Re: [Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #826: Redirect links to gambasdoc.org/lang to gambaswiki/wiki/lang
Am 26.10.2015 um 12:32 schrieb Fabien Bodard: > If i remember well the server was down and we are not proprietary of > the domain name. That's the reason for this change. > > but as often these choices are guided by the current difficulties. For > years, the site was hosted by gambasdoc.org a contributor, but he > could not make us continue this service. I thank him again for all > these years of support. He had to find another host and it is the > company 'Benoit' who offered us storage space. However we have not > been able to keep the dns. Ok. So this was by accident, not by design. > So much for the story ... what I remember me. Thanks. Do you know Robert Kudla? > Domain Name:GAMBASDOC.ORG > Domain ID: D105868913-LROR > Creation Date: 2005-03-11T17:54:15Z > Updated Date: 2015-03-12T01:40:38Z > Registry Expiry Date: 2016-03-11T17:54:15Z > Sponsoring Registrar:New Dream Network, LLC dba DreamHost Web Hosting > (R173-LROR) > Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 431 > WHOIS Server: > Referral URL: > Domain Status: ok -- http://www.icann.org/epp#ok > Registrant ID:ndn-1635912 > Registrant Name:Robert Kudla > Registrant Organization:Robert Kudla > Registrant Street: 5 Southside Dr. #206 > Registrant City:Clifton Park > Registrant State/Province:NY > Registrant Postal Code:12065 > Registrant Country:US > Registrant Phone:+1.5184068469 > Registrant Phone Ext: > Registrant Fax: > Registrant Fax Ext: > Registrant Email:hostmas...@kudla.org > Admin ID:ndn-1635912 > Admin Name:Robert Kudla > Admin Organization:Robert Kudla The domain is unused. Why not ask him if he would give the domain back to the community? Or did you? Alles Gute Christof Thalhofer -- Dies ist keine Signatur signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Am 26.10.2015 15:49, schrieb Benoît Minisini: > Hi, > > I have uploaded a beta version of a new website design at: > > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/test.html > > You still have to login both on the wiki and the bugtracker, but the > accounts are the same. > > The all contents is now stored in the wiki, so updates and translations > will be easier. > > Only the top header needs to be translated through the "MakeWebSite" > project located in '/trunk/app/others'. And the arabic version layout > needs polishing too. > > I'm waiting for your comments and suggestions now... :-) > Great new look! I love it! Just some spontaneous thoughts I had: Do you insist on making this comparison with VB? What do you think about "an IDE as easy as VB and a language as powerful as Java" or something like that? "english teacher" - the "E" should be a capital. Regards Rolf -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Am 26.10.2015 um 15:49 schrieb Benoît Minisini: > I have uploaded a beta version of a new website design at: > > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/test.html > > You still have to login both on the wiki and the bugtracker, but the > accounts are the same. > > The all contents is now stored in the wiki, so updates and translations > will be easier. And eventually disappear from sourceforge. > Only the top header needs to be translated through the "MakeWebSite" > project located in '/trunk/app/others'. And the arabic version layout > needs polishing too. > > I'm waiting for your comments and suggestions now... :-) Very cool. :-) The Language selector has some caveats. When I first choose language "de", I am nailed to the english page, but after I choose "it" and then "de", I geht the german page, but when I then choose "en" I am nailed at the german page. Funny :) Alles Gute Christof Thalhofer -- Dies ist keine Signatur signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
On 10/27/2015 06:37 AM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote: > Am 26.10.2015 15:49, schrieb Benoît Minisini: >> Hi, >> >> I have uploaded a beta version of a new website design at: >> >> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/test.html >> >> You still have to login both on the wiki and the bugtracker, but the >> accounts are the same. >> >> The all contents is now stored in the wiki, so updates and translations >> will be easier. >> >> Only the top header needs to be translated through the "MakeWebSite" >> project located in '/trunk/app/others'. And the arabic version layout >> needs polishing too. >> >> I'm waiting for your comments and suggestions now... :-) >> > Great new look! I love it! > > Just some spontaneous thoughts I had: > > Do you insist on making this comparison with VB? What do you think about > "an IDE as easy as VB and a language as powerful as Java" or something > like that? > > "english teacher" - the "E" should be a capital. It does look awesome. My two cents on the VB thing... Based on my conversations with other programmers and what I've seen/read elsewhere there are a lot of programmers who think any BASIC dialect is shit, not a real programming language, and generally something to be laughed at and avoided. There are also programmers who liked Visual Basic (or at least the "promise" of it), and are seeking a more modern alternative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic "In 2014 there are tens of thousands of developers who still prefer Visual Basic 6.0 over Visual Basic .NET. Moreover, in recent years some developers lobbied aggressively for a new version of Visual Basic 6.0." Based on the FLOSS weekly interview and conversations with a programmer friend of mine, the prejudice against BASIC is so strong they have difficulty accepting the power and elegance of Gambas. So I guess the real question here is does comparing it to Visual Basic push more people away than it brings in. I like Rolf-Werner's "an IDE as easy as VB and a language as powerful as Java". I also think it might be a good idea to create a demonstration video, upload it to YouTube and embed it in the front page. When people see with their own eyes the IDE, available components and just how quickly an application can be built it will say more than any tagline ever could. Like the allure of an infomercial they'll see themselves using it that way before they've even installed it. -- Kevin Fishburne Eight Virtues www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com phone: (770) 853-6271 -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
> I also think it might be a good idea to create a demonstration > video, upload it to YouTube and embed it in the front page. When people > see with their own eyes the IDE, available components and just how > quickly an application can be built it will say more than any tagline > ever could. Like the allure of an infomercial they'll see themselves > using it that way before they've even installed it. That's a good idea! To me, two big hindrances for Gambas to gain popularity is a lack of PR and resources to get people going. If we could have a professional video displaying the core strengths of Gambas, that could be a very good way to get more people involved. A quality video series on Gambas would also be really great. Somebody also recently talked about getting Gambas on this programming show on Twit... how's that going? -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Le 27/10/2015 11:37, Rolf-Werner Eilert a écrit : > Great new look! I love it! > > Just some spontaneous thoughts I had: > > Do you insist on making this comparison with VB? What do you think about > "an IDE as easy as VB and a language as powerful as Java" or something > like that? > > "english teacher" - the "E" should be a capital. > > Regards > Rolf > > I changed the home page sentence, following your proposal (easy now, everything is in the wiki...). I also replaced "english" by "English". Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Le 27/10/2015 15:54, Christof Thalhofer a écrit : > > Very cool. :-) > > The Language selector has some caveats. When I first choose language > "de", I am nailed to the english page, but after I choose "it" and then > "de", I geht the german page, but when I then choose "en" I am nailed at > the german page. Funny :) > > Alles Gute > > Christof Thalhofer > You mean the wiki language selection? Yes, for some reason, it is buggy now... -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Le 27/10/2015 19:05, Moviga Technologies a écrit : >> I also think it might be a good idea to create a demonstration >> video, upload it to YouTube and embed it in the front page. When people >> see with their own eyes the IDE, available components and just how >> quickly an application can be built it will say more than any tagline >> ever could. Like the allure of an infomercial they'll see themselves >> using it that way before they've even installed it. > > That's a good idea! To me, two big hindrances for Gambas to gain > popularity is a lack of PR and resources to get people going. > > If we could have a professional video displaying the core strengths of > Gambas, that could be a very good way to get more people involved. > A quality video series on Gambas would also be really great. Somebody > also recently talked about getting Gambas on this programming show on > Twit... how's that going? > It's a good idea. It's a shame that I am bad at marketing, so if someone can do such a great video, he is welcome! -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Am 27.10.2015 um 19:46 schrieb Benoît Minisini: > You mean the wiki language selection? Yes, for some reason, it is buggy > now... Yes, but I think this is a very minor problem. The website looks really good now! I like the friendlyness coming through the colors and the happy logo. The webdesign could been improved by making it responsive ... later ... Alles Gute Christof Thalhofer -- Dies ist keine Signatur signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] Dialog and relative paths
I have an executable archive that contains several text files with some metadata in them pertinent to that executable. Suffice to say they are text files with a ".def" extension. At run time the user needs to select one of these files to be loaded. Is there some way I can use the standard Dialog.OpenFile to achieve this? i.e. is there some way to make the Dialog.Path a relative path so it will show the files contained in the executable? tia bruce -- B Bruen -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:49:43 +0100 Benoît Minisini wrote: > Hi, > > I have uploaded a beta version of a new website design at: > > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/test.html > > You still have to login both on the wiki and the bugtracker, but the > accounts are the same. > > The all contents is now stored in the wiki, so updates and translations > will be easier. > > Only the top header needs to be translated through the "MakeWebSite" > project located in '/trunk/app/others'. And the arabic version layout > needs polishing too. > > I'm waiting for your comments and suggestions now... :-) > > -- > Benoît Minisini > A couple of negatives (sorry). 1. The clustrmaps image does not appear and the link is a 404. 2. and this is just a personal "I hate" Why use a menu bar that is part icon and part text? The Home and Language items are icons and the rest is text. 3. The news dates are rendering incorrectly. 4. (personal again) The Home page message intent is confusing, is it intended to be a "news" page for experienced users or a "welcome to the world of Gambas" for new visitors? regards bruce -- B Bruen -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Dialog and relative paths
Le 28/10/2015 01:21, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > I have an executable archive that contains several text files with > some metadata in them pertinent to that executable. Suffice to say > they are text files with a ".def" extension. > > At run time the user needs to select one of these files to be > loaded. > > Is there some way I can use the standard Dialog.OpenFile to achieve > this? i.e. is there some way to make the Dialog.Path a relative path > so it will show the files contained in the executable? > > tia bruce > Files inside archive are not real files anymore, so don't expect to select them with a standard file dialog. -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Le 28/10/2015 01:44, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > > A couple of negatives (sorry). > 1. The clustrmaps image does not appear and the link is a 404. I have the same problem with firefox. But there is no problem with Chromium. I think I will remove it. > 2. and this is just a personal "I hate" Why use a menu bar that is part icon > and part text? The Home and Language items are icons and the rest is text. I have no problem with that, it means that they are functions relative to the website, not relative to Gambas. And it is two less strings to translate. :-) > 3. The news dates are rendering incorrectly. What do you mean exactly? > 4. (personal again) The Home page message intent is confusing, is it intended > to be a "news" page for experienced users or a "welcome to the world of > Gambas" for new visitors? Mmm... both? It's usually the way web sites main pages are made, isn't it? A project presentation in a few lines and the last news? (for example, gimp.org). It's better if you send a drawing of what you would see, because it's difficult to explain a page design just with words. Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Dialog and relative paths
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:16:16 +0100 Benoît Minisini wrote: > Le 28/10/2015 01:21, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > > I have an executable archive that contains several text files with > > some metadata in them pertinent to that executable. Suffice to say > > they are text files with a ".def" extension. > > > > At run time the user needs to select one of these files to be > > loaded. > > > > Is there some way I can use the standard Dialog.OpenFile to achieve > > this? i.e. is there some way to make the Dialog.Path a relative path > > so it will show the files contained in the executable? > > > > tia bruce > > > > Files inside archive are not real files anymore, so don't expect to > select them with a standard file dialog. > > -- > Benoît Minisini > Mmm, so any "elegant" way to allow user to select a "file" inside the archive ? Actually, in fact is there any way to gba and get the "file" list? tia bruce -- B Bruen -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:20:57 +0100 Benoît Minisini wrote: > Le 28/10/2015 01:44, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > > > > A couple of negatives (sorry). > > 1. The clustrmaps image does not appear and the link is a 404. > > I have the same problem with firefox. But there is no problem with > Chromium. I think I will remove it. > > > 2. and this is just a personal "I hate" Why use a menu bar that is part > > icon and part text? The Home and Language items are icons and the rest is > > text. > > I have no problem with that, it means that they are functions relative > to the website, not relative to Gambas. And it is two less strings to > translate. :-) > > > 3. The news dates are rendering incorrectly. > > What do you mean exactly? See attached - firefox again? > > > 4. (personal again) The Home page message intent is confusing, is it > > intended to be a "news" page for experienced users or a "welcome to the > > world of Gambas" for new visitors? > > Mmm... both? It's usually the way web sites main pages are made, isn't > it? A project presentation in a few lines and the last news? (for > example, gimp.org). > > It's better if you send a drawing of what you would see, because it's > difficult to explain a page design just with words. > > Regards, > > -- > Benoît Minisini > > -- > ___ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- B Bruen -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Dialog and relative paths
Le 28/10/2015 04:40, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:16:16 +0100 > Benoît Minisini wrote: > >> Le 28/10/2015 01:21, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : >>> I have an executable archive that contains several text files with >>> some metadata in them pertinent to that executable. Suffice to say >>> they are text files with a ".def" extension. >>> >>> At run time the user needs to select one of these files to be >>> loaded. >>> >>> Is there some way I can use the standard Dialog.OpenFile to achieve >>> this? i.e. is there some way to make the Dialog.Path a relative path >>> so it will show the files contained in the executable? >>> >>> tia bruce >>> >> >> Files inside archive are not real files anymore, so don't expect to >> select them with a standard file dialog. >> >> -- >> Benoît Minisini >> > > Mmm, so any "elegant" way to allow user to select a "file" inside the > archive ? > Actually, in fact is there any way to gba and get the "file" list? > > tia > bruce > This is not the problem: you can use the Dir() method to browse the archive contents. But you have to write your own selection dialog. Why wanting to use a file selector dialog to select something that is not a true file? -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] New website design in beta version
Le 28/10/2015 04:45, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : > On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:20:57 +0100 > Benoît Minisini wrote: > >> Le 28/10/2015 01:44, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit : >>> >>> A couple of negatives (sorry). >>> 1. The clustrmaps image does not appear and the link is a 404. >> >> I have the same problem with firefox. But there is no problem with >> Chromium. I think I will remove it. >> >>> 2. and this is just a personal "I hate" Why use a menu bar that is part >>> icon and part text? The Home and Language items are icons and the rest is >>> text. >> >> I have no problem with that, it means that they are functions relative >> to the website, not relative to Gambas. And it is two less strings to >> translate. :-) >> >>> 3. The news dates are rendering incorrectly. >> >> What do you mean exactly? > See attached - firefox again? > You must refresh the browser to force the style sheet reloading, or void your browser cache. -- Benoît Minisini -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #827: Some links has been broken or outdated or changed.
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #827: Some links has been broken or outdated or changed.
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #827: Some links has been broken or outdated or changed.
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #827: Some links has been broken or outdated or changed.
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #827: Some links has been broken or outdated or changed.
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.827&from=L21haW4- Zainudin AHMAD reported a new bug. Summary --- Some links has been broken or outdated or changed. Type : Bug Priority : Low Gambas version : Unknown Product : Wiki Description --- when I try some links in gambas website I get this : http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/whatisgambas?nh (attach pic-1) http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/intro?nh (attach pic-2) documentation > Books (attach pic-3) documentation > License (attach pic-4) System information -- [System] Gambas=3.8.90 r7431 OperatingSystem=Linux Kernel=3.2.0-88-generic Architecture=x86 Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS Desktop=LXDE Theme=Gtk Language=en_US.UTF-8 Memory=494M [Libraries] Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2 Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0 DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8 GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0 GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.7.0 GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10 GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2 OpenGL=libGL.so.96.43.23 Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0 QT4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1 QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.0.2 SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3 [Environment] DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-BKf6Z67CLC,guid=5314cdd357fcc56246fcf4c50027 DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/Lubuntu.default.path DESKTOP_SESSION=Lubuntu DISPLAY=:0 GB_GUI=gb.qt4 GDMSESSION=Lubuntu GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-53fWbj GNOME_KEYRING_PID=1574 HOME= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LOGNAME= MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/Lubuntu.mandatory.path PATH=/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games PWD= SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk SHELL=/bin/bash SSH_AGENT_PID=1565 SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-53fWbj/ssh TZ=:/etc/localtime USER= XAUTHORITY=/.Xauthority XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/lubuntu/:/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu:/etc/xdg XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/.config XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=LXDE XDG_DATA_DIRS=/etc/xdg/lubuntu:/usr/share/Lubuntu:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg XDG_MENU_PREFIX=lxde- XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0 XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=2d9710af0959f6893eb828f10008-1445663785.797739-491310291 XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0 _LXSESSION_PID=1535 -- ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
