Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Hi, I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. regards, François On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the conference should be held. Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the location: 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot (Community over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference made the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North America). 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so that attendees would run into each other after conference hours. 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably never been to. So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. Thanks, Claude p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to volunteer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Francois, Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, only looking for more data. Claude On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon wrote: > Hi, > > I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, > Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with > others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. > > regards, > > François > > On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: > > There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference > > organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the > > conference should be held. > > > > Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? > > > > The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the > > location: > > > > 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot > (Community > > over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from > > scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference > made > > the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. > > > > 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, > > since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North > > America). > > > > 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so > that > > attendees would run into each other after conference hours. > > > > 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably > > never been to. > > > > So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Claude > > > > p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to > > volunteer? > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since Brexit. Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there for fosdem for a decade or more. Rich On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: > Francois, > > Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to > have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, > only looking for more data. > > Claude > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon < > francois.pa...@openobject.fr> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, > > Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with > > others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. > > > > regards, > > > > François > > > > On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: > > > There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference > > > organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the > > > conference should be held. > > > > > > Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? > > > > > > The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the > > > location: > > > > > > 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot > > (Community > > > over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from > > > scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference > > made > > > the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. > > > > > > 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, > > > since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from > North > > > America). > > > > > > 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so > > that > > > attendees would run into each other after conference hours. > > > > > > 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and > probably > > > never been to. > > > > > > So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care > to > > > volunteer? > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > -- > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren >
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Those larger cities are very attractive and easy to get to, but they are also very expensive, both in terms of venues and also attendee expense (hotels, food). You may want to consider smaller cities such as Lyon, Krakow, or Dusseldorf, which, spending on the city, may be cheaper. Timing will be key, too. Doing an event in June, during high season, is also making things more expensive. BKP Brian Proffitt VP, Marketing & Publicity VP, Conferences On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:22 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since > Brexit. > > Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there > for fosdem for a decade or more. > > Rich > > On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: > > > Francois, > > > > Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to > > have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, > > only looking for more data. > > > > Claude > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon < > > francois.pa...@openobject.fr> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, > > > Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with > > > others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > François > > > > > > On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: > > > > There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference > > > > organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where > the > > > > conference should be held. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? > > > > > > > > The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the > > > > location: > > > > > > > > 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot > > > (Community > > > > over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from > > > > scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 > conference > > > made > > > > the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and > participants. > > > > > > > > 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to > train, > > > > since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from > > North > > > > America). > > > > > > > > 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so > > > that > > > > attendees would run into each other after conference hours. > > > > > > > > 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and > > probably > > > > never been to. > > > > > > > > So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > > > p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. > Care > > to > > > > volunteer? > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren > > >
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
On 3 May 2024, at 13:22, Rich Bowen wrote: > > London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since > Brexit. Very much agreed. It has even become complex and very random for non EU nationals with full eu residency/working permits. With seemingly identical situations or same person second entry yielding different hurdles. So would avoid London until the rules settle and are applied predictively. > Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there > for fosdem for a decade or more. +1 on Brussel. Easy to reach and not as expensive as Paris or Amsterdam. Especially when parliament is in session in Straatsburg and the city is empty. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
I was going to bring up the topic of the prices in different seasons, but Brian covered it. You can consider Portugal too. Lisbon and Porto are good cities to host events and have flight connections to a lot of places. I also live here, so I could assist with something if needed. :P
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Ha yes, I didn't think about Brexit complexity, good point! I also think that Brussels can be a good choice. On 03/05/2024 13:21, Rich Bowen wrote: London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since Brexit. Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there for fosdem for a decade or more. Rich On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: Francois, Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, only looking for more data. Claude On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon < francois.pa...@openobject.fr> wrote: Hi, I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. regards, François On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the conference should be held. Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the location: 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot (Community over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference made the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North America). 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so that attendees would run into each other after conference hours. 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably never been to. So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. Thanks, Claude p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to volunteer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Hi, I have several contacts in Barcelona, especially the guys who are organizing DevBcn (https://www.devbcn.com/). Regards JB On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 11:53 AM Claude Warren wrote: > > Francois, > > Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to have > a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, only > looking for more data. > > Claude > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, >> Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with >> others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. >> >> regards, >> >> François >> >> On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: >> > There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference >> > organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the >> > conference should be held. >> > >> > Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? >> > >> > The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the >> > location: >> > >> > 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot (Community >> > over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from >> > scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference made >> > the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. >> > >> > 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, >> > since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North >> > America). >> > >> > 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so that >> > attendees would run into each other after conference hours. >> > >> > 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably >> > never been to. >> > >> > So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Claude >> > >> > p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to >> > volunteer? >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > > > -- > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Agreed, we need to fit the best between expensive and attractive. About the date, may be Q1 or Q4 are better? regards, François On 03/05/2024 13:58, Brian Proffitt wrote: Those larger cities are very attractive and easy to get to, but they are also very expensive, both in terms of venues and also attendee expense (hotels, food). You may want to consider smaller cities such as Lyon, Krakow, or Dusseldorf, which, spending on the city, may be cheaper. Timing will be key, too. Doing an event in June, during high season, is also making things more expensive. BKP Brian Proffitt VP, Marketing & Publicity VP, Conferences On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:22 AM Rich Bowen wrote: London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since Brexit. Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there for fosdem for a decade or more. Rich On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: Francois, Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, only looking for more data. Claude On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon < francois.pa...@openobject.fr> wrote: Hi, I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. regards, François On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the conference should be held. Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the location: 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot (Community over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference made the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North America). 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so that attendees would run into each other after conference hours. 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably never been to. So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. Thanks, Claude p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to volunteer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Hi, I would also prefer Barcelona or Brussels, depending on the target month. In Brussels, I also have a bunch of contacts, and we can work with Eclipse foundation here. Regards JB On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since > Brexit. > > Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there > for fosdem for a decade or more. > > Rich > > On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: >> >> Francois, >> >> Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to >> have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, >> only looking for more data. >> >> Claude >> >> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, >> > Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with >> > others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > François >> > >> > On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: >> > > There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference >> > > organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the >> > > conference should be held. >> > > >> > > Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? >> > > >> > > The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the >> > > location: >> > > >> > > 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot >> > (Community >> > > over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from >> > > scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference >> > made >> > > the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. >> > > >> > > 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, >> > > since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North >> > > America). >> > > >> > > 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so >> > that >> > > attendees would run into each other after conference hours. >> > > >> > > 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably >> > > never been to. >> > > >> > > So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > Claude >> > > >> > > p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to >> > > volunteer? >> > > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> -- >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
I know Krakow and it's a very nice city but as I remember the airport is not so closed to the center right? On 03/05/2024 13:58, Brian Proffitt wrote: Those larger cities are very attractive and easy to get to, but they are also very expensive, both in terms of venues and also attendee expense (hotels, food). You may want to consider smaller cities such as Lyon, Krakow, or Dusseldorf, which, spending on the city, may be cheaper. Timing will be key, too. Doing an event in June, during high season, is also making things more expensive. BKP Brian Proffitt VP, Marketing & Publicity VP, Conferences On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:22 AM Rich Bowen wrote: London can be a hassle for non citizen EU residents to travel to, since Brexit. Meanwhile many of us are at least familiar with Brussels having gone there for fosdem for a decade or more. Rich On Fri, May 3, 2024, 05:54 Claude Warren wrote: Francois, Do you know of anyone on the ground in any of those cities? It helps to have a local person in place. Not discounting any suggestions just yet, only looking for more data. Claude On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:15 AM Francois Papon < francois.pa...@openobject.fr> wrote: Hi, I think it would be nice to have the event at places like Bruxelles, Paris, Barcelone, Berlin, London... and to see if we can talk with others open source foundation to make a common event like JB mention. regards, François On 03/05/2024 07:36, Claude Warren wrote: There have been several volunteers to participate in the conference organizing committee so perhaps we should start by discussing where the conference should be held. Does anyone have any strong opinions or ideas? The 2024 committee considered the following factors when choosing the location: 1. Production cost (venue rental + services). 2024 was a reboot (Community over Code is not positioned) so we are starting with sponsors from scratch. 2025 is is a slightly better place since the 2024 conference made the European version of C/C visible to some sponsors and participants. 2. Easy to get to by either train or airport (giving priority to train, since we expect most attendees to come from EU and only a few from North America). 3. A city/area where it is easy to walk to nearby restaurants/bars so that attendees would run into each other after conference hours. 4. A nice city that people would be interested in visiting, and probably never been to. So if you have opinions and/or ideas please speak up. Thanks, Claude p.s. We are still looking for a 2025 organizing committee chair. Care to volunteer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [C/C Europe 25] [DISCUSS] Where to hold the conference
Hi. As I said last year: In Brussels I might be able to help for things that would require in-person interaction. Regards, Gilles Le ven. 3 mai 2024 à 14:20, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit : > > Hi, > > I would also prefer Barcelona or Brussels, depending on the target month. > In Brussels, I also have a bunch of contacts, and we can work with > Eclipse foundation here. > > Regards > JB > > > > > [...] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
