Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Hello everyone, gently pinging to bring this back to life given the last patch I emailed. Best regards, -- Nuno Diegues On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Nuno Diegues wrote: > Hello everyone, > > after a summer internship and some backlog catching up in the past > weeks, I have finally got around to review the patch according to the > latest discussion. > > The changes have not caused regression, and the latest speedup results > are coherent with what we had before. > > > In the following I add some comments inline to the discussion, and > after that paste the updated patch. > > >> > >> > So let's iterate on this in parallel with the other changes that we need >> > to get in place. I'd prefer to have some more confidence that measuring >> > txn throughput in epochs is the best way forward. >> > >> > Here are a few thoughts: >> > >> > Why do we actually need to measure succeeded transactions? If a HW txn >> > is just getting committed without interfering with anything else, is >> > this really different from, say, two HW txns getting committed? Aren't >> > we really just interested in wasted work, or delayed txns? That may >> > help taking care of the nontxnal vs. txnal problem. >> > >> > Measuring committed txns during a time that might otherwise be spent by >> > a serial txns could be useful to figure out how much other useful work a >> > serial txn prevents. But we'd see that as well if we'd just go serial >> > during the auto-tuning because then concurrent txns will have to wait; >> > and in this case we could measure it in the slow path of those >> > concurrent txns (ie, during waiting, where measurement overhead wouldn't >> > matter as much). >> > >> > If a serial txn is running, concurrent txns (that wait) are free to sync >> > and tell the serial how much cost it creates for the concurrent txns. >> > There, txn length could matter, but we won't find out for real until >> > after the concurrent ones have run (they could be pretty short, so we >> > can't simply assume that the concurrent ones are as long as the serial >> > one, so that simply the number of concurrent ones can be used to >> > calculate delayed work). > > > I understand you concern: measuring failure in a slow path rather than > success in > the fast/common path. > > My problem is that the approach taken in our work is tailored for accessing > one > given metric, in our case some form of throughput of successfully > executed atomic > blocks. > However, to measure failure, we seem to need two things: > 1) the rate of failed hardware transactions > 2) the time spent waiting for the serial lock > > In short, the performance will be bad if there is a mix of those two > issues that is bad > enough. The problem is how to define a metric that considers those two > together? > It is not obvious to me that there is one. Furthermore, that deviates > significantly from > our approach, and in the end --- even if there is a solution that > works in that way --- > that is a different approach, not one that can be applied to our > self-tuning framework. > > What we are doing right now is incrementing a counter in a (most > likely cached line) > that is single-writer and multiple-reader. Most often, it will be > owned by the single-writer. > As such, the cost should be quite negligible compared to the execution > of the atomic > block, more so in the case that a Hardware transaction was used, as > the commit itself > should be a hundred cycles or more. > > A good way to measure this impact is to use the new "htm_notune" flag > and compare > its performance with the non-changed libitm that I use as a baseline above. > The average results are similar, without any trend noticeable outside > the standard > deviation for one side or the other. > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Also, note that the mitigation strategy for rdtsc >> >> > short-comings that you mention in the paper is not applicable in >> >> > general, specifically not in libitm. >> >> >> >> >> >> I suppose you mean the preemption of threads inflating the cycles >> >> measured? >> > >> > Yes, preemption and migration of threads (in case there's no global >> > sync'ed TSC or similar) -- you mentioned in the paper that you pin >> > threads to cores... >> > >> >> This would be similarly a problem to any time source that tries to
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Torvald Riegel wrote: > > First of all, sorry for taking so long to review this. Thank you for > the contribution. Hello Torvald, thanks for taking the time to look into this! > My major concern is about rdtsc being used. The relation to frequency > adaption that Andi mentioned is one issue, but the bigger issue to me is > that the runtime of transactions might vary a lot, and that the relation > of txnal vs. nontxnal code executed in a period might vary a lot too. Once again, I believe that frequency scaling should not be a concern: recent CPUs use a constant rate TSC that matches that of the maximum frequency of the CPU. > > Are there better options for the utility function, or can we tune it to > be less affected by varying txn length and likelihood of txnal vs. > nontxnal code? What are the things we want to avoid with the tuning? I > can think of: > * Not needing to wait for serial txns, or being aborted by a serial txn. > * Not retrying using HTM too much so that the retry time is larger than > the scalability we actually gain by having other txns commit > concurrently. Yes, those are the key points we want to make sure that do not happen. > > > Anything else? Did you consider other utility functions during your > research? The txnal vs nontxnal is indeed a completely different story. To account for this we would need extra book-keeping to count only cycles spent inside txnal code. So this would require every thread (or a sample of threads) to perform a rdtsc (or equivalent) on every begin/end call rather than the current approach of a single rdtsc per optimization round. With this type of online optimization we found that the algorithm had to be very simple and cheap to execute. RDTSC was a good finding to fit this, and it enabled us to obtain gains. Other time sources failed to do so. I do not have, out of the box, a good alternative to offer. I suppose it would take some iterations of thinking/experimenting with, just like with any research problem :) > Also, note that the mitigation strategy for rdtsc > short-comings that you mention in the paper is not applicable in > general, specifically not in libitm. I suppose you mean the preemption of threads inflating the cycles measured? This would be similarly a problem to any time source that tries to measure the amount of work performed; not sure how we can avoid it in general. Any thoughts? > Another issue is that we need to implement the tuning in a portable way. > You currently make it depend on whether the assembler knows about RTM, > whereas the rest of the code makes this more portable and defers to > arch-specific files. I'd prefer if we could use the tuning on other > archs too. But for that, we need to cleanly separate generic from > arch-specific parts. That affects magic numbers as well as things like > rdtsc(). Yes, I refrained from adding new calls to the arch-specific files, to contain the changes mainly. But that is possible and that's part of the feedback I was hoping to get. > Generally, the patch needs to include more comments. Most importantly, > we need to document why we implemented things the way we did, or do > tuning the way we do. In cases where the intent isn't trivial to see > nor the code is trivial, explain the intent or reference the place where > you document the big picture. > A good rule of thumb is adding comments whenever it's not simple to see > why we use one of several possible implementation alternatives. > > The magic numbers being used are a good example. Make them constants > and don't just put them directly in the code, and then add documentation > why you chose this number and why it's okay to make that choice. If it > isn't necessarily okay (eg, other archs, future systems), but you don't > have a better solution right now, add something like "??? Not ideal > because of XYZ.". If there's a source for some of the magic numbers, > cite it (e.g., [28] in your paper might be one for the tuning > thresholds, I guess). Ack, makes perfect sense. > Reoptimizing only in a specific, fixed thread is insufficient in the > general case. There may be a thread that only runs an initial txn and > then never another one; if this happens to be the last thread > registered, you'll never get any tuning. If we want the tuning to be > effective, one of the threads *actively* running txns needs to tune > eventually, always. > > Depending on that, you'll probably have to change the sync between the > tuning thread and others. Serial mode may be a simple way to do that. > It may be possible to only check for tuning being necessary when in > serial mode. It could be possible that we end up trying HTM too often > yet never go to serial mode; however, that seems unlikely to me (but I > haven't thought thoroughly about it). > > Also, please remember that only data-race-free code is strictly correct > C++ code (the only exception being the validated-loads
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
m_thr(); - if (unlikely(tx == NULL)) -{ - // See below. - tx = new gtm_thread(); - set_gtm_thr(tx); -} + tx = gtm_thr(); + if (unlikely(tx == NULL)) +{ + // See below. + tx = new gtm_thread(); + set_gtm_thr(tx); +} // Check whether there is an enclosing serial-mode transaction; // if so, we just continue as a nested transaction and don't // try to use the HTM fastpath. This case can happen when an @@ -262,12 +500,26 @@ GTM::gtm_thread::begin_transaction (uint32_t prop, // other fallback will use serial transactions, which don't use // restart_total but will reset it when committing. if (!(prop & pr_HTMRetriedAfterAbort)) - tx->restart_total = htm_fastpath; +tx->restart_total = optimizer.optimized_attempts; if (--tx->restart_total > 0) { // Wait until any concurrent serial-mode transactions have finished. // Essentially the same code as above. +#ifdef HAVE_AS_RTM + if (prop & pr_HTMCapacityAbort) +{ + gtm_capacity_abort_mode capacity_mode = optimizer.optimized_mode; + if (capacity_mode == HALVEN) +tx->restart_total = tx->restart_total; + else if (capacity_mode == GIVEUP) +goto stop_custom_htm_fastpath; +} + + if (unlikely(tx->next_thread == NULL && + tx->number_executed_txns % 500 == 0 && tx->restart_total == 1)) + reoptimize_htm_execution(); +#endif if (serial_lock.is_write_locked()) { if (tx->nesting > 0) @@ -665,12 +917,21 @@ _ITM_commitTransaction(void) if (likely(htm_fastpath && !gtm_thread::serial_lock.is_write_locked())) { htm_commit(); + gtm_thread *tx = gtm_thr(); + if (unlikely(tx == NULL)) +{ + tx = new gtm_thread(); + set_gtm_thr(tx); +} + tx->number_executed_txns++; return; } #endif gtm_thread *tx = gtm_thr(); if (!tx->trycommit ()) tx->restart (RESTART_VALIDATE_COMMIT); + + tx->number_executed_txns++; } void ITM_REGPARM @@ -681,6 +942,13 @@ _ITM_commitTransactionEH(void *exc_ptr) if (likely(htm_fastpath && !gtm_thread::serial_lock.is_write_locked())) { htm_commit(); + gtm_thread *tx = gtm_thr(); + if (unlikely(tx == NULL)) +{ + tx = new gtm_thread(); + set_gtm_thr(tx); +} + tx->number_executed_txns++; return; } #endif @@ -690,4 +958,5 @@ _ITM_commitTransactionEH(void *exc_ptr) tx->eh_in_flight = exc_ptr; tx->restart (RESTART_VALIDATE_COMMIT); } + tx->number_executed_txns++; } Index: libitm/config/x86/target.h === --- libitm/config/x86/target.h (revision 219316) +++ libitm/config/x86/target.h (working copy) @@ -126,12 +126,25 @@ htm_abort_should_retry (uint32_t begin_ret) return begin_ret & _XABORT_RETRY; } +static inline bool +htm_is_capacity_abort(uint32_t begin_ret) +{ + return begin_ret & _XABORT_CAPACITY; +} + /* Returns true iff a hardware transaction is currently being executed. */ static inline bool htm_transaction_active () { return _xtest() != 0; } + +static inline uint64_t rdtsc() +{ +uint32_t hi, lo; +__asm__ __volatile__ ("rdtsc" : "=a"(lo), "=d"(hi)); +return ( (unsigned long long)lo)|( ((unsigned long long)hi)<<32 ); +} #endif Index: libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S === --- libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S (revision 219316) +++ libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S (working copy) @@ -59,12 +59,14 @@ #define pr_hasNoAbort 0x08 #define pr_HTMRetryableAbort 0x80 #define pr_HTMRetriedAfterAbort 0x100 +#define pr_HTMCapacityAbort 0x200 #define a_runInstrumentedCode 0x01 #define a_runUninstrumentedCode 0x02 #define a_tryHTMFastPath 0x20 #define _XABORT_EXPLICIT (1 << 0) #define _XABORT_RETRY (1 << 1) +#define _XABORT_CAPACITY (1 << 3) .text @@ -108,9 +110,12 @@ SYM(_ITM_beginTransaction): .Ltxn_abort: /* If it might make sense to retry the HTM fast path, let the C++ code decide. */ - testl $(_XABORT_RETRY|_XABORT_EXPLICIT), %eax + testl $(_XABORT_RETRY|_XABORT_EXPLICIT|_XABORT_CAPACITY), %eax jz .Lno_htm orl $pr_HTMRetryableAbort, %edi + testl $(_XABORT_CAPACITY), %eax + jz .Lno_htm + orl $pr_HTMCapacityAbort, %edi /* Let the C++ code handle the retry policy. */ .Lno_htm: #endif On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > Nuno Diegues writes: >> >> One general question on how to proceed: >> given that I make some further changes, should I post the whole patch again? > > Yes please resend the patch. > > -Andi
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
> Patch looks good to me now. It would be perhaps nice to have an > environment variable to turn the adaptive algorithm off for tests, > but that's not critical. Yes, that makes perfect sense. > It would be also nice to test it on something else, but I understand > it's difficult to find other software using the STM syntax. Indeed. I'll try to find some time to work on that, but it may take a while. > I can't approve the patch however. I believe it's big enough that you > may need a copy right assignment. I have signed a Form Assignment from the Free Software Foundation to deal exactly with those matters for this patch to the libitm. Torvald Riegel had advised me to do so. I have not, however, received any further information; so I'm left wondering if it went through or if it is still hanging. I will ping back to FSF to check that out perhaps? Best regards, -- Nuno Diegues > > -Andi > > -- > a...@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Today I have received the news that the Copyright Assignment was completed with the FSF. On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nuno Diegues wrote: > > > Patch looks good to me now. It would be perhaps nice to have an > > environment variable to turn the adaptive algorithm off for tests, > > but that's not critical. > > Yes, that makes perfect sense. > > > > It would be also nice to test it on something else, but I understand > > it's difficult to find other software using the STM syntax. > > Indeed. I'll try to find some time to work on that, but it may take a while. > > > > I can't approve the patch however. I believe it's big enough that you > > may need a copy right assignment. > > I have signed a Form Assignment from the Free Software Foundation to > deal exactly with those matters for this patch to the libitm. Torvald > Riegel had advised me to do so. > > I have not, however, received any further information; so I'm left > wondering if it went through or if it is still hanging. I will ping > back to FSF to check that out perhaps? > > > Best regards, > -- Nuno Diegues > > > > > > > -Andi > > > > -- > > a...@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only
[PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Hi, the libitm package contains a fast path for x86 to use Intel Restricted Transactional Memory (RTM) when available. This Hardware Transactional Memory (HTM) requires a software-based fallback to execute the atomic blocks when the hardware fails. This may happen because the transaction is too large, for instance. In fact, the performance of this HTM (and others that are equivalently best-effort) depends significantly on that interplay between the hardware and the software fallback. Wide experimentation showed that there does not seem to exist a single configuration for that fallback that can perform best independently of the application and workload [2]. Hence, in the scope of my work I have developed a self-tuning approach that exploits lightweight reinforcement learning techniques to identify the optimal RTM configuration in a workload-oblivious manner, i.e., not requiring any off-line sampling of the application. The implementation in this patch follows closely the following work: [1] "Self-Tuning Intel Transactional Synchronization Extensions", Nuno Diegues and Paolo Romano, Proceedings of the International Conference on Autonomic Computing, ICAC 2014 http://homepages.gsd.inesc-id.pt/~ndiegues/files/icac14-ndiegues.pdf [2] "Virtues and Limitations of Commodity Hardware Transactional Memory", Nuno Diegues, Paolo Romano, and Luis Rodrigues, Proceedings of the International Conference on Parallel Architectures and Compiler Techniques, PACT 2014 The copyright assignment for this is still in progress. Also, please bear in mind that this is my first (ever) attempt to contribute to GCC. As such, any suggestion (as simple as it may seem) will be most welcome. Output of: "svn diff --extensions -u" Index: libitm/method-serial.cc === --- libitm/method-serial.cc (revision 219316) +++ libitm/method-serial.cc (working copy) @@ -223,7 +223,23 @@ struct htm_mg : public method_group // initially disabled. #ifdef USE_HTM_FASTPATH htm_fastpath = htm_init(); +#ifdef HAVE_AS_RTM +optimizer.optimized_mode = STUBBORN; +optimizer.optimized_attempts = htm_fastpath; +optimizer.last_cycles = rdtsc(); +optimizer.last_total_txs_executed = 0; +optimizer.last_throughput = 0.0; +optimizer.last_attempts = htm_fastpath > 0 ? htm_fastpath - 1 : 1; +optimizer.best_ever_throughput = 0.0; +optimizer.best_ever_attempts = htm_fastpath; +optimizer.txns_while_stubborn = 1; +optimizer.cycles_while_stubborn = 100; +optimizer.txns_while_halven = 1; +optimizer.cycles_while_halven = 100; +optimizer.txns_while_giveup = 1; +optimizer.cycles_while_giveup = 100; #endif +#endif } virtual void fini() { Index: libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S === --- libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S (revision 219316) +++ libitm/config/x86/sjlj.S (working copy) @@ -59,12 +59,14 @@ #define pr_hasNoAbort 0x08 #define pr_HTMRetryableAbort 0x80 #define pr_HTMRetriedAfterAbort 0x100 +#define pr_HTMCapacityAbort 0x200 #define a_runInstrumentedCode 0x01 #define a_runUninstrumentedCode 0x02 #define a_tryHTMFastPath 0x20 #define _XABORT_EXPLICIT (1 << 0) #define _XABORT_RETRY (1 << 1) +#define _XABORT_CAPACITY (1 << 3) .text @@ -108,9 +110,12 @@ SYM(_ITM_beginTransaction): .Ltxn_abort: /* If it might make sense to retry the HTM fast path, let the C++ code decide. */ - testl $(_XABORT_RETRY|_XABORT_EXPLICIT), %eax + testl $(_XABORT_RETRY|_XABORT_EXPLICIT|_XABORT_CAPACITY), %eax jz .Lno_htm orl $pr_HTMRetryableAbort, %edi + testl $(_XABORT_CAPACITY), %eax + jz .Lno_htm + orl $pr_HTMCapacityAbort, %edi /* Let the C++ code handle the retry policy. */ .Lno_htm: #endif Index: libitm/config/x86/target.h === --- libitm/config/x86/target.h (revision 219316) +++ libitm/config/x86/target.h (working copy) @@ -126,12 +126,25 @@ htm_abort_should_retry (uint32_t begin_ret) return begin_ret & _XABORT_RETRY; } +static inline bool +htm_is_capacity_abort(uint32_t begin_ret) +{ + return begin_ret & _XABORT_CAPACITY; +} + /* Returns true iff a hardware transaction is currently being executed. */ static inline bool htm_transaction_active () { return _xtest() != 0; } + +static inline uint64_t rdtsc() +{ +uint32_t hi, lo; +__asm__ __volatile__ ("rdtsc" : "=a"(lo), "=d"(hi)); +return ( (unsigned long long)lo)|( ((unsigned long long)hi)<<32 ); +} #endif Index: libitm/libitm_i.h === --- libitm/libitm_i.h (revision 219316) +++ libitm/libitm_i.h (working copy) @@ -242,6 +242,9 @@ struct gtm_thread uint32_t restart_reason[NUM_RESTARTS]; uint32_t restart_total; + // Keeps track of how many transactio
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Thank you for the feedback. Comments inline. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Nuno Diegues writes: > > What workloads did you test this on? On the STAMP suite of benchmarks for transactional memory (described here [1]). I have ran an unmodified GCC 5.0.0 against the patched GCC with these modifications and obtain the following speedups in STAMP with 4 threads (on a Haswell with 4 cores, average 10 runs): benchmarks: speedup genome: 1.32 intruder: 1.66 labyrinth: 1.00 ssca2: 1.02 yada: 1.00 kmeans-high: 1.13 kmeans-low: 1.10 vacation-high: 2.27 vacation-low: 1.88 [1] Chi Cao Minh, JaeWoong Chung, Christos Kozyrakis, Kunle Olukotun: STAMP: Stanford Transactional Applications for Multi-Processing. IISWC 2008: 35-46 > > Are you sure you need floating point here? If the program does not > use it in any other ways faulting in the floating point state can be > quite expensive. > > I bet fixed point would work for such simple purposes too. That is a good point. While I haven't ever used fixed point arithmetic, a cursory inspection reveals that it does make sense and seems applicable to this case. Are you aware of some place where this is being done already within GCC that I could use as inspiration, or should I craft some macros from scratch for this? > > + serial_lock.read_unlock(tx); > > + > > + // Obtain the delta performance with respect to the last period. > > + uint64_t current_cycles = rdtsc(); > > + uint64_t cycles_used = current_cycles - optimizer.last_cycles; > > It may be worth pointing out that rdtsc does not return cycles. > In fact the ratio to real cycles is variable depending on the changing > frequency. > I hope your algorithms can handle that. The intent here is to obtain some notion of time passed with a low cost. RDTSC seemed to be the best choice around: it is not critical that the frequency of the processor may change the relativity of the returned value with respect to actual cpu cycles. > > + > > + // Compute gradient descent for the number of retries. > > + double change_for_better = current_throughput / > > optimizer.last_throughput; > > + double change_for_worse = optimizer.last_throughput / current_throughput; > > + int32_t last_attempts = optimizer.last_attempts; > > + int32_t current_attempts = optimizer.optimized_attempts; > > + int32_t new_attempts = current_attempts; > > + if (unlikely(change_for_worse > 1.40)) > > +{ > > + optimizer.optimized_attempts = optimizer.best_ever_attempts; > > + optimizer.last_throughput = current_throughput; > > + optimizer.last_attempts = current_attempts; > > + return; > > +} > > + > > + if (unlikely(random() % 100 < 1)) > > +{ > > So where is the seed for that random stored? Could you corrupt some > user's random state? Is the state per thread or global? > If it's per thread how do you initialize so that they threads do > start with different seeds. > If it's global what synchronizes it? As I do not specify any seed, I was under the impression that there would be a default initialization. Furthermore, the posix documentation specifies random() to be MT-safe, so I assumed its internal state to be per-thread. Did I mis-interpret this? With regard to the self-tuning state, it is kept within the "gtm_global_optimizer optimizer" struct, which is in essence multi-reader (any thread running transactions can check the struct to use the parameters optimized in it) and single-writer (notice that the "void GTM::gtm_thread::reoptimize_htm_execution()" function is called only by one thread, the one at the end of the list of threads, i.e., whose tx->next_thread == NULL). > > Overall the algorithm looks very complicated with many mysterious magic > numbers. Are there simplifications possible? While the retry path is not > extremely critical it should be at least somewhat optimized, otherwise > it will dominate the cost of short transactions. > > One problems with so many magic numbers is that they may be good on one > system, but bad on another. Notice that the retry path is barely changed in the common case: only a designated thread (the last one in the list of threads registered in libitm) will periodically execute the re-optimization. Hence, most of the patch that you can see here is code execute in that (uncommon case). I understand the concern with magic numbers: we could self-tune them as well, but that would surely increase the complexity of the patch :) In essence, we have the following numbers at the moment: * how often we re-optimize (every 500 successful transactions for the designated thread) * how many maximum attempts we can have in hardware (20) * how much better and worse the perfor
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: >> On the STAMP suite of benchmarks for transactional memory (described here >> [1]). >> I have ran an unmodified GCC 5.0.0 against the patched GCC with these >> modifications and obtain the following speedups in STAMP with 4 >> threads (on a Haswell with 4 cores, average 10 runs): > > I expect you'll need different tunings on larger systems. I did not quite understand the extent of your comment: what specifically would need different tuning? The idea is exactly that this proposal does not have any attachment to the workload/deployment; there are some parameters (aka, the magic numbers we discussed) but they are quite reasonable, i.e., each one of them has a sensible value with some meaning we understand. > >> That is a good point. While I haven't ever used fixed point >> arithmetic, a cursory inspection reveals that it does make sense and >> seems applicable to this case. >> Are you aware of some place where this is being done already within >> GCC that I could use as inspiration, or should I craft some macros >> from scratch for this? > > I believe the inliner uses fixed point. Own macros should be fine too. Thanks, will try this out. > >> > > + int32_t last_attempts = optimizer.last_attempts; >> > > + int32_t current_attempts = optimizer.optimized_attempts; >> > > + int32_t new_attempts = current_attempts; >> > > + if (unlikely(change_for_worse > 1.40)) >> > > +{ >> > > + optimizer.optimized_attempts = optimizer.best_ever_attempts; >> > > + optimizer.last_throughput = current_throughput; >> > > + optimizer.last_attempts = current_attempts; >> > > + return; >> > > +} >> > > + >> > > + if (unlikely(random() % 100 < 1)) >> > > +{ >> > >> > So where is the seed for that random stored? Could you corrupt some >> > user's random state? Is the state per thread or global? >> > If it's per thread how do you initialize so that they threads do >> > start with different seeds. >> > If it's global what synchronizes it? >> >> As I do not specify any seed, I was under the impression that there >> would be a default initialization. Furthermore, the posix >> documentation specifies random() to be MT-safe, so I assumed its >> internal state to be per-thread. >> Did I mis-interpret this? > > Yes, that's right. But it's very nasty to change the users RNG state. > A common pattern for repeatable benchmarks is to start with srand(1) > and then use the random numbers to run the benchmark, so it always does > the same thing. If you non deterministically (transaction aborts are not > deterministic) change the random state it will make the benchmark not > repeatable anymore. You'll need to use an own RNG state that it independent. I understand your concern, thanks for raising it. One general question on how to proceed: given that I make some further changes, should I post the whole patch again? Best regards, -- Nuno Diegues > > It would be good to see if any parts of the algorithm can be > simplified. In general in production software the goal is to have > the simplest algorithm that does the job. > > -Andi > -- > a...@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Hello everyone, just wanted to ping back to say that I have been overwhelmed with work and will be back on this as soon as possible, most likely during July. Best regards, -- Nuno Diegues On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Torvald Riegel wrote: > On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 23:27 -0400, Nuno Diegues wrote: >> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Torvald Riegel wrote: >> > >> > Are there better options for the utility function, or can we tune it to >> > be less affected by varying txn length and likelihood of txnal vs. >> > nontxnal code? What are the things we want to avoid with the tuning? I >> > can think of: >> > * Not needing to wait for serial txns, or being aborted by a serial txn. >> > * Not retrying using HTM too much so that the retry time is larger than >> > the scalability we actually gain by having other txns commit >> > concurrently. >> >> >> Yes, those are the key points we want to make sure that do not happen. >> >> > >> > >> > Anything else? Did you consider other utility functions during your >> > research? >> >> >> The txnal vs nontxnal is indeed a completely different story. To account for >> this we would need extra book-keeping to count only cycles spent inside >> txnal code. So this would require every thread (or a sample of threads) to >> perform a rdtsc (or equivalent) on every begin/end call rather than the >> current approach of a single rdtsc per optimization round. >> >> With this type of online optimization we found that the algorithm had to be >> very simple and cheap to execute. RDTSC was a good finding to fit this, and >> it enabled us to obtain gains. Other time sources failed to do so. >> >> I do not have, out of the box, a good alternative to offer. I suppose it >> would >> take some iterations of thinking/experimenting with, just like with any >> research >> problem :) > > So let's iterate on this in parallel with the other changes that we need > to get in place. I'd prefer to have some more confidence that measuring > txn throughput in epochs is the best way forward. > > Here are a few thoughts: > > Why do we actually need to measure succeeded transactions? If a HW txn > is just getting committed without interfering with anything else, is > this really different from, say, two HW txns getting committed? Aren't > we really just interested in wasted work, or delayed txns? That may > help taking care of the nontxnal vs. txnal problem. > > Measuring committed txns during a time that might otherwise be spent by > a serial txns could be useful to figure out how much other useful work a > serial txn prevents. But we'd see that as well if we'd just go serial > during the auto-tuning because then concurrent txns will have to wait; > and in this case we could measure it in the slow path of those > concurrent txns (ie, during waiting, where measurement overhead wouldn't > matter as much). > > If a serial txn is running, concurrent txns (that wait) are free to sync > and tell the serial how much cost it creates for the concurrent txns. > There, txn length could matter, but we won't find out for real until > after the concurrent ones have run (they could be pretty short, so we > can't simply assume that the concurrent ones are as long as the serial > one, so that simply the number of concurrent ones can be used to > calculate delayed work). > >> >> > Also, note that the mitigation strategy for rdtsc >> > short-comings that you mention in the paper is not applicable in >> > general, specifically not in libitm. >> >> >> I suppose you mean the preemption of threads inflating the cycles measured? > > Yes, preemption and migration of threads (in case there's no global > sync'ed TSC or similar) -- you mentioned in the paper that you pin > threads to cores... > >> This would be similarly a problem to any time source that tries to measure >> the >> amount of work performed; not sure how we can avoid it in general. Any >> thoughts? > > Not really as long as we keep depending on measuring time in a > light-weight way. Measuring smaller time intervals could make it less > likely that preemption happens during such an interval, though. > >> >> > Another issue is that we need to implement the tuning in a portable way. >> > You currently make it depend on whether the assembler knows about RTM, >> > whereas the rest of the code makes this more portable and defers to >> > arch-specific files. I'd prefer if we could use the tuning on other >> > archs
Re: [PATCH] add self-tuning to x86 hardware fast path in libitm
Hello everyone, after a summer internship and some backlog catching up in the past weeks, I have finally got around to review the patch according to the latest discussion. The changes have not caused regression, and the latest speedup results are coherent with what we had before. In the following I add some comments inline to the discussion, and after that paste the updated patch. > > > > So let's iterate on this in parallel with the other changes that we need > > to get in place. I'd prefer to have some more confidence that measuring > > txn throughput in epochs is the best way forward. > > > > Here are a few thoughts: > > > > Why do we actually need to measure succeeded transactions? If a HW txn > > is just getting committed without interfering with anything else, is > > this really different from, say, two HW txns getting committed? Aren't > > we really just interested in wasted work, or delayed txns? That may > > help taking care of the nontxnal vs. txnal problem. > > > > Measuring committed txns during a time that might otherwise be spent by > > a serial txns could be useful to figure out how much other useful work a > > serial txn prevents. But we'd see that as well if we'd just go serial > > during the auto-tuning because then concurrent txns will have to wait; > > and in this case we could measure it in the slow path of those > > concurrent txns (ie, during waiting, where measurement overhead wouldn't > > matter as much). > > > > If a serial txn is running, concurrent txns (that wait) are free to sync > > and tell the serial how much cost it creates for the concurrent txns. > > There, txn length could matter, but we won't find out for real until > > after the concurrent ones have run (they could be pretty short, so we > > can't simply assume that the concurrent ones are as long as the serial > > one, so that simply the number of concurrent ones can be used to > > calculate delayed work). I understand you concern: measuring failure in a slow path rather than success in the fast/common path. My problem is that the approach taken in our work is tailored for accessing one given metric, in our case some form of throughput of successfully executed atomic blocks. However, to measure failure, we seem to need two things: 1) the rate of failed hardware transactions 2) the time spent waiting for the serial lock In short, the performance will be bad if there is a mix of those two issues that is bad enough. The problem is how to define a metric that considers those two together? It is not obvious to me that there is one. Furthermore, that deviates significantly from our approach, and in the end --- even if there is a solution that works in that way --- that is a different approach, not one that can be applied to our self-tuning framework. What we are doing right now is incrementing a counter in a (most likely cached line) that is single-writer and multiple-reader. Most often, it will be owned by the single-writer. As such, the cost should be quite negligible compared to the execution of the atomic block, more so in the case that a Hardware transaction was used, as the commit itself should be a hundred cycles or more. A good way to measure this impact is to use the new "htm_notune" flag and compare its performance with the non-changed libitm that I use as a baseline above. The average results are similar, without any trend noticeable outside the standard deviation for one side or the other. > > > > >> > >> > Also, note that the mitigation strategy for rdtsc > >> > short-comings that you mention in the paper is not applicable in > >> > general, specifically not in libitm. > >> > >> > >> I suppose you mean the preemption of threads inflating the cycles measured? > > > > Yes, preemption and migration of threads (in case there's no global > > sync'ed TSC or similar) -- you mentioned in the paper that you pin > > threads to cores... > > > >> This would be similarly a problem to any time source that tries to measure > >> the > >> amount of work performed; not sure how we can avoid it in general. Any > >> thoughts? > > > > Not really as long as we keep depending on measuring time in a > > light-weight way. Measuring smaller time intervals could make it less > > likely that preemption happens during such an interval, though. > > Note that in this patch we use no such pinning. In fact, I've measured that it does not have a noticeable impact in performance. Maybe that could be the case with heavy over-subscription of the cores with lots of threads. Still, it is not a correctness issue, so I believe that the fact this performs great in the common case should make it prevail. > > >> > >> > Another issue is that we need to implement the tuning in a portable way. > >> > You currently make it depend on whether the assembler knows about RTM, > >> > whereas the rest of the code makes this more portable and defers to > >> > arch-specific files. I'd prefer if we could use the tuning on other > >> >