Re: locale oc-ES
Hi Javier, I am interested to get your feedback or input about something. Though you knew that your question is related to Apache OpenOffice, you've sent your question to this mailing list. May I know whats the reason ?. Your feedback may help us to find out if we need to enhance something on any of our websites. On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 11:49 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Javier, > > You may want to ask on the OpenOffice developer list: > > d...@openoffice.apache.org > > Regards, > >Matthias > > Am 09.01.22 um 23:30 schrieb Javier T: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am a novice programmer and I am working on an Aranese dictionary. I > already have the project running for libreoffice, firefox and thunderbird > but I need to register the Aranese language (oc-ES) in openoffice. Can > someone help me on this? > > > > > https://www.occitans.com/archivos/programas/libreoffice_aranese_last_version.oxt > > > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Noureldin "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: MODERATE for ment...@community.apache.org
Hi Harjout, In addition to what has been suggested by Maxim, I would like your feedback on something. Where on the Apache Community Development website [1] you've that you may need to send an email to mentors@ ?. Your feedback is very valuable to make our websites better. [1] https://community.apache.org On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:50 PM Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > Hello Harjot Singh, > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > I can recommend you to check this page: > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > > Then find the project you would like to participate in here: > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > language#Java > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in JIRA :) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Harjot Singh > To: ment...@community.apache.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 19:03:21 +0530 > Subject: How to get started with open source contribution. > > Respected sir/madam, > > I am Harjot Singh , a computer science undergrad. I am completely new > to open source contributions but I am familiar with C++ , Java and > Data Structures and Algorithms concepts. I would love to contribute to > your organization but could you please tell me how to get started? > > Hoping to hear from you soon. > > Regards > > Harjot Singh > > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Noureldin "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: Regarding open source contribution
Hi Pritam, In addition to what has been suggested by Maxim, I would like your feedback on something. Where on the Apache Community Development website [1] you've that you may need to send an email to mentors@ ?. Your feedback is very valuable to make our websites better. [1] https://community.apache.org On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:48 AM Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > Hello Pritam Basu, > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > I can recommend you to check this page: > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > > Then find the project you would like to participate in here: > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > language#Java > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in JIRA :) > > Please send any additional questions to the dev@community mailing-list > or better to the dev@ list of the particular Apache project you would > like to contribute :) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Pritam Basu > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 21:36:29 +0530 > > Subject: Regarding open source contribution > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > I am a first year undergraduate student who is interested in > contributing to open source. Your organization's work really caught my eye > and since I am interested in C++, one of the technologies you work on, I > would like to start learning more about open source and your work in > particular with the organization. > > Kindly guide me about how I should get started. > > > > Sincerely > > Pritam Basu, > > Birla Institute of Technology and Science, K.K. Birla Goa Campus > > First year student > > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Noureldin "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: Open source
Hi Gunesh, In addition to what has been suggested by Maxim, I would like your feedback on something. Where on the Apache Community Development website [1] you've that you may need to send an email to mentors@ ?. Your feedback is very valuable to make our websites better. [1] https://community.apache.org On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 5:32 AM Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > Hello Gunesh, > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > I can recommend you to check this page: > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > > Then find the project you would like to participate in here: > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > language#Java > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in JIRA [1] :) > > Please send any additional questions to the dev@community mailing-list > or better to the dev@ list of the particular Apache project you would > like to contribute :) > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Gunesh > > To: ment...@community.apache.org > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 16:56:20 +0530 > > Subject: Open source > > Hello Sir/ma'am, > > I am a computer science student. I am new to open source and want to > contribute in open source . I am well aware of C++ only. Hoping to hear > from you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > Gunesh > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Noureldin "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: How to get started with contribution
Hi everyone, I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student seeking GSoC information in the mentors list . I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and mentors list for ASF-wide mentors to advertise projects to potentially interested students, as well as taking general questions about ASF participation in GSoC. If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF Infra, and work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page (< https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 >). Kind regards, Paulo Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb escreveu: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta > wrote: > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of prospective > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly archived so > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June 2013 [2] > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to revive > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > Sebb > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb escreveu: > >> > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta > wrote: > >> > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to dev@community? > >> > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > >> > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not what I > expected. > >> > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > >> > >> > Also > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > >> > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > >> > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow shortest path to > mentors > >> > > > . > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > I wonder why so many students are reaching out to the mentors > list > >> > > asking > >> > > > > for information about GSoC. Perhaps we should create a specific > list > >> > > for > >> > > > > GSoC students or maybe make it more explicit that students > should reach > >> > > > out > >> > > > > to dev@community.apache.org to announce interest in > participating or > >> > > ask > >> > > > > questions about GSoC ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Paulo > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 03:02, Maxim Solodovnik < > >> > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > escreveu: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Suhel, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > >> > > > > > I can recommend you to check this page: > >> > > > > > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Then find the project you would like to participate in here: > >> > > > > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > >> > > > > > language#Java > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in JIRA :) > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Please send any additional questions to the dev@community > >> > > mailing-list > >> > > > > > or better to the dev@ list of the particular Apache project > you > >> > > would > >> > > > > > like to contribute :) > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > >> > > > > > > From: Suhel Kapadia > >> > > > > > > Cc: > >> > > > > > > Bcc: > >> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:58:31 +0530 > >> > > > > > > Subject: How to get started with contribution > >> > > > > > > Respected Sir/Madam, > >> > > > > > > I am Suhel Kapadia, a 2nd year CSE undergrad. > >> > > > > > > I am new to open source contributions but I am well versed > in c and > >> > > > > c++. > >> > > > > > I also have some experience with javascript and python. > >> > > > > > > I would really appreciate it if you could guide me on how > to start > >> > > > > > contributing to your organization > >> > > > > > > Hoping to hear from you soon > >> > > > > > > Regards > >> > > > > > > Suhel. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > Best regards, > >> > > > > > Maxim > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
Tidelift
Hello all, Recently the Logging Services PMC was approached by Tidelift offering to provide monetary support either to the project or individual committers. To obtain that sponsorship the project has to agree to the terms at https://support.tidelift.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406309657876-Lifter-agreement. It appears that Struts has accepted this already. Some PMC members are interested in pursuing this but I am questioning a) whether the agreement conflicts with ASF practices and b) whether the legal agreement is too ambiguous. Two ASF members commented on the Logging Services private list that they had concerns about the agreement. In response to these concerns I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-593. The guidance there seemed to be that payment to the ASF by Tidelift would not be allowed but payment to individuals might be. No guidance on the agreement was provided. It was recommended I post here instead. In looking for more clarification from Tidelift about their agreement and who could receive payment we received this response: Great follow up question, you are spot on. Each of the individuals on the team page could become a lifter and the funds allocated for Log4j would be split between them. Additional pieces of information to add nuance: * For someone to _start_ lifting a project with Tidelift, the verification process involves us looking to official sources for confirmation–such as the team page. After a project is lifted, the verification process ultimately hinges on open communication between us and whichever lifter has been nominated to be the primary contact (in full view of all of the project's lifters so that we know there's shared agreement). * Funds can be split any way you see fit, evenly or otherwise. In most cases, we see an even split. In cases where the funds are directed back to a foundation, 100% of the funds go to the foundation and the share assigned to the lifters is 0%. * This approach has allowed us to decouple any individual project's governance from our own processes, and has proven to be effective in many different contexts. As we grow, it may well be that our processes need to evolve, so that's a conversation that I'm open to as we continue discussing :o) So it is clear to me that Tidelift requires the project as a whole to approve the agreement, even though only select individuals may choose to receive payment, especially since one of the requirements is a public acknowledgment of Tidelift on one of the project’s sites. I find this problematic as I cannot reconcile how it is OK for individuals to receive payment so that the ASF is not officially involved while at the same time the PMC must approve the agreement for individuals to be able to accept payment. Furthermore, I still have no idea whether the terms of the agreement would put a PMC in conflict with ASF policies or whether the ambiguities in the agreement would put the ASF in a bad place. I realize the ASF’s argument would be “We have nothing to do with this” but I suspect that wouldn’t fly since the PMC has to agree to it. To be clear, I have no idea if this is the correct place to discuss this. Personally, I was under the impression that a Legal Jira was where this kind of stuff got resolved. But here I am. Thoughts? Ralph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Tidelift
Hi Ralph, I think there's a fundraising angle to this as well due to the acknowledgement requirement. David Nalley reached out to me with the original Logging PMC thread as something he expected might need us to get involved with. I'll be discussing this at our next fundraising meeting Thursday. I have some similar concerns but I plan on holding those until I've had a chance to discuss with the rest of the fundraising committee. Thanks for raising this. - Bob Paulin ASF VP, Fundraising On 1/11/2022 3:49 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: Hello all, Recently the Logging Services PMC was approached by Tidelift offering to provide monetary support either to the project or individual committers. To obtain that sponsorship the project has to agree to the terms at https://support.tidelift.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406309657876-Lifter-agreement. It appears that Struts has accepted this already. Some PMC members are interested in pursuing this but I am questioning a) whether the agreement conflicts with ASF practices and b) whether the legal agreement is too ambiguous. Two ASF members commented on the Logging Services private list that they had concerns about the agreement. In response to these concerns I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-593. The guidance there seemed to be that payment to the ASF by Tidelift would not be allowed but payment to individuals might be. No guidance on the agreement was provided. It was recommended I post here instead. In looking for more clarification from Tidelift about their agreement and who could receive payment we received this response: Great follow up question, you are spot on. Each of the individuals on the team page could become a lifter and the funds allocated for Log4j would be split between them. Additional pieces of information to add nuance: * For someone to _start_ lifting a project with Tidelift, the verification process involves us looking to official sources for confirmation–such as the team page. After a project is lifted, the verification process ultimately hinges on open communication between us and whichever lifter has been nominated to be the primary contact (in full view of all of the project's lifters so that we know there's shared agreement). * Funds can be split any way you see fit, evenly or otherwise. In most cases, we see an even split. In cases where the funds are directed back to a foundation, 100% of the funds go to the foundation and the share assigned to the lifters is 0%. * This approach has allowed us to decouple any individual project's governance from our own processes, and has proven to be effective in many different contexts. As we grow, it may well be that our processes need to evolve, so that's a conversation that I'm open to as we continue discussing :o) So it is clear to me that Tidelift requires the project as a whole to approve the agreement, even though only select individuals may choose to receive payment, especially since one of the requirements is a public acknowledgment of Tidelift on one of the project’s sites. I find this problematic as I cannot reconcile how it is OK for individuals to receive payment so that the ASF is not officially involved while at the same time the PMC must approve the agreement for individuals to be able to accept payment. Furthermore, I still have no idea whether the terms of the agreement would put a PMC in conflict with ASF policies or whether the ambiguities in the agreement would put the ASF in a bad place. I realize the ASF’s argument would be “We have nothing to do with this” but I suspect that wouldn’t fly since the PMC has to agree to it. To be clear, I have no idea if this is the correct place to discuss this. Personally, I was under the impression that a Legal Jira was where this kind of stuff got resolved. But here I am. Thoughts? Ralph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: How to get started with contribution
Hi, I've followed up on some of these emails that have been sent to mentors@ asking the senders to give us feedback on where on the Apache Community Development website [1] they have found that they need to/should send an email to mentors@. IMHO we better 1st understand that before creating another mailing list. It could be that we only need to rephrase some information on that website or make it more clear where they should go with their questions/inquiries. [1] https://community.apache.org On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM Paulo Motta wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student seeking > GSoC information in the mentors list . > > I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and mentors > list for ASF-wide mentors to advertise > projects > to potentially interested students, as well as taking general questions > about ASF participation in GSoC. > > If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF Infra, and > work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page (< > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 > >). > > Kind regards, > > Paulo > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb escreveu: > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta > > wrote: > > > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of prospective > > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly archived so > > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June 2013 [2] > > > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to revive > > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > > > Sebb > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb > escreveu: > > >> > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to dev@community > ? > > >> > > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > >> > > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not what I > > expected. > > >> > > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > > >> > > >> > Also > > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > > >> > > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > >> > > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow shortest path > to > > mentors > > >> > > > . > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta < > pauloricard...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I wonder why so many students are reaching out to the mentors > > list > > >> > > asking > > >> > > > > for information about GSoC. Perhaps we should create a > specific > > list > > >> > > for > > >> > > > > GSoC students or maybe make it more explicit that students > > should reach > > >> > > > out > > >> > > > > to dev@community.apache.org to announce interest in > > participating or > > >> > > ask > > >> > > > > questions about GSoC ? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Paulo > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 03:02, Maxim Solodovnik < > > >> > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > escreveu: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Suhel, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > > >> > > > > > I can recommend you to check this page: > > >> > > > > > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Then find the project you would like to participate in here: > > >> > > > > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > > >> > > > > > language#Java > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in JIRA :) > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Please send any additional questions to the dev@community > > >> > > mailing-list > > >> > > > > > or better to the dev@ list of the particular Apache project > > you > > >> > > would > > >> > > > > > like to contribute :) > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > >> > > > > > > From: Suhel Kapadia > > >> > > > > > >
Re: How to get started with contribution
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 23:54, Mohammad Noureldin wrote: > > Hi, > > I've followed up on some of these emails that have been sent to mentors@ > asking the senders to give us feedback on where on the Apache Community > Development website [1] they have found that they need to/should send an > email to mentors@. > > IMHO we better 1st understand that before creating another mailing list. It > could be that we only need to rephrase some information on that website or > make it more clear where they should go with their questions/inquiries. Maybe have a single section with all email addresses and what their purpose is. If an email address is mentioned in isolation, the temptation is to just use that without reading the surrounding text carefully. And even if the list does not appear to be quite right, if one has not found any other address then one might assume it is OK to use. When the addresses are listed together, it's much easier to choose the correct list. > [1] https://community.apache.org > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM Paulo Motta > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student seeking > > GSoC information in the mentors list . > > > > I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and mentors > > list for ASF-wide mentors to advertise > > projects > > to potentially interested students, as well as taking general questions > > about ASF participation in GSoC. > > > > If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF Infra, and > > work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page (< > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 > > >). > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb escreveu: > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of prospective > > > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > > > > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly archived so > > > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June 2013 [2] > > > > > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to revive > > > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > > > > > Sebb > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb > > escreveu: > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to dev@community > > ? > > > >> > > > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > >> > > > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > > > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > > > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not what I > > > expected. > > > >> > > > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > > > >> > > > >> > Also > > > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > > > >> > > > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > > > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > >> > > > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > > > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow shortest path > > to > > > mentors > > > >> > > > . > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta < > > pauloricard...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I wonder why so many students are reaching out to the mentors > > > list > > > >> > > asking > > > >> > > > > for information about GSoC. Perhaps we should create a > > specific > > > list > > > >> > > for > > > >> > > > > GSoC students or maybe make it more explicit that students > > > should reach > > > >> > > > out > > > >> > > > > to dev@community.apache.org to announce interest in > > > participating or > > > >> > > ask > > > >> > > > > questions about GSoC ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Paulo > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 03:02, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > >> > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > escreveu: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Suhel, > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students :) > > > >> > > > > > I ca
Re: How to get started with contribution
Hi, sebb, good idea! I will go through the Apache Community Development website, list all emails with when to use and in what context as the content for that section/page. On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:05 AM sebb wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 23:54, Mohammad Noureldin > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've followed up on some of these emails that have been sent to mentors@ > > asking the senders to give us feedback on where on the Apache Community > > Development website [1] they have found that they need to/should send an > > email to mentors@. > > > > IMHO we better 1st understand that before creating another mailing list. > It > > could be that we only need to rephrase some information on that website > or > > make it more clear where they should go with their questions/inquiries. > > Maybe have a single section with all email addresses and what their > purpose is. > > If an email address is mentioned in isolation, the temptation is to > just use that without reading the surrounding text carefully. > And even if the list does not appear to be quite right, if one has not > found any other address then one might assume it is OK to use. > > When the addresses are listed together, it's much easier to choose the > correct list. > > > [1] https://community.apache.org > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM Paulo Motta > > wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student > seeking > > > GSoC information in the mentors list . > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and > mentors > > > list for ASF-wide mentors to advertise > > > projects > > > to potentially interested students, as well as taking general questions > > > about ASF participation in GSoC. > > > > > > If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF Infra, > and > > > work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page (< > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 > > > >). > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb > escreveu: > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of prospective > > > > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > > > > > > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly archived so > > > > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June 2013 [2] > > > > > > > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to revive > > > > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb > > > escreveu: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta < > pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to > dev@community > > > ? > > > > >> > > > > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > >> > > > > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > > > > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > > > > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not what > I > > > > expected. > > > > >> > > > > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > > > > >> > > > > >> > Also > > > > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > > > > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > > > > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow shortest > path > > > to > > > > mentors > > > > >> > > > . > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta < > > > pauloricard...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I wonder why so many students are reaching out to the > mentors > > > > list > > > > >> > > asking > > > > >> > > > > for information about GSoC. Perhaps we should create a > > > specific > > > > list > > > > >> > > for > > > > >> > > > > GSoC students or maybe make it more explicit that students > > > > should reach > > > > >> > > > out > > > > >> >
Re: How to get started with contribution
Hello All, Should I change my semi-automatic-answer? :) Maybe add section or correct some wording? :) On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 08:23, Mohammad Noureldin wrote: > > Hi, > > sebb, good idea! > > I will go through the Apache Community Development website, list all emails > with when to use and in what context as the content for that section/page. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:05 AM sebb wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 23:54, Mohammad Noureldin > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've followed up on some of these emails that have been sent to mentors@ > > > asking the senders to give us feedback on where on the Apache Community > > > Development website [1] they have found that they need to/should send an > > > email to mentors@. > > > > > > IMHO we better 1st understand that before creating another mailing list. > > It > > > could be that we only need to rephrase some information on that website > > or > > > make it more clear where they should go with their questions/inquiries. > > > > Maybe have a single section with all email addresses and what their > > purpose is. > > > > If an email address is mentioned in isolation, the temptation is to > > just use that without reading the surrounding text carefully. > > And even if the list does not appear to be quite right, if one has not > > found any other address then one might assume it is OK to use. > > > > When the addresses are listed together, it's much easier to choose the > > correct list. > > > > > [1] https://community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM Paulo Motta > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student > > seeking > > > > GSoC information in the mentors list . > > > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and > > mentors > > > > list for ASF-wide mentors to advertise > > > > projects > > > > to potentially interested students, as well as taking general questions > > > > about ASF participation in GSoC. > > > > > > > > If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF Infra, > > and > > > > work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page (< > > > > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 > > > > >). > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of prospective > > > > > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > > > > > > > > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly archived so > > > > > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June 2013 [2] > > > > > > > > > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to revive > > > > > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb > > > > escreveu: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta < > > pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to > > dev@community > > > > ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > > > > > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > > > > > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not what > > I > > > > > expected. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Also > > > > > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > > > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > > > > > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > > > > > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow shortest > > path > > > > to > > > > > mentors > > > > > >> > > > . > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta < > > > >
