Software Licensing Machine Learning

[Rock de Vocht]

Dear ASF,

As a developer I am quite concerned about machine learning being applied to our 
code.  I was wondering if you could perhaps create a new license, like the 
Apache v2 you have, that included clauses like:


  1.
Definitions:


  "Machine learning" shall mean access to this source code by algorithms,
  computer systems, and automatic scraping, for the express purpose of
  automated coding, and improving learning rates of neural networs.

  "Machine Learning Work" shall mean any work or service, whether in
  source, object, or hosted software form.

4. Redistribution


  (e) If this Software is used for Machine Learning Work, then any and
  all parts (including source code, and training data with clear
  instructions on how to replicate your Machine Learning Work)
  of that Machine Learning Work need to be made publicly available
  without any restrictions.



I've added such a modified LICENSE (based on your Apache v2) to my own website 
that includes just these two clauses.

https://peter.nz/LICENSE

However - as I am not trained in law and licensing, I thought the ASF would be 
interested in this and perhaps could suggest taking this forward (in whatever 
form or shape you deem fit).

thanks!

Rock





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Re: Software Licensing Machine Learning

[tison]

We have a similar license with extra clauses case recently where you may
read also [1]

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/7ns8qh3bzd9yct2hzqzbwhvcd6xbwpgh

Best,
tison.


tison  于2025年4月2日周三 19:43写道：

> This seems like a legal discussion where we have a mailing list,
> legal-disc...@apache.org [1], for this kind of topic.
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/legal/#communications
>
> You can bring the topic there and people may reply to your idea.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Rock de Vocht  于2025年4月2日周三 18:24写道：
>
>> Dear ASF,
>>
>> (Apologies if I sent this message twice, there was a misunderstanding on
>> my part about how the email subscription system worked.)
>>
>> As a developer I am quite concerned about machine learning being applied
>> to our code.  I was wondering if you could perhaps create a new license,
>> like the Apache v2 you have, that included clauses like:
>>
>>
>>1. Definitions:
>>
>>
>>   "Machine learning" shall mean access to this source code by algorithms,
>>   computer systems, and automatic scraping, for the express purpose of
>>   automated coding, and improving learning rates of neural networs.
>>
>>   "Machine Learning Work" shall mean any work or service, whether in
>>   source, object, or hosted software form.
>>
>>
>> 4. Redistribution
>>
>>   (e) If this Software is used for Machine Learning Work, then any and
>>   all parts (including source code, and training data with clear
>>   instructions on how to replicate your Machine Learning Work)
>>   of that Machine Learning Work need to be made publicly available
>>   without any restrictions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've added such a modified LICENSE (based on your Apache v2) to my own
>> website that includes just these two clauses.
>>
>> https://peter.nz/LICENSE
>>
>> However - as I am not trained in law and licensing, I thought the ASF
>> would be interested in this and perhaps could suggest taking this forward
>> (in whatever form or shape you deem fit).
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Rock
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> [image: SimSage - Intelligent Information Management]
>>
>> *Rock de Vocht*
>> Chief Science Officer
>> r...@simsage.co.uk
>> +44 (0)7931 467981
>>
>> Intelligent Information Management
>> www.simsage.ai
>>
>> NOTE: The information contained in this email and its attachments is
>> confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. It is intended only
>> for the named addressees and may not be disclosed to anyone else without
>> the prior consent of SimSage (UK) Ltd. If you are not the named addressee
>> you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on the contents
>> of this email and should destroy it immediately.
>>
>>

Software Licensing Machine Learning

[Rock de Vocht]

Dear ASF,

(Apologies if I sent this message twice, there was a misunderstanding on my 
part about how the email subscription system worked.)

As a developer I am quite concerned about machine learning being applied to our 
code.  I was wondering if you could perhaps create a new license, like the 
Apache v2 you have, that included clauses like:


  1.
Definitions:


  "Machine learning" shall mean access to this source code by algorithms,
  computer systems, and automatic scraping, for the express purpose of
  automated coding, and improving learning rates of neural networs.

  "Machine Learning Work" shall mean any work or service, whether in
  source, object, or hosted software form.

4. Redistribution


  (e) If this Software is used for Machine Learning Work, then any and
  all parts (including source code, and training data with clear
  instructions on how to replicate your Machine Learning Work)
  of that Machine Learning Work need to be made publicly available
  without any restrictions.



I've added such a modified LICENSE (based on your Apache v2) to my own website 
that includes just these two clauses.

https://peter.nz/LICENSE

However - as I am not trained in law and licensing, I thought the ASF would be 
interested in this and perhaps could suggest taking this forward (in whatever 
form or shape you deem fit).

thanks!

Rock




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[SimSage - Intelligent Information Management]

Rock de Vocht
Chief Science Officer
r...@simsage.co.uk
+44 (0)7931 467981

Intelligent Information Management
www.simsage.ai

NOTE: The information contained in this email and its attachments is 
confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. It is intended only for 
the named addressees and may not be disclosed to anyone else without the prior 
consent of SimSage (UK) Ltd. If you are not the named addressee you must not 
use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on the contents of this email 
and should destroy it immediately.

Re: Software Licensing Machine Learning

[tison]

This seems like a legal discussion where we have a mailing list,
legal-disc...@apache.org [1], for this kind of topic.

[1] https://www.apache.org/legal/#communications

You can bring the topic there and people may reply to your idea.

Best,
tison.


Rock de Vocht  于2025年4月2日周三 18:24写道：

> Dear ASF,
>
> (Apologies if I sent this message twice, there was a misunderstanding on
> my part about how the email subscription system worked.)
>
> As a developer I am quite concerned about machine learning being applied
> to our code.  I was wondering if you could perhaps create a new license,
> like the Apache v2 you have, that included clauses like:
>
>
>1. Definitions:
>
>
>   "Machine learning" shall mean access to this source code by algorithms,
>   computer systems, and automatic scraping, for the express purpose of
>   automated coding, and improving learning rates of neural networs.
>
>   "Machine Learning Work" shall mean any work or service, whether in
>   source, object, or hosted software form.
>
>
> 4. Redistribution
>
>   (e) If this Software is used for Machine Learning Work, then any and
>   all parts (including source code, and training data with clear
>   instructions on how to replicate your Machine Learning Work)
>   of that Machine Learning Work need to be made publicly available
>   without any restrictions.
>
>
>
> I've added such a modified LICENSE (based on your Apache v2) to my own
> website that includes just these two clauses.
>
> https://peter.nz/LICENSE
>
> However - as I am not trained in law and licensing, I thought the ASF
> would be interested in this and perhaps could suggest taking this forward
> (in whatever form or shape you deem fit).
>
> thanks!
>
> Rock
>
>
>
> ---
>
> [image: SimSage - Intelligent Information Management]
>
> *Rock de Vocht*
> Chief Science Officer
> r...@simsage.co.uk
> +44 (0)7931 467981
>
> Intelligent Information Management
> www.simsage.ai
>
> NOTE: The information contained in this email and its attachments is
> confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. It is intended only
> for the named addressees and may not be disclosed to anyone else without
> the prior consent of SimSage (UK) Ltd. If you are not the named addressee
> you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on the contents
> of this email and should destroy it immediately.
>
>

[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-549) Template "where is everything" template file for projects

[Shane Curcuru (Jira)]

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-549?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17940424#comment-17940424
 ] 

Shane Curcuru commented on COMDEV-549:
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I would LOVE to see this kind of recommendation and data.  It would also be 
useful to expose it as microdata or some other machine-processable data (i.e. 
with various tags in the page source).  But the most important thing would be 
having a semi-consistent way that any human coming to a project's home page 
could know where to find all these bits.

> Template "where is everything" template file for projects
> -
>
> Key: COMDEV-549
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-549
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Task
>  Components: Comdev
>Reporter: Rich Bowen
>Priority: Minor
>
> Create recommended template "where is everything" for projects which answers 
> the basic questions that people have about a project. This includes:
>  * What is it? (What does it do? What problem does it solve? Who is it for?)
>  * Mission statement (Aspirational statement that says what's in scope and 
> what it wants to be when it grows up)
>  * Where is the code?
>  * Where is the *website* source?
>  * Where is the documentation?
>  * Where do we communicate?
>  * Who are we? (List (active?) PMC members)
>  * What is the primary programming language?
> Bonus tasks:
>  * Recommend a "standard" URL where this information should be displayed, so 
> that [project].apache.org/about can be relied on to provide this information
>  * Fill-in form that produces this content in a standard order, in a variety 
> of markup formats



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Reporter.a.o website generation not updating

[Shane Curcuru]

I made a minor text patch to improve the header for the board comment 
area in a project's reporter wizard yesterday, but the reporter.a.o 
website is still showing the old text.


Since the /about.html page noted that changes are reflected immediately, 
I'm curious what went wrong here?


See r1924734 in 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/reporter.apache.org/trunk/site/wizard/js/ 



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