Django Sockets Proposal

2021-09-18 Thread Jet Ezra
What if in django, we have a uniform way of handling server-side web 
sockets, built-in, not relying on external libraries?
Django Channels would be a deal, but they are broad and endup making us 
forget about the sockets alone, what-if? we have a way of emitting those 
events which can be responded to by the front-end??  

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Idea

2021-09-18 Thread Jet Ezra
I know this may not be necessary at the moment because we are comfortable 
depending on front-end frameworks, but I have my two ideas here:

1. what if django alone without any framework can be used to design 
progressive web apps, with routers that do not reload the page, we 
currently have one of the best routing but what if they support SPAs this 
time?

2. what if we could instead of Javascript in the templates, we write 
python, case in example is forexample how we write C# in .NET withing our 
templates not writing JavaScript. Currently Django is requiring its 
developer to again go ahead and learn JS too, what if we remove that??

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More boilerplate, less confusion, more harmony.

2021-09-18 Thread Jet Ezra
Hello, if this was already discussed before, let me know otherwise, I have 
experienced a problem formally faced with other languages where everyone 
has their own of naming their application.

By default creating a django creates a boilerplate that includes apps.py, 
admin.py, models.py, views.py and the rest but leaving out forms.py, 
signals.py, urls.py and modules.py but most developers endup creating these 
files for their specific uses.
The problem comes in only one instance where someone names these 
differently from the convetional way, and it becomes hard to traceback 
their source code.

I suggest they be added with some little docstring for begginers to know 
what can be done in these files just like in the main urls.py of the 
project.

thank you.

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Re: Django Sockets Proposal

2021-09-20 Thread Jet Ezra
Handle events, handle requests, update the DOM all with python, having this
in place will enable us to even write SPAs easily
If we can achieve those three there, then we would be starting to see JS
out of python.

It's quit absurd to find you write your project with django and sometimes
django restframework, but github shows you that 0.2 % python was used and
75% JS was used, and you wonder whether its JS you wrote or python!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 7:38 PM PINEDO HUANSI LUCERO <
luceropin...@egyg.edu.pe> wrote:

> if you're right, but what would we do?
>
>
> El sáb, 18 sept 2021 a las 17:12, Jet Ezra ()
> escribió:
>
>> What if in django, we have a uniform way of handling server-side web
>> sockets, built-in, not relying on external libraries?
>> Django Channels would be a deal, but they are broad and endup making us
>> forget about the sockets alone, what-if? we have a way of emitting those
>> events which can be responded to by the front-end??
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Re: Idea

2021-10-21 Thread Jet Ezra
Well, this looks like a cool attempt but still lacking the python part. I
would like to update the DOM just with Python not anything like Javascript.
>From what I have read from the links above, I have realised that we are
writing HTML that has already been covered up with JS, but in my issue, we
are trying to run independent of JS just like we see in C# where one writes
C# instead of JS in .NET



On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:16 PM 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers
(Contributions to Django itself)  wrote:

> Check out htmx as a way to avoid needing JavaScript in your Django
> applications: https://htmx.org/
>
> Example app: https://github.com/adamchainz/django-htmx
>
> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 00:00, Jet Ezra  wrote:
>
>> I know this may not be necessary at the moment because we are comfortable
>> depending on front-end frameworks, but I have my two ideas here:
>>
>> 1. what if django alone without any framework can be used to design
>> progressive web apps, with routers that do not reload the page, we
>> currently have one of the best routing but what if they support SPAs this
>> time?
>>
>> 2. what if we could instead of Javascript in the templates, we write
>> python, case in example is forexample how we write C# in .NET withing our
>> templates not writing JavaScript. Currently Django is requiring its
>> developer to again go ahead and learn JS too, what if we remove that??
>>
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Is_ajax replacement??

2022-02-23 Thread Jet Ezra
Hello team?

So how are we checking for ajax-based in django 4+ if is_ajax() was
deprecated??

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Re: Is_ajax replacement??

2022-03-07 Thread Jet Ezra
Thanks, I think I will always add small module when needed


On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 11:33:30 AM UTC+3 Adam Johnson wrote:

> The feature was deprecated in Django 3.1 - the release note covers 
> alternatives: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/releases/3.1/#id2
>
> If you didn't detect this until Django 4.0 I would recommend reading the 
> documentation on deprecation warnings so you can discover deprecations when 
> they happen: 
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.0/howto/upgrade-version/#resolving-deprecation-warnings
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:49 AM Jet Ezra  wrote:
>
>> Hello team?
>>
>> So how are we checking for ajax-based in django 4+ if is_ajax() was 
>> deprecated??
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