Re: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic

2022-10-21 Thread pieter van zyl 
Sounds very sad to me! Really thought this was a great product

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:24 PM Anthony Baker  wrote:

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> > On Oct 18, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Owen Nichols 
> wrote:
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> > Once moved to the attic, it sounds like:
> >
> >  *   The geode github repo would become read-only (but remain
> world-readable in perpetuity).
> >  *   Geode would no longer be available for download on the geode
> download site or mirrors (but still available in releases tab in github).
> >  *   Geode maven artifacts would remain available from mavencentral.
> >  *   Geode homebrew formula would no longer be installable.
> >  *   Unsure whether apachegeode/geode docker image would remain
> available?
> >  *   Geode confluence wiki would become read-only.
> >  *   It sound like the user mailing list may be able to remain active?
> >
> > Since no further release are possible without at least 3 active PMC
> members to provide the requisite 3 approving PMC votes, the Attic sounds
> like the best possible way to leave things.
> >
> > From: Dan Smith 
> > Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:12 AM
> > To: dev@geode.apache.org 
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic
> > ⚠ External Email
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Unfortunately, it is time to consider moving Geode to the Apache attic.
> After VMware's announcement that it will stop contributing to Geode, we've
> tried in the last couple months to recruit additional contributors to
> continue supporting the project [1]. However, this last week there was a
> PMC role call on the private list and it appears we will only have one
> active PMC member after the VMware folks completely leave.
> >
> > I think at this point the responsible thing to do is dissolve the Geode
> PMC and move the project to the attic, unless some new contributors
> suddenly show up. We need a minimum of 3 PMC members to keep the project
> viable.
> >
> > This is not yet a vote. I'll let this discussion run this week and start
> a vote next week. I believe even if we vote to dissolve the project and
> move to the attic, the soonest that process would start would be after the
> November board meeting [2].
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Dan
> >
> > [1]
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RE: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic

2022-10-21 Thread rupert 
It *is* a great product, that’s why VMware won’t support the open source 
version any more. $$$

 

From: pieter van zyl  
Sent: 21 October 2022 11:37
To: u...@geode.apache.org
Cc: dev@geode.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic

 

Sounds very sad to me! Really thought this was a great product

 

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:24 PM Anthony Baker mailto:bak...@vmware.com> > wrote:

Bumping this discussion onto the user@ list for visibility.

> On Oct 18, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Owen Nichols   > wrote:
> 
> ⚠ External Email
> 
> Once moved to the attic, it sounds like:
> 
>  *   The geode github repo would become read-only (but remain world-readable 
> in perpetuity).
>  *   Geode would no longer be available for download on the geode download 
> site or mirrors (but still available in releases tab in github).
>  *   Geode maven artifacts would remain available from mavencentral.
>  *   Geode homebrew formula would no longer be installable.
>  *   Unsure whether apachegeode/geode docker image would remain available?
>  *   Geode confluence wiki would become read-only.
>  *   It sound like the user mailing list may be able to remain active?
> 
> Since no further release are possible without at least 3 active PMC members 
> to provide the requisite 3 approving PMC votes, the Attic sounds like the 
> best possible way to leave things.
> 
> From: Dan Smith   >
> Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:12 AM
> To: dev@geode.apache.org     >
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic
> ⚠ External Email
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Unfortunately, it is time to consider moving Geode to the Apache attic. After 
> VMware's announcement that it will stop contributing to Geode, we've tried in 
> the last couple months to recruit additional contributors to continue 
> supporting the project [1]. However, this last week there was a PMC role call 
> on the private list and it appears we will only have one active PMC member 
> after the VMware folks completely leave.
> 
> I think at this point the responsible thing to do is dissolve the Geode PMC 
> and move the project to the attic, unless some new contributors suddenly show 
> up. We need a minimum of 3 PMC members to keep the project viable.
> 
> This is not yet a vote. I'll let this discussion run this week and start a 
> vote next week. I believe even if we vote to dissolve the project and move to 
> the attic, the soonest that process would start would be after the November 
> board meeting [2].
> 
> Thanks,
> -Dan
> 
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