: gives an
"Initialization Problem" page.



Similiarly, when I run plain old "forrest" in an attempt to generate the
site, I get a large number of errors of the form:



ERROR   2003-12-22 13:50:30.749 [manager ] (): Could not set up Component
for hint [ defaults]
org.apache.avalon.framework.configuration.ConfigurationException: No value
is associated with the configuration element "bugtracking-url" at
file:/home/rwaldhof/dev/apache/incubator/build/webapp/WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf:165:26
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.configuration.DefaultConfiguration.getValue(DefaultConfiguration.java:219)
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.modules.input.DefaultsModule.configure(DefaultsModule.java:90)
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.modules.input.DefaultsMetaModule.configure(DefaultsMetaModule.java:76)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.configure(ContainerUtil.java:239)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.DefaultComponentFactory.newInstance(DefaultComponentFactory.java:315)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ThreadSafeComponentHandler.initialize(ThreadSafeComponentHandler.java:141)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector.addComponent(ExcaliburComponentSelector.java:727)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector.configure(ExcaliburComponentSelector.java:405)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.configure(ContainerUtil.java:239)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.DefaultComponentFactory.newInstance(DefaultComponentFactory.java:315)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ThreadSafeComponentHandler.initialize(ThreadSafeComponentHandler.java:141)
at
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentManager.initialize(ExcaliburComponentManager.java:554)
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.CocoonComponentManager.initialize(CocoonComponentManager.java:530)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.initialize(ContainerUtil.java:282)
at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.initialize(Cocoon.java:327)
at
org.apache.avalon.framework.container.ContainerUtil.initialize(ContainerUtil.java:282)
at
org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonWrapper.initialize(CocoonWrapper.java:185)
at
org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonBean.initialize(CocoonBean.java:119)
at org.apache.cocoon.Main.main(Main.java:387)


- Rod 

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Re: Looking for help from incubation

2003-12-22 Thread Berin Lautenbach 
Ceki,

Realising that you don't necessarily need someone from the Incubator, 
I'd still be interested in helping out with the log4cxx piece.  I need 
something like this elsewhere, so it seems like a perfect match.

Cheers,
Berin
Ceki Gülcü wrote:

Hello,

We are looking for a member of the Incubator project to help the
Logging Services project to incubate some of the log4j sister projects
originating from outside the ASF. Are there any volunteers?



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RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman 
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> > My concern isn't the difficulty of copying files from one directory to
> > another.  It is pointing an exisiting user, developer and google-bot
> > community from http://axion.tigris.org, then to
> > http://incubator.apache.org/axion, then to http://db.apache.org/axion,
> > all in a matter of weeks.  What does all this disruption buy for us?

> I am also worried about the point raised by Rodney.

There should be no need to "point" people at anything.  Asking around, I am
told that the problem with tigris is simply that their system does not
support adding redirects.  That is not the case here.  So, unfortunately in
the case of axion, you do have to tell them to come to Apache, but we can
handle it transparently once here.

Personally, I do not have a problem if you chose to publish
db.apache.org/axion. as the normative URL for people.  Then in
/www/db.apache.org/.htaccess, added:

  Redirect Permanent /axion http://incubator.apache.org/axion

People visiting the normal location would be automatically relocated to the
URL within the Incubator (thus satisfying the request that we make the
projects's status clear) for the duration of Incubation, however long or
short a period.

When the project promoted, you would remove it, and we'd add:

  Redirect Permanent /axion http://db.apache.org/axion

for anyone who had bookmarked the incubation site.  Thus we would continue
to provide transparency and automation.

--- Noel


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RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Rodney Waldhoff 
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> > Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> > > My concern isn't the difficulty of copying files from one directory to
> > > another.  It is pointing an exisiting user, developer and google-bot
> > > community from http://axion.tigris.org, then to
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/axion, then to http://db.apache.org/axion,
> > > all in a matter of weeks.  What does all this disruption buy for us?
>
> > I am also worried about the point raised by Rodney.
>
> There should be no need to "point" people at anything.  Asking around, I am
> told that the problem with tigris is simply that their system does not
> support adding redirects.  That is not the case here.  So, unfortunately in
> the case of axion, you do have to tell them to come to Apache, but we can
> handle it transparently once here.

I understand the way .htaccess works.  I would still suggest this isn't
quite "transparent".  As evidence of this, I'll note that despite how
technically easy it is to "automatically" make this move, it has not been
done for the 5 or more projects currently hosted at their "destination"
URL.

>
> Personally, I do not have a problem if you chose to publish
> db.apache.org/axion. as the normative URL for people.  Then in
> /www/db.apache.org/.htaccess, added:
>
>   Redirect Permanent /axion http://incubator.apache.org/axion
>
> People visiting the normal location would be automatically relocated to the
> URL within the Incubator (thus satisfying the request that we make the
> projects's status clear) for the duration of Incubation, however long or
> short a period.
>
> When the project promoted, you would remove it, and we'd add:
>
>   Redirect Permanent /axion http://db.apache.org/axion
>
> for anyone who had bookmarked the incubation site.  Thus we would continue
> to provide transparency and automation.
>
>   --- Noel
>

- Rod 

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