Re: Editing STATUS file

2003-11-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Nicola,

Since you made the latest round of changes to the site structure, hopefully
you can explain things.
Yup :-)

In incubator/site/projects/directory.cwiki, it says:

  incubator/projects/{project_name}/STATUS

However, it appears that you replaced that file with:

  incubator/projects/{project_name}.cwiki
I did this so that it's easier to start a project status file and keep 
track of it. I did not update the STATUS files though, as we need a new 
format for them.

@see http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?NewProjectSTATUSTemplate

Mods and better layout welcome.

except in specific cases like Geronimo, where it is:

  incubator/projects/geronimo/status.cwiki

Is that correct?  
Yup. That was made by Roy as Geronimo has other incubation docs that 
need a place.

Unfortunately, this breaks the layout as I intended to have:

 incubator/projects/projectname.cwiki  (status file)
 incubator/projects/projectname/** (site)[1]
In fact [1] is where altrmi and ftpserver and geronimo are publishing 
their site.

The problem comes from the fact that ftpserver and altrmi have the site 
in their space, and just use that URL as a publishing space. If they 
need to place the same extra incubation docs as geronimo, they will have 
problems.

So we could do:

 incubator/status/projectname.cwiki (status file)
 incubator/status/projectname/status.cwiki  (alt status file)
 incubator/projects/projectname/**  (site)
or

 incubator/projects/projectname.cwiki (status file)
 incubator/projects/projectname/status.cwiki  (alt status file)
 incubator/projects/projectname/site/**   (site)

If so, are we intending to list all of the active
committers in that file, as suggested by:
  *Are all active committers in the STATUS file?
  *Do they have accounts on cvs.apache.org?
  *Have they submitted a contributors agreement?
I would like to see it, yes.

So far, I am not finding lists of committers on the STATUS pages linked from
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html.  I did find in some older
projects a file like
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/incubator-altrmi/status.xml, which has a
different structure, and has the developers.  But most projects have nothing
along these lines.
The status files are ATM not very uptodate, and some projects are 
keeping their status files in their own cvs structures.

Please advise, as I am trying to get the Directory project STATUS setup.
We need to sort this out first IMHO. Let's finish a new version of the 
status file, and start using that for the Directory project.

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?NewProjectSTATUSTemplate

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RE: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Can someone update the maven generated website?

> Also can the comitters recreate the website at
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo?

Please see
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AFAICS, this needs to be addressed for most of the incubator projects, with
the rare exception of Lenya, which has a URI,
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain.

Anyone who wants to help resolve this is welcome to join the discussion.

--- Noel


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Re: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-15 Thread James Strachan
On 15 Nov 2003, at 10:53, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Can someone update the maven generated website?

Also can the comitters recreate the website at
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo?
Please see
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg? 
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.org&msgNo=2586

AFAICS, this needs to be addressed for most of the incubator projects,  
with
the rare exception of Lenya, which has a URI,
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain.
Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if  
Lenya already has?

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RE: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > AFAICS, this needs to be addressed for most of the incubator projects,
> > with the rare exception of Lenya, which has a URI,
> > http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain.

> Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if
> Lenya already has?

I would guess that because it already has a TLP location.  I suppose that we
could have incubator.apache.org/$project for those that don't have a place.
That would not conflict with incubator.apache.org/projects/$project*,  which
is where the status material lives.  We just need a consensus on how to
organize the material.

--- Noel


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Re: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-15 Thread James Strachan
On 15 Nov 2003, at 14:15, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

AFAICS, this needs to be addressed for most of the incubator 
projects,
with the rare exception of Lenya, which has a URI,
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain.

Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if
Lenya already has?
I would guess that because it already has a TLP location.  I suppose 
that we
could have incubator.apache.org/$project for those that don't have a 
place.
That would not conflict with incubator.apache.org/projects/$project*,  
which
is where the status material lives.  We just need a consensus on how to
organize the material.
+1

It would also be extremely handy to be able to start putting Geronimo 
snapshot distributions on the site too then folks could just download 
builds & play with it without doing the whole CVS / Maven thing.

James
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RE: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> It would also be extremely handy to be able to start putting Geronimo
> snapshot distributions on the site too then folks could just download
> builds & play with it without doing the whole CVS / Maven thing.

See http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/incubator-geronimo/ for source
snapshots.  As for a binary build, I would prefer to see the IP issues out
of the way, but otherwise, it should be the same (policy-wise) as for any
incubator project.

--- Noel



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