Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So would I. Turning that book into a wiki is a great Idea. Would John
> be up for that though?
>

I would be happy to host this wiki. I'll set it up and the group here  
can pick an administrator which can assign sysop's to help.

http://Gambas.AllBasic.Info

I would install Mediawiki as the platform.

Just over the net and in your court. ;-)


John

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Hamish Robertson
Er, I think this one should be up to John. :)

I've emailed him. See what he says.

H.

On 01/09/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> So would I. Turning that book into a wiki is a great Idea. Would John
>> be up for that though?
>>
>
> I would be happy to host this wiki. I'll set it up and the group here
> can pick an administrator which can assign sysop's to help.
>
> http://Gambas.AllBasic.Info
>
> I would install Mediawiki as the platform.
>
> Just over the net and in your court. ;-)
>
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> John
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Re: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu packages updated

2008-09-01 Thread MaxVK

Hello there. Many thanks for supplying this information.

However, I have something of a problem (I think).

Iv added the line "deb http://azores.linex.org/gambas-other gutsy main" and
quite correctly the update is picked up by the system. However, when the
update manager lists the available updates I am told that only a partial
update is possible.

Further examination within synaptic allows me to select all of the available
updates but when I click apply the list of changes includes completely
removing both of the applications that I have written with Gambas and use on
a regular basis.

The currently installed versions of the updates are reported as 2.0.00910

Is there some way around this or do I need to recompile and re-install my
current programs?

I know I'm a bit behind the current versions, but Iv been off the computer
for some time now and I'm eager to catch up and carry on where I left off.

Regards

Max








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> 
> Hi:
> 
> I've updated Ubuntu packages at gnuLinEx site to 2.4.1:
> 
> Gutsy -> amd64 and i386
> Feisty -> amd64 and i386
> Edgy  -> i386
> 
> I'll soon abandon Edgy support, there are quite few downloads for that
> version in the logs, I made them mainly for Guadalinex spanish
> distribution but soon they will upgrade to Ubuntu 8.
> 
> For sources.list file:
> 
> deb http://azores.linex.org/gambas-other gutsy main
> 
> or
> 
> deb http://azores.linex.org/gambas-other feisty main
> 
> or
> 
> deb http://azores.linex.org/gambas-other edgy main
> 
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> 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Er, I think this one should be up to John. :)
>
> I've emailed him. See what he says.
>

I didn't get your e-mail so try support_AT_scriptbasic_DOT_org .

If you already have permission to make this a GNU FDL document, I have  
no problem with facilitating it as a sub-domain of All Basic. Moving  
the content to the wiki will have to the Gambas groups project.


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Er, I think this one should be up to John. :)
>

I fine with it after reading the license and restrictions.

Sure would be nice if someone could move this into Open Office which  
exports to Mediawiki.

I'll post something here when the wiki is ready for use.


John


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[Gambas-user] broken link

2008-09-01 Thread Mike
Benoit, on the Gambas site the link bellow seems to be broken.
 
http://gambas.gnulinex.org/ubuntu
 
Regards
Mike

 

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
So did John give permission for the book to go wiki?
How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat ?

Best Regards
Kari Laine



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> Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > Er, I think this one should be up to John. :)
> >
>
> I fine with it after reading the license and restrictions.
>
> Sure would be nice if someone could move this into Open Office which
> exports to Mediawiki.
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> I'll post something here when the wiki is ready for use.
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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So did John give permission for the book to go wiki?
> How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat ?
>
> Best Regards
> Kari Laine

Hi Kari,

I have the http://gambas.allbasic.info domain active with a temporary  
home page. I will install Mediawiki tomorrow. (late here) You will  
need to register an account on the wiki with a valid e-mail address to  
post. (helps with spam bots)

Open Office will export to Mediawiki format. I'll take a shot at  
converting the PDF to a HTML document after the wiki is installed. If  
someone else can take care of content preparation that would be great.

John



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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 12:33:58 schrieb Kari Laine:
> So did John give permission for the book to go wiki?
> How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat
> ?
>
> Best Regards
> Kari Laine
If John would give permission to use his book as basis for a wiki, he also 
could donate his original script...both depends on the contracts between John 
and the publishing company.

Greetz
Stevie


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Am Montag, 1. September 2008 12:33:58 schrieb Kari Laine:
>> So did John give permission for the book to go wiki?
>> How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat
>> ?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Kari Laine
> If John would give permission to use his book as basis for a wiki, he also
> could donate his original script...both depends on the contracts between John
> and the publishing company.
>
> Greetz
> Stevie

Based on what I understand from the license section of the PDF, the  
book was made an open document with the ability to expand on it. If I  
read it wrong, please correct my error.

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Re: [Gambas-user] New feature in Gambas 3 development version

2008-09-01 Thread Doriano Blengino
Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> If you use the development version, now you can declare typed object arrays:
>
> DIM ArrayOfLabels AS Label[8, 8]
>
> The Label[] class is dynamically created by the interpreter the first time it 
> is used. 
>
> It has exactly the same features as the Object[] class, except that it always 
> returns Labels, not Objects.
>
> So, something like:
>
>   ArrayOfLabels[1, 1].Text = "Hello"
>
> becomes faster as the interpreter now knows that ArrayOfLabels[1, 1] returns 
> a 
> label, and so can optimize the property access.
>   
I think that every step in direction of more strong typing is a good 
step, for two reasons. First is the possibility for the compiler to 
check for type mismatches: it is better to catch errors at compile time 
instead to catch them at runtime. Next, optimization and speed-up is an 
added value, thanks to the fact that the interpreter already knows what 
is happening.

> This feature is more powerful. Any class can be followed by "[]" to become an 
> typed array class, and this process is recursive.
>
> So "String[][][]" is an array of array of array of String! I don't know if it 
> useful in that specific case...
>   
Generalization of concepts is always good, in my opinion; one can think 
at something, and know that it will work, without exceptions. Why one 
could have an "array of labels", but not an "array of arrays (of 
something)"? I suspect that an array of array is simply a bi-dimensional 
array (at least at the logic level - for the CPU they could be two 
different things), but still prefer to have two different ways to 
declare it.

> I want to enhance this "template" feature: I'd like to do something like:
>
> DIM MyIndex AS String.Collection
>
> to be able to declare a Collection whose elements are strings. It could be 
> faster than using the standard Collection, whose elements are variants.
>   
Again, strong typization is the key. Variants are nice, but they should 
be used only when convenient. If all that one wants are numbers (for 
example, integers), then an Integer.Collection saves memory and CPU 
time, code is clearer, and more protected from errors. In fact, I always 
look with suspect to heterogeneous collections, lists or arrays. There 
are languages which proudly claim to have heterogeneous lists; I think 
they should be avoided as much as possible. There are cases where this 
is almost required, for example the collection of controls owned by a 
Form but, in my opinion, they should be typecasted explicitly by the 
programmer.

To do the same thing (a homogeneous collection of something), other 
languages require to derive a new collection type from the ancestor one, 
which contains the basilar function of "Collection". While this is 
powerful, it is also tedious and unnecessary most of the times... so, I 
definately say that I would be very content about this feature.

> And maybe we could go further: using any class as template. Something like:
>
> DIM MyListOfString AS String.List
>
> where List is a class written in Gambas.
>
> I don't know that last feature would be really useful anyway.
>   
Right now, nothing comes to my mind about the usefulness of such a 
thing. And I suspect it is nearly impossible to implement in a correct 
way. But there are counter reasons to both the sentences. Nobody can say 
a thing is useless just because he can not imagine a useful way to 
deploy it... so, who can tell?
The second argument is more strict. If we think at the List class as 
something similar to a collection, then the List class should implement 
methods to read, write, add and delete elements (strings, in this case). 
All these things are already present in Collection class. If we do not 
think at the Collection similarity, then what could the List class do? 
And how should it be implemented? And why should we have a declarative 
part (the "AS String.List") possibly conflicting with the implementation 
part? The implementation of the List class already should/could contain 
methods which require/return the correct type (String), so an added 
declaration is a complication. In other words, I see a conflict between 
declaration (String.List) and implementation of the List class, unless 
the List class always talks "variants", and the compiler converts the 
variant type from/to String (because String is in declaration 
String.List). Please note: the compiler does type conversion, not the 
interpreter. In the latter case, these things are already present in the 
language (at interpreter level). If what is wanted is a more specialized 
version of Collection, with added functionalities, then inheriting from 
Collection would be more appropriate.

Hope I succeded in explaining myself. I can't remember right now if it 
is possible in gambas to define array properties but, if it is so, then 
all the semantics required to cover the Collection/Array are already 
present. If array properties are not inside, they could be added...

Anyway

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
>
>
> Based on what I understand from the license section of the PDF, the
> book was made an open document with the ability to expand on it. If I
> read it wrong, please correct my error.
>
> I think the original text is still needed. I tried to convert it with
pdftohtml and got this error

susePK1:/home/kari/kirjat # pdftohtml gambas_beginner_guide.pdf gambas.html
Error: Copying of text from this document is not allowed.

So the pdf is protected. I don't know whether it possible to hack pdftohtml
to ignore that...

If it is really open document and publishing company or John don't object it
we could divide the work to 50 pages each and start typing :-) But it would
be nice to get the source.

Best Regards
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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>>
>>
>> Based on what I understand from the license section of the PDF, the
>> book was made an open document with the ability to expand on it. If I
>> read it wrong, please correct my error.
>>
>> I think the original text is still needed. I tried to convert it with
> pdftohtml and got this error
>
> susePK1:/home/kari/kirjat # pdftohtml gambas_beginner_guide.pdf gambas.html
> Error: Copying of text from this document is not allowed.
>
> So the pdf is protected. I don't know whether it possible to hack pdftohtml
> to ignore that...
>
> If it is really open document and publishing company or John don't object it
> we could divide the work to 50 pages each and start typing :-) But it would
> be nice to get the source.
>


Kari,

I tried as well.

Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source document?

John



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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread charlesg

Hi,

Perhaps this is all a bit premature without John's approval!

You would not have to type it: it cuts 'n pastes ok.


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
> Kari,
>
> I tried as well.
>
> Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source
> document?
>
> John
>

Hi John,


I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in
pdftohtml to ignore some kind of protection and out it came. BUT there is no
layout, no pictures only the text. So it is big job to turn it to a nice
document. Anyway the screen capture pictures would probably be old anyway.

I read the OpenContent license of the book and if I understood right it
would make difficult to produce derivative work or wiki - quite impossible
in fact.

Maybe someone with leverage - Benoit - could contact John W Rittinghouse and
ask.

Fact is Gambas needs more documentation to lure users. Also I would be
prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used now
countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn
stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscated code contest :-) before this day
I know very little about compilers and interpreters and I am not very good
with C - so it is going to take few months...

And Windows version would be nice too :-)


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[Gambas-user] HBox from right to left?

2008-09-01 Thread Ron
Hi,

I want -for example- align a clock textfield in my status bar on the 
righthand side, and keep it far right after resizing my window.

But there is only a HBox which aligns from left to right, how about one 
pointing the other way, does that makes sense?

Regards,
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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Benoit Minisini
On lundi 01 septembre 2008, KI have nari Laine wrote:
> > Kari,
> >
> > I tried as well.
> >
> > Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source
> > document?
> >
> > John
>
> Hi John,
>
>
> I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in
> pdftohtml to ignore some kind of protection and out it came. BUT there is
> no layout, no pictures only the text. So it is big job to turn it to a nice
> document. Anyway the screen capture pictures would probably be old anyway.
>
> I read the OpenContent license of the book and if I understood right it
> would make difficult to produce derivative work or wiki - quite impossible
> in fact.
>
> Maybe someone with leverage - Benoit - could contact John W Rittinghouse
> and ask.

I have no news from him since he sent me its book. I think I have lost its 
email in my annual email bleedings.

>
> Fact is Gambas needs more documentation to lure users. 

I agree. If only I have more time!

> Also I would be 
> prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used now
> countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn
> stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscated code contest :-) before this
> day I know very little about compilers and interpreters and I am not very
> good with C - so it is going to take few months...

Maybe this is the main reason of your problems. I admit I don't document my 
code a lot, but I don't obfuscate it at all. 

If you choose good symbol names, and if you do logical things, your code is 
usually almost explain itself.

I will try to comment the interpreter better now I know that somebody tries to 
understand it. And I will answer your questions too. But you should first 
really learn the C language and get some information about compilers and 
interpreters.

>
> And Windows version would be nice too :-)
>

I won't do it. But if there is a volunteer, I will help him.

>
> Best Regards
> Kari Laine

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Re: [Gambas-user] HBox from right to left?

2008-09-01 Thread Benoit Minisini
On lundi 01 septembre 2008, Ron wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want -for example- align a clock textfield in my status bar on the
> righthand side, and keep it far right after resizing my window.
>
> But there is only a HBox which aligns from left to right, how about one
> pointing the other way, does that makes sense?
>
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd
>

There is a trick. :-) 

Put a panel with Expand property set at the beginning of the HBox, and 
everything will be pushed to the right.

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Re: [Gambas-user] HBox from right to left?

2008-09-01 Thread Ron
Benoit Minisini schreef:
> On lundi 01 septembre 2008, Ron wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want -for example- align a clock textfield in my status bar on the
>> righthand side, and keep it far right after resizing my window.
>>
>> But there is only a HBox which aligns from left to right, how about one
>> pointing the other way, does that makes sense?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ron_2nd
>>
>> 
>
> There is a trick. :-) 
>
> Put a panel with Expand property set at the beginning of the HBox, and 
> everything will be pushed to the right.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
That works, thanks!

Regards,
Ron_2nd.


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Benoit Minisini <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Also I would be
> > prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used
> now
> > countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn
> > stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscated code contest :-) before this
> > day I know very little about compilers and interpreters and I am not very
> > good with C - so it is going to take few months...
>
> Maybe this is the main reason of your problems. I admit I don't document my
> code a lot, but I don't obfuscate it at all.
>
> Hi Benoit,

I hope you understood from the context that this obfuscate bit was meant as
joke...


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Benoit Minisini
On lundi 01 septembre 2008, Kari Laine wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Benoit Minisini <
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Also I would be
> > > prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used
> >
> > now
> >
> > > countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn
> > > stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscated code contest :-) before
> > > this day I know very little about compilers and interpreters and I am
> > > not very good with C - so it is going to take few months...
> >
> > Maybe this is the main reason of your problems. I admit I don't document
> > my code a lot, but I don't obfuscate it at all.
> >
> > Hi Benoit,
>
> I hope you understood from the context that this obfuscate bit was meant as
> joke...
>

Yes, don't worry. :-)

-- 
Benoit Minisini

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> Kari,
>>
>> I tried as well.
>>
>> Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source
>> document?
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Hi John,
>
>
> I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in
> pdftohtml to ignore some kind of protection and out it came. BUT there is no
> layout, no pictures only the text. So it is big job to turn it to a nice
> document. Anyway the screen capture pictures would probably be old anyway.
>
> I read the OpenContent license of the book and if I understood right it
> would make difficult to produce derivative work or wiki - quite impossible
> in fact.
>
> Maybe someone with leverage - Benoit - could contact John W Rittinghouse and
> ask.
>
> Fact is Gambas needs more documentation to lure users. Also I would be
> prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used now
> countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn
> stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscated code contest :-) before this day
> I know very little about compilers and interpreters and I am not very good
> with C - so it is going to take few months...
>
> And Windows version would be nice too :-)
>
>
> Best Regards
> Kari Laine
>

Kari,

I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the  
source to the original content. I will leave the  
http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left.

I'm still counting on you to get to the bottom of this.

John

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the
> source to the original content. I will leave the
> http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left.
>
> I'm still counting on you to get to the bottom of this.
>
> John
>

Hi,

I tried to search homepage or something like that for the author. Did not
find. I won't try actively any more. And anyway I am not the right person to
contact him - Benoit would be.

Best Regards
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[Gambas-user] new user

2008-09-01 Thread Szenográdi Norbert Péter
Hi all.

Im a new member on gambas-user-list.

I have some quession:
- How can I send a datas to other form..
- How can I see any -manual inserted- data in Tableview and/or
Gridview..


Sorry for my newbie quession.. :)
Im hope you can answer it :)

Sevoir from Hungary ;)


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 21:14:43 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Kari,
>
> I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the
> source to the original content. I will leave the
> http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left.
>
> I'm still counting on you to get to the bottom of this.
>
> John
Sorry...but what are you trying to do here?? ...you have an "allbasic-site" 
and want it to be a central site for "all" basic dialects. ...so go for 
it!! ...search for the author of the book and drop him a mail, but stop 
pushing other people into fire, which flames cook your meal!

Greetz
Stevie


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Am Montag, 1. September 2008 21:14:43 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> Kari,
>>
>> I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the
>> source to the original content. I will leave the
>> http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left.
>>
>> I'm still counting on you to get to the bottom of this.
>>
>> John
> Sorry...but what are you trying to do here?? ...you have an "allbasic-site"
> and want it to be a central site for "all" basic dialects. ...so go for
> it!! ...search for the author of the book and drop him a mail, but stop
> pushing other people into fire, which flames cook your meal!
>
> Greetz
> Stevie

I was willing to accommodate the request to save the efforts put into  
an open document that is getting stale by the day. If my contributions  
and kindness aren't needed or appreciated then I will remove the  
Gambas sub-domain and let the book die a slow death.

Sorry I even mentioned it.

John

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Fabien Bodard
so for all of you understand why we do not have any news about John R,
 i will give you the lost private mail content he send to me there is
two month :

--begin--

Fabien,
Thank you for remembering me and sending this.  I know I have been out of
touch and apologize.  Dealing with stage 3 pancreatic cancer so I hope you
understand.

jr

--end--

so now you can understand why he is not able to write something else

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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Arief Bayu Purwanto
On 9/2/08, Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --begin--
>
> Fabien,
> Thank you for remembering me and sending this.  I know I have been out of
> touch and apologize.  Dealing with stage 3 pancreatic cancer so I hope you
> understand.
>
> jr
>
> --end--
>
> so now you can understand why he is not able to write something else


Uh... I'm sorry to hear that...


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Henri Girard
I don't know if you know it but openoffice 3 has an import of acrobat which is 
not bad though in beta version
 



> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 03:55:53 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of 
> Gambas> > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:> > > Am Montag, 1. September 2008 
> 12:33:58 schrieb Kari Laine:> >> So did John give permission for the book to 
> go wiki?> >> How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with 
> commercial acrobat> >> ?> >>> >> Best Regards> >> Kari Laine> > If John would 
> give permission to use his book as basis for a wiki, he also> > could donate 
> his original script...both depends on the contracts between John> > and the 
> publishing company.> >> > Greetz> > Stevie> > Based on what I understand from 
> the license section of the PDF, the > book was made an open document with the 
> ability to expand on it. If I > read it wrong, please correct my error.> > 
> John> > 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 03:09:27 schrieb Arief Bayu Purwanto:
> On 9/2/08, Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --begin--
> >
> > Fabien,
> > Thank you for remembering me and sending this.  I know I have been out of
> > touch and apologize.  Dealing with stage 3 pancreatic cancer so I hope
> > you understand.
> >
> > jr
> >
> > --end--
> >
> > so now you can understand why he is not able to write something else
>
> Uh... I'm sorry to hear that...

:-((( 
Hope he makes it! 

Greetz
Stevie


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