[PR] Simplify local testing [comdev-events-site]

2023-10-11 Thread via GitHub


sebbASF opened a new pull request, #9:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-events-site/pull/9

   Add a rule to bypass redirect to https site if the hostname is 
events-site.local


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Re: Approval for project "BoF" get-togethers ?

2023-10-11 Thread rbowen
On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 02:07 -0400, David Smiley wrote:
> Hello ComDev,
> 
> I'm the Apache Solr PMC chair and I have some brading/trademark
> questions
> pertaining to policies around event organization and ASF rules of
> such.
> 
> I've read:
> [1] Policy for Event names using Apache marks:
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#events
> [2] Approval of small Apache-related events:
> https://community.apache.org/events/small-events.html
> 
> Question:
> * At ASF Community-over-Code, if someone organizes a Birds of a
> Feather for
> Solr and it gets onto the event schedule, should it be necessary to
> get the
> Solr PMC's approval beforehand?  Would it matter if the person who
> arranged
> it is a PMC member themselves or not?  Please ultimately explain the
> answer
> with a rationale against the current policy.  It's unclear if the BoF
> *itself* is a "small Apache-related event" or if the fact that it's
> at an
> ASF ticketed conference overrides because then the policy wouldn't
> apply at
> all (nothing is "3rd party").

No, I see no need for that degree of process or overhead. Meetups,
BoFs, local gatherings, are no different than chatting over dinner with
friends, and I would *not* want to require PMC oversight there.

The policy is for when the brand is being used to promote something
publicly and there's a chance of confusion that you are somehow
speaking on behalf of the project. A meetup does not have this kind of
potential for confusion.

> 
> * If such a BoF were to be organized at a non-Apache conference (e.g.
> Berlin Buzzwords), presumably Solr PMC permission is needed as
> specified by
> [2].

Even there, I'd say no. Having a "let's get together to talk about
Solr" gathering at All Things Open, or Open Source Summit, does NOT
require the PMC's approval, or even acknowledgement.

Now, if you're a group of project members making *decisions*, then that
must go back to the mailing list to involve the whole community. But
you already knew that.

> 
> An unclear aspect of the policy is what the "event" is -- is it the
> entire
> conference or could it be the proposed BoF talk as well, even though
> it's
> composed as part of another event?  If we're only looking at the
> BoF/talk
> itself, then would it be "3rd party" if the primary speaker is a PMC
> member?  The text at
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
> (search for "third party") seems to contrast PMC members & committers
> in a
> way to imply they are *not* third party.


Interesting question.

I would never consider a BoF "an event" for the purposes of this
policy. Nor would I consider something arranged on meetups.com or
whatever to be "an event". An event implies marketing, tickets, and so
on.

Yes, it's a fuzzy line, but I am not in favor of creating process that
discourages user meetups.


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Re: Building a chatbot over the ASF community website

2023-10-11 Thread rbowen
On Tue, 2023-10-10 at 20:35 -0300, Enrico Olivelli wrote:
> Hello,
> I am sorry but today at the Lighting talks I wanted to show how to
> build in
> 2 minutes a chatbot that is about to answer to questions about the
> ASF
> community website.
> 
> I didn't know that at the Lightning talks it is possible to show your
> laptop.
> 
> I will put up the demo in a git repo as soon as possible and I will
> share
> it here.
> 
> To run the demo you can you a laptop, and then we can run it on a VM
> somewhere at some point.

Apologies that I did not see this message prior to the event last
night.

By long-standing tradition, we don't do slides at the Lightning Talks,
which is definitely limiting, but also adds to the challenge to make
content engaging in the very short time available.


--Rich



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Re: Approval for project "BoF" get-togethers ?

2023-10-11 Thread Anshum Gupta
I agree with Rich here. Organizing meetups, BoFs, etc. are essential for a
healthy community.

I would like to clarify though, that the meetups should not claim as being
organized "by the PMC" without a prior notification to the PMC (private
list?).



On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 6:40 AM  wrote:

> On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 02:07 -0400, David Smiley wrote:
> > Hello ComDev,
> >
> > I'm the Apache Solr PMC chair and I have some brading/trademark
> > questions
> > pertaining to policies around event organization and ASF rules of
> > such.
> >
> > I've read:
> > [1] Policy for Event names using Apache marks:
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#events
> > [2] Approval of small Apache-related events:
> > https://community.apache.org/events/small-events.html
> >
> > Question:
> > * At ASF Community-over-Code, if someone organizes a Birds of a
> > Feather for
> > Solr and it gets onto the event schedule, should it be necessary to
> > get the
> > Solr PMC's approval beforehand?  Would it matter if the person who
> > arranged
> > it is a PMC member themselves or not?  Please ultimately explain the
> > answer
> > with a rationale against the current policy.  It's unclear if the BoF
> > *itself* is a "small Apache-related event" or if the fact that it's
> > at an
> > ASF ticketed conference overrides because then the policy wouldn't
> > apply at
> > all (nothing is "3rd party").
>
> No, I see no need for that degree of process or overhead. Meetups,
> BoFs, local gatherings, are no different than chatting over dinner with
> friends, and I would *not* want to require PMC oversight there.
>
> The policy is for when the brand is being used to promote something
> publicly and there's a chance of confusion that you are somehow
> speaking on behalf of the project. A meetup does not have this kind of
> potential for confusion.
>
> >
> > * If such a BoF were to be organized at a non-Apache conference (e.g.
> > Berlin Buzzwords), presumably Solr PMC permission is needed as
> > specified by
> > [2].
>
> Even there, I'd say no. Having a "let's get together to talk about
> Solr" gathering at All Things Open, or Open Source Summit, does NOT
> require the PMC's approval, or even acknowledgement.
>
> Now, if you're a group of project members making *decisions*, then that
> must go back to the mailing list to involve the whole community. But
> you already knew that.
>
> >
> > An unclear aspect of the policy is what the "event" is -- is it the
> > entire
> > conference or could it be the proposed BoF talk as well, even though
> > it's
> > composed as part of another event?  If we're only looking at the
> > BoF/talk
> > itself, then would it be "3rd party" if the primary speaker is a PMC
> > member?  The text at
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
> > (search for "third party") seems to contrast PMC members & committers
> > in a
> > way to imply they are *not* third party.
>
>
> Interesting question.
>
> I would never consider a BoF "an event" for the purposes of this
> policy. Nor would I consider something arranged on meetups.com or
> whatever to be "an event". An event implies marketing, tickets, and so
> on.
>
> Yes, it's a fuzzy line, but I am not in favor of creating process that
> discourages user meetups.
>
>
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