Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas Website Mockups

2015-09-02 Thread Rolf-Werner Eilert
Hi Adrien,

You are right - it's not that important, and although my own adblocker 
doesn't block it, it might be blocked by many others, so it's of less use.

Benoit made his point on the look, and I will answer him with a few 
thoughts, too.

Regards
Rolf


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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas Website Mockups

2015-09-02 Thread Rolf-Werner Eilert

Am 02.09.2015 02:28, schrieb Benoît Minisini:
> Hi Adrien,
>
> Can you take a look at http://kubuntu.org? They have redesigned their
> web site, and this is what I mean by "removing all the borders".
>
> It's the kind of flat design I'd like to have for the new website.
>
> Moreover, I'd like to have menus only when the screen space is very
> small. Otherwise buttons...
>
> And it's better IMHO to limit the width of the text paragraphs, because
> too wide text lines are harder to read.
>
> If you can make what you did, which is already nice, flat like kubuntu
> website, I will be very happy. :-)
>
> Regards,
>

Looking at the kubuntu.org site, I feel that its design is very "modern" 
but it's one of these sites with an "entrance door" concept. I like the 
blog concept for sites like Gambas more.

When I come to a site like this kubuntu one, I feel like in front of a 
large shop somewhere in town, big ads hanging in the windows, but will I 
dare to step just in and find out what's inside? Which door should I 
take to learn more? Will there be someone to tell me what is going on in 
the project right now? It looks cool, but at the same time it seems to 
ask "do you guy really want us? Better think twice!"

On a blog-like site I feel like bumping into a happy crowd of active 
people handing me a flyer at once, saying "that's new" and asking "what 
can we do for you". It's like being taken by the hand and lead into a 
busy market place.

By the way, that's why I have the website of my own business in a 
blog-like style. So apart from any design things, personally I would 
stick with the blog-like concept.

Just my two cents.

Rolf


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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas Website Mockups

2015-09-02 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 02/09/2015 12:29, Rolf-Werner Eilert a écrit :
>
> Am 02.09.2015 02:28, schrieb Benoît Minisini:
>> Hi Adrien,
>>
>> Can you take a look at http://kubuntu.org? They have redesigned their
>> web site, and this is what I mean by "removing all the borders".
>>
>> It's the kind of flat design I'd like to have for the new website.
>>
>> Moreover, I'd like to have menus only when the screen space is very
>> small. Otherwise buttons...
>>
>> And it's better IMHO to limit the width of the text paragraphs, because
>> too wide text lines are harder to read.
>>
>> If you can make what you did, which is already nice, flat like kubuntu
>> website, I will be very happy. :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
> Looking at the kubuntu.org site, I feel that its design is very "modern"
> but it's one of these sites with an "entrance door" concept. I like the
> blog concept for sites like Gambas more.
>
> When I come to a site like this kubuntu one, I feel like in front of a
> large shop somewhere in town, big ads hanging in the windows, but will I
> dare to step just in and find out what's inside? Which door should I
> take to learn more? Will there be someone to tell me what is going on in
> the project right now? It looks cool, but at the same time it seems to
> ask "do you guy really want us? Better think twice!"
>
> On a blog-like site I feel like bumping into a happy crowd of active
> people handing me a flyer at once, saying "that's new" and asking "what
> can we do for you". It's like being taken by the hand and lead into a
> busy market place.
>
> By the way, that's why I have the website of my own business in a
> blog-like style. So apart from any design things, personally I would
> stick with the blog-like concept.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Rolf
>

I do want that the main page is like a blog. I'd just like a flatter design.

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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #708: Commented code is being run

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Moviga TECHNOLOGIES reported a new bug.

Summary
---

Commented code is being run

Type : Bug
Priority : High
Gambas version   : 3.8.90 (TRUNK)
Product  : Development Environment


Description
---

The last week or so, I've been experiencing that code I have commented out is 
being run anyway.
One way is that the code is not valid and it gives me an error inside the 
comment. Another way is that my program still does that which I just commented 
out. It does also happen that comments that I use one ' is formatted as if I 
gave it two ''.

I have no project or way of replicating the bug yet, but I'll tell more if I 
find a pattern of what is causing it.





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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #708: Commented code is being run

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Comment #1 by Jussi LAHTINEN:

What kind of commented code is run (please copy&paste some example line of 
code)?

Is the commented code correctly highlighted as commented in the IDE?



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #707: PPA problem, please repair gambas3-gb-dbus package.

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Comment #5 by Zainudin AHMAD:

It's has fixed, thank you very much.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #707: PPA problem, please repair gambas3-gb-dbus package.

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Comment #6 by Zainudin AHMAD:

sorry, it's fixed only for daily. but the other not fixed. attach pic
I will try again to update after 24 hours.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #707: PPA problem, please repair gambas3-gb-dbus package.

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Comment #7 by Sebastian KULESZ:

I know it's not fixed in the stable PPA. With the imminent release of Gambas 
3.8.1, I didn't want to create any confusion. The fix will be included as soon 
as Benoît releases a stable source package for the new version.



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #707: PPA problem, please repair gambas3-gb-dbus package.

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Zainudin AHMAD added an attachment:

pic-3.png



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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #707: PPA problem, please repair gambas3-gb-dbus package.

2015-09-02 Thread bugtracker
Comment #8 by Benoît MINISINI:

It's on his way... :-)



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[Gambas-user] Pre-release of Gambas 3.8.1

2015-09-02 Thread Benoît Minisini
Hi,

As usual, here is a pre-release package of Gambas 3.8.1 at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gambas/files/gambas3/gambas3-3.8.1.tar.bz2/download

Please test it if possible, and report any problem before I make the 
release official.

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Re: [Gambas-user] Pre-release of Gambas 3.8.1

2015-09-02 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 03/09/2015 01:57, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> As usual, here is a pre-release package of Gambas 3.8.1 at:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gambas/files/gambas3/gambas3-3.8.1.tar.bz2/download
>
> Please test it if possible, and report any problem before I make the
> release official.
>
> Regards,
>

The list of bug fixes is available now at 
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.8.1

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Re: [Gambas-user] Pre-release of Gambas 3.8.1

2015-09-02 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 02:46:49 +0200
Benoît Minisini  wrote:

> Le 03/09/2015 01:57, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > As usual, here is a pre-release package of Gambas 3.8.1 at:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/gambas/files/gambas3/gambas3-3.8.1.tar.bz2/download
> >
> > Please test it if possible, and report any problem before I make the
> > release official.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> The list of bug fixes is available now at 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.8.1
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Benoît Minisini
> 
There is a problem with the Packager for autotools.  I am still trying to 
figure out whether it is something in the Package.module:MakeAutotoolsPackage 
method or in one of the data/install/ template files. Essentially even though 
the "COMPONENT_build" AC_SUBST seems to be set correctly (to '1') the 
"COMPONENT_name" AC_SUBST is not being set.

This happens as far back as the ./configure stage as per config.log excerpt 
below:

## - ##
## Output variables. ##
## - ##

ACLOCAL='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing 
aclocal-1.14'
AMTAR='$${TAR-tar}'
AM_BACKSLASH='\'
AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY='1'
AM_V='$(V)'
AUTOCONF='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing 
autoconf'
AUTOHEADER='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing 
autoheader'
AUTOMAKE='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing 
automake-1.14'
AWK='gawk'
COMPONENT_build='1'
COMPONENT_name=''
CYGPATH_W='echo'


as a result the autotools package will not "make install" properly - it creates 
a /usr/lib/gambas/.gambas file etc.

I suspect (but am not sure) the bit of code that creates the configure.ac file 
at ~line 1967 of the Package.module - I beleive GB_INIT_PROJECT needs two 
arguments, the second being the component name.

Have to go out today so I won't have a chance to add any further info till 
later.

regards
bruce

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Re: [Gambas-user] Pre-release of Gambas 3.8.1

2015-09-02 Thread Sebastian Kulesz
I'm gonna chime in and use Bruce's comment to say something i've been
thinking of lately. Some of you may remember, I was once working on porting
the build system Gambas uses from automake to Cmake. The work i did was
left stalled mostly because managing and merging the changes in trunk while
I was working on a different tree was impossible in SVN. Once (if?) Gambas
moves to Git, using a branch to further develop this project would be much,
much easier than it was.

Regarding Bruce's problem, the move to Cmake would make building an
equivalent to an autotools package as simple as adding a CMakeLists.txt to
the project root. Moreover, Gambas does not need to "./configure" a source
tree, as it does not have to look for headers or libraries to include, and
resolve their paths.

I just wanted to say that, to add a reason to move the development of
Gambas to a Git repository.

If you want to skip the autotools package entirely, consider adding a
Makefile to the root of the project. This would be easier to maintain,
easier to customize, and to create a release you would just need to create
a source archive. You can use this one [0] as an example, i'm using it
currently to create releases for my project.

Sorry for making so much noise. I know i didn't solve the original problem
you are having, but i just wanted to mention that there are radical
solutions that would bring a lot of advantages to the project. ;)

[0]
https://github.com/sebikul/mundus/blob/0e0e9c3644e46b3a17e521da29f4b2fc4fd09b20/Makefile

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:21 PM, adamn...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 02:46:49 +0200
> Benoît Minisini  wrote:
>
> > Le 03/09/2015 01:57, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As usual, here is a pre-release package of Gambas 3.8.1 at:
> > >
> > >
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gambas/files/gambas3/gambas3-3.8.1.tar.bz2/download
> > >
> > > Please test it if possible, and report any problem before I make the
> > > release official.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> >
> > The list of bug fixes is available now at
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.8.1
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Benoît Minisini
> >
> There is a problem with the Packager for autotools.  I am still trying to
> figure out whether it is something in the
> Package.module:MakeAutotoolsPackage method or in one of the data/install/
> template files. Essentially even though the "COMPONENT_build" AC_SUBST
> seems to be set correctly (to '1') the "COMPONENT_name" AC_SUBST is not
> being set.
>
> This happens as far back as the ./configure stage as per config.log
> excerpt below:
>
> ## - ##
> ## Output variables. ##
> ## - ##
>
> ACLOCAL='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing
> aclocal-1.14'
> AMTAR='$${TAR-tar}'
> AM_BACKSLASH='\'
> AM_DEFAULT_V='$(AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY)'
> AM_DEFAULT_VERBOSITY='1'
> AM_V='$(V)'
> AUTOCONF='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing
> autoconf'
> AUTOHEADER='${SHELL}
> /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing autoheader'
> AUTOMAKE='${SHELL} /home/bb/paddys-hill-workarea/horseUtil-0.0.16/missing
> automake-1.14'
> AWK='gawk'
> COMPONENT_build='1'
> COMPONENT_name=''
> CYGPATH_W='echo'
>
>
> as a result the autotools package will not "make install" properly - it
> creates a /usr/lib/gambas/.gambas file etc.
>
> I suspect (but am not sure) the bit of code that creates the configure.ac
> file at ~line 1967 of the Package.module - I beleive GB_INIT_PROJECT needs
> two arguments, the second being the component name.
>
> Have to go out today so I won't have a chance to add any further info till
> later.
>
> regards
> bruce
>
> --
> B Bruen 
>
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