Re: Debugging the tree object constructed by cp_parser

2023-12-03 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Sat, 2023-12-02 at 17:41 -0500, Stan Srednyak via Gcc wrote:
> Dear GCC community,
> 
> I am assigned the task to debug the trees as being produced by the
> cp_parser. I was able to print some of the trees using the
> debug_tree()
> function. But I am still confused as to where is the tree object that
> corresponds to the translation unit being parsed. There is no such
> field in
> cp_parser, and in the few tiers of functions calls starting from
> parse_file() function that I followed so far, I was not able to find
> any
> variable remotely similar to the AST of functions/structs etc. that
> must be
> constructed by this great piece of software. I would very much
> appreciate
> any explanation from the great experts in gcc on this mailing list. I
> posted a thread at gcc-help, but apparently it is too obvious of a
> question
> to be addressed there.

Hi Stan

FWIW I've written some notes on debugging GCC:
https://gcc-newbies-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/debugging.html

and in particular you might find the following useful:
https://gcc-newbies-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/debugging.html#how-do-i-find-where-a-particular-tree-was-created

Hope this is helpful
Dave



GNAT on GCC 10.x has build problems

2023-12-03 Thread Dave Blanchard
Hello all, while bootstrapping GNAT onto my cross compiled system with GCC 10.x 
I found that the make script leaves something to be desired. 

First off it doesn't add the host prefix to the cross compiler binaries; it 
calls gnatmake, gnatlink, gnatbind, gnatls, and gcc without the 
x86_64-linux-gnu- prefix, requiring an ugly hack to symlink to those tools to 
complete the build. Also at the end of the build there is an error when it 
tries to install gnatdll, which isn't built, doesn't exist, and is for Windows 
only. 

Does anyone know if these problems are fixed in later GCC versions? And do 
these people even test their obviously broken crap before releasing it on the 
world?

I also note that the AdaCore team seem to be doing everything in their power to 
railroad people into giving them money for their proprietary compiler. First 
they disabled C and C++ languages in their 2018-up Community Edition binaries, 
which makes bootstrapping a full GCC impossible with these tools. I guess that 
didn't do the trick as people just used older CE releases to bootstrap with 
instead, so they discontinued CE entirely and removed links to the CE download 
page from their site, making it hard to find unless one knows what to search 
for. 

I've also been told that there is some kind of special licensing clause for the 
GNAT project which requires all code built by their GPL compiler to be GPL3 
licensed, which is a laugh as I'm never doing that. Not sure if that's actually 
true or not. 

Anyhow, it's surprising (or should be surprising) to see such shoddy 
workmanship from an anti-freedom commercial organization joined to the hip with 
GCC.

Dave



Re: GNAT on GCC 10.x has build problems

2023-12-03 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, 18:19 Dave Blanchard,  wrote:

> Hello all, while bootstrapping GNAT onto my cross compiled system with GCC
> 10.x I found that the make script leaves something to be desired.
>
> First off it doesn't add the host prefix to the cross compiler binaries;
> it calls gnatmake, gnatlink, gnatbind, gnatls, and gcc without the
> x86_64-linux-gnu- prefix, requiring an ugly hack to symlink to those tools
> to complete the build. Also at the end of the build there is an error when
> it tries to install gnatdll, which isn't built, doesn't exist, and is for
> Windows only.
>
> Does anyone know if these problems are fixed in later GCC versions? And do
> these people even test their obviously broken crap before releasing it on
> the world?
>

You know it's possible to ask for help without acting this way?

However, please use the gcc-help list to do so, not this one.


> I also note that the AdaCore team seem to be doing everything in their
> power to railroad people into giving them money for their proprietary
> compiler. First they disabled C and C++ languages in their 2018-up
> Community Edition binaries, which makes bootstrapping a full GCC impossible
> with these tools. I guess that didn't do the trick as people just used
> older CE releases to bootstrap with instead, so they discontinued CE
> entirely and removed links to the CE download page from their site, making
> it hard to find unless one knows what to search for.
>
> I've also been told that there is some kind of special licensing clause
> for the GNAT project which requires all code built by their GPL compiler to
> be GPL3 licensed, which is a laugh as I'm never doing that. Not sure if
> that's actually true or not.
>
> Anyhow, it's surprising (or should be surprising) to see such shoddy
> workmanship from an anti-freedom commercial organization joined to the hip
> with GCC.
>
> Dave
>
>


Re: GNAT on GCC 10.x has build problems

2023-12-03 Thread Dave Blanchard
Did you know it's possible to read my post and ruminate upon its meaning 
without responding this way? I bet you didn't know that.

I'm not asking for any of your 'help', in case it wasn't obvious. I'm quite 
used to solving the GCC project's problems myself by now, since the GCC project 
seems determined not to fix its own problems, judging by the typical 
commonplace response of ingrates such as yourself. I simply asked if this 
broken piece of shit--which should have been designed correctly decades ago but 
somehow isn't--has finally been fixed, or if it continues to be a broken piece 
of shit. 

Dave



gcc-14-20231203 is now available

2023-12-03 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
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