Re: help For GSoC Proposal (Improve Admin Filters)

2020-02-24 Thread Bryan Andia Llerena 
Hello,
Im interested in participate too, but I don't have much experience. Can you
tell me more about what do you want to do please?

Thank you

El dom., 23 feb. 2020 6:46 a. m., keshav kumar 
escribió:

> Hello,
> I want to participate in GSoC with Django. And I want to work on 'Improve
> Admin Filters' Project.
> Here I am planning to work on issues related with filters which are not
> taken by anyone . Is this good approach ?
> Is there something more that would be helpful or needed which I can add as
> well , please mention it.
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Re: help For GSoC Proposal (Improve Admin Filters)

2020-02-24 Thread Adam Johnson 
Hi both,

Have you seen:

* The wiki page: https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SummerOfCode2020
* Recent responses on the mailing list on GSoc (search it) e.g.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-core-mentorship/_GO8rLu881k/V6mYQKmMCAAJ

Keshav: you made a great first PR. Searching for other issues around the
admin would be a good approach. If you haven't developed your own site
using the Django admin, that would also be worth it. You could start with
the official tutorial and expand from there. Also worth investigating the
popular third party admin packages, some of which have filter extensions:
https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/admin-interface/

Thanks,

Adam

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 11:53, Bryan Andia Llerena <
bryanandialler...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> Im interested in participate too, but I don't have much experience. Can
> you tell me more about what do you want to do please?
>
> Thank you
>
> El dom., 23 feb. 2020 6:46 a. m., keshav kumar 
> escribió:
>
>> Hello,
>> I want to participate in GSoC with Django. And I want to work on 'Improve
>> Admin Filters' Project.
>> Here I am planning to work on issues related with filters which are not
>> taken by anyone . Is this good approach ?
>> Is there something more that would be helpful or needed which I can add
>> as well , please mention it.
>>
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Re: help For GSoC Proposal (Improve Admin Filters)

2020-02-24 Thread Sanskar Jaiswal 
I too am interested in GSoC. I made 2 PRs around 3 days ago, which are
still being reviewed. I am still trying to work on more PRs, but I am
having a hard time choosing a component, as I feel like my proposal should
be centered around the component I am most familiar with. Should I post my
concerns on the mentorship channel on Django forum?

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 21:14, Adam Johnson  wrote:

> Hi both,
>
> Have you seen:
>
> * The wiki page: https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SummerOfCode2020
> * Recent responses on the mailing list on GSoc (search it) e.g.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-core-mentorship/_GO8rLu881k/V6mYQKmMCAAJ
>
> Keshav: you made a great first PR. Searching for other issues around the
> admin would be a good approach. If you haven't developed your own site
> using the Django admin, that would also be worth it. You could start with
> the official tutorial and expand from there. Also worth investigating the
> popular third party admin packages, some of which have filter extensions:
> https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/admin-interface/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 11:53, Bryan Andia Llerena <
> bryanandialler...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Im interested in participate too, but I don't have much experience. Can
>> you tell me more about what do you want to do please?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> El dom., 23 feb. 2020 6:46 a. m., keshav kumar 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I want to participate in GSoC with Django. And I want to work on
>>> 'Improve Admin Filters' Project.
>>> Here I am planning to work on issues related with filters which are not
>>> taken by anyone . Is this good approach ?
>>> Is there something more that would be helpful or needed which I can add
>>> as well , please mention it.
>>>
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Re: Property-based "fuzzy" testing (Hypothesis) in Django

2020-02-24 Thread Elena Williams 
Heya Adam,

Amazing! Thank you! You're correct that it's slower.

I'd completely forgotten about FactoryBoy! though used it a fair bit a few
years ago. Interesting to note that the original ruby project renamed
itself to FactoryBot
 ("offensive
or problematic" indeed).

The conversation continued about Factory* libraries, and Zac agrees that
these are useful, but has reservations that examples generated by them are
fewer, and more limited in range, eg omitting empty string, control
characters -- which is important for "real" bug finding, this is usualy bug
gold. He also reckons that they have weaker support for reproducing
failures.

Long and the short is possibly that FactoryBoy could be improved and maybe
there might be cases for Django projects to use Hypothesis too :) Whatever
happens I'm going to keep plugging away at hypothesis examples, and maybe
making the official docs, er, more penetrable. Personally I'm doing
something nuts, for which FactoryBoy is not suitable, so this makes sense
in my case.

It's great to hear about the OSS-Fuzz project. I've passed the details
along. It's always nice to cross-polinate and delighted Zac'll be packing
for PyCon with this background under his belt. It seems likely more
conversation will be happening there.

Thank you so much again,
---
Elena Williams
Github: elena 


On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 20:22, Adam Johnson  wrote:

> Hi Elena,
>
> I like fuzz testing and how Hypothesis does it. I have used it on a couple
> of projects and it always found bugs. In fact it was my first Pycon that I
> sat with David and sprinted on adding it to a project :)
>
> That said I've always found it quite a leap from straightforward tests,
> being slower and non-deterministic. There is a hard balance to make writing
> fuzz tests versus writing individual test cases to ensure edge cases keep
> being covered. And also we generally want tests to be less complex than the
> code they are testing - short functions with several parameters can easily
> need many lines of hypothesis code to set up accurate testing.
>
> Personally I tend to settle on using a little bit of fuzzing with random
> data from factory boy, but adding control to the random seed used in
> testing using pytest-randomly. I gave this approach a bit of a write up
> when I started using it in 2014:
> https://adamj.eu/tech/2014/09/03/factory-boy-fun/ .
>
> As for Django's test sutie: I don't believe there is any fuzz testing
> there. But it is being tested separately instead with Google's OSS-Fuzz
> project: https://github.com/google/oss-fuzz/tree/master/projects/django .
> This was set up by Guido Vranken who announced it in this mailing list
> thread:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-developers/-WweB07YiVQ .
> Apparently it has caught a few bugs since implementation, and there's scope
> to expand it quite a lot:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/PMtvmMlsjyw/_rOj_LzvCQAJ
> . I *think* if we were to increase our fuzz testing, we'd probably want to
> concentrate efforts there. Google also offer $ rewards to critical projects
> like Django for reaching certain levels of coverage, which is nice of them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
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