Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Jorge Carrión
That is a fine option, Benoit!
I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries, copying
and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a template
with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
Keep doing the goob work...

Regards

2015-09-18 2:53 GMT+02:00 Benoît Minisini :

> Hi,
>
> Since revision #732Z, project creation is now based on project templates.
>
> Project templates are just normal projects that are stored:
>
> - In '/usr/share/gambas3/template' : they are the default templates
> provided with the Gambas sources. (Don't forget to issue a ./reconf &&
> ./configure -C if you compile from /trunk).
>
> - In '~/.local/share/gambas3/template' : they are templates defined by
> the user. To define a custom template, just save a project there.
>
> A bookmark has been added in the 'open project' dialog and in the 'save
> project as' dialog that points at the user template directory.
>
> The title and the description of a template project are used for
> describing the template in the project creation dialog.
>
> These title and description can be translated inside the project
> template, and it will be taken into account.
>
> Of course, when creating a project, the template title and description
> are replaced by those specificed in the project creation dialog.
>
> At the moment, I made only two templates. I will make other templates,
> to mimic the old project creation dialog behaviour.
>
> You are welcome to send templates to be integrated by default with
> Gambas! A template is usually a void project, but we can imagine
> providing an application skeleton.
>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 18/09/2015 09:45, Jorge Carrión a écrit :
> That is a fine option, Benoit!
> I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries, copying
> and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a template
> with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
> Keep doing the goob work...
>
> Regards
>

So am I. I don't know why nobody asked for that. Or maybe I missed it.

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 18/09/2015 07:01, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
> And reduce the eye lines... It's too heavy and that's why I don't like the
> first one.

I did all that so that it is not scaring anymore.

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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #739: Entering tags looses focus when looking up suggestions

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
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Comment #2 by Moviga TECHNOLOGIES:

Now it is good!



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #741: Instruction on Wiki for 'How to package' inconsistent for gambas3-ide

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.741&from=L21haW4-

Benoît MINISINI changed the state of the bug to: Accepted.




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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #739: Entering tags looses focus when looking up suggestions

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
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Benoît MINISINI changed the state of the bug to: Fixed.




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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #741: Instruction on Wiki for 'How to package' inconsistent for gambas3-ide

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.741&from=L21haW4-

Comment #4 by Benoît MINISINI:

Yes, you're right. That table is automatically generated, so I have to fix that 
automatic generation
so that it takes into account things already put inside gambas3-runtime package.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #741: Instruction on Wiki for 'How to package' inconsistent for gambas3-ide

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.741&from=L21haW4-

Benoît MINISINI changed the state of the bug to: Fixed.




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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #741: Instruction on Wiki for 'How to package' inconsistent for gambas3-ide

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.741&from=L21haW4-

Comment #5 by Benoît MINISINI:

It should be ok now. The table is now entirely generated, and so should always 
be synchronized.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #738: Farms shows Login and Register when logged in

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
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Benoît MINISINI changed the state of the bug to: Accepted.




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[Gambas-user] Packaging HowTo has been updated

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Hi,

The packaging howto has been fixed again. The table of package 
dependencies for Gambas >= 3.8 is now entirely generated, and so should 
be always synchronized with the current source state now.

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/package

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Tom

   On 9/17/2015 9:46 PM, Benoît Minisini wrote:

 Le 18/09/2015 03:23, Tom a écrit :

 Sorry... it looks like a duck to me.
 On 9/17/2015 7:15 PM, Benoît Minisini wrote:
   Finally I found the last version of Fabien's icon too scaring (that
   staring wide eyes... b).
   Here is the last version I propose. Don't be too long to contest it,
 I
   want to put it in Gambas 3.8.2
   Regards,

 For me a duck is that... I don't see the likeness!
 I really should have said "chicken". Sorry, it's just how my mind saw
 it...  :-[

   Here are some different sizes similar to the original (which I think was
   more like a lobster than a shrimp).
   (sorry if this was discussed a lot before, I'm late seeing this thread)


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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Moviga Technologies
 

Which package should they be in? The gambas3-gb-ide package? 
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.746&from=L21haW4-

Moviga TECHNOLOGIES added an attachment:

RedshiftMasterTool-0.1.tar.gz



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.746&from=L21haW4-

Moviga TECHNOLOGIES reported a new bug.

Summary
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Debug is not producing output in some cases

Type : Bug
Priority : Medium
Gambas version   : 3.8.90 (TRUNK)
Product  : Language


Description
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Try alternating between Debug and Print on MGlobal, line 57 and 60. Debug 
prints nothing, while Print does.





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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.746&from=L21haW4-

Comment #1 by Benoît MINISINI:

No problem there. Please elaborate...



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.746&from=L21haW4-

Comment #2 by Moviga TECHNOLOGIES:

This does not print anything at all:

'Loading custom up profiles
  If Exist(CONFIG_FOLDER) Then
Debug "CONFIG_FOLDER exits"
For Each f In Dir(CONFIG_FOLDER, "*.conf", gb.File)
  $aProfiles.Add(File.BaseName(f))
  Debug "Found the profile: " & File.BaseName(f)
Next
  Else
Shell "mkdir -p " & CONFIG_FOLDER
  Endif


This works as expected and both instances of Print is printing:

'Loading custom up profiles
  If Exist(CONFIG_FOLDER) Then
Print "CONFIG_FOLDER exits"
For Each f In Dir(CONFIG_FOLDER, "*.conf", gb.File)
  $aProfiles.Add(File.BaseName(f))
  Print "Found the profile: " & File.BaseName(f)
Next
  Else
Shell "mkdir -p " & CONFIG_FOLDER
  Endif

As you can see, I use Debug other places and there it works. It is just here 
that it doesn't for some reason.



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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Fabien Bodard
It is not working for me see the screenshot

the Template path is not exist and ide crash

2015-09-18 16:34 GMT+02:00 Moviga Technologies :
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> Which package should they be in? The gambas3-gb-ide package?
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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 18/09/2015 21:57, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
> It is not working for me see the screenshot
>
> the Template path is not exist and ide crash
>

In revison #7324 the IDE won't crash anymore if the template directory 
does not exist.

But it should. I guess your installation of Gambas failed somewhere.

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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
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Comment #3 by Jussi LAHTINEN:

I will get "MGlobal.Init.57: CONFIG_FOLDER exits", but since the folder is 
empty the For Each loop is not executed.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #746: Debug is not producing output in some cases

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.746&from=L21haW4-

Comment #4 by Moviga TECHNOLOGIES:

For some reason unbeknownst to me, it is now working correctly... I have not 
done any modifications, and have no idea what just happened, If it returns I 
will try to understand what triggers it.



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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Adrien Prokopowicz
Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 01:15:27 +0200, Benoît Minisini  
 a écrit:



Finally I found the last version of Fabien's icon too scaring (that
staring wide eyes... b).

Here is the last version I propose. Don't be too long to contest it, I
want to put it in Gambas 3.8.2

Regards,



I like this version a lot, personally. It looks clean and balanced. :)

There are a few things that I wanted to tweak though, tell me
what you think of these :

- I used a slightly darker color, it didn't look pronounced enough on a
  light background to me.
- There were a few control points that were not on integer coordinates.
  The head now has an exact size of 14 * 13px, which makes it scale much
  better for larger icons.
- I made the eye and mouth transparent, so it doesn't look off on non-white
  backgrounds. It is also a logical requirement for the Breeze theme  
integration.

- The biggest problem to me was the IDE icon integration. The new head
  didn't look good at all on the old square, to me at least. So I made
  another one, using the same circle idea I used for the website.

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Moviga Technologies
 

I think this is getting somewhere :) The best I have seen so far! 

 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 19/09/2015 01:18, Adrien Prokopowicz a écrit :
> Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 01:15:27 +0200, Benoît Minisini
>  a écrit:
>
>> Finally I found the last version of Fabien's icon too scaring (that
>> staring wide eyes... b).
>>
>> Here is the last version I propose. Don't be too long to contest it, I
>> want to put it in Gambas 3.8.2
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
> I like this version a lot, personally. It looks clean and balanced. :)
>
> There are a few things that I wanted to tweak though, tell me
> what you think of these :
>
> - I used a slightly darker color, it didn't look pronounced enough on a
>light background to me.

I just used the blue color of the website. How it looks depends on your 
monitor, its color temperature, your perception of colours...

> - There were a few control points that were not on integer coordinates.
>The head now has an exact size of 14 * 13px, which makes it scale much
>better for larger icons.

I didn't notice, so cool.

> - I made the eye and mouth transparent, so it doesn't look off on non-white
>backgrounds. It is also a logical requirement for the Breeze theme
> integration.

I didn't know how to do that, so cool too.

> - The biggest problem to me was the IDE icon integration. The new head
>didn't look good at all on the old square, to me at least. So I made
>another one, using the same circle idea I used for the website.

I don't get it: which icon is replaced by that new one?

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Adrien Prokopowicz
Le Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:30:47 +0200, Benoît Minisini  
 a écrit:

> Le 19/09/2015 01:18, Adrien Prokopowicz a écrit
>>
>> - I used a slightly darker color, it didn't look pronounced enough on a
>>light background to me.
>
> I just used the blue color of the website. How it looks depends on your
> monitor, its color temperature, your perception of colours...

That's true. If you prefer the brighter one just keep it, that's no big
deal. :)

>
>> - I made the eye and mouth transparent, so it doesn't look off on  
>> non-white
>>backgrounds. It is also a logical requirement for the Breeze theme
>> integration.
>
> I didn't know how to do that, so cool too.

I used the "Path>Exclusion" tool of Inkscape, after selecting the two
objects (head and the mouth for example), and voilà. :)

>> - The biggest problem to me was the IDE icon integration. The new head
>>didn't look good at all on the old square, to me at least. So I made
>>another one, using the same circle idea I used for the website.
>
> I don't get it: which icon is replaced by that new one?
>

The IDE's window icon, i.e. the app/src/gambas3/img/logo/logo-ide.png one.
Having it in 256px also makes it a lot cleaner on high-res displays and in
task switchers.

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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #741: Instruction on Wiki for 'How to package' inconsistent for gambas3-ide

2015-09-18 Thread bugtracker
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Comment #6 by gbWilly GAMBOS:

Yes, it seems okay now.



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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:26:54 +0200
Moviga Technologies  wrote:

>  
> 
> I think this is getting somewhere :) The best I have seen so far! 
> 
>  
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I actually wish I had never looked at this thread. 
Now I can see both the damned duck and the damned chicken,
I have locked my /usr/share/gambas3/icons directory (chmod 444 *), I hope this 
stops any changes.
I guess by now you should have guessed that I don't like it.
But don't let that stop you all.

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[Gambas-user] Align consts for gridview

2015-09-18 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
It seems to me that Align.TopCenter and Align.BottomCenter are missing.
Can these be added or is there something mysterious 

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Moviga Technologies
 

The power of OpenSource my friend! You can make it what ever you want!
You could even make a (Gambas-)script that replaces the icon for you
after each time you update Gambas, as that would not interfere with your
package manager as opposed to the solution you explained here will do. 

 
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[Gambas-user] _gridview_cell border property

2015-09-18 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
I have previously had this working really nicely, but now I can't find any 
information on how to use the Border class as a static function nor how to set 
the border "css". 
Any ideas? I think Benoit may have only described how to in the original mail 
message?

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Re: [Gambas-user] Align consts for gridview

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 19/09/2015 02:07, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit :
> It seems to me that Align.TopCenter and Align.BottomCenter are missing.
> Can these be added or is there something mysterious 
>
> regards
> bruce
>

It's "Align.Top" and "Align.Bottom".

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Re: [Gambas-user] Align consts for gridview

2015-09-18 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 02:30:32 +0200
Benoît Minisini  wrote:

> Le 19/09/2015 02:07, adamn...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > It seems to me that Align.TopCenter and Align.BottomCenter are missing.
> > Can these be added or is there something mysterious 
> >
> > regards
> > bruce
> >
> 
> It's "Align.Top" and "Align.Bottom".
> 
> Regards,
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> 

Aha! Thanks.
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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Adrien Prokopowicz
Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:12:49 +0200, Benoît Minisini  
 a écrit:

> Le 18/09/2015 09:45, Jorge Carrión a écrit :
>> That is a fine option, Benoit!
>> I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries,  
>> copying
>> and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a  
>> template
>> with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
>> Keep doing the goob work...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>
> So am I. I don't know why nobody asked for that. Or maybe I missed it.
>

I don't remember anyone asking for this either. That's weird, because
this feature is awesome ! :)

I have one question though : why are there different project templates
for each GUI toolkit ? Because we can switch toolkits so easily,
isn't "Graphical Application" enough ?
Plus, it's very confusing for less experimented developers who might
not even know what Qt and GTK+ are.

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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 19/09/2015 03:26, Adrien Prokopowicz a écrit :
> Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:12:49 +0200, Benoît Minisini
>  a écrit:
>
>> Le 18/09/2015 09:45, Jorge Carrión a écrit :
>>> That is a fine option, Benoit!
>>> I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries,
>>> copying
>>> and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a
>>> template
>>> with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
>>> Keep doing the goob work...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>> So am I. I don't know why nobody asked for that. Or maybe I missed it.
>>
>
> I don't remember anyone asking for this either. That's weird, because
> this feature is awesome ! :)
>
> I have one question though : why are there different project templates
> for each GUI toolkit ? Because we can switch toolkits so easily,
> isn't "Graphical Application" enough ?
> Plus, it's very confusing for less experimented developers who might
> not even know what Qt and GTK+ are.
>

Because they were mainly there before. And if a less experimented 
developer is not aware of what QT and GTK+ are, he will quickly have 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Adrien Prokopowicz
Le Sat, 19 Sep 2015 03:51:01 +0200, Benoît Minisini  
 a écrit:

> Le 19/09/2015 03:26, Adrien Prokopowicz a écrit :
>> Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:12:49 +0200, Benoît Minisini
>>  a écrit:
>>
>>> Le 18/09/2015 09:45, Jorge Carrión a écrit :
 That is a fine option, Benoit!
 I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries,
 copying
 and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a
 template
 with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
 Keep doing the goob work...

 Regards

>>>
>>> So am I. I don't know why nobody asked for that. Or maybe I missed it.
>>>
>>
>> I don't remember anyone asking for this either. That's weird, because
>> this feature is awesome ! :)
>>
>> I have one question though : why are there different project templates
>> for each GUI toolkit ? Because we can switch toolkits so easily,
>> isn't "Graphical Application" enough ?
>> Plus, it's very confusing for less experimented developers who might
>> not even know what Qt and GTK+ are.
>>
>
> Because they were mainly there before. And if a less experimented
> developer is not aware of what QT and GTK+ are, he will quickly have
> problems, so...
>

Will he ? You probably know better than me, but I never had any problem
letting gb.gui choose for me when making a GUI project.
Also, when getting someone to discover Gambas, I always say "Just use
Graphical Application, it will automagically select the right toolkit",
and it always worked fine.

Even as a more experienced user, I see restricting my GUI app to a
specific toolkit basically useless, unless I want to use Qt-specific
components (like ext or webkit), which happens very rarely. And if I
ever want to use these, it's just so easy to click a few checkboxes
in the components dialog.

But of course, that's just my opinion. :)

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[Gambas-user] OpenAL 1.0.1 Example published to Software Farm

2015-09-18 Thread Kevin Fishburne
Enjoy, and some decent reference docs are here (posting because they 
seem near impossible to find):

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenAL-1.4.0.2/docs/Sound-OpenAL-AL-Attenuation.html
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenAL-1.7.0.1/docs/Sound-OpenAL-AL-Source.html

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[Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

2015-09-18 Thread Kevin Fishburne
When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for 
syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is 
awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to 
clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate 
between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then 
causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump 
between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to 
clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and 
consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly 
interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for 
possibly years.

I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality 
entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse 
alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else 
experiencing this or is it just me?

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Re: [Gambas-user] Project templates

2015-09-18 Thread Fabien Bodard
Ok it work now... sorry i have not reconf the app path.

I'm agree with Adrien ... there is too many template for the same
thing. It pollute the lisibility. Just one for graphica app which
explain that the lib choose the underlying component depending of the
current desktop envirronment. Maybe a link in the description pointing
to a wiki page could be a good idea. On this page the template then
can be explained more further.

then a template for SDL, generic BDD (with init code base), etc The
basic templates of the ide must be there to help beginner to begin.

2015-09-19 4:34 GMT+02:00 Adrien Prokopowicz :
> Le Sat, 19 Sep 2015 03:51:01 +0200, Benoît Minisini
>  a écrit:
>
>> Le 19/09/2015 03:26, Adrien Prokopowicz a écrit :
>>> Le Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:12:49 +0200, Benoît Minisini
>>>  a écrit:
>>>
 Le 18/09/2015 09:45, Jorge Carrión a écrit :
> That is a fine option, Benoit!
> I always begin a proyect by choosing components, linking libraries,
> copying
> and pastin company icons, etc. etc. now I suppouse I can create a
> template
> with all that stuff an just click on new... Awsome!
> Keep doing the goob work...
>
> Regards
>

 So am I. I don't know why nobody asked for that. Or maybe I missed it.

>>>
>>> I don't remember anyone asking for this either. That's weird, because
>>> this feature is awesome ! :)
>>>
>>> I have one question though : why are there different project templates
>>> for each GUI toolkit ? Because we can switch toolkits so easily,
>>> isn't "Graphical Application" enough ?
>>> Plus, it's very confusing for less experimented developers who might
>>> not even know what Qt and GTK+ are.
>>>
>>
>> Because they were mainly there before. And if a less experimented
>> developer is not aware of what QT and GTK+ are, he will quickly have
>> problems, so...
>>
>
> Will he ? You probably know better than me, but I never had any problem
> letting gb.gui choose for me when making a GUI project.
> Also, when getting someone to discover Gambas, I always say "Just use
> Graphical Application, it will automagically select the right toolkit",
> and it always worked fine.
>
> Even as a more experienced user, I see restricting my GUI app to a
> specific toolkit basically useless, unless I want to use Qt-specific
> components (like ext or webkit), which happens very rarely. And if I
> ever want to use these, it's just so easy to click a few checkboxes
> in the components dialog.
>
> But of course, that's just my opinion. :)
>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas new icon

2015-09-18 Thread Fabien Bodard
This is not to replace the old shrimp ... just for icon theming

2015-09-19 2:10 GMT+02:00 Moviga Technologies :
>
>
> The power of OpenSource my friend! You can make it what ever you want!
> You could even make a (Gambas-)script that replaces the icon for you
> after each time you update Gambas, as that would not interfere with your
> package manager as opposed to the solution you explained here will do.
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