[DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[Jason Gerlowski]

Hey all,

It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
planning:

1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
are summarized here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
more than happy to set things up for this month.

2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
opinions, please discuss.

Best,

Jason

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Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

[Jason Gerlowski]

Hi Alejandro,

Thanks for taking the initiative on this!  You should now have
permission to create and edit pages in Confluence - let me know if
you're not seeing that on your end.  Happy to help with some
copy-editing once it's up there!

Since this is the first of these newsletter proposals, maybe we should
also use this thread to discuss a few "process" questions around the
newsletter?  (Or maybe I missed these getting discussed elsewhere?)

The biggest question I was curious about: what does "publication" look
like for these newsletters?  Will it be published in "Confluence", or
are we using Confluence for editing before eventually publishing in
some other medium like annou...@solr.apache.org, the Solr website,
etc.

Best,

Jason

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 7:09 PM Arrieta, Alejandro
 wrote:
>
> Hello Team,
>
> Newsletter on ASF social media:
> I just returned home from Community over Code, where I talked with the
> Asfinfra team, and they redirected me to talk with Brian Proffit.
> I talked with him about the new Solr newsletter, and he told me to send him
> what we want to publish, the date to publish, and the email with a copy to
> the Solr PMC chair.
> David Smiley, please confirm you are okay so I can email Brian to publish
> the September 2023 newsletter.
>
> Apache Solr wiki newsletter:
> As discussed during the conference, please give me edit authorization to
> Solr Wiki to start uploading the newsletter there. My account should be
> aarrieta and email aarri...@perrinsoftware.com
>
> Linkedin Apache Solr account/group:
> The Asinfra team told me they do not create social media accounts. These
> are created and managed by each project. We can request templates and
> publishing guides from pr...@apache.org and mmp group.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Alejandro Arrieta
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:43 AM Bruno Roustant 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 !
> >
> > Le lun. 9 oct. 2023 à 16:54, Eric Pugh  a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > I’d love to see it on mastodon/twitterX/linkedin too….   I bet ASF PR
> > > would love to see this as well ;-)
> > >
> > > > On Oct 8, 2023, at 5:36 PM, Alessandro Benedetti  > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 I think it's a wonderful idea!
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2023, 17:26 Arrieta, Alejandro, <
> > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> 0. Intro
> > > >> Welcome to the Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023. As this
> > > is
> > > >> the first newsletter proposal of 2023 we include Solr Community news
> > > >> starting from January 2023:
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome Alex Deparvu as Solr committer:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/fx4o3y55ypqy1n06kdbq5k8h4pjxlowj
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome Marcus Eagan as Solr committer:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/2p2fjm18g39x2mknxqnbr3gfcx0q6rrx
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome David Smiley as Solr's new PMC chair:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/yrp2yll52r0fm2pbhw17b62oln63fp33
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome Andy Webb as Solr committer:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k449v7jl4bwg6f7x707tvw5ch2dk8h3f
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome Justin Sweeney as Solr committer:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/g588106pohdwok7gpwwcsxpgvwxwwh41
> > > >>
> > > >> Welcome Colvin Cowie as Solr committer:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/ngzjs0b3mb201d2shfvzdysdd5g6xqz1
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Current versions
> > > >> Solr 9.3.0:
> > > >> https://solr.apache.org/downloads.html#solr-930
> > > >>
> > > >> Solr 8.11.2:
> > > >> https://solr.apache.org/downloads.html#solr-8112
> > > >>
> > > >> Solr Operator v0.7.1:
> > > >> https://solr.apache.org/operator/artifacts.html#solr-v071
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Incoming versions
> > > >> Solr 9.4.0
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j44golmqp4sjf2rk74pqktkrsc1do58r
> > > >>
> > > >> Solr 8.11.3
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/j44golmqp4sjf2rk74pqktkrsc1do58r
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Solr Improvement Proposals News
> > > >> SIP-13: Cross Data Center Replication
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/9y2qd7rs45049xbrt0gty40m4b5cv22y
> > > >> wiki link:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-13%3A+Cross+Data+Center+Replication
> > > >>
> > > >> SIP-14 Embedded Zookeeper
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/mch6y4wsbqykcmfy4r76movmx1wz0375
> > > >> wiki link:
> > > >>
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-14+Embedded+Zookeeper
> > > >>
> > > >> SIP-15 Node roles
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kwq609jxckpdqk54fvghxs66jtk92kof
> > > >> wiki link:
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
> > > >>
> > > >> SIP-19 Adopt JSR-330 dependency injection
> > > >> mailing list thread:
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/9y2qd7rs45049xbrt0gty40m4b5cv22y
> > > >> wiki link:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > https://cwiki.

Re: Some help needed to complete the release

[Jason Gerlowski]

Hey Alex,

I've updated wikidata and added the release via the "Apache Release
Reporter".  Let me know if anything looks off, particularly with the
wikidata changes.

Best,

Jason

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
>
> Thank you for checking Alejandro!
> Indeed I checked from my phone now and it looks good! Strange probably a
> browser cache issue.
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 14:18 Arrieta, Alejandro <
> aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Alex,
> >
> > Thanks for the release! :-)
> >
> > I do not see 9.4-beta anywhere on
> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html (redirects to
> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html)
> > If going from https://solr.apache.org/ -> resources -> reference guide
> > points to
> > https://solr.apache.org/guide
> > redirects to
> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html
> > beta not on the menus to select the version, they show 9.4 and inside the
> > doc for example:
> >
> > There are three separate packages:
> >
> >-
> >
> >solr-9.4.0.tgz the full binary package, for all operating systems. This
> >package includes all first-party Solr modules and accessories (e.g. the
> >prometheus-exporter).
> >-
> >
> >solr-9.4.0-slim.tgz the slim binary package, for all operating systems.
> >This package only includes what is necessary to run Solr. Modules and
> >accessories (e.g. the prometheus-exporter) are not included.
> >-
> >
> >solr-9.4.0-src.tgz the package Solr source code. This is useful if you
> >want to develop on Solr without using the official Git repository.
> >
> > Maybe there is a cache issue in your browser or latency on the refresh of
> > the pages (cdn)?
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Kind Regards.
> > Alejandro Arrieta
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am completing the 9.4 release and I need some help with these steps
> > >
> > > The RefGuide version shows as `9.4-beta`: I have published everything
> > > following the wizard but the guide version shows up as 9.4-beta I
> > probably
> > > forgot to check some box somewhere.
> > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html
> > >
> > > Step `8 - Announce the release`.
> > >
> > > > 4 - Add the new version to Wikipedia
> > >
> > > I don't have an account on wikidata.org - can anyone update this page,
> > or
> > > should I create an account just for this release?
> > >
> > > > 5 - Add the new version to the Apache Release Reporter
> > >
> > > This is only available to PMC members:
> > > "Could not save. Make sure you have filled out all fields and have access
> > > to this committee data! For further inquiries, please contact
> > > d...@community.apache.org
> > > Error: User stillalex not a member of PMC solr nor an ASF member"
> > >
> > > I am thinking a PMC member could help do this, as it's a 5 second task.
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > alex
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[Arrieta, Alejandro]

Hello Team,

1) pick me

2) proposed dates/time
Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
or
Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
To have at least one week to promote the event.
The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish the
meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.

Kind Regards,
Alejandro Arrieta

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski 
wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
> October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
> planning:
>
> 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
> are summarized here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
> that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
> more than happy to set things up for this month.
>
> 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> opinions, please discuss.
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Some help needed to complete the release

[Alex Deparvu]

Thank you Jason! Everything looks great.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 7:32 AM Jason Gerlowski  wrote:
>
> Hey Alex,
>
> I've updated wikidata and added the release via the "Apache Release
> Reporter".  Let me know if anything looks off, particularly with the
> wikidata changes.
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for checking Alejandro!
> > Indeed I checked from my phone now and it looks good! Strange probably a
> > browser cache issue.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 14:18 Arrieta, Alejandro <
> > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Alex,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the release! :-)
> > >
> > > I do not see 9.4-beta anywhere on
> > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html (redirects to
> > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html)
> > > If going from https://solr.apache.org/ -> resources -> reference guide
> > > points to
> > > https://solr.apache.org/guide
> > > redirects to
> > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html
> > > beta not on the menus to select the version, they show 9.4 and inside the
> > > doc for example:
> > >
> > > There are three separate packages:
> > >
> > >-
> > >
> > >solr-9.4.0.tgz the full binary package, for all operating systems. This
> > >package includes all first-party Solr modules and accessories (e.g. the
> > >prometheus-exporter).
> > >-
> > >
> > >solr-9.4.0-slim.tgz the slim binary package, for all operating systems.
> > >This package only includes what is necessary to run Solr. Modules and
> > >accessories (e.g. the prometheus-exporter) are not included.
> > >-
> > >
> > >solr-9.4.0-src.tgz the package Solr source code. This is useful if you
> > >want to develop on Solr without using the official Git repository.
> > >
> > > Maybe there is a cache issue in your browser or latency on the refresh of
> > > the pages (cdn)?
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards.
> > > Alejandro Arrieta
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am completing the 9.4 release and I need some help with these steps
> > > >
> > > > The RefGuide version shows as `9.4-beta`: I have published everything
> > > > following the wizard but the guide version shows up as 9.4-beta I
> > > probably
> > > > forgot to check some box somewhere.
> > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Step `8 - Announce the release`.
> > > >
> > > > > 4 - Add the new version to Wikipedia
> > > >
> > > > I don't have an account on wikidata.org - can anyone update this page,
> > > or
> > > > should I create an account just for this release?
> > > >
> > > > > 5 - Add the new version to the Apache Release Reporter
> > > >
> > > > This is only available to PMC members:
> > > > "Could not save. Make sure you have filled out all fields and have 
> > > > access
> > > > to this committee data! For further inquiries, please contact
> > > > d...@community.apache.org
> > > > Error: User stillalex not a member of PMC solr nor an ASF member"
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking a PMC member could help do this, as it's a 5 second task.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > alex
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: Some help needed to complete the release

[Alex Deparvu]

This marks the final steps of the 9.4.0 release as completed!
Thank you everyone for the continued help in getting this release out!

best,
alex


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:26 AM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
>
> Thank you Jason! Everything looks great.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 7:32 AM Jason Gerlowski  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Alex,
> >
> > I've updated wikidata and added the release via the "Apache Release
> > Reporter".  Let me know if anything looks off, particularly with the
> > wikidata changes.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for checking Alejandro!
> > > Indeed I checked from my phone now and it looks good! Strange probably a
> > > browser cache issue.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 14:18 Arrieta, Alejandro <
> > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Alex,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the release! :-)
> > > >
> > > > I do not see 9.4-beta anywhere on
> > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html (redirects to
> > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html)
> > > > If going from https://solr.apache.org/ -> resources -> reference guide
> > > > points to
> > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide
> > > > redirects to
> > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html
> > > > beta not on the menus to select the version, they show 9.4 and inside 
> > > > the
> > > > doc for example:
> > > >
> > > > There are three separate packages:
> > > >
> > > >-
> > > >
> > > >solr-9.4.0.tgz the full binary package, for all operating systems. 
> > > > This
> > > >package includes all first-party Solr modules and accessories (e.g. 
> > > > the
> > > >prometheus-exporter).
> > > >-
> > > >
> > > >solr-9.4.0-slim.tgz the slim binary package, for all operating 
> > > > systems.
> > > >This package only includes what is necessary to run Solr. Modules and
> > > >accessories (e.g. the prometheus-exporter) are not included.
> > > >-
> > > >
> > > >solr-9.4.0-src.tgz the package Solr source code. This is useful if 
> > > > you
> > > >want to develop on Solr without using the official Git repository.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe there is a cache issue in your browser or latency on the refresh 
> > > > of
> > > > the pages (cdn)?
> > > >
> > > > I hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards.
> > > > Alejandro Arrieta
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM Alex Deparvu  
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am completing the 9.4 release and I need some help with these steps
> > > > >
> > > > > The RefGuide version shows as `9.4-beta`: I have published everything
> > > > > following the wizard but the guide version shows up as 9.4-beta I
> > > > probably
> > > > > forgot to check some box somewhere.
> > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Step `8 - Announce the release`.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 4 - Add the new version to Wikipedia
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have an account on wikidata.org - can anyone update this page,
> > > > or
> > > > > should I create an account just for this release?
> > > > >
> > > > > > 5 - Add the new version to the Apache Release Reporter
> > > > >
> > > > > This is only available to PMC members:
> > > > > "Could not save. Make sure you have filled out all fields and have 
> > > > > access
> > > > > to this committee data! For further inquiries, please contact
> > > > > d...@community.apache.org
> > > > > Error: User stillalex not a member of PMC solr nor an ASF member"
> > > > >
> > > > > I am thinking a PMC member could help do this, as it's a 5 second 
> > > > > task.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > alex
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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Re: subscribe

[Houston Putman]

Pease refer here on how to subscribe to a Solr mailing list:

https://solr.apache.org/community.html#mailing-lists-chat

- Houston

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:07 PM Vince McMahon 
wrote:

>
>

Re: Some help needed to complete the release

[Eric Pugh]

Alex, what is the process for getting updated Docker images published?   
Someone pinged me about the 9.4 image.   Is that part of the release process.

On 2023/10/16 15:32:29 Alex Deparvu wrote:
> This marks the final steps of the 9.4.0 release as completed!
> Thank you everyone for the continued help in getting this release out!
> 
> best,
> alex
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:26 AM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Jason! Everything looks great.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 7:32 AM Jason Gerlowski  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Alex,
> > >
> > > I've updated wikidata and added the release via the "Apache Release
> > > Reporter".  Let me know if anything looks off, particularly with the
> > > wikidata changes.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Alex Deparvu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for checking Alejandro!
> > > > Indeed I checked from my phone now and it looks good! Strange probably a
> > > > browser cache issue.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 14:18 Arrieta, Alejandro <
> > > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Alex,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the release! :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not see 9.4-beta anywhere on
> > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html (redirects to
> > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html)
> > > > > If going from https://solr.apache.org/ -> resources -> reference guide
> > > > > points to
> > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide
> > > > > redirects to
> > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html
> > > > > beta not on the menus to select the version, they show 9.4 and inside 
> > > > > the
> > > > > doc for example:
> > > > >
> > > > > There are three separate packages:
> > > > >
> > > > >-
> > > > >
> > > > >solr-9.4.0.tgz the full binary package, for all operating systems. 
> > > > > This
> > > > >package includes all first-party Solr modules and accessories 
> > > > > (e.g. the
> > > > >prometheus-exporter).
> > > > >-
> > > > >
> > > > >solr-9.4.0-slim.tgz the slim binary package, for all operating 
> > > > > systems.
> > > > >This package only includes what is necessary to run Solr. Modules 
> > > > > and
> > > > >accessories (e.g. the prometheus-exporter) are not included.
> > > > >-
> > > > >
> > > > >solr-9.4.0-src.tgz the package Solr source code. This is useful if 
> > > > > you
> > > > >want to develop on Solr without using the official Git repository.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe there is a cache issue in your browser or latency on the 
> > > > > refresh of
> > > > > the pages (cdn)?
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards.
> > > > > Alejandro Arrieta
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM Alex Deparvu  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am completing the 9.4 release and I need some help with these 
> > > > > > steps
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The RefGuide version shows as `9.4-beta`: I have published 
> > > > > > everything
> > > > > > following the wizard but the guide version shows up as 9.4-beta I
> > > > > probably
> > > > > > forgot to check some box somewhere.
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Step `8 - Announce the release`.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4 - Add the new version to Wikipedia
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't have an account on wikidata.org - can anyone update this 
> > > > > > page,
> > > > > or
> > > > > > should I create an account just for this release?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5 - Add the new version to the Apache Release Reporter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is only available to PMC members:
> > > > > > "Could not save. Make sure you have filled out all fields and have 
> > > > > > access
> > > > > > to this committee data! For further inquiries, please contact
> > > > > > d...@community.apache.org
> > > > > > Error: User stillalex not a member of PMC solr nor an ASF member"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am thinking a PMC member could help do this, as it's a 5 second 
> > > > > > task.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > alex
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org
> > >
> 
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Re: Some help needed to complete the release

[Houston Putman]

Our portion of the docker release is partly done via the release wizard,
and partly automated.

In the end it creates a PR that the Docker official images team has to
merge in order to release to new version.

https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/pull/15548

So we can't do anything about it, they have to merge the PR.

- Houston

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:28 PM Eric Pugh  wrote:

> Alex, what is the process for getting updated Docker images published?
>  Someone pinged me about the 9.4 image.   Is that part of the release
> process.
>
> On 2023/10/16 15:32:29 Alex Deparvu wrote:
> > This marks the final steps of the 9.4.0 release as completed!
> > Thank you everyone for the continued help in getting this release out!
> >
> > best,
> > alex
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:26 AM Alex Deparvu 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Jason! Everything looks great.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 7:32 AM Jason Gerlowski 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Alex,
> > > >
> > > > I've updated wikidata and added the release via the "Apache Release
> > > > Reporter".  Let me know if anything looks off, particularly with the
> > > > wikidata changes.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Alex Deparvu 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for checking Alejandro!
> > > > > Indeed I checked from my phone now and it looks good! Strange
> probably a
> > > > > browser cache issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 14:18 Arrieta, Alejandro <
> > > > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Alex,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the release! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not see 9.4-beta anywhere on
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html (redirects to
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html)
> > > > > > If going from https://solr.apache.org/ -> resources ->
> reference guide
> > > > > > points to
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide
> > > > > > redirects to
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/index.html
> > > > > > beta not on the menus to select the version, they show 9.4 and
> inside the
> > > > > > doc for example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are three separate packages:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >solr-9.4.0.tgz the full binary package, for all operating
> systems. This
> > > > > >package includes all first-party Solr modules and accessories
> (e.g. the
> > > > > >prometheus-exporter).
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >solr-9.4.0-slim.tgz the slim binary package, for all
> operating systems.
> > > > > >This package only includes what is necessary to run Solr.
> Modules and
> > > > > >accessories (e.g. the prometheus-exporter) are not included.
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >solr-9.4.0-src.tgz the package Solr source code. This is
> useful if you
> > > > > >want to develop on Solr without using the official Git
> repository.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe there is a cache issue in your browser or latency on the
> refresh of
> > > > > > the pages (cdn)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards.
> > > > > > Alejandro Arrieta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM Alex Deparvu <
> stilla...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am completing the 9.4 release and I need some help with
> these steps
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The RefGuide version shows as `9.4-beta`: I have published
> everything
> > > > > > > following the wizard but the guide version shows up as
> 9.4-beta I
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > forgot to check some box somewhere.
> > > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/9_4/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Step `8 - Announce the release`.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 4 - Add the new version to Wikipedia
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't have an account on wikidata.org - can anyone update
> this page,
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > should I create an account just for this release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5 - Add the new version to the Apache Release Reporter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is only available to PMC members:
> > > > > > > "Could not save. Make sure you have filled out all fields and
> have access
> > > > > > > to this committee data! For further inquiries, please contact
> > > > > > > d...@community.apache.org
> > > > > > > Error: User stillalex not a member of PMC solr nor an ASF
> member"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am thinking a PMC member could help do this, as it's a 5
> second task.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > alex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
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> > > >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Thanks Alejandro. I vote option 1 (26th)

On Mon, 16 Oct, 2023, 8:38 pm Arrieta, Alejandro, <
aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hello Team,
>
> 1) pick me
>
> 2) proposed dates/time
> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> or
> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> To have at least one week to promote the event.
> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish the
> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Alejandro Arrieta
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
> > October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
> > planning:
> >
> > 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
> > are summarized here:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> > Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
> > that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
> > more than happy to set things up for this month.
> >
> > 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> > we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> > opinions, please discuss.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[Eric Pugh]

Looking forward to it, I like option 1 too.

> On Oct 16, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alejandro. I vote option 1 (26th)
> 
> On Mon, 16 Oct, 2023, 8:38 pm Arrieta, Alejandro, <
> aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Team,
>> 
>> 1) pick me
>> 
>> 2) proposed dates/time
>> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
>> or
>> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
>> To have at least one week to promote the event.
>> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish the
>> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Alejandro Arrieta
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
>>> October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
>>> planning:
>>> 
>>> 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
>>> are summarized here:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
>>> Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
>>> that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
>>> more than happy to set things up for this month.
>>> 
>>> 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
>>> we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
>>> opinions, please discuss.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[raghavan m]

I am ok with both options. Thanks Alejandro.
I have two topics that i would like to propose for discussion
1. Integration with LLM orchestration libraries eg. haystack, langchain,
llama_index, (all of them have elastic integration already)
2. Lessons learnt and seeking feedback as a beginner from allied field.

thanks,
*Raghavan*


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:15 AM Eric Pugh 
wrote:

> Looking forward to it, I like option 1 too.
>
> > On Oct 16, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Alejandro. I vote option 1 (26th)
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Oct, 2023, 8:38 pm Arrieta, Alejandro, <
> > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Team,
> >>
> >> 1) pick me
> >>
> >> 2) proposed dates/time
> >> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> >> or
> >> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> >> To have at least one week to promote the event.
> >> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish
> the
> >> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Alejandro Arrieta
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
> >>> October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
> >>> planning:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
> >>> are summarized here:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> >>> Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
> >>> that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
> >>> more than happy to set things up for this month.
> >>>
> >>> 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> >>> we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> >>> opinions, please discuss.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Jason
> >>>
> >>> -
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

I have an idea, not sure if we can do it this meeting or sometime later,
that I want to organize sometime:

* Fun event, maybe half an hour long.
* eating your own dogfood kind of competitions / hack sessions for
community members (esp committers)
* Organizer shares a problem with everyone, something involving using Solr.
He/she provides datasets etc.
* Every participant attempts to complete the proposed task, and documents
his/her process
* End of the allotted time, participants share their progress. There is/are
a winner(s).
* Post competition, discussions (synchronously or offline) on the
experience of doing the task.

Goals:
* Learning how to use Solr in practice (very useful for committers)
* Feeling some of users' pain points

Further:
* Do the same task with OpenSearch, ElasticSearch, Vespa etc. just to gain
a feel of comparison

On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 00:21, raghavan m  wrote:

> I am ok with both options. Thanks Alejandro.
> I have two topics that i would like to propose for discussion
> 1. Integration with LLM orchestration libraries eg. haystack, langchain,
> llama_index, (all of them have elastic integration already)
> 2. Lessons learnt and seeking feedback as a beginner from allied field.
>
> thanks,
> *Raghavan*
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:15 AM Eric Pugh <
> ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Looking forward to it, I like option 1 too.
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Alejandro. I vote option 1 (26th)
> > >
> > > On Mon, 16 Oct, 2023, 8:38 pm Arrieta, Alejandro, <
> > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Team,
> > >>
> > >> 1) pick me
> > >>
> > >> 2) proposed dates/time
> > >> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> > >> or
> > >> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> > >> To have at least one week to promote the event.
> > >> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish
> > the
> > >> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
> > >>
> > >> Kind Regards,
> > >> Alejandro Arrieta
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski <
> gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hey all,
> > >>>
> > >>> It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup
> for
> > >>> October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
> > >>> planning:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
> > >>> are summarized here:
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> > >>> Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
> > >>> that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so,
> I'm
> > >>> more than happy to set things up for this month.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> > >>> we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> > >>> opinions, please discuss.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jason
> > >>>
> > >>> -
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> > >>
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[Operator] [VOTE] Release the Solr Operator v0.8.0 RC1

[Jason Gerlowski]

Please vote for release candidate 1 for the Solr Operator v0.8.0

The artifacts can be downloaded from:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-operator/solr-operator-v0.8.0-RC1-revf2c27102a7e9056c6fe7d8cea6c97bac5a47fcc0

You can run the full smoke tester, with instructions below.
However, it is also encouraged to go and use the artifacts yourself in
a test Kubernetes cluster.
The smoke tester does not require you to download or install the RC
artifacts before running.
If you plan on just running the smoke tests, then ignore all other instructions.

The artifacts are laid out in the following way:
  * solr-operator-v0.8.0.tgz - Contains the source release
  * crds/ - Contains the CRD files
  * helm-charts/ - Contains the Helm release packages

The RC Docker image can be found at:
  apache/solr-operator:v0.8.0-rc1

The RC Helm repo can be added with:
  helm repo add apache-solr-rc
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-operator/solr-operator-v0.8.0-RC1-revf2c27102a7e9056c6fe7d8cea6c97bac5a47fcc0/helm-charts

You can install the RC Solr Operator and Solr CRDs and an example Solr
Cloud with:
  curl -sL0 "https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/solr/KEYS"; |
gpg --import --quiet
  # This will export your public keys into a format that helm can understand.
  # Skip verification by removing "--verify" in the helm command below.
  if ! (gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring=~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
--list-keys "60392455"); then gpg --export >~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg; fi
  kubectl create -f
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-operator/solr-operator-v0.8.0-RC1-revf2c27102a7e9056c6fe7d8cea6c97bac5a47fcc0/crds/all-with-dependencies.yaml
|| \
kubectl replace -f
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-operator/solr-operator-v0.8.0-RC1-revf2c27102a7e9056c6fe7d8cea6c97bac5a47fcc0/crds/all-with-dependencies.yaml
  helm install --verify solr-operator apache-solr-rc/solr-operator
--set image.tag=v0.8.0-rc1
  helm install --verify example apache-solr-rc/solr

You can run the full smoke tester directly with this command: (First
checkout the release-0.8 branch of the solr-operator)

# First clear your go-mod cache to make sure old cache entries don't
cause smoke test failures
make mod-clean
./hack/release/smoke_test/smoke_test.sh -v "v0.8.0" -s "f2c2710" -i
"apache/solr-operator:v0.8.0-rc1" -g "60392455" \
-l 
'https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/solr/solr-operator/solr-operator-v0.8.0-RC1-revf2c27102a7e9056c6fe7d8cea6c97bac5a47fcc0'

If you want to run the smoke test with a specific version of
kubernetes, use the -k option with a full version tag. (e.g. -k
v1.19.3)
If you want to run the smoke test with a custom version of solr, use
the -t option with an official Solr image version. (e.g. -t 8.10.0)
  However, for this smoke test, you must use a solr version that
supports incremental backups. (i.e. 8.9+)

Make sure you have the following installed before running the smoke test:
  - Docker (Give it enough memory and CPU to run ~12 containers, 3 of
which are Solr nodes)
More information on required resources can be found here:
https://kind.sigs.k8s.io/docs/user/quick-start/#settings-for-docker-desktop
  - Go 1.20
  - Kubectl
  - GnuPG
  - Helm v3.4.0+
  - Kustomize (v4.0.0+) This will be installed for you, but NOT
upgraded if a lower version is already installed.
  - yq
  - jq
  - coreutils (if using Mac OS)

The vote will be open for at least 72 hours i.e. until 2023-10-19 20:00 UTC.

[ ] +1  approve
[ ] +0  no opinion
[ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)

Here is my +1

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[ANNOUNCE] DataImportHandler 9.4.0 released

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Hi All,

DataImportHandler 9.4.0 has now been released for Solr 9.4.0.

To use it with the package manager, follow instructions here:
https://github.com/SearchScale/dataimporthandler#installing-and-running

To grab the binaries, please check: https://github.com/SearchScale/
dataimporthandler/tree/master/repo and https://github.com/SearchScale/
dataimporthandler/releases/tag/v9.4.0

Documentation is not updated to 9.0 yet, but an older version is documented
here: https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/uploading-structured-data-store-
data-with-the-data-import-handler.html

Please note that DataImportHandler is no longer a first party, officially
supported module/plugin/package, but it is now a community maintained,
unofficial project. If you're using DIH in production, it would be valuable
to have you join the maintainers and keep the project alive.

Thanks and regards,
--
Ishan Chattopadhyaya
* Solr Consultant, SearchScale
* Committer & PMC Member, Apache Solr

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

[David Smiley]

Sorry; I was/am recovering from COVID and was kind of a sloth in getting to
anything.  Thanks Jason for jumping in to help.  I put a bunch of thought
into this as you'll see below.  And I want to be involved as much as is
welcome.

Alejandro, I can't thank you enough for volunteering for the newsletter.
Coincidentally, Ishan shared the idea of this with me as well but I didn't
act on it.  I think a newsletter is the best communication tool for users
and potential users to get a sense of what's going on with Solr.  This
extends to us Solr committers; we are not always paying attention to
everything happening!  A newsletter could shine a light on such topics as:

* Events (conf, meetup, training, ...)
* Links to new blog/article posts.
   Not sure how to seek these out.  After the wide success of the
newsletter, we can hope people will tell *us* so we don't have to find
them.  The first few newsletters could actively solicit recommendations.
   I don't think we need a centralized place for new blog posts, e.g.
for Solr committers or Alejandro as someone suggested; plenty exist out
there with people posting everywhere already and that won't stop.  We might
want to link to them all in one place though.  Hmmm.
* Everything the PMC announces already (just links or possibly more)
** New Releases
** New committers & PMC members & PMC chair
** Security vulnerabilities
* Give kudos to Solr contributors this period that are not committers.
(just a list of names)
   Could partially automate this with "git log" and more.
* Active areas of development
* Active topics of discussion
* Let committers (or anyone in the community?) send messages to readers
like:
** ex: "who is actually using feature XYZ anyway?  No response means
deprecation!"<--- yeah there we go, a threat to compel users to
subscribe LOL
** ex: Interest in a meetup for Solr in city X.

Even if it's "just links" (like Alejandro's first draft), it's better than
no newsletter at all.  Over time, we can hope for more.



Jason's questions were spot on.

Editing:  I think everyone with edit access to the Solr "space" in
Confuence (mostly just commiters but + some others) should feel welcome to
add/edit without permission at any time and without coordination.
Confluence has tools to "watch" and see edit history.  Perhaps the
non-published page can be named this clearly like "NEXT-DRAFT" which will
later be renamed to a year-month like dated version once it's published,
and they can all live in one listing (i.e. under one parent page for the
newsletters).  Then treat it as read-only.  A "TEMPLATE" one might exist to
create the next "NEXT-DRAFT".  Alejandro can lead this effort and add much
of the content as he has time for.  He already has the first draft.

Publishing: Not sure either on how it should be published exactly.
Alejandro; what are you thinking?  Personally I think Confluence (in-place)
is fine.  Maybe start this way because it's simple & adequate?  We might
consider somewhere on the Solr website as an alternative.  There are many
places where you could share a link. For some mediums like email, publish
the newsletter content so nobody has to click the link (albeit still
provide it).  Ensure the formatting is reasonable.  Alejandro, where was
Brian Profit proposing that the ASF would share such a thing?  If the
newsletter is mostly a list of links (as it is in its current form, albeit
a draft), I think it should not be shared beyond Solr audiences (i.e. not
beyond users@s.a.o email & slack).

Periodicity:  I worry a little Alejandro if you or others feel this needs
to be monthly, that it'll maybe be too burdensome, or that some months are
simply not that interesting.  I recommend feeling free to be loose on the
periodicity.  Maybe shoot for bi-monthly-ish?  I think publishing soon
after a new release (we just did 9.4!) could be really useful for users
that might just want to pay attention to the newsletter for news on
releases.

Thanks again.  Looking forward to further discussion!

~ David


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:17 AM Jason Gerlowski 
wrote:

> Hi Alejandro,
>
> Thanks for taking the initiative on this!  You should now have
> permission to create and edit pages in Confluence - let me know if
> you're not seeing that on your end.  Happy to help with some
> copy-editing once it's up there!
>
> Since this is the first of these newsletter proposals, maybe we should
> also use this thread to discuss a few "process" questions around the
> newsletter?  (Or maybe I missed these getting discussed elsewhere?)
>
> The biggest question I was curious about: what does "publication" look
> like for these newsletters?  Will it be published in "Confluence", or
> are we using Confluence for editing before eventually publishing in
> some other medium like annou...@solr.apache.org, the Solr website,
> etc.
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 7:09 PM Arrieta, Alejandro
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > Newsletter on ASF social

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[David Smiley]

Seems like something for a different or independent event just for this
challenge.  Hey if you want to do something like that, I'd enjoy trying my
best to be a contestant.  It's not "stump the chump" but nonetheless
inventive.  I bet Hossman would best most of us :-).   Note that "ChatGPT"
or similar would make these kinds of challenges quicker to solve.  If the
goal is time to both ingest and analyze to find something... then I had
better get familiar with Christopher Ball's new "Navigator" UI (that I saw
at Halifax) as it seems perfect for slicing & dicing a new data set that
gets thrown in your lap to make hasty analysis of.  Hey, now Chris would be
another formidable contestant :-)

~ David


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 3:35 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an idea, not sure if we can do it this meeting or sometime later,
> that I want to organize sometime:
>
> * Fun event, maybe half an hour long.
> * eating your own dogfood kind of competitions / hack sessions for
> community members (esp committers)
> * Organizer shares a problem with everyone, something involving using Solr.
> He/she provides datasets etc.
> * Every participant attempts to complete the proposed task, and documents
> his/her process
> * End of the allotted time, participants share their progress. There is/are
> a winner(s).
> * Post competition, discussions (synchronously or offline) on the
> experience of doing the task.
>
> Goals:
> * Learning how to use Solr in practice (very useful for committers)
> * Feeling some of users' pain points
>
> Further:
> * Do the same task with OpenSearch, ElasticSearch, Vespa etc. just to gain
> a feel of comparison
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 00:21, raghavan m  wrote:
>
> > I am ok with both options. Thanks Alejandro.
> > I have two topics that i would like to propose for discussion
> > 1. Integration with LLM orchestration libraries eg. haystack, langchain,
> > llama_index, (all of them have elastic integration already)
> > 2. Lessons learnt and seeking feedback as a beginner from allied field.
> >
> > thanks,
> > *Raghavan*
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:15 AM Eric Pugh <
> > ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looking forward to it, I like option 1 too.
> > >
> > > > On Oct 16, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Alejandro. I vote option 1 (26th)
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 16 Oct, 2023, 8:38 pm Arrieta, Alejandro, <
> > > > aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Team,
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) pick me
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) proposed dates/time
> > > >> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> > > >> or
> > > >> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> > > >> To have at least one week to promote the event.
> > > >> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to
> publish
> > > the
> > > >> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kind Regards,
> > > >> Alejandro Arrieta
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski <
> > gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hey all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup
> > for
> > > >>> October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms
> of
> > > >>> planning:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light
> and
> > > >>> are summarized here:
> > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> > > >>> Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting
> time/day
> > > >>> that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so,
> > I'm
> > > >>> more than happy to set things up for this month.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> > > >>> we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> > > >>> opinions, please discuss.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jason
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

[David Smiley]

I prefer the 26th (Thursday) as well.
~ David


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:06 AM Arrieta, Alejandro <
aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hello Team,
>
> 1) pick me
>
> 2) proposed dates/time
> Thursday, Oct  26th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> or
> Friday, Oct  27th, 9 AM Pacific/12PM US East
> To have at least one week to promote the event.
> The vote should end Wednesday, Oct 18th, 11:59 PM Pacific, to publish the
> meetup link on Thursday, Oct 19th.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Alejandro Arrieta
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:40 AM Jason Gerlowski 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > It's time once again to start thinking ahead to our Virtual Meetup for
> > October.  As always, there's two main questions to answer in terms of
> > planning:
> >
> > 1. Any volunteers to organize?  Organizer duties are pretty light and
> > are summarized here:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Meeting+notes.
> > Volunteers get some discretion in terms of picking a meeting time/day
> > that works for them.  If there are no volunteers by mid-week or so, I'm
> > more than happy to set things up for this month.
> >
> > 2. When should we meet?  It's already a good bit into the month, so
> > we'll have to plan for the latter half.  If you have any
> > opinions, please discuss.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: Apache Projects and Discussion Forums

[David Smiley]

ASF requirements relate to running the development of the project itself --
Solr developers -- committers and contributors.  It doesn't extend to user
support channels, which is what the "users" list is.  This makes sense to
me; the ASF can't meaningfully control that because users can go get
support in any form that exists in the internet and the physical world.  We
are not compelled to even have the users list.  FYI
https://www.apache.org/dev/project-requirements#governance

RE GitHub "Discussion", in the original post here, Dave Macky stated:
> While GitHub Discussions would be the easiest to implement I would
recommend Discourse. GitHub is developer-centric and as such would likely,
exclude most, non-dev, users.

That definitely makes sense to me.  I think GH Discussions would be
appropriate for a project like Lucene.

Ultimately, we should poll users on the list to gauge their acceptance of a
new/different medium.  I would say to *replace* the list.

~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley


On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 3:15 AM Jan Høydahl  wrote:

> Perhaps stack overflow is willing to collaborate with infra for an SSO
> integration and provide an api for the asf to sync an archive copy of
> everything? Then it’d be an official alternative.
>
> I know ml feels quite antiquated for newcomers.
>
> Have you considered GitHub’s new “Discussion” tab? It’d perhaps be a more
> low hanging fruit given the pre-existing integration?
>
> Jan Høydahl
>
> > 10. okt. 2023 kl. 06:17 skrev David Smiley :
> >
> > At the ASF Community-over-Code conference today, I brought up this topic
> > with ASF Directors and members at a session about project communication.
> > Yes, a project could host something if a project (PMC) wants to, provided
> > that the "dev list" remains where official project decisions are made.
> > Also, there was advice against over-use of Slack for many reasons.  I
> feel
> > if we had a modern forum in place, we would not have been so tempted to
> > setup Slack for users.
> >
> > My main concern for *adding* a forum is fragmentation for users/everyone
> > with us...@solr.apache.org.  I would much prefer bidirectional
> integration
> > (i.e. a bridge or gateway) so that a user can choose the
> > UX/interaction-model they prefer.  I don't want to cut the user community
> > into silos that don't talk to each other.  I looked at Discourse
> > https://meta.discourse.org and tried to find if it's possible to
> > bridge/gateway to existing mailing lists.  I didn't see it but hopefully
> it
> > exists?  If not / in addition, the Solr user list can be imported into
> > Discourse, but that's a one-time thing intended to transition in full.
> > FWIW I support a complete transition to avoid fragmentation.
> >
> > BTW fragmentation is already the case via stack-overflow today.  Granted
> I
> > don't think there's been much traction there for Solr (yes some, but not
> > much).  I heard some projects out there completely embrace stack-overflow
> > and perhaps don't have a user list or similar.  A bold move but I get
> > the appeal.  It's so radical to my norms that I'm hesitant to suggest it
> > for us but I can't think of a good reason I'd oppose it.  Maybe some of
> you
> > have opinions to share on that?
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 2:53 PM David Mackey 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> I apologize for the delay in responding, I wanted to give some time for
> >> others to share their thoughts and due to the mention of a dedicated
> >> solr.apache.org URL (I wanted to verify if this was something Discourse
> >> offered in their free plan for open source projects, unfortunately it is
> >> not).
> >>
> >> I appreciate Alessandro's generous offer of hosting the forums on the
> >> ir-relevant.net site however I'd lean towards having its forums fully
> >> owned
> >> by Apache/Solr. I am approaching this primarily from a
> visibility/marketing
> >> perspective and I think having dedicated, official forums would be more
> >> "impressive" to those considering Elastic  >,
> >> OpenSearch , Solr, etc.
> >>
> >> I would love to see the forums hosted on the official Solr domain as
> Ishan
> >> suggested. The Apache TVM project's discussion URL is
> >> https://discuss.tvm.apache.org/, so Solr could potentially have one
> like:
> >> https://discuss.solr.apache.org/
> >>
> >> I'd recommend using Discourse  as the forum
> >> software (it is what both Elastic and OpenSearch appear to be using). A
> >> free
> >> instance  is available from Discourse
> for
> >> open source projects. By default this instance would be hosted at
> >> solr.discourse.group and unfortunately the free plan does not support
> >> custom domains (though we could do a redirec

Re: Apache Projects and Discussion Forums

[Jan Høydahl]

> GitHub is developer-centric and as such would likely, exclude most, non-dev, 
> users.

Last time I checked, (direct) users of Solr were developers. Not necessarily 
solr or java devs but tech people integrating or operating solr.

So I’d not exclude GH discussions. The barrier to joining the solr-user list 
discussions is higher than visiting our GH page and browsing discussions. How 
many already have a GH account vs a discourse account? But I agree we could 
have several channels.

Jan Høydahl

> 17. okt. 2023 kl. 07:27 skrev David Smiley :
> 
> GitHub is developer-centric and as such would likely,
> exclude most, non-dev, users.