Identifying contributors
I believe I'm down to only 34 unidentified contributors out of 290. Could someone send me a copy of the password file (or at least the username and gecos fields) for the Subversion host? In some of the remaining cases I could make guesses, but I'd prefer not to guess. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: Moving to git
Jason Merrill writes: > > You don't even need to worry about the hash code, you can use the > timestamp by itself. Given the timestamp, > > git log -1 --until 1440153969 Consider tree merges. There's no guarantee a time stamp maps to monotonically increasing commit numbers. But I don't really understand the problem. Just run git log and generate your own list of numbers. Should be straight forward to script. -Andi -- a...@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only
Action stamps (was: Re: Moving to git)
Andi Kleen : > But I don't really understand the problem. Just run git log > and generate your own list of numbers. Should be straight forward > to script. I can tell you from experience with lots of conversions that this, and the other proposals in the thread, are what our British friends call "too clever by half". One defect is that they assume SHA hashes of commits will be valid forever. But this assumnption could easily break if either (a) the repository requires surgery in he future, or (b) GCC ever changes version-control systems again. What I usually do with old commit references in comments is map them to what I call an "action stamp" - a user ID followed by an RFC3339 date. While this is theoretically not quite adequate, in practice collisions are rare to nonexistent. Action stamps have the major advantages that they are self-describing and should remain valid and scrutable in the future under any reasonable transformation of the repository. Jason should make the policy decision, but this is what I recommend. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: Identifying contributors
On 26 August 2015 at 16:52, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I believe I'm down to only 34 unidentified contributors out of 290. > > Could someone send me a copy of the password file (or at least the > username and gecos fields) for the Subversion host? In some of the > remaining cases I could make guesses, but I'd prefer not to guess. Sent offlist.
Re: Identifying contributors
Jonathan Wakely : > On 26 August 2015 at 16:52, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I believe I'm down to only 34 unidentified contributors out of 290. > > > > Could someone send me a copy of the password file (or at least the > > username and gecos fields) for the Subversion host? In some of the > > remaining cases I could make guesses, but I'd prefer not to guess. > > Sent offlist. And I'm working on a reusable tool to generate a contributor map from a passwd file now. Or, as in this case. merge the passwd data into an existing contributor map and sanity-check the results. I should have done this much sooner - I don't know why it didn't occur to me years ago. It will speed up future conversions. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
33 unknowns left
After comparing with the Subversion hists, passswd file, the are 30 unknowns left. Can anyone identify any of these? aluchko = aluchko bo = bo bson = bson cks = cks click = click dennisg = dennisg erik = erik fp = fp friedman = friedman fx = fx hassey = hassey ira = ira irar = irar jrv = jrv jtw = jtw karl = karl kristerw = kristerw matthewg = matthewg membar = membar mib = mib miles = miles mkoch = mkoch moore = moore mycroft = mycroft rolfh = rolfh srladd = srladd steven = steven thomas = thomas woepaul = woepaul wood = wood -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 01:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: mib = mib Michael Bushnell. Aagain, not active in forever. m...@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu probably doesn't work anymore. miles = miles Miles Bader. mi...@gnu.ai.mit.edu mkoch = mkoch Michael Koch? konque...@gmx.de/ moore = moore Catherine, Tim? mycroft = mycroft Charles Hannum. Hasn't been active in forever. mycr...@gnu.ai.mit.edu probably doesn't work anymore. Might help if we had a reference to one or more changes from the folks. Just knowing timeframes for example would likely resolve . Jeff
Re: 33 unknowns left
On August 26, 2015 9:31:20 PM GMT+02:00, "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: >After comparing with the Subversion hists, passswd file, the are 30 >unknowns left. Can anyone identify any of these? > >aluchko = aluchko >bo = bo >bson = bson >cks = cks >click = click >dennisg = dennisg >erik = erik >fp = fp >friedman = friedman >fx = fx >hassey = hassey >ira = ira >irar = irar Ira Rosen Did you consider looking at past changes to MAINTAINERS? All committees should have appeared there (usually with e-mails not equal to their gcc.gnu.org username though). And all committers did their initial commit with a change adding themselves to MAINTAINERS. Richard. >jrv = jrv >jtw = jtw >karl = karl >kristerw = kristerw >matthewg = matthewg >membar = membar >mib = mib >miles = miles >mkoch = mkoch >moore = moore >mycroft = mycroft >rolfh = rolfh >srladd = srladd >steven = steven >thomas = thomas >woepaul = woepaul >wood = wood
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Jeff Law wrote: > On 08/26/2015 01:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >>> >>> mib = mib > > Michael Bushnell. Aagain, not active in forever. m...@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu > probably doesn't work anymore. This person (not quite sure how to say this) changed his name to Thomas Bushnell. His public e-mail address seems to be t...@becket.net. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
Jeff Law : > On 08/26/2015 01:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > >>mib = mib > Michael Bushnell. Aagain, not active in forever. m...@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu > probably doesn't work anymore. > > >miles = miles > Miles Bader. mi...@gnu.ai.mit.edu > > >mycroft = mycroft > Charles Hannum. Hasn't been active in forever. mycr...@gnu.ai.mit.edu > probably doesn't work anymore. Right, I recognize these people as long-time hard-core GNU contributors. It would be a bit surprising if they *weren't* in the history anywhere. Adding them now... For archival purposes it's not so important whether the address still works. What we want is to be able to identify these with other attributions to the same person that might show up in different repo conversions or on reputation-database sites like OpenHub, and distinguish them from different people with the name name-among-humans. For this purpose, the important property of the address is that it's distinctively a GNU one. There are other Michael Bushnells in the world, but not two with that trait. > >mkoch = mkoch > Michael Koch? konque...@gmx.de/ > > > >moore = moore > Catherine, Tim? Since you're not sure of these I'll await confirmation or alternate suggestions. > Might help if we had a reference to one or more changes from the folks. > Just knowing timeframes for example would likely resolve . Right, I'll get on that as soon as I've installed more RAM in the Beast (ordered from Newegg yesterday). The 45GB working-set size triggered an OOM in reposurgeon - something I never thought I'd see. Even the entire NetBSD repo is less than half that size! I'm a little worried about a couple of commits getting misattributed because usernames got retired and reused. I now have ralph = Ralph Loader but my Google searches suggest that 'ralph' may previously have been used by a Ralph Doncaster. Similarly, I now have kho = Kim Ho based on the password file, but there may have been previous use of the name by a Sam Kho. Not sure which of them to attribute commits to; possibly they both made some. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > After comparing with the Subversion hists, passswd file, the are 30 > unknowns left. Can anyone identify any of these? > > aluchko = aluchko Aaron Luchko > bo = bo Bo Thorsen > ira = ira Ira Ruben > irar = irar Ira Rosen > kristerw = kristerw Krister Walfridsson > matthewg = matthewg Matthew Sachs > membar = membar Mohan Embar > mkoch = mkoch Michael Koch > srladd = srladd Scott Robert Ladd > steven = steven Steven Bosscher > woepaul = woepaul Paul Woegerer All of the above are emails from the time of some commits, not necessarily current. -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 02:09 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Jeff Law : On 08/26/2015 01:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: mib = mib Michael Bushnell. Aagain, not active in forever. m...@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu probably doesn't work anymore. miles = miles Miles Bader. mi...@gnu.ai.mit.edu mycroft = mycroft Charles Hannum. Hasn't been active in forever. mycr...@gnu.ai.mit.edu probably doesn't work anymore. Right, I recognize these people as long-time hard-core GNU contributors. It would be a bit surprising if they *weren't* in the history anywhere. Adding them now... That's why those 3 popped out at me. moore = moore Catherine, Tim? The more I think about it, it's more likely Tim. Catherine typically used clm@ and Tim used moore@. Certainly if it was a change to the PA port, then it was Tim. Jeff
Re: 33 unknowns left
Ian Lance Taylor : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Jeff Law wrote: > > On 08/26/2015 01:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > >>> > >>> mib = mib > > > > Michael Bushnell. Aagain, not active in forever. m...@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu > > probably doesn't work anymore. > > This person (not quite sure how to say this) changed his name to > Thomas Bushnell. His public e-mail address seems to be t...@becket.net. > > Ian Yes, I know how and why that happened. I've actually had to deal with the resulting confusion in other repositories. :-) The way I cope is by respecting the person's apparent wish to have those considered two separate identities demarcated by a complete reorientation of his life, and leaving "Michael" in place for attributions from before he took vows. This policy has the advantage that I don't have to intrusively edit the record. If Michael/Thomas ever becomes aware of the issue and wants me to edit to Thomas, I assume he'll tell me. Under the circumstances I rather doubt it's high on his list of concerns. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I'm a little worried about a couple of commits getting misattributed > because usernames got retired and reused. I now have > > ralph = Ralph Loader > > but my Google searches suggest that 'ralph' may previously have been > used by a Ralph Doncaster. Similarly, I now have r72576, when he added himself to MAINTAINERS, says Ralph Loader . The gcc-cvs mailboxes I'm grepping (starting when I first subscribed to gcc-cvs by email in August 2000) show only a few commits from him in the period October to December 2003, do you see commits in older parts of the history? > kho = Kim Ho All the commits I see (again, in those gcc-cvs mailboxes) from that username are from 2004, Kim Ho . Although a few accounts may have been deleted on sourceware, and conceivably account names could have been reused after such deletion, it's the parts of the history that come from the gcc2 repository (trunk until the start of EGCS, premerge-fsf-branch after that) where there's a greater risk of conflicts (as in, the two systems had completely separate passwd files). -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com
Re: 33 unknowns left
Joseph Myers : > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > After comparing with the Subversion hists, passswd file, the are 30 > > unknowns left. Can anyone identify any of these? > > > > aluchko = aluchko > > Aaron Luchko Aha. I thought that was him. I found his SourceForge account. > > bo = bo > > Bo Thorsen Oh, thank you. I had *no* idea how I was going to pin down that one. It's a unpromising string for web searches. > > ira = ira > > Ira Ruben > > > irar = irar > > Ira Rosen I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't figure out which was which. Thanks. >[others omitted] > > All of the above are emails from the time of some commits, not necessarily > current. That's OK. Addresses will go stale. The important thing is to preserve as good odds as possible that fuure data mining will be able to recognize when different name/address pairs with the same name-among-humans refer to the same person. The remaining list is pretty short: bson = bson cks = cks click = click dennisg = dennisg erik = erik fp = fp friedman = friedman fx = fx hassey = hassey jrv = jrv jtw = jtw karl = karl moore = moore rolfh = rolfh root = root thomas = thomas wood = wood -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
Joseph Myers : > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > I'm a little worried about a couple of commits getting misattributed > > because usernames got retired and reused. I now have > > > > ralph = Ralph Loader > > > > but my Google searches suggest that 'ralph' may previously have been > > used by a Ralph Doncaster. Similarly, I now have > > r72576, when he added himself to MAINTAINERS, says Ralph Loader > . The gcc-cvs mailboxes I'm grepping (starting when I > first subscribed to gcc-cvs by email in August 2000) show only a few > commits from him in the period October to December 2003, do you see > commits in older parts of the history? Sorry, I can't easily check yet. I need to upgrade my hardware first. :-) > > kho = Kim Ho > > All the commits I see (again, in those gcc-cvs mailboxes) from that > username are from 2004, Kim Ho . Yeah, I guess that settles it. > Although a few accounts may have been deleted on sourceware, and > conceivably account names could have been reused after such deletion, it's > the parts of the history that come from the gcc2 repository (trunk until > the start of EGCS, premerge-fsf-branch after that) where there's a greater > risk of conflicts (as in, the two systems had completely separate passwd > files). Noted. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 02:35 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Joseph Myers : On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: After comparing with the Subversion hists, passswd file, the are 30 unknowns left. Can anyone identify any of these? aluchko = aluchko Aaron Luchko Aha. I thought that was him. I found his SourceForge account. bo = bo Bo Thorsen Oh, thank you. I had *no* idea how I was going to pin down that one. It's a unpromising string for web searches. ira = ira Ira Ruben irar = irar Ira Rosen I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't figure out which was which. Thanks. [others omitted] All of the above are emails from the time of some commits, not necessarily current. That's OK. Addresses will go stale. The important thing is to preserve as good odds as possible that fuure data mining will be able to recognize when different name/address pairs with the same name-among-humans refer to the same person. The remaining list is pretty short: bson = bson fx = fx fx is active... Francois-Xavier Coudert fxcoud...@gcc.gnu.org Not sure how I missed that the first time around.
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > aluchko = aluchko Aaron Luchko (was ). > bo = bo Bo Thorsen (was ). > bson = bson Jan Brittenson (was ). > cks = cks Chris Smight (was ). > click = click You've got me on that one. Any hints? > dennisg = dennisg Dennis Glatting. I don't have an e-mail address. > erik = erik Pretty sure this is Erik Naggum. He is dead now. Was . > fp = fp Frederic Pierresteguy (was ). > friedman = friedman Noah Friedman (was ). > fx = fx Dave Love (was ). > hassey = hassey John Hassey (was ). > ira = ira Ira Ruben (was ). > irar = irar Ira Rosen (was ). > jrv = jrv James Van Artsdalen (was ). > jtw = jtw John Wroclawski (was ). > karl = karl Karl Berry (was k...@cs.umb.edu). > kristerw = kristerw Krister Walfridsson (was ). > matthewg = matthewg Matthew Sachs (was ). > membar = membar Mohan Embar (was ) > mib = mib Thomas Bushnell > miles = miles Miles Bader (was ). > mkoch = mkoch Michael Koch (was ) > moore = moore Timothy Moore (was ). (Catherine Moore is clm). > mycroft = mycroft Charles Hannum (was ). > rolfh = rolfh I think this is Arne H. Juul (was ). > srladd = srladd Scott Robert Ladd (was ) > steven = steven Steven Bosscher (was ) > thomas = thomas This is Thomas Bushnell again, same as mib, above. > woepaul = woepaul Paul Woegerer (was ). > wood = wood Tom Wood (was ). I see that several other people chimed in while I was researching this. I hope there aren't too many disagreements. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > aluchko = aluchko Aaron Luchko (was ). > bo = bo Bo Thorsen (was ). > bson = bson Jan Brittenson (was ). > cks = cks Chris Smight (was ). > click = click You've got me on that one. Any hints? > dennisg = dennisg Dennis Glatting. I don't have an e-mail address. > erik = erik Pretty sure this is Erik Naggum. He is dead now. Was . > fp = fp Frederic Pierresteguy (was ). > friedman = friedman Noah Friedman (was ). > fx = fx Dave Love (was ). > hassey = hassey John Hassey (was ). > ira = ira Ira Ruben (was ). > irar = irar Ira Rosen (was ). > jrv = jrv James Van Artsdalen (was ). > jtw = jtw John Wroclawski (was ). > karl = karl Karl Berry (was k...@cs.umb.edu). > kristerw = kristerw Krister Walfridsson (was ). > matthewg = matthewg Matthew Sachs (was ). > membar = membar Mohan Embar (was ) > mib = mib Thomas Bushnell > miles = miles Miles Bader (was ). > mkoch = mkoch Michael Koch (was ) > moore = moore Timothy Moore (was ). (Catherine Moore is clm). > mycroft = mycroft Charles Hannum (was ). > rolfh = rolfh I think this is Arne H. Juul (was ). > srladd = srladd Scott Robert Ladd (was ) > steven = steven Steven Bosscher (was ) > thomas = thomas This is Thomas Bushnell again, same as mib, above. > woepaul = woepaul Paul Woegerer (was ). > wood = wood Tom Wood (was ). I see that several other people chimed in while I was researching this. I hope there aren't too many disagreements. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
Jeff Law : > moore = moore > >>Catherine, Tim? > The more I think about it, it's more likely Tim. Catherine typically used > clm@ and Tim used moore@. > > > Certainly if it was a change to the PA port, then it was Tim. What was his address? About Catherine Moore: One of the things that is quite noticeable about this list is the number of apparently female contributors, which while regrettably small in absolute terms is still rather more than I'm used to seeing in a sample this size. This makes me curious. Was any special effort made to attract female hackers to the project? Is there a prevailing theory about why they showed up in comparatively large numbers? It would be interesting to know what, if any specific thing, was done right here... -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Law wrote: >> fx = fx > > fx is active... Francois-Xavier Coudert fxcoud...@gcc.gnu.org Not sure how > I missed that the first time around. No, this is a different person (it's Dave Love). Francois-Xavier has always gone by fxcoudert. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 02:44 PM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: friedman = friedman Noah Friedman (was ). Yea. fx = fx Dave Love (was ). Hmm, not Francois-Xavier Coudert? I guess if it's an old commit, then Dave Love is more likely. Given most of the names we're pulling out are from old contributors, Dave is probably the most likely. hassey = hassey John Hassey (was ). Yes. jrv = jrv James Van Artsdalen (was ). Yes. karl = karl Karl Berry (was k...@cs.umb.edu). Yes. moore = moore Timothy Moore (was ). (Catherine Moore is clm). I think the consensus is Tim. He'll also be moore@*.cs.utah.edu wood = wood Tom Wood (was ). Yes. jeff
Re: 33 unknowns left
Jeff Law : > >fx = fx > fx is active... Francois-Xavier Coudert fxcoud...@gcc.gnu.org Not sure how > I missed that the first time around. There are fxcoudert commits as well and I traced them to him. I did wonder if fx might ber the same person. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 02:50 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Jeff Law : moore = moore Catherine, Tim? The more I think about it, it's more likely Tim. Catherine typically used clm@ and Tim used moore@. Certainly if it was a change to the PA port, then it was Tim. What was his address? Most were @cs.utah.edu, but he left Utah eons ago. He was @redhat.com for a while, not sure after that. About Catherine Moore: One of the things that is quite noticeable about this list is the number of apparently female contributors, which while regrettably small in absolute terms is still rather more than I'm used to seeing in a sample this size. This makes me curious. Was any special effort made to attract female hackers to the project? Is there a prevailing theory about why they showed up in comparatively large numbers? It would be interesting to know what, if any specific thing, was done right here... I can't recall any special effort. Just always trying to encourage anyone to contribute in whatever way they could. jeff
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > bson = bson Jan Brittenson > cks = cks Chris Smith > click = click Nick Clifton > dennisg = dennisg Likely the same person as dglattin, Dennis Glatting , but no signs of ChangeLog entries for the dennisg commits. > erik = erik Erik Naggum > fp = fp Frederic Pierresteguy > friedman = friedman Noah Friedman > fx = fx Dave Love > hassey = hassey John Hassey > jrv = jrv James Van Artsdalen > jtw = jtw Not clear to me from ChangeLogs / ,v files. > karl = karl Presumably Karl Berry (entirely changes to texinfo.tex, no ChangeLog entries). > moore = moore Tim Moore > rolfh = rolfh Arne H. Juul > thomas = thomas Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG > wood = wood Tom Wood This time (except for fx, which I found through egcs-cvs archives from 1998), I grepped the ,v files of the gcc2 repository to find commits and cross-referenced with ChangeLogs in GCC 2.8.1 to find log entries at the right time. Email addresses are even less likely to be current. -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com
Re: 33 unknowns left
Ian Lance Taylor : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Law wrote: > > >> fx = fx > > > > fx is active... Francois-Xavier Coudert fxcoud...@gcc.gnu.org Not sure how > > I missed that the first time around. > > No, this is a different person (it's Dave Love). Francois-Xavier has > always gone by fxcoudert. Address? -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > root = root Hmmm. root. This was probably Danny Berlin logged into the root account on sourceware. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Ian Lance Taylor : >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Law wrote: >> >> >> fx = fx >> > >> > fx is active... Francois-Xavier Coudert fxcoud...@gcc.gnu.org Not sure how >> > I missed that the first time around. >> >> No, this is a different person (it's Dave Love). Francois-Xavier has >> always gone by fxcoudert. > > Address? It's in the long list I sent. It was . Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
On 08/26/2015 02:54 PM, Joseph Myers wrote: click = click Nick Clifton Wow, never knew 'click' would be Nick. ni...@redhat.com is probably better than ni...@cygnus.com
Re: 33 unknowns left
Ian Lance Taylor : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > root = root > > Hmmm. root. This was probably Danny Berlin logged into the root > account on sourceware. > > Ian OK. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > root = root > > Hmmm. root. This was probably Danny Berlin logged into the root > account on sourceware. The root commits I see from October 2005 (implementing parts of the CVS-to-SVN transition) are pretty definitely him, since he was in charge of that transition. Two of the three root commits then are to the /hooks directory. That directory should be omitted from the conversion (it doesn't make sense to convert SVN hooks to git, any more than we converted the CVSROOT files to SVN - Jason will be working on the git hooks needed). At some point we need to work out the mapping for which subdirectories of /branches are actual branches and which contain branches a level lower down. In general I expect that subdirectories containing a ChangeLog file are branches and those that don't are not branches, but the list of those that are not branches should be reviewed manually (premerge-fsf-branch at least *is* a branch not a container, despite only containing a directory). In general, we should have a public git repository somewhere with all the configuration for the conversion, such as the author map and the configuration for branches. -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com
Re: 33 unknowns left
Ian Lance Taylor : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > > aluchko = aluchko > > Aaron Luchko (was ). Agrees with other submissions and my own research. > > bo = bo > > Bo Thorsen (was ). I have for him, but "sonofthor" is *way* cooler (and, importantly, quite distinctive). > > bson = bson > > Jan Brittenson (was ). Agreed. > > cks = cks > > Chris Smight (was ). Nobody else IDed him. Added. > > click = click > > You've got me on that one. Any hints? Not a clue... > > dennisg = dennisg > > Dennis Glatting. I don't have an e-mail address. I have a different entry that's probably him: dglattin = Dennis Glatting Can anyone else confirm these IDs refer to the same person? > > erik = erik > > Pretty sure this is Erik Naggum. He is dead now. Was . Yeah, I remember Erik; I'll believe that. Added. > > fp = fp > > Frederic Pierresteguy (was ). Nobody else IDed him. Added. > > friedman = friedman > > Noah Friedman (was ). Yes, Noah would have been my guess if I had to guess. Added. > > fx = fx > > Dave Love (was ). Argument already covered. I'm going with this one unless contrary evidence is presented. > > hassey = hassey > > John Hassey (was ). Nobody else IDed him. Added. > > ira = ira > > Ira Ruben (was ). > > > irar = irar > > Ira Rosen (was ). Agrees with other sources. > > jrv = jrv > > James Van Artsdalen (was ). > > > jtw = jtw > > John Wroclawski (was ). > > > karl = karl > > Karl Berry (was k...@cs.umb.edu). Nobody else IDed these guys; added. > > kristerw = kristerw > > Krister Walfridsson (was ). > > > matthewg = matthewg > > Matthew Sachs (was ). > > > membar = membar > > Mohan Embar (was ) Other sources agree. > > mib = mib > > Thomas Bushnell I explained my policy about the Bushnell perplex in previous mail. I'll map this one to t...@becket.net. > > miles = miles > > Miles Bader (was ). > > > mkoch = mkoch > > Michael Koch (was ) Other sources agree. > > > moore = moore > > Timothy Moore (was ). OK, added. > (Catherine Moore is clm). > > > mycroft = mycroft > > Charles Hannum (was ). Agrees with other sources. > > rolfh = rolfh > > I think this is Arne H. Juul (was ). How did rolfh turn into arne or vice-versa? I'd like to have confirmation on this one. > > srladd = srladd > > Scott Robert Ladd (was ) > > > steven = steven > > Steven Bosscher (was ) Agrees with other sources. > > thomas = thomas > > This is Thomas Bushnell again, same as mib, above. Right. > > woepaul = woepaul > > Paul Woegerer (was ). Agrees with other sources. > > wood = wood > > Tom Wood (was ). Nobody else IDed this guy; added. > I see that several other people chimed in while I was researching > this. I hope there aren't too many disagreements. > > Ian No, I think this is resolving nicely. I'll follow up with some remnant unknowns. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Re: 33 unknowns left
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > >> > rolfh = rolfh >> >> I think this is Arne H. Juul (was ). > > How did rolfh turn into arne or vice-versa? I'd like to have confirmation > on this one. I don't know where the user name comes from, but this one is from multiple ChangeLog entries that matches commits. I see that Joseph got the same result. Ian
Re: 33 unknowns left
Joseph Myers : > > cks = cks > > Chris Smith OK, we have a disagreement. Ian thinks this was cks = Chris Smight > > click = click > > Nick Clifton Oh good, nobody else has IDed him. > > dennisg = dennisg > > Likely the same person as dglattin, Dennis Glatting , > but no signs of ChangeLog entries for the dennisg commits. That's Ian's theory as well. With the independent confirmation I'll go with it. > > erik = erik > > Erik Naggum > > > fp = fp > > Frederic Pierresteguy > > > friedman = friedman > > Noah Friedman > > > fx = fx > > Dave Love > > > hassey = hassey > > John Hassey > > > jrv = jrv > > James Van Artsdalen All in agreement with other sources. > > jtw = jtw > > Not clear to me from ChangeLogs / ,v files. I think Ian and/or Jeff got this one. > > karl = karl > > Presumably Karl Berry (entirely changes to texinfo.tex, no ChangeLog > entries). With that pattern of mods I would be astonished if it were anyone else. > > moore = moore > > Tim Moore Agrees with other sources. > > rolfh = rolfh > > Arne H. Juul I still want to know how arne turned into rolf. But I'll take this as confirmation. > > thomas = thomas > > Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG > > > wood = wood > > Tom Wood Agrees with other sources. > This time (except for fx, which I found through egcs-cvs archives from > 1998), I grepped the ,v files of the gcc2 repository to find commits and > cross-referenced with ChangeLogs in GCC 2.8.1 to find log entries at the > right time. Email addresses are even less likely to be current. As previously explained, I don't worry so much about stale as I do about whether they'll match with the same person's old commits in other repositories. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
GCC and gender (was Re: 33 unknowns left)
On 08/26/2015 02:50 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: About Catherine Moore: One of the things that is quite noticeable about this list is the number of apparently female contributors, which while regrettably small in absolute terms is still rather more than I'm used to seeing in a sample this size. When I see a photo like this: https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GCCGathering2011 it appears to me that women are statistically underrepresented in the GCC community, rather than the opposite. This makes me curious. Was any special effort made to attract female hackers to the project? Is there a prevailing theory about why they showed up in comparatively large numbers? It would be interesting to know what, if any specific thing, was done right here... Speaking as a GCC hacker with two X chromosomes myself, I think I would be offended if I thought I were being recruited because of my gender instead of because I'm good at what I do. -Sandra
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Joseph Myers : >> > cks = cks >> >> Chris Smith > > OK, we have a disagreement. Ian thinks this was > > cks = Chris Smight Gah, I somehow typoed the name. Sorry. Chris Smith is correct. The only address I have is c...@bach.convex.com (somebody I typoed bach as back) but probably @convex.com is better. Ian
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Sandra Loosemore : > Speaking as a GCC hacker with two X chromosomes myself, I think I would be > offended if I thought I were being recruited because of my gender instead of > because I'm good at what I do. I respect your attitude and would feel the same in your shoes. I assure you I was making no such assumption. I am quite strongly opposed to playing diversity bingo for its own sake, and have in fact caught flak from SJW types for saying so in public. Still, it is a fact that a lot of projects these days do make such a special effort. And the anthropologist in me sees something a bit unusual and wonders what the causation is. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
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Ian Lance Taylor : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Joseph Myers : > >> > cks = cks > >> > >> Chris Smith > > > > OK, we have a disagreement. Ian thinks this was > > > > cks = Chris Smight > > Gah, I somehow typoed the name. Sorry. Chris Smith is correct. The > only address I have is c...@bach.convex.com (somebody I typoed bach as > back) but probably @convex.com is better. > > Ian Done. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > dennisg = dennisg > > > > Likely the same person as dglattin, Dennis Glatting , > > but no signs of ChangeLog entries for the dennisg commits. > > That's Ian's theory as well. With the independent confirmation I'll go > with it. FWIW it seems likely to me that the ObjC files in question were first developed outside the GCC tree, on a system where his username was dennisg, and then the ,v files from that development moved into the GCC tree, at which point he both started committing from a different system where he had the dglattin username, and started writing ChangeLog entries. I didn't e.g. check dates for when ObjC was released with GCC, but such a move of ,v files from one system to another would explain the different usernames. -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com
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Joseph Myers : > Two of the three root commits then are to the /hooks directory. That > directory should be omitted from the conversion (it doesn't make sense to > convert SVN hooks to git, any more than we converted the CVSROOT files to > SVN - Jason will be working on the git hooks needed). Good, that answers a question I was going to have to ask at some point. > At some point we need to work out the mapping for which subdirectories of > /branches are actual branches and which contain branches a level lower > down. In general I expect that subdirectories containing a ChangeLog file > are branches and those that don't are not branches, but the list of those > that are not branches should be reviewed manually (premerge-fsf-branch at > least *is* a branch not a container, despite only containing a directory). > In general, we should have a public git repository somewhere with all the > configuration for the conversion, such as the author map and the > configuration for branches. Yes, it is my normal practice to set up a publicly visible repo with the conversion machinery so the project members can review it. I'll have one up within a few days. After the additional RAM arrives. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
gcc-4.9-20150826 is now available
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Re: 33 unknowns left
> wood = wood Likely Tom Wood (w...@dg-rtp.dg.com)
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On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:35 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Joseph Myers : > > > irar = irar > > > > Ira Rosen > > I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't > figure out which was which. Thanks. Actually, Ira Rosen is a "she" and not a "he". Peter
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On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:44 -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > click = click > > You've got me on that one. Any hints? Just purely looking at the name, did Cliff Click ever contribute to gcc in the past? Peter
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On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 18:55 -0500, Peter Bergner wrote: > On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:35 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Joseph Myers : > > > > irar = irar > > > > > > Ira Rosen > > > > I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't > > figure out which was which. Thanks. > > Actually, Ira Rosen is a "she" and not a "he". Ah, I see Nick Clifton has been fingered. Nevermind. Peter
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Peter Bergner : > On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:35 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Joseph Myers : > > > > irar = irar > > > > > > Ira Rosen > > > > I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't > > figure out which was which. Thanks. > > Actually, Ira Rosen is a "she" and not a "he". > > Peter > Really? Interesting. I have bever encountered "Ira" as a female name before. What language does this? -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
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> On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Peter Bergner : >>> On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:35 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >>> Joseph Myers : > irar = irar Ira Rosen >>> >>> I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't >>> figure out which was which. Thanks. >> >> Actually, Ira Rosen is a "she" and not a "he". >> >> Peter > > Really? Interesting. I have bever encountered "Ira" as a female name before. > What language does this? Most likely Hebrew. Ira is located in Israel. Thanks, Andrew > -- >http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
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On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 20:12 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Peter Bergner : > > On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 16:35 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > Joseph Myers : > > > > > irar = irar > > > > > > > > Ira Rosen > > > > > > I pretty much knew these two guys went with these two names, but couldn't > > > figure out which was which. Thanks. > > > > Actually, Ira Rosen is a "she" and not a "he". > > > > Peter > > > > Really? Interesting. I have bever encountered "Ira" as a female name before. > What language does this? She works for IBM's Haifa research lab. https://il.linkedin.com/pub/ira-rosen/34/b73/433 Peter
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pins...@gmail.com : > > Really? Interesting. I have bever encountered "Ira" as a female name > > before. > > What language does this? > > Most likely Hebrew. Ira is located in Israel. OK, that's educational. I associate the name with American Jews, but in English it is AFAIK only given to males. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
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On 08/26/2015 06:02 PM, Peter Bergner wrote: On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:44 -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: click = click You've got me on that one. Any hints? Just purely looking at the name, did Cliff Click ever contribute to gcc in the past? I don't think so. It was my first thought when I say click@. jeff
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On August 26, 2015 8:28:40 PM CDT, Jeff Law wrote: >On 08/26/2015 06:02 PM, Peter Bergner wrote: >> On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:44 -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond >wrote: click = click >>> >>> You've got me on that one. Any hints? >> >> Just purely looking at the name, did Cliff Click ever >> contribute to gcc in the past? >I don't think so. It was my first thought when I say click@. Didn't Amazon get a patent on the one click@? Seriously the email review has been a walk down memory lane. :) >jeff --joel
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On 08/26/2015 07:37 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote: On August 26, 2015 8:28:40 PM CDT, Jeff Law wrote: On 08/26/2015 06:02 PM, Peter Bergner wrote: On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:44 -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: click = click You've got me on that one. Any hints? Just purely looking at the name, did Cliff Click ever contribute to gcc in the past? I don't think so. It was my first thought when I saw click@. Didn't Amazon get a patent on the one click@? I recall something like that. Seriously the email review has been a walk down memory lane. :) Very much so. Many of those folks pre-date my involvement in GCC. Jeff
Re: 33 unknowns left
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > > >> On August 26, 2015 8:28:40 PM CDT, Jeff Law wrote: >>> On 08/26/2015 06:02 PM, Peter Bergner wrote: On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:44 -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Eric S. Raymond >> wrote: > click = click You've got me on that one. Any hints? >>> >>> Just purely looking at the name, did Cliff Click ever >>> contribute to gcc in the past? >> I don't think so. It was my first thought when I say click@. > > Didn't Amazon get a patent on the one click@? The courts in Germany just rejected it. > > Seriously the email review has been a walk down memory lane. :) > >> jeff > > --joel
