[Draconet-users] Problem with regional settings influence
Hi, I had trouble when I deployed draco on a dedicated build machine. The regional settings were badly set, the short date format was dd-MMM- (eg 08-Oct-2003). SourceSafe could not understand them and the history was always empty. I figured this out thanks to the log file. Maybe the way dates are formatted for the vss command line should be forced to something Visual Sourcesafe will always understand (and no longer depend on the current culture) ? By the way, I recently discovered the hook notifier when I had a look at the code, it is very helpful to me, but why is it not documented, it is so much better than the email notifier ? thanks for this great tool. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
RE: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco.....
hi, i'm just a draco user and i often get this error, the tcp port draco is listening to seems not to be correctly released, you could try the following : - change the port draco is listening to (remoting) before restarting the service (works for me) - wait 1 minute before restarting the service for the port to be correctly released - remove the channel node in the config (if you're not using remoting) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of COOTE, Andrew Sent: vendredi 17 octobre 2003 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco. Hi there, Draco newbie here with problem no. 1. Multi-project solution in SS. Build server boots, Draco starts up, detects changes, rebuilds, and then after a few rebuilds, quietly goes to sleep... Here's part of the logfile up to when it stopped: 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Portal : Checking module for changes 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Check: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Check: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - HISTORY arguments: history "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -Vd"06/10/2003;17:27~06/10/2003;16:10" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE12.tmp 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Check: 4 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Portal : Detected 4 change(s) to module 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Portal : Entering 60 second sleep period 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Check again: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - HISTORY arguments: history "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -Vd"06/10/2003;17:29~06/10/2003;16:10" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE13.tmp 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Check again: 4 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Portal : Detected 0 additional modification(s) 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Portal : Building module 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - GET arguments: get "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -W 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:31:18 - DEVENV arguments: "E:\SOURCESAFE PROJECTS\APPLICATION PORTAL PROJECT\Source Code\Portal.sln" /build "Debug" /out C:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE26.tmp 08/10/2003 15:58:41 - Stopping Draco.NET 08/10/2003 17:00:05 - Starting Draco.NET I stopped the service, and it will not restart - gives me error - "Could not start the Draco.Net service on Local Computer. Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly." Here's the Event log output: Draco.NET failed to initialise. The following exception was thrown: System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingException: Remoting configuration failed with the exception System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel.StartListening(Object data) at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel.SetupChannel() at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel..ctor(IDictionary properties, IServerChannelSinkProvider sinkProvider) at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpChannel..ctor(IDictionary properties, IClientChannelSinkProvider clientSinkProvider, IServerChannelSinkProvider serverSinkProvider) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.InternalInvoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean isBinderDefault) at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture) at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceImpl(BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes) at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes) at System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingConfigHandler.CreateChannelFromConfigEntry(C hannelEntry entry) at System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingConfigHandler.ConfigureChannels(RemotingXmlC onfigFileData configData) at System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingConfigHandler.ConfigureRemoting(RemotingXmlC onfigFileData configData). at System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingConfigHandler.ConfigureRemoting(RemotingXmlC onfigFileData configData) at System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingConfiguration.Configure(String filename) at Chive.Draco.Draco
RE: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco.....
yep, I realized I have read your mail a bit too fast... as always (sigh)... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of COOTE, Andrew Sent: lundi 20 octobre 2003 17:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco. Hi Vincent, Many thanks for the reply. I think this would be a solution to a remoting problem, but my client works fine. I am just having problems with the build hanging. Thanks anyway, Andrew -Original Message- From: Vincent Labatut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 17:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco. hi, i'm just a draco user and i often get this error, the tcp port draco is listening to seems not to be correctly released, you could try the following : - change the port draco is listening to (remoting) before restarting the service (works for me) - wait 1 minute before restarting the service for the port to be correctly released - remove the channel node in the config (if you're not using remoting) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of COOTE, Andrew Sent: vendredi 17 octobre 2003 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Draconet-users] Shhh! Sleeping Draco. Hi there, Draco newbie here with problem no. 1. Multi-project solution in SS. Build server boots, Draco starts up, detects changes, rebuilds, and then after a few rebuilds, quietly goes to sleep... Here's part of the logfile up to when it stopped: 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Portal : Checking module for changes 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Check: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Check: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - HISTORY arguments: history "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -Vd"06/10/2003;17:27~06/10/2003;16:10" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE12.tmp 06/10/2003 17:27:18 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Check: 4 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Portal : Detected 4 change(s) to module 06/10/2003 17:28:00 - Portal : Entering 60 second sleep period 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Check again: 06/10/2003 16:10:00 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - HISTORY arguments: history "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -Vd"06/10/2003;17:29~06/10/2003;16:10" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE13.tmp 06/10/2003 17:29:00 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Check again: 4 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Portal : Detected 0 additional modification(s) 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Portal : Building module 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Detected path: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\win32 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - GET arguments: get "$/SourceSafe Projects/Application Portal Project/" -R -I-N -Y"CooteA" -W 06/10/2003 17:29:35 - Setting SSDIR environment variable to: \\A629uk06\WebTeam 06/10/2003 17:31:18 - DEVENV arguments: "E:\SOURCESAFE PROJECTS\APPLICATION PORTAL PROJECT\Source Code\Portal.sln" /build "Debug" /out C:\DOCUME~1\CooteA\LOCALS~1\Temp\tmpE26.tmp 08/10/2003 15:58:41 - Stopping Draco.NET 08/10/2003 17:00:05 - Starting Draco.NET I stopped the service, and it will not restart - gives me error - "Could not start the Draco.Net service on Local Computer. Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly." Here's the Event log output: Draco.NET failed to initialise. The following exception was thrown: System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingException: Remoting configuration failed with the exception System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel.StartListening(Object data) at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel.SetupChannel() at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpServerChannel..ctor(IDictionary properties, IServerChannelSinkProvider sinkProvider) at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpChannel..ctor(IDictionary properties, IClientChannelSinkProvider clientSinkProvider, IServerChannelSinkProvider serverSinkProvider) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.InternalInvoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean isBinderDefault) at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture) at System.RuntimeType
RE: [Draconet-users] Draco config : using hook notification ?
Title: Message i find that hooks are most useful, here is what i'm using at work : F:\Draco.NET\Output [EMAIL PROTECTED] Draco Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dev 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dev 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dev 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dev 4 Notes : Draco recognizes which users have made modifications since the last successful build, then computes who should receive an email according to the config hook rules.the user names should match the ones in your source repository (like VSS) for rules to apply correctly. notifysuccess (default is false) : the user will receive an email for every sucessful build (whether he/she participated in a development or not) notifyfailure (default is false) : same for failures notifyhooksuccess (default is true) : the user will receive an email for each successful build in which he is involved (after a modification from his/her part) notifyhookfailure (default is true) : same for failures. should always be true in my opinion. no duplicate mails are sent if multiple rules apply. in my example, i'm the Draco Admin and I want to receive a mail for every single build, whether successful or not. the Projet Manager (my boss), only wants to be aware of failures + builds that are triggered by his own work. Developpers receive mails for each build that are partly triggered by their modifications. Developper 3 didn't want to be bothered with successful builds, this was quickly done in the config and kept his morale at the highest ;) i found all that looking at the code and the xsd, hope this helps, vincent -Original M essage-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Nick RobinsonSent: samedi 22 novembre 2003 11:24To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Draconet-users] Draco config : using hook notification ? I havent used that. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 20 November 2003 22:41To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Draconet-users] Draco config : using hook notification ? Is there anyone out there using the hook notification method that would like to share part of their draco.exe.config? I am no XML expert, so it is a bit difficult to guess at a good template to start with for this kind of notification. Thanks. - Jerry
RE: [Draconet-users] Building a web project under Draco.NET
i don't have this problem because i'm not using devenv.com to compile my projects, but the NAnt solution task, it allows a manual mapping between web projects URLs and directories. Those directories are relative to my NAnt build script. i am not aware of a way to force devenv not to check for the projects URLs. what u can do is use NAnt, or make Draco build from a fixed directory and not a temporary one (see the previous mails for this, it has recently been debated). hope it helps, vincent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Robinson Sent: jeudi 11 décembre 2003 15:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Draconet-users] Building a web project under Draco.NET Hi, The system I am working on involves a web solution. We set Draco up a good 10 months ago and had everything working. Unfortunately the build server died recently. Now we have set up the new Draco server, we cannot get a successful build. We have created a Virtual Directory underneath IIS. We have setup the web directory in Source Safe to always GET to this Virtual Directory. The problem is the solution never locates its dependancies, because all of the projects the web solution uses end up being built in the depths of the profile + temp directory structure. We feel there is something we have overlooked - we didnt document each step when we originally got the build working. Has anybody else had a similar problem, and can you tell us what we may have missed out in setting up the server? Thanks, nick robinson site : http://www.fromconcept.co.uk weblog : http://www.fromconcept.co.uk/weblog.aspx --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
[Draconet-users] request : scan filters
hi, Any single modification in the source control system is a sufficient condition to launch a build. But sometimes you don't want to launch a build when an image of a web site is updated. Sometimes visual studio messes up visual sourcesafe by adding and removing a temporary file. I would like to be able to specify a wildcard filter (or regexp or whatever) in order to exclude certain files from being watched or taken into account. File type filters would suffice at first, but why not add the possibility to exclude entire directories from being watched (just askin) ? I know it could have side effects on the builds, because it is still possible that such an update would make the build fail... but : - by default you don't have to use those filters - you can still address that with nightly builds --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
[Draconet-users] new functionalities
Hi, I just had a look at the Draco.NET notes for the recent release of 1.5 beta 3 I wanted to know about the "ignore files functionality", what does it do ? (or is it documented anywhere ?) Release Name: 1.5-beta-3 Notes: - Implementation of stop build functionality - Implementation of list builds functionality - Implementation of ignore files functionality - Build output includes details of all changes since the last successful build (previously was since last build regardless of success of failure) - Supports configurable "quietperiod" - CVS handling of branches improved - CVS repositories can be passed global options - VSS parser now supports "pinned" action - Newlines are preserved in commit messages - Dates are formatted in a human readable format - NULL characters in build output no longer causes problems - Samples config updated for Subversion - CVS bug fixes - VSS bug fixes - FIX: VSS SSDIR environment variable set - FIX: VSS improved date locale handling - Subversion bug fixes - Hook notifier bug fixes - Command line interface (dracocli) bug fixes --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
RE: [Draconet-users] new functionalities
thanks for this info, it seems to be close to what i requested, but still no real files and directories exclusion. i've seen other people requesting for excluding files and/or directories during changes detection. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=811657&group_id=668 80&atid=516088 i think we are very close to that point and i've studied this stuff a bit, a very naturl and straightforward way to do it would be to add two new attributes : ... ... The above example excludes : - everything below dir1/bin - any dll in the whole tree - all jpg, gif, png and jpeg files under the images directory In order to make developpement simple (while keeping the feature powerful) we can use some framework Regex for filtering files and directories. For files, the match should be perfect (whole string). For directories, the match simply needs to start at the first character (for readability and to avoid headaches). i hope you find this feature useful, can you tell me if someone will implement it ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Griffiths Sent: mardi 10 fevrier 2004 11:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Draconet-users] new functionalities Hi I just dug out Brian's original notes on the feature: -- Here is a patch that adds an ignore modifications feature to draco. The modifications to ignore are specified using the build section in the config file. Currently, the only two change attributes that can be used to specify the change are the user or comment. If a modification is ignored, an entry is written to the log. ... ... Multiple ignore elements are OR'ed together while multiple attributes are AND'ed together. This feature allows our auto build process to check items in and label the tree without triggering a recursive build. -- It sounds similar to the scan filter mechanism you requested. Let me know how you get on with it, because I am going to be pushing the documentation over the next couple of weeks. Mark > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Vincent Labatut > Sent: 10 February 2004 09:32 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Draconet-users] new functionalities > > Hi, > > I just had a look at the Draco.NET notes for the recent > release of 1.5 beta > 3 > > I wanted to know about the "ignore files functionality", what > does it do ? > (or is it documented anywhere ?) > > > > > > Release Name: 1.5-beta-3 > > Notes: > - Implementation of stop build functionality > - Implementation of list builds functionality > - Implementation of ignore files functionality > - Build output includes details of all changes since the last > successful build > (previously was since last build regardless of success of failure) > - Supports configurable "quietperiod" > - CVS handling of branches improved > - CVS repositories can be passed global options > - VSS parser now supports "pinned" action > - Newlines are preserved in commit messages > - Dates are formatted in a human readable format > - NULL characters in build output no longer causes problems > - Samples config updated for Subversion > > - CVS bug fixes > - VSS bug fixes > - FIX: VSS SSDIR environment variable set > - FIX: VSS improved date locale handling > - Subversion bug fixes > - Hook notifier bug fixes > - Command line interface (dracocli) bug fixes > > > > --- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere > Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the > breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > ___ > Draconet-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users > --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
[Draconet-users] VS.NET causes useless builds
hi, We're using Visual Studio .NET 2003 and it sometimes adds and removes useless files in VSS, files named like "~sak33dc457001c4a79e.tmp", maybe a way of checking sourcesafe availability. The draco VSS parser takes thoses changes into consideration and it launches useless builds. How can I avoid this ? Some sort of "extension" filter in "ignorechanges" could solve my problem. Any help appreciated, Vincent -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from your system. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
[Draconet-users] custom statuses
Hi (again), When Draco's running, it indicates when it is "Checking", "CheckingOut", "Sleeping" etc. I would like to be able to indicate a sub status for the "Building" phase (it makes sense because it is the only phase that relies entirely on our own NAnt scripts). I see this ability only available for NAnt at the moment (ie not for devenv), because it would be easy to create a dedicated NAnt task like this : http://mybuildserver:8086/Draco"; substatus="Labeling" /> The NAnt task can be compiled and ditributed easily in one DLL. The Draco service could make this information available via remoting as it does already today, and the web site and gui client could display it. What do think of this ? thanks for your answers, Vincent -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from your system. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Draconet-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/draconet-users
