On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 06:19, Herve Boutemy wrote:
>
> I fully agree on the lack of completeness for projects
> => I'm convinced about the disclaimer at the beginning of
> https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
> no objection at all on it
>
> On PMCs = Committees, I don't get why you say the list may not be
> comprehensive: of course, there may be bugs, but the list of committees is
> not really done by projects, and even less by DOAP files
> Am I wrong, or are you aware of serious issue in our completeness of
> Committees?
See https://lists.apache.org/thread/pxbrn5j6h1jrx8y0wwjxbqk8chmqflf2
The code currently relies on someone creating the PMC RDF files manually.
This could probably be automated, and missing entries are reported to
the site-dev!a.o list:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/449g3ftkrzk4332qktlcqspyrt9ry4kx
>
> The strong before difference of responsibility, accuracy and completeness of
> data between Committees and Projects is a key reason why I want to clarify
> that DOAP is key for Projects, but not for Committees
Indeed, but the index page no longer makes it clear that project data
may be incomplete.
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> (very useful discussion)
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> On 2025/06/04 23:42:23 sebb wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 00:15, Herve Boutemy wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd love to have a PR for better discussion...
> > >
> > > I'll revert if you really feel strong about it
> > > but have this copy/pasted in 2 places is IMHO not the most efficient to
> > > help end users understand committees (foundation data) vs projects (DOAP)
> > >
> > > I just added links behind these 2 terms on the main page to foster focus:
> > > https://projects.apache.org/
> > >
> > > Please confirm if this is ok or if you really want to revert this commit:
> > > I'm not convinced, but I'll add back the copy/paste if you really want
> >
> > As it stands, the page reads as though the site contains a
> > comprehensive list of all PMCs and projects.
> > But that is far from being the case.
> >
> > I think it is vital that the main page of the site is very clear that
> > it depends on projects providing the information, and that it is
> > optional.
> > Not only may information be missing, but it may also be out of date.
> >
> > It may be reworded, but a clear disclaimer needs to be shown so
> > readers are aware.
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > On 2025/06/04 08:57:05 sebb wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 22:59, wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Author: hboutemy
> > > > > Date: Tue Jun 3 21:59:29 2025
> > > > > New Revision: 1926099
> > > > >
> > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1926099&view=rev
> > > > > Log:
> > > > > use no-tlp-doap category to find TLPs with no DOAP
> > > > >
> > > > > Modified:
> > > > > comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/about.html
> > > > > comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html
> > > > > comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/projects.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Modified: comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html
> > > > > URL:
> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html?rev=1926099&r1=1926098&r2=1926099&view=diff
> > > > > ==
> > > > > --- comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html (original)
> > > > > +++ comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html Tue Jun 3
> > > > > 21:59:29 2025
> > > > > @@ -29,9 +29,6 @@
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Please note that the information displayed > > > > href="projects.html">here relies on the DOAP files which > > > > href="committees.html">PMCs are encouraged to provide.
> > > > > - However DOAPs are not mandatory, and not all PMCs have
> > > > > provided a DOAP for all the projects they manage.
> > > > > -
> > > >
> > > > -1
> > > >
> > > > I think that information needs to be retained on the main page.
> > > >
> > > > > Welcome to the Apache Projects Directory
> > > > > This site is a catalog of Apache Software Foundation projects.
> > > > >It is designed to help you find specific projects that meet
> > > > > your interests and to gain a broader understanding of
> > > > >
> > > >
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