A quick primer on how to move feature branches to the new Git repository

[Alex Ogier]

I have posted instructions on how to easily and safely rebase feature
branches from an old fork of Django's SVN mirror onto Django's official git
repository. I hope this helps. Let me know if you need help or the
instructions are unclear or incorrect.

https://gist.github.com/2549844

Best,
Alex Ogier

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Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Alec Taylor]

Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.

Email: alectayl...@gmail.com

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  wrote:
> Great info Russ, thanks!
>
> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>
> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>
> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
> Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use Django
> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
> worth the investment.
> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>
>
> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
> to navigate.
>
> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
> would be an ideal process for this?
>
> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>
> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>
> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a complete
> overhaul in one go?
>
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
>
> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>
> Hi Dana
>
>
> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>
> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>
> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
> produce) something that is suitable.
>
>
> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
> it.
>
> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if they
> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
> a bit more "sexy".
> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to navigate,
> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
> modifications to headers and color choices.
> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
> development, lots of built in security, etc...
> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>
> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
> on subversion?
>
> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>
> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>
>
> In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is generated
> via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
> organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't mean
> changing the documentation, but more how other pages and sections are laid
> out.
>
>
> Correct - the documentation is the contents of the /docs directory, as
> rendered by Sphinx. This means that the style of any individual page (e.g.,
> fonts for headings, etc) is part of the Sphinx stylesheet, but the gross
> structure is determined by the file layout in the /docs directory (i.e., one
> page per file).
>
> There's really two tasks contained in what you have described here:
>
> 1) Restyling the docs to make them easier to read
>
> 2) Reorganizing the docs to make information easier to find.
>
> 1) is definitely the remit of this design project. (2) is a much bigger
> project. Unless you're going to keep it simple - e.g., a proposing better
> home page layout for the docs - it may be better to leave the structure of
> the docs as a separate issue.
>
> I assume I'd also need to work on the code.djangoproject.org
> (http://code.djangoproject.org) site as well? Are there other things that
> would need to change? I'

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Alec Taylor]

Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png

Thoughts?

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>
> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  wrote:
>> Great info Russ, thanks!
>>
>> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
>> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>>
>> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>>
>> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
>> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
>> Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
>> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
>> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
>> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
>> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
>> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use Django
>> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
>> worth the investment.
>> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
>> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>>
>>
>> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
>> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
>> to navigate.
>>
>> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
>> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
>> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
>> would be an ideal process for this?
>>
>> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
>> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>>
>> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>>
>> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a complete
>> overhaul in one go?
>>
>> --
>> Dana Woodman
>> d...@danawoodman.com
>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>
>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dana
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>
>> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
>> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>>
>> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
>> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
>> produce) something that is suitable.
>>
>>
>> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
>> it.
>>
>> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if they
>> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
>> a bit more "sexy".
>> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to navigate,
>> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
>> modifications to headers and color choices.
>> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
>> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
>> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
>> development, lots of built in security, etc...
>> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>>
>> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
>> on subversion?
>>
>> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
>> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>>
>> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
>> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>>
>>
>> In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is generated
>> via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
>> organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't mean
>> changing the documentation, but more how other pages and sections are laid
>> out.
>>
>>
>> Correct - the documentation is the contents of the /docs directory, as
>> rendered by Sphinx. This means that the style of any individual page (e.g.,
>> fonts for headings, etc) is part of the Sphinx stylesheet, but the gross
>> structure is determined by the file layout in the /docs directory (i.e., one
>> page per file).
>>
>> There's really two tasks contained in what you have described here:
>>
>> 1) Restyling the docs to make them easier to read
>>
>> 2) Reorganizing the docs to make information easier to find.
>>
>> 1) is definitely the remit of this design project. (2) is a much bigger
>> project. Unless you're going to keep it simple - e.g., a proposing better
>> home page layout for the docs 

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Dana Woodman]

This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o

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d...@danawoodman.com (mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)
http://www.danawoodman.com


On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:

> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  (mailto:alec.tayl...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
> > up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
> > 
> > Email: alectayl...@gmail.com (mailto:alectayl...@gmail.com)
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  > (mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)> wrote:
> > > Great info Russ, thanks!
> > > 
> > > My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
> > > including the home page and documentation overview pages.
> > > 
> > > For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
> > > 
> > > -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers 
> > > the
> > > "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, 
> > > Twitter
> > > Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
> > > Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
> > > "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
> > > question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
> > > of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
> > > addons.mozilla.org (http://addons.mozilla.org), etc... This alone would 
> > > get people excited to use Django
> > > and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and 
> > > is
> > > worth the investment.
> > > A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
> > > Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
> > > would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and 
> > > easy
> > > to navigate.
> > > 
> > > Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
> > > community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
> > > the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, 
> > > what
> > > would be an ideal process for this?
> > > 
> > > How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
> > > djangoproject.org (http://djangoproject.org), Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
> > > 
> > > I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
> > > 
> > > Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a 
> > > complete
> > > overhaul in one go?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Dana Woodman
> > > d...@danawoodman.com (mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)
> > > http://www.danawoodman.com
> > > 
> > > On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Dana
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
> > > 
> > > Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
> > > this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
> > > 
> > > I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking 
> > > for
> > > something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
> > > produce) something that is suitable.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if 
> > > they
> > > want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making 
> > > Django
> > > a bit more "sexy".
> > > 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to 
> > > navigate,
> > > especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
> > > modifications to headers and color choices.
> > > 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
> > > regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
> > > community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
> > > development, lots of built in security, etc...
> > > 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
> > > 
> > > Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to 
> > > work
> > > on subversion?
> > > 
> > > As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on 
> > > GitHub.
> > > However, djangoproject.com (http://djangoproject.com) has been on GitHub 
> > > for a while:
> > > 
> > > https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
> > > If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is 
> > > generated
> > > via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
> > > organization/copy changes or would it just be a desig

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Giovanni Collazo]

I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.

Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh

--
@gcollazo
gcoll...@24veces.com

On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
>
> This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
>
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
>
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
>
> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  
> wrote:
>
> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>
> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  
> wrote:
>
> Great info Russ, thanks!
>
> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>
> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>
> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
> Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use 
> Django
> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
> worth the investment.
> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>
>
> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
> to navigate.
>
> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
> would be an ideal process for this?
>
> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>
> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>
> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a 
> complete
> overhaul in one go?
>
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
>
> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>
> Hi Dana
>
>
> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>
> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>
> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
> produce) something that is suitable.
>
>
> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
> it.
>
> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if 
> they
> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
> a bit more "sexy".
> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to 
> navigate,
> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
> modifications to headers and color choices.
> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
> development, lots of built in security, etc...
> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>
> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
> on subversion?
>
> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>
> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>
>
> In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is generated
> via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
> organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't mean
> changing the documentation, but more how other pages and sections are laid
> out.
>
>
> Correct - the documentation is the contents of the /docs directory, as
> rendered by Sphinx. This means that the style of any individual page (e.g.,
> fonts for headings, etc) is part of the Sphinx stylesheet, but the gross
> structure is determined by the file layout in the /docs directory (i.e., 
> one
> page per file).
>
> There's really two tasks contained in what you have d

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Juan Pablo Martínez]

http://imgur.com/a/186fh
nice :)

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Giovanni Collazo wrote:

> I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.
>
> Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh
>
> --
> @gcollazo
> gcoll...@24veces.com
>
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>
>> This is my take: 
>> http://cl.ly/**0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
>>
>> --
>> Dana Woodman
>> d...@danawoodman.com
>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>
>> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
>> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>>
>> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Great info Russ, thanks!
>>
>> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
>> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>>
>> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>>
>> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers
>> the
>> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example,
>> Twitter
>> Bootstraps's home page: 
>> http://cl.ly/**3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S
>> )
>> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
>> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
>> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
>> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
>> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use
>> Django
>> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and
>> is
>> worth the investment.
>> A graphical site navigation area, eg: 
>> http://cl.ly/**3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K-
>> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>>
>>
>> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org
>> /) homepage
>> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and
>> easy
>> to navigate.
>>
>> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
>> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
>> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are,
>> what
>> would be an ideal process for this?
>>
>> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
>> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>>
>> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>>
>> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a
>> complete
>> overhaul in one go?
>>
>> --
>> Dana Woodman
>> d...@danawoodman.com
>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>
>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dana
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>
>> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
>> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>>
>> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking
>> for
>> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
>> produce) something that is suitable.
>>
>>
>> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
>> it.
>>
>> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if
>> they
>> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making
>> Django
>> a bit more "sexy".
>> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to
>> navigate,
>> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
>> modifications to headers and color choices.
>> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
>> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
>> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
>> development, lots of built in security, etc...
>> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>>
>> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to
>> work
>> on subversion?
>>
>> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on
>> GitHub.
>> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>>
>> https://github.com/django/**djangoproject.com
>> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>>
>>
>> In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is
>> generated
>> via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
>> organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't
>> mean
>> changing the documentation, but more how

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Adnane Belmadiaf]

Hi all,

I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal
http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png

Best,
Adnane Belmadiaf

2012/4/29 Dana Woodman 

> This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
>
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
>
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
>
> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>
> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman 
> wrote:
>
> Great info Russ, thanks!
>
> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>
> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>
> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
> Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use
> Django
> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
> worth the investment.
> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>
>
> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
> to navigate.
>
> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
> would be an ideal process for this?
>
> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>
> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>
> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a
> complete
> overhaul in one go?
>
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
>
> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>
> Hi Dana
>
>
> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>
> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>
> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
> produce) something that is suitable.
>
>
> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
> it.
>
> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if
> they
> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
> a bit more "sexy".
> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to
> navigate,
> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
> modifications to headers and color choices.
> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
> development, lots of built in security, etc...
> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>
> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
> on subversion?
>
> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>
> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>
>
> In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is generated
> via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
> organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't mean
> changing the documentation, but more how other pages and sections are laid
> out.
>
>
> Correct - the documentation is the contents of the /docs directory, as
> rendered by Sphinx. This means that the style of any individual page (e.g.,
> fonts for headings, etc) is part of the Sphinx stylesheet, but the gross
> structure is determined by the file layout in the /docs directory (i.e.,
> one
> page per file).
>
> There's really two tasks contained in what you have described here:
>
> 1) Restyling the docs to make them easier to

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Dana Woodman]

Jeez, looks like I started a tsunami... 

On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Adnane Belmadiaf  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal 
> http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png
> 
> Best,
> Adnane Belmadiaf
> 
> 2012/4/29 Dana Woodman 
> This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
> 
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
> 
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  wrote:
>>> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
>>> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>>> 
>>> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  wrote:
 Great info Russ, thanks!
 
 My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
 including the home page and documentation overview pages.
 
 For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
 
 -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
 "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
 Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
 Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
 "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
 question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
 of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
 addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use 
 Django
 and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
 worth the investment.
 A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
 Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
 
 
 Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
 would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
 to navigate.
 
 Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
 community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
 the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
 would be an ideal process for this?
 
 How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
 djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
 
 I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
 
 Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a 
 complete
 overhaul in one go?
 
 --
 Dana Woodman
 d...@danawoodman.com
 http://www.danawoodman.com
 
 On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
 
 Hi Dana
 
 
 On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
 
 Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
 this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
 
 I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
 something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
 produce) something that is suitable.
 
 
 In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
 it.
 
 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if 
 they
 want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
 a bit more "sexy".
 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to 
 navigate,
 especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
 modifications to headers and color choices.
 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
 regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
 community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
 development, lots of built in security, etc...
 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
 
 Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
 on subversion?
 
 As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
 However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
 
 https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
 If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
 
 
 In regards to organization of the documentation, I assume that is generated
 via the docs within Django, correct? Would I have freedom to do content
 organization/copy changes or would it just be a design change? I don't mean
 changing the documentation, but more how other pages and sections are laid
 out.
 
 
>

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Buddy Lindsey, Jr.]

I see all this stuff about video in the redesigns. Are there some videos 
on the site that I missed or is it wishful thinking?



Dana Woodman 
April 29, 2012 2:42 PM
Jeez, looks like I started a tsunami...

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Hi all,

I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal 
http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png


Best,
Adnane Belmadiaf




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Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png

Thoughts?

Alec Taylor 
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Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Meir Kriheli]

DjangoCon videos ?
http://pyvideo.org/
On 29/04/2012 22:56, "Buddy Lindsey, Jr."  wrote:

> I see all this stuff about video in the redesigns. Are there some videos
> on the site that I missed or is it wishful thinking?
>
>   Dana Woodman 
>  April 29, 2012 2:42 PM
> Jeez, looks like I started a tsunami...
>
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> Hi all,
>
> I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal
> http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png
>
> Best,
> Adnane Belmadiaf
>
>
>
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>
> Thoughts?
>
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>  April 29, 2012 10:34 AM
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Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[rikuthero...@gmail.com]

The one that Giovanni did is really nice, I like it!

2012/4/29 Juan Pablo Martínez 

> http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> nice :)
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Giovanni Collazo wrote:
>
>> I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.
>>
>> Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh
>>
>> --
>> @gcollazo
>> gcoll...@24veces.com
>>
>> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my take: 
>>> http://cl.ly/**0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dana Woodman
>>> d...@danawoodman.com
>>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
>>> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>>>
>>> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great info Russ, thanks!
>>>
>>> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
>>> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>>>
>>> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>>>
>>> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers
>>> the
>>> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example,
>>> Twitter
>>> Bootstraps's home page: 
>>> http://cl.ly/**3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S
>>> )
>>> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
>>> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
>>> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger
>>> users
>>> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
>>> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use
>>> Django
>>> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and
>>> is
>>> worth the investment.
>>> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/**
>>> 3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K  -
>>> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org
>>> /) homepage
>>> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and
>>> easy
>>> to navigate.
>>>
>>> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
>>> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
>>> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are,
>>> what
>>> would be an ideal process for this?
>>>
>>> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
>>> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>>>
>>> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>>>
>>> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a
>>> complete
>>> overhaul in one go?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dana Woodman
>>> d...@danawoodman.com
>>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dana
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>>
>>> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together
>>> when
>>> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>>>
>>> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking
>>> for
>>> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
>>> produce) something that is suitable.
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
>>> it.
>>>
>>> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if
>>> they
>>> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making
>>> Django
>>> a bit more "sexy".
>>> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to
>>> navigate,
>>> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by
>>> some
>>> modifications to headers and color choices.
>>> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
>>> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
>>> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
>>> development, lots of built in security, etc...
>>> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>>>
>>> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to
>>> work
>>> on subversion?
>>>
>>> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on
>>> GitHub.
>>> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/django/**djangoproject.com
>>> If you want to work on code directly, that's the place to start.
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to organization of the d

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Dana Woodman]

Giovanni and I have touched base about collaborating on the design. We'll 
update as we go. 

There are tons of good Django videos to choose from. Ideas are appreciated. 

On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "rikuthero...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

> The one that Giovanni did is really nice, I like it!
> 
> 2012/4/29 Juan Pablo Martínez 
> http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> nice :)
> 
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Giovanni Collazo  wrote:
> I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.
> 
> Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> 
> --
> @gcollazo
> gcoll...@24veces.com
> 
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
> This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
> 
> --
> Dana Woodman
> d...@danawoodman.com
> http://www.danawoodman.com
> 
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  wrote:
>>> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
>>> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>>> 
>>> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman  wrote:
 Great info Russ, thanks!
 
 My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
 including the home page and documentation overview pages.
 
 For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
 
 -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers the
 "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example, Twitter
 Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
 Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
 "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
 question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger users
 of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
 addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use 
 Django
 and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and is
 worth the investment.
 A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
 Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
 
 
 Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) homepage
 would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and easy
 to navigate.
 
 Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
 community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
 the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are, what
 would be an ideal process for this?
 
 How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
 djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
 
 I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
 
 Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a 
 complete
 overhaul in one go?
 
 --
 Dana Woodman
 d...@danawoodman.com
 http://www.danawoodman.com
 
 On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
 
 Hi Dana
 
 
 On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
 
 Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together when
 this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
 
 I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking for
 something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
 produce) something that is suitable.
 
 
 In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
 it.
 
 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if 
 they
 want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making Django
 a bit more "sexy".
 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to 
 navigate,
 especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by some
 modifications to headers and color choices.
 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
 regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
 community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
 development, lots of built in security, etc...
 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
 
 Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to work
 on subversion?
 
 As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on GitHub.
 However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
 
 https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com
 If you want to work on code directly

Re: Django use of stdlib HTMLParser "internals"

[Carl Meyer]

Hi Vinay and Aymeric,

On 04/28/2012 12:50 AM, Aymeric Augustin wrote:

On 28 avr. 2012, at 00:49, Vinay Sajip wrote:

 From the discussion on python-dev, it seems possible that an optimal
fix might require changes both in Python and in Django. Before
creating a ticket about this for Django, I would like to get an
opinion about this from the Django committers - so can someone please
look at this python-dev thread and/or Python issue and comment?


Hi Vinay,

As far as I can tell, Django's patching HTMLParser [1] to work around a bug [2] 
that was fixed in Python 2.7 and 3.2. If that comment is accurate, we could apply 
the patch only when running on Python<  2.7.

So it seems possible to conditionally fix Django, whatever solution the Python 
devs choose.


I took a look at this today and discussed it on IRC with Ezio Melotti, 
who maintains HTMLParser in the standard library, and we agreed that the 
best solution is to only use our custom HTMLParser subclass with older 
versions of Python where the standard library HTMLParser is known to be 
buggy, and just use the standard library's HTMLParser with newer 
Pythons. I've filed a ticket for this 
(https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/18239) and will try to close it 
this week unless someone else gets there first.


Carl

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Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[will kahn-greene]

Hi!

I run pyvideo.org and I'm totally game for adding API points for 
anything you want to do with the Django sites. You can definitely get 
the data elsewhere on the Internet, but one of the purposes of pyvideo 
is to make this sort of thing easier.


Thought I'd mention it in case that's interesting to anyone.

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Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Adnane Belmadiaf]

Hi all,

I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal
http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png

Best,
Adnane Belmadiaf

2012/4/29 Juan Pablo Martínez 

> http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> nice :)
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Giovanni Collazo wrote:
>
>> I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.
>>
>> Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh
>>
>> --
>> @gcollazo
>> gcoll...@24veces.com
>>
>> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my take: 
>>> http://cl.ly/**0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dana Woodman
>>> d...@danawoodman.com
>>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw something
>>> up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
>>>
>>> Email: alectayl...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great info Russ, thanks!
>>>
>>> My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content sections,
>>> including the home page and documentation overview pages.
>>>
>>> For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
>>>
>>> -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - Answers
>>> the
>>> "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for example,
>>> Twitter
>>> Bootstraps's home page: 
>>> http://cl.ly/**3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S
>>> )
>>> Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" question
>>> "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses Django?"
>>> question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the larger
>>> users
>>> of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, Mahalo,
>>> addons.mozilla.org, etc... This alone would get people excited to use
>>> Django
>>> and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can scale and
>>> is
>>> worth the investment.
>>> A graphical site navigation area, eg: http://cl.ly/**
>>> 3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K  -
>>> Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on the site.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org
>>> /) homepage
>>> would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things minimal and
>>> easy
>>> to navigate.
>>>
>>> Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to update the
>>> community of interesting or useful links. This could work in concert with
>>> the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this are,
>>> what
>>> would be an ideal process for this?
>>>
>>> How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
>>> djangoproject.org, Github Wiki, a PDF, or...?
>>>
>>> I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new skin?
>>>
>>> Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be a
>>> complete
>>> overhaul in one go?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dana Woodman
>>> d...@danawoodman.com
>>> http://www.danawoodman.com
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dana
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:
>>>
>>> Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put together
>>> when
>>> this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
>>>
>>> I've included the design brief in my response to Ned. If you're looking
>>> for
>>> something else in particular, let me know and I'll see if I can find (or
>>> produce) something that is suitable.
>>>
>>>
>>> In regards to what needs improvement, there are some core issues as I see
>>> it.
>>>
>>> 1) the home page does a poor job of conveying what someone should do if
>>> they
>>> want to try out Django. It also could do a much better job of making
>>> Django
>>> a bit more "sexy".
>>> 2) the documentation itself, while thorough, is a bit difficult to
>>> navigate,
>>> especially for new users. I think this could be partially remedied by
>>> some
>>> modifications to headers and color choices.
>>> 3) the project could do a better job of selling itself, especially in
>>> regards to showcasing why it is so great: automatic admin, large active
>>> community and plugins, large sites and organizations using it, active
>>> development, lots of built in security, etc...
>>> 4) it just looks old and outdated, which is a problem in its own right.
>>>
>>> Should I just fork the project on Github and hack away or do I need to
>>> work
>>> on subversion?
>>>
>>> As of yesterday, we are a SVN-free organisation -- everything is on
>>> GitHub.
>>> However, djangoproject.com has been on GitHub for a while:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/django/**djangoproject.com
>>> If you want to work on code directly, that's the 

Re: Redesign of djangoproject.com?

[Dana Woodman]

You already posted that earlier today Adnane.

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On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Adnane Belmadiaf wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I would like to introduce myself, here is my proposal 
> http://i.imgur.com/bnf2e.png  
>  
> Best,
> Adnane Belmadiaf
>  
>  
> 2012/4/29 Juan Pablo Martínez mailto:jpm...@gmail.com)>
> > http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> > nice :)
> >  
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Giovanni Collazo  > (mailto:gcoll...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > I liked what Dana Woodman did, so I did a design based on that.
> > >  
> > > Here: http://imgur.com/a/186fh
> > >  
> > > --
> > > @gcollazo
> > > gcoll...@24veces.com (mailto:gcoll...@24veces.com)
> > >  
> > > On Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC-4, Dana Woodman wrote:
> > > > This is my take: http://cl.ly/0U2C1O20133i0U3d1s3X/o
> > > >  
> > > > --
> > > > Dana Woodman
> > > > d...@danawoodman.com (mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)
> > > > http://www.danawoodman.com
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > Here is a design I just pulled up: http://i.imgur.com/wIkel.png
> > > > >  
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >  
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Alec Taylor  > > > > (mailto:alec.tayl...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > Contact me for UX once you have forked the repo, I'll throw 
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > up and place it on the wiki (or in an issue) of that new repo.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Email: alectayl...@gmail.com (mailto:alectayl...@gmail.com)
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dana Woodman 
> > > > > > mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > Great info Russ, thanks!
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > My thoughts at this point would be to focus on the main content 
> > > > > > > sections,
> > > > > > > including the home page and documentation overview pages.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > For the home page I'd see something like this working well:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > -Logo and brief project description (fork on Github as well?) - 
> > > > > > > Answers the
> > > > > > > "What is Django?" and "Why should I care?" questions. (for 
> > > > > > > example, Twitter
> > > > > > > Bootstraps's home page: http://cl.ly/3R0d1X300S0S0f0A0j0S)
> > > > > > > Link to download and docs - Answers the "How can I start?" 
> > > > > > > question
> > > > > > > "Who uses Django?" section - Answers, well... the "Who uses 
> > > > > > > Django?"
> > > > > > > question. BTW, is there a reason that there isn't more of the 
> > > > > > > larger users
> > > > > > > of Django on here?  Eg Disqus, Instagram, Pinterest, Google, 
> > > > > > > Mahalo,
> > > > > > > addons.mozilla.org (http://addons.mozilla.org), etc... This alone 
> > > > > > > would get people excited to use Django
> > > > > > > and would convince a lot of the business types that Django can 
> > > > > > > scale and is
> > > > > > > worth the investment.
> > > > > > > A graphical site navigation area, eg: 
> > > > > > > http://cl.ly/3B1N2h3E2x3x0f3V091K -
> > > > > > > Give people a an easy way to get around to the core content on 
> > > > > > > the site.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Thinking a layout along the lines of Node.js (http://nodejs.org/) 
> > > > > > > homepage
> > > > > > > would be effective. Node does a good job of keeping things 
> > > > > > > minimal and easy
> > > > > > > to navigate.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Some sort of "blogroll" type feature would satisfy the need to 
> > > > > > > update the
> > > > > > > community of interesting or useful links. This could work in 
> > > > > > > concert with
> > > > > > > the documentation as well. Not sure what the exact needs for this 
> > > > > > > are, what
> > > > > > > would be an ideal process for this?
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > How would the style guide be presented? Would it be a page on
> > > > > > > djangoproject.org (http://djangoproject.org), Github Wiki, a PDF, 
> > > > > > > or...?
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > I assume it would be fairly straightforward to give Spinx a new 
> > > > > > > skin?
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Do you feel an incremental approach would be best or should it be 
> > > > > > > a complete
> > > > > > > overhaul in one go?
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Dana Woodman
> > > > > > > d...@danawoodman.com (mailto:d...@danawoodman.com)
> > > > > > > http://www.danawoodman.com
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Saturday, April 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Hi Dana
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dana Woodman wrote:  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Very true Chris. I'd love to see the documents that were put 
> > > > > > > together when
> > > > > > > this was discussed last time, if they're still around.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > I've included the design brief in my respons