GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Jakub Jelinek
Hi!

So, what versioning scheme have we actually agreed on, before I change it in
wwwdocs?  Is that
5.0.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.0.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 5.1.0 in ~ April 2016,
or
5.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 6.0 in ~ April 2016?
The only thing I understood was that we don't want 4.10, but for the rest
various people expressed different preferences and then it was presented as
agreement on 5.0, which applies to both of the above.

It is not a big deal either way of course.

Jakub


Re: GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Richard Biener
On July 20, 2014 5:55:06 PM GMT+01:00, Jakub Jelinek  wrote:
>Hi!
>
>So, what versioning scheme have we actually agreed on, before I change
>it in
>wwwdocs?  Is that
>5.0.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.0.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 5.1.0 in ~ April
>2016,
>or
>5.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 6.0 in ~ April 2016?
>The only thing I understood was that we don't want 4.10, but for the
>rest
>various people expressed different preferences and then it was
>presented as
>agreement on 5.0, which applies to both of the above.
>
>It is not a big deal either way of course.

I understood we agreed on 5.0 and further 5.1, 5.2 releases from the branch and 
6.0 a year later. With unspecified uses for the patch level number (so leave it 
at zero).

Richard.

>   Jakub




Re: GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 05:59:08PM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
> >So, what versioning scheme have we actually agreed on, before I change
> >it in
> >wwwdocs?  Is that
> >5.0.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.0.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 5.1.0 in ~ April
> >2016,
> >or
> >5.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 6.0 in ~ April 2016?
> >The only thing I understood was that we don't want 4.10, but for the
> >rest
> >various people expressed different preferences and then it was
> >presented as
> >agreement on 5.0, which applies to both of the above.
> >
> >It is not a big deal either way of course.
> 
> I understood we agreed on 5.0 and further 5.1, 5.2 releases from the
> branch and 6.0 a year later.  With unspecified uses for the patch level
> number (so leave it at zero).

Ian/Jason, is that your understanding too?  In any case, we should mention
it on gcc.gnu.org/index.html, in develop.html and perhaps a few other spots.

Jakub


Re: GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Paulo Matos

On 20/07/14 17:59, Richard Biener wrote:

On July 20, 2014 5:55:06 PM GMT+01:00, Jakub Jelinek  wrote:

Hi!

So, what versioning scheme have we actually agreed on, before I change
it in
wwwdocs?  Is that
5.0.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.0.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 5.1.0 in ~ April
2016,
or
5.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 6.0 in ~ April 2016?
The only thing I understood was that we don't want 4.10, but for the
rest
various people expressed different preferences and then it was
presented as
agreement on 5.0, which applies to both of the above.

It is not a big deal either way of course.


I understood we agreed on 5.0 and further 5.1, 5.2 releases from the branch and 
6.0 a year later. With unspecified uses for the patch level number (so leave it 
at zero).



That's what I understood as well. Someone mentioned to leave the patch 
level number to the distros to use which sounded like a good idea.


Paulo Matos


Richard.


Jakub









Re: GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Geert Bosch

On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Jakub Jelinek  wrote:

> So, what versioning scheme have we actually agreed on, before I change it in
> wwwdocs?  Is that
> 5.0.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.0.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 5.1.0 in ~ April 2016,
> or
> 5.0 in ~ April 2015, 5.1 in ~ June-July 2015 and 6.0 in ~ April 2016?
> The only thing I understood was that we don't want 4.10, but for the rest
> various people expressed different preferences and then it was presented as
> agreement on 5.0, which applies to both of the above.

Can we use the switch to 5.0, a supposedly stable C++11 ABI etc,
also as an excuse to finally configure for --with-sse2 by default 
for 32-bit x86? Maybe then we can finally retire PR 323 and its 
dozens of duplicates...

  -Geert


Re: GCC version bikeshedding

2014-07-20 Thread Andi Kleen
Paulo Matos  writes:
>
> That's what I understood as well. Someone mentioned to leave the patch
> level number to the distros to use which sounded like a good idea.

Sounds like a bad idea, as then there would be non unique gcc versions.
redhat gcc 5.0.2 potentially being completely different from suse gcc
5.0.2

-Andi



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