Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions

2022-03-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD 2022. But 
the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> 
> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around improving
>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of Docs.
>> 
>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>> 
>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache Software
>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
>> 
>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are supposed
>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
>> plays with the ASF rules.
>> 
>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>> 
>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>> 
>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>> years, including:
>> 
>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>> organizations
>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
>> writers
>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>> 
>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>> 
>> J.
>> 
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions

2022-03-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and making 
payments to the technical writers in various geographys?

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
> 
> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> And submit ASF application
> 
> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>> 
>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD 2022.
>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>> 
>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>> improving
>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>> Docs.
>>>> 
>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>> 
>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>> Software
>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
>>>> 
>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>> supposed
>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>>> 
>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>>>> years, including:
>>>> 
>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>>>> organizations
>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
>>>> writers
>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>>> 
>>>> J.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions

2022-03-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Ok all that has changed this year.

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
> 
> I'm  not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
> 
> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>>> And submit ASF application
>>> 
>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>> 2022.
>>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>>>> improving
>>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>>>> Docs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>>>> Software
>>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
>> of
>>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>> organisation).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>> year
>>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>> Google
>>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>>>> supposed
>>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how
>> it
>>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>>>>>> years, including:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>>>>>> organizations
>>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>> technical
>>>>>> writers
>>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Joining ASF slack channel

2022-03-17 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Hi Sathyanarayanan,

I am from the Cassandra PMC. I have invited you to slack. Happy to have you. 
Please subscribe to our user and dev list as well.

https://cassandra.apache.org/_/community.html

Dinesh

> On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:06 PM, sathyanarayanan s  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am Sathyanarayanan. I am new to Apache community. I have approximately 9 
> years of experience in the software development. I am majorly into backend 
> development using microservices architecture. My interests are in distributed 
> systems and distributed databases.
> 
> During early stages of my career, I have used Cassandra. I have the interest 
> in contributing to Apache Cassandra.
> 
> I wanted to join the Slack channel. I was following this link: 
> https://infra.apache.org/slack.html . In this link it has been mentioned that 
> I should be having an @apache.org account or someone has to invite me as a 
> guest. My assumption is that it will take some time to get @apache.org 
> account as it depends upon the commitment the users show. If my assumption is 
> correct, is it possible for anyone here to invite me to the "Slack for ASF" 
> channel?
> 
> Any guidance here will be really helpful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sathyanarayanan S
> 
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Re: Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-03-22 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Hi all,

I am coordinating the GSoD effort in the Apache Cassandra community. We already 
have a few volunteers willing to help mentor the tech writer. Who can confirm 
whether ASF is applying as an organization? We will not apply separately.

Thanks,

Dinesh

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sharan,
> 
> I'm happy to help with the ASF's application for SoD, if you need any
> support there.
> 
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:25 PM Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> ComDev currently manages the ASF applications for GSoC so it might make
>> sense for us to centralise the application for this too.
>> 
>> We would need 2 people to manage the ASF organisation application as a
>> mentor organisation as well as administer the projects and mentors.
>> 
>> If selected then each project participating would need to guarantee at
>> least 2 mentors to work with the technical writer.  We currently collect
>> the GSoC ideas via a JIra so perhaps that could be adapted for GSoD too,
>> 
>> The timeline is tight - I think 2nd April is when applications open. It
>> already sounds like the level of interest is high so we need to act quickly
>> if we want to participate.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>> 
>> On 2019/03/12 18:14:54, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty cool.
>>> 
>>> Cc: to Apache Community Development.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 12, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Huxing Zhang  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Google Season of Docs 2019[1] seems to be an interesting project,
 which bring open source project and technical writer communities
 together, just Like Google summer of code.
 
 I think the Dubbo can benefit from the project, especially the English
 version of documentation could be improved.
 
 How do you think?
 
 [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline
 
 --
 Best Regards!
 Huxing
>>> 
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Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-22 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Striving for an ideal is good. Doing away with it entirely feels like giving up 
on it and admitting defeat.

Dinesh

> On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Naomi Slater  wrote:
> 
> I suspect the answer is not to replace the word but to do away with it
> entirely
> 
>> On Fri 22. Mar 2019 at 21:28, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:59 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
 On 3/22/19 3:03 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
 It would be very important to come up with a replacement that is
 as effective as what we're trying to replace. Frankly, I don't know
 a single candidate.
>>> 
>>> As discussed elsewhere in the thread, simply coming up with a new word,
>>> while potentially helpful in starting conversations, doesn't really
>>> address the underlying problem. And each new word (do-ocracy is one that
>>> has been proposed, for example) comes with its own set of concerns and
>>> baggage.
>> 
>> FWIW: the only word I can 100% embrace as a wholesale replacement
>> of meritocracy is do-ocracy.
>> 
>>> We have had the "what other word can we use" conversation at least once
>>> on this mailing list, and at least one on members, in the last 2 years.
>>> Neither conversation resulted in anything actionable.
>> 
>> That's basically my point.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
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Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-28 Thread Dinesh Joshi
> On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Naomi Slater  wrote:
> 
> we were told we had to "prove" we had a diversity problem before people
> would accept it was an issue. so in 2016, we did a committer survey
> 
> it's theee years later you're discounting that data and its implications.
> in the same thread as dismissing a woman who is telling you directly why
> women don't contribute (thus counts as data)
> 
> I hope you will forgive me for believing that requests for more data are
> disingenuous

Is this survey data available somewhere? I am curious to take a look at the 
survey. Did you happen to do a survey of contributors that were not voted in? 
Do we know what the diversity of the contributor base looks like? I was 
unfortunately not privy to the discussions so I'm asking these questions.

Thanks,

Dinesh
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-02 Thread Dinesh Joshi
I am slightly confused here. I believe each ASF project that wishes to 
participate can qualify as an organization. If the whole of ASF were to be 
enrolled as an organization, that would limit the ASF to 1 technical writer. 
Can someone please clarify what the rules are?

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
> 
> If I'm not mistaken rules are:
> one tech writer - 2 mentors
> 
> So I doubt all proposals will be covered
> We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
> get more tech writers
> 
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sharan,
>> 
>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>> 
>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>> 
>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>> 
>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>> documentation project.
>>> 
>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>> setup.
>>> 
>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>> record their ideas.
>>> 
>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative
>> admin
>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>> 
>>> 3. Mentors
>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
>> .
>>> 
>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>> 
>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I
>> have
>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>> Uli about it
>>> 
>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>>> before then :-)
>>> 
>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> Open Source Program Manager
>> 
>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>> 
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>> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-02 Thread Dinesh Joshi
I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I 
hear back.

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aizhamal
> 
> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per 
> organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint 
> not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the 
> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> 
> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to 
> apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers 
> available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is 
> being limited.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy  
> wrote: 
>> Hi Sharan,
>> 
>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>> 
>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>> 
>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>> 
>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>> documentation project.
>>> 
>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>> setup.
>>> 
>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>> record their ideas.
>>> 
>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>> 
>>> 3. Mentors
>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
>>> 
>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>> 
>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>> Uli about it
>>> 
>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>>> before then :-)
>>> 
>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
>> 
>> Open Source Program Manager
>> 
>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>> 
>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
>> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-03 Thread Dinesh Joshi
I heard back. Here’s the exact response -

“I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle 
multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to 
have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”

Thanks,

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
> That's great Dinesh. 
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
>> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi  wrote: 
>> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when 
>> I hear back.
>> 
>> Dinesh
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Aizhamal
>>> 
>>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per 
>>> organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google 
>>> constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there 
>>> is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
>>> 
>>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to 
>>> apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers 
>>> available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it 
>>> is being limited.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
>>>>  wrote: 
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>> 
>>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aizhamal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>>>> documentation project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>>>> setup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>>>> record their ideas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
>>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Mentors
>>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
>>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>>>> Uli about it
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D&I committee discussion call

2019-04-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Hey Griselda,

Could you please add me to the list? I had expressed interest in helping out.

Thanks,

Dinesh

> On Apr 9, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Griselda Cuevas  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, as I mentioned in the diversity@ list [1], the call that I was
> proposing to kick-off the D&I work was cancelled.
> 
> Let's please continue to work around shaping the D&I efforts in the
> diversity@ list.
> 
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1e6204ea874fb75e3794203e09ab37d5a1e70ebbeacbf51533f27fd@%3Cdiversity.apache.org%3E
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 12:53, Griselda Cuevas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Following up the original thread that sparked the creation of a Diversity
>> & Inclusion committee in the ASF [1], I'm coordinating a call/videocall to
>> discuss the proposal details to the board.
>> 
>> *Action by April 5th, 2019 @ midnight PST*
>> If you're interested in being part of the committee and shaping the
>> request to the board, add your availability in this Doodle*:
>> https://doodle.com/poll/52cce5zh77avryri
>> 
>> *If you don't know how to use Doodle, read this:
>> https://help.doodle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012150073
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5b88a314fd28ec3753fd9aa57fdf815fe9f7a64c5f60fb00e2d25bcf@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>> 
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Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Dinesh Joshi
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Shane Curcuru  wrote:
> 
> imagine some ways to recognize corporations, but Rich has a hugely
> important point above: only individuals are recognized as committers,
> PMC members, or ASF Members - never companies.
> 
> So while the corporate linking guidelines above show ways PMCs can
> choose to recognize corporations who help their work by donating
> servers/CI/whatever, we still expect all the core work on our projects
> to be done with individuals using their Apache committer affiliation -
> and not their corporate affiliation.

Some employers actually employ people from the community to work on Open Source 
projects. They should also be recognized.

Regardless, I have a different view on this. It would be a nice for individuals 
to fill in their professional affiliations to help others connect with their 
peers in their organizations. Perhaps this could be displayed in the people 
directory? It is along the lines of allowing individuals to declare their 
location which ASF already allows[1].

Thanks,

Dinesh

[1] http://community.zones.apache.org/map.html


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Gris Cuevas as new PMC member

2019-04-23 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Congrats, Griselda!

> On Apr 23, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is awesome news! Congratulations, Gris! [image: 🎉][image: 🎉][image:
> 🎉]
> 
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:16 AM Joan Touzet  wrote:
> 
>> Welcome, Gris! I don't need to expect great things, because they've
>> already happened.
>> 
>> -Joan
>> 
>> On 2019-04-23 7:26, Myrle Krantz wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Please welcome Gris Cuevas as the newest member of the Community
>>> Development PMC.
>>> 
>>> Gris is helping out representing Apache at various conferences and
>> helping
>>> to make our own conferences a success.  Gris has also offered to help us
>>> with Diversity & Inclusion work and has already made several
>> constructive,
>>> concrete proposals.  She's helping us find the way forward through a
>>> particularly messy and difficult topic.
>>> 
>>> Thank you Gris, for accepting our invitation to continue your awesome
>> work
>>> together with us!  I look forward to continuing to work together with
>> you!
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Myrle Krantz
>>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee

2019-05-05 Thread Dinesh Joshi
+1

Dinesh

> On May 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Nate McCall  wrote:
> 
>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>> 
>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness.  The ComDev PMC
>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>> 
>> Here's my +1.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Myrle
>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>> 
> 
> +1 (non-binding)
> 
> - Nate
> ==
> Vice President, Apache Cassandra
> ASF Member


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Re: [DISCUSS] How about hosting discourse as an alternative way for mailing list?

2023-12-19 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Open an INFRA ticket on Jira. Thats one of the best ways to get answers.

The infra user list doesn’t appear to be private. It requires a subscription 
like most mailing lists to post. See https://infra.apache.org/contact.html


> 
> On Dec 19, 2023, at 5:38 AM, tison  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bowen,
> 
> Thanks for your advice! I want to involve INFRA in the first place,
> but IIRC user@infra.a.o is private.
> 
> Shall we invite INFRA members to this thread, or we start a new thread
> on user@infra.a.o?
> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
>  于2023年12月19日周二 21:28写道:
>>> On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 19:23 +0800, tison wrote:
>>> +cc comdev
>>> Maybe you will be intested in this new type communication.
>> I would encourage you to take this up with Infra. I am certain that
>> this has come up before, and that Infra has already done some research
>> into Discourse, not only in terms of hosting it for projects, but for
>> the Foundation as a whole, and have thoughts about the sustainability
>> of doing this in individual VMs vs some kind of service provider. I
>> don't know what their advice will be, but they are definitely the right
>> folks to ask for that advice.
>>> Xuanwo  于2023年12月19日周二 19:15写道:
> Discourse will provide us an incoming email address. All email
> sent to
> this address will become a post in discourse. We need to add this
> address into the dev@o.a.o's subcriber list.
 This is talking about Discourse SaaS which cost about $100 ($50 if
 we have non-profit discount).
 If we can request a vm from ASF Infra, we will need:
 - VM with 4C8G
 - Postgresql
 - A SMTP account to send mails
 - A domain like discuss.opendal.apache.org
 On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, at 18:55, Xuanwo wrote:
>> Does it need any configuration from the mailing list part,
>> i.e.,
>> involve INFRA setup?
> Discourse will provide us an incoming email address. All email
> sent to
> this address will become a post in discourse. We need to add this
> address into the dev@o.a.o's subcriber list.
> No another setup needed, AFAIK.
> We need some test and demo to make sure everything works as
> expected.
> At the time of writing, I don't know how to do that.
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, at 18:19, tison wrote:
>>> called mailing list mode
>> Does it need any configuration from the mailing list part,
>> i.e.,
>> involve INFRA setup?
>> I don't know how this happen but as long as we have a readable
>> copy on
>> the dev@ mailing list, other integration as view can be OK.
>> Best,
>> tison.
>> Jun Ouyang  于2023年12月19日周二 18:16写道:
>>> Hi xuanwo:
>>> That’s great! I strongly agree with this change. But I have a
>>> concern about
>>> markdown support sync to Maillist, It seems will cause more
>>> bad experiences
>>> for Maillist users.
>>> *GPG public key: 4A6D297E6F74638E4D5F8E99152AC7B5F7608B26*
>>> *Thanks,*
>>> *Jun Ouyang*
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 17:36 Xuanwo 
>>> wrote:
 Hi, all opendal community members
 I'm thinking about hosting discourse as an alternative way
 for mailing
 list.
 Discourse has a feature called mailing list mode. After
 enabling this
 feature, we will sync every post between our mailling list
 and discourse.
 - Users can create/reply to posts created in discourse via
 email.
 - Users can create/reply to posts send by email in
 discourse.
 - Users can search all posts in discourse.
 By adding this new alternative, I can see the following
 benefits:
 - All discussion still happen and archived on mailing list
 (here).
 - Users like mailing list can still uses mailing list
 without any change.
 - Users like forums can use discourse instead.
 - Users don't need to subscribe the email list first before
 asking
 questions.
 - Markdown support, Full-text search support, better
 UI/UX...
 What do you think? Do you want this alternative?
 Xuanwo
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