Re: Improving Onboarding Experiences - Updating PMC Chair onboarding
I plan to update the email and how-to information we provide to new PMC members. Please comment or make any factual corrections on the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/PMC+Chair+Onboarding+Change+Proposal I'll be working with M&P to see where this fits on the a.o/dev tree. -- - Shane ComDev PMC The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Improving Onboarding Experiences - Updating PMC Chair onboarding
Hi Shane, Thanx for the work, Read it & it is really very helpful!!! Just two minor doubts or confusion: First, > Chairs are responsible for sharing any Board feedback with your PMC Doesn't the feedback come directly to the PMC & anyone from the PMC can answer? Context: There was an email from Rich to all dev lists [1] which read: ``` Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email to your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to respond. The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the project, not just one member. ``` Second, > While any PMC member can handle some PMC updates, in some cases only the > Chair may have permissions to make roster updates. This sounds a little bit incomplete, What are some of those cases? Can we link that as well. Most of the things any member can handle via Whimsy - apache id creation AFAIK -Ayush [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xyfpw41m65wrk3ftds4jtvyzjoxhtx70 On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 00:04, Shane Curcuru wrote: > > I plan to update the email and how-to information we provide to new PMC > members. Please comment or make any factual corrections on the wiki: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/PMC+Chair+Onboarding+Change+Proposal > > I'll be working with M&P to see where this fits on the a.o/dev tree. > > -- > - Shane >ComDev PMC >The Apache Software Foundation > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Improving Onboarding Experiences - Updating PMC Chair onboarding
Hi Shane, Thanks for taking on this task. A couple of comments: 1. Congratulations on being appointed by the board as a project VP and Chair of your PMC! I do not believe that there is a "project VP". There is an ASF VP and a project Chair. So I'd change this to : Congratulations on being appointed by the board as an ASF VP and Chair of your project's PMC! The same text appears in 1) and 2) 2. I believe that since the adoption of these standards, the board created the concept of a Roll Call. While not needed for the welcome-to-new-pmc-chairs, the material linked should be updated to include the concept. 3. In the reporting description of new committers and PMC members: When were the newest committers or PMC members elected? [REQUIRED] The report should specially not name prospective committers or PMC members that are currently being voted or invited but have not accepted. Only committers or PMC members that have been added to the roster should be mentioned. Any in-process candidates should be included in the next report. Regards, Craig > On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:34, Shane Curcuru wrote: > > I plan to update the email and how-to information we provide to new PMC > members. Please comment or make any factual corrections on the wiki: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/PMC+Chair+Onboarding+Change+Proposal > > I'll be working with M&P to see where this fits on the a.o/dev tree. > > -- > - Shane > ComDev PMC > The Apache Software Foundation > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > Craig L Russell c...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org