Re: Invitation to participate in a survey about Django

2021-03-02 Thread 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)
I receive an average of one academic survey a week. I think it's a terrible
shame that computer science academia has descended to the same level as the
worst spammers, scraping emails and sending them unsolicited "research"
emails, without a mote of personal thought/engagement.

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 01:12, Tom Forbes  wrote:

> I receive a few of these kinds of emails privately (I’m assuming they
> scrape my email from git history). On one hand I think it might be
> appropriate to post something like this to the developers mailing list if
> it was specifically targeted to Django, and it’s definitely good to help
> with research.
>
> On the other hand, like many of the other emails I receive this looks to
> be an impersonal and auto-generated one (the bold really doesn’t help) with
> a completely vague call to action: your requirement to “understand how
> technical debt is managed” means nothing to me and doesn’t entice me to
> spend time answering 18+ questions on a Google form for you.
>
> The “what’s in it for me” section is also completely meaningless - how
> will answering this help me maintain the quality of Django? So to me this
> is basically spam and I don’t think it’s appropriate to post here. I’m
> replying publicly in case anyone else has any opinions on if this
> constitutes as (academic) spam or not.
>
> In the hopes of being constructive I’d suggest perhaps a paragraph
> explaining who you are, what the actual concrete work is that you are
> doing, how our contributions can help further that and the outcomes you
> want to achieve. Because right now you could replace startlingly few words
> to turn this into an email about people’s thoughts on the new Pepsi flavor.
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 23:17, Tan, J.  wrote:
>
>> Dear Django contributor,
>>
>> We are doing research on understanding how developers manage a special
>> kind of Technical Debt in *Python.*
>>
>> We kindly ask 15-20 minutes of your time to fill out our survey. To help
>> you decide whether to fill it in, we clarify two points.
>>
>> “Why should I answer this survey?”
>>
>> Your participation is essential for us to correctly understand how
>> developers manage Technical Debt.
>>
>> “What is in it for me?”
>>
>> Your valuable contributions to *Django* are part of the information we
>> analyzed for this study. Thus, if you help us further by answering
>> this survey, there are two immediate benefits:
>>
>>- you help to improve the efficiency of maintaining the quality of
>>*Django*.
>>- the results will be used to propose recommendations to manage
>>technical debt and create tool support.
>>
>> Here is the link to the survey
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Thank you for your time and attention.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Jie Tan, Daniel Feitosa and Paris Avgeriou
>>
>> Software Engineering and Architecture group 
>> Faculty of Science and Engineering
>> University of Groningen, the Netherlands
>>
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Re: The blacklist / master issue

2021-03-02 Thread Markus Holtermann
Brief update on this.

The overall tracking pull request ist 
https://github.com/django/django/pull/14048/

* On 2021-03-03 at UTC morning, well migrate django/code.djangoproject.com and 
django/djangoproject.com

* Likely on 2021-03-09 we'll migrate django/django

Cheers,

Markus

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, at 7:31 PM, Markus Holtermann wrote:
> Thanks for the input, Matthias. That's useful to know. I'll make sure 
> the change is announced.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Markus
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Matthias Kestenholz wrote:
> > Yes, please.
> > 
> > As a third party app developer I'll have to update a few GitHub 
> > workflows and tox configurations (since I'm running testsuites against 
> > the main branch too). It may be useful to announce this change on as 
> > many channels as possible (mailing lists, the forum, as a news entry on 
> > the Django website). Just an idea, this shouldn't be a blocker for 
> > moving forward with this.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Matthias
> > 
> > 
> > On 24/02/2021 00:12, 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers (Contributions 
> > to Django itself) wrote:
> > > Yes, let's do it. I did it to my open source projects a couple weeks ago 
> > > and everything has been smooth since. We'll need some find/replace for 
> > > links in the main repo, on djangoproject.com , 
> > > and I imagine some other places.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 22:15, Kenneth  > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I agree. We should go ahead and do the switch
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:57 AM Markus Holtermann
> > > mailto:i...@markusholtermann.eu>> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > Reviving an old topic. GitHub has by now tooling in place to
> > > rename branches and keep open PRs in sync. In fact, if I were to
> > > change the `master` branch to `main`, GitHub tells me this:
> > > 
> > > Renaming this branch:
> > > * Will update 158 pull requests targeting this branch across 112
> > > repositories.
> > > * Will update 1 branch protection rule that explicitly targets
> > > master.
> > > * Will not update your members' local environments.
> > > 
> > > I'd suggest to go through with this change and make the
> > > necessary changes to the CI / website.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Markus
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Mark Bailey wrote:
> > >  > +1 on a good decision to make this change.
> > >  >
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