[VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Oleksandr Petrov
Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.

Repository:
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6

Candidate SHA:
https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
tagged with 0.0.6
Artifact:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/

Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C

Changes since last release:

  * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString

The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote passes
if there are at least three binding +1s.

-- Alex


Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Marcus Eriksson
+1


On 8 October 2020 at 10:20:22, Oleksandr Petrov (oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com) 
wrote:
> Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
> 
> Repository:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
>  
> 
> Candidate SHA:
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
>  
> tagged with 0.0.6
> Artifact:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
>  
> 
> Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
> 
> Changes since last release:
> 
> * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
> 
> The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote passes
> if there are at least three binding +1s.
> 
> -- Alex
> 


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Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Brandon Williams
+1

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 3:20 AM Oleksandr Petrov
 wrote:
>
> Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
>
> Repository:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
>
> Candidate SHA:
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> tagged with 0.0.6
> Artifact:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
>
> Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
>
> Changes since last release:
>
>   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
>
> The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote passes
> if there are at least three binding +1s.
>
> -- Alex

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Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Jordan West
+1

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:25 AM Brandon Williams  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 3:20 AM Oleksandr Petrov
>  wrote:
> >
> > Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
> >
> > Repository:
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
> >
> > Candidate SHA:
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> > tagged with 0.0.6
> > Artifact:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
> >
> > Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
> >
> > Changes since last release:
> >
> >   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
> >
> > The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> > invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote
> passes
> > if there are at least three binding +1s.
> >
> > -- Alex
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Scott Andreas
+1nb


From: Jordan West 
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 7:40 AM
To: dev@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

+1

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:25 AM Brandon Williams  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 3:20 AM Oleksandr Petrov
>  wrote:
> >
> > Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
> >
> > Repository:
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
> >
> > Candidate SHA:
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> > tagged with 0.0.6
> > Artifact:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
> >
> > Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
> >
> > Changes since last release:
> >
> >   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
> >
> > The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> > invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote
> passes
> > if there are at least three binding +1s.
> >
> > -- Alex
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Andrés de la Peña
+1 (nb)

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 17:15, Scott Andreas  wrote:

> +1nb
>
> 
> From: Jordan West 
> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6
>
> +1
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:25 AM Brandon Williams  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 3:20 AM Oleksandr Petrov
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
> > >
> > > Repository:
> > >
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
> > >
> > > Candidate SHA:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> > > tagged with 0.0.6
> > > Artifact:
> > >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
> > >
> > > Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
> > >
> > > Changes since last release:
> > >
> > >   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
> > >
> > > The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build
> is
> > > invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote
> > passes
> > > if there are at least three binding +1s.
> > >
> > > -- Alex
> >
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Request for shepherd on Repair validation

2020-10-08 Thread Joshua McKenzie
I spoke with Blake about
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15580 (new testing and
validation for Repair) - and unfortunately he's not going to have the
cycles to shepherd this validation in the immediate future.

So here's the ask - is there anyone on the project that knows repair fairly
well that has the cycles to step in and shepherd and guide this work?

Thanks!


Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Related JIRA ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15588

Description:

"We've historically had numerous bugs concerning upgrading clusters from
one version to the other. Let's establish the supported upgrade path and
ensure that users can safely perform the upgrades in production."

So the topic of discussion here: what is our supported upgrade path to 4.0?
Is this actually documented on our site or in our documentation? Spent a
few minutes poking around and didn't find anything.

Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?


Re: [DISCUSS] Updating the C* website design

2020-10-08 Thread Melissa Logan
Thanks to those who provided input on the new site layout. #3 was the
winner with some additional comments, which we'll work to integrate.

In tandem with the new website design, page content has been updated and/or
created as new. Input would be greatly appreciated.

The content doc, plus next steps for the site, can be found in the Jira
ticket here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16115.

Thanks!


On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:42 PM Melissa Logan 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> As there were no dissenting votes, based on lazy consensus we have moved
> forward with the project as outlined in CASSANDRA-16115:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16115
>
> If you need a break from 4.0 debugging, would really love folks’ thoughts
> on new design concepts. Elements/colors can be mixed-and-matched. See
> designs here (you have to enter email to view, but it is not retained):
> https://projects.invisionapp.com/freehand/document/7CLfsYoVb?
>
> Please share which you prefer and any comments here:
> https://doodle.com/poll/4yc369baaug5dzw7
>
> Any questions, just let me know. Thanks in advance.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:44 PM Rahul Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> Seems like even Antora uses another SSG called middleman for their
>> “marketing” home page.
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/antora/antora.org
>>
>> If the convenience of having both content and docs all in one SSG for
>> code maintenance is compatible with the aesthetic/ content / taxonomy
>> strategy need for the site visitors, we’ll find out soon enough.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> rahul.xavier.si...@gmail.com
>>
>> http://cassandra.link
>> The Apache Cassandra Knowledge Base.
>> On Aug 21, 2020, 8:54 PM -0400, Rahul Singh , wrote:
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > I applaud the choice of Antora for documentation but I’m not sure it is
>> the best choice for generating an appealing site.
>> >
>> > Antora’s self professed strength is in technical documentation. Do we
>> want to stick to a “documentation” / utility look for the front facing site
>> or for a blog?
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/antora/antora/-/issues/444
>> >
>> > I don’t want to rehash any conclusion on choosing Antora for docs or
>> whether asciidoc is the choice for writing documentation.
>> >
>> > Could we think about using something like Gatsby or similar for the
>> front facing 5-10 pages + blog ? E. G. Skywalking uses vuepress.
>> >
>> > We can use asciidoc as the common format while using Antora for the
>> docs and something else for the rest of the content (
>> https://www.gatsbyjs.com/plugins/gatsby-transformer-asciidoc/)
>> >
>> > Something like Gatsby can use both Markdown and Asciidoc and we can
>> migrate from one to the other while still using the same tooling.
>> >
>> > Just some thoughts would love feedback!
>> >
>> > rahul.xavier.si...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > http://cassandra.link
>> > The Apache Cassandra Knowledge Base.
>> > On Jul 29, 2020, 1:28 PM -0400, M Brandon Williams ,
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > web
>>
>


Re: 4.0 GA scope: the opt-in approach (CALL TO ACTION)

2020-10-08 Thread Caleb Rackliffe
Opted one issue, CASSANDRA-15821, back into 4.0-rc, as it was meant to
complete the documentation for CASSANDRA-15909, which is already resolved.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:27 PM David Capwell 
wrote:

> Updated the link to exclude resolved; down to 27 remaining (was 32)
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20cassandra%20and%20fixversion%20%3D%204.0-triage%20and%20status%20!%3D%20Resolved
>
> > On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Joshua McKenzie 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for taking action on that Scott.
> >
> > Just want to ping the list here as a reminder for everyone: 48 hours to
> go!
> > Reminder: *anything you think is crucial for us to get in before 4.0 GA,
> > please remove the 4.0-triage FixVersion from the tickets by Friday*.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 11:57 PM, Scott Andreas 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you, Josh! Just took a pass and opted in 22 of the 55 tickets with
> >> the triage keyword as of this evening, most of which are active this
> month
> >> or are for flaky/failing tests.
> >>
> >> – Scott
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Joshua McKenzie  Sent: Monday, October 5,
> >> 2020 11:01 AM
> >> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: 4.0 GA scope: the opt-in approach (CALL TO ACTION)
> >>
> >> Friendly reminder: please check the link in the previous email and
> remove
> >> the 4.0-triage version from any tickets you want to keep included in 4.0
> >> GA.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> ~Josh
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 5:58 PM, Joshua McKenzie 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> As discussed on the contributor call, we collectively agreed to try
> >> something new to determine scope for 4.0. Rather than going ticket by
> >> ticket or "asking for forgiveness" and having people move things out
> >> individually, we've flagged all tickets in the 4.0 scope that are still
> >> open with the fixversion '4.0-triage' with the intent to "opt things
> in".
> >>
> >> Link: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/
> >> ?jql=project%20%3D%20cassandra%20and%20fixversion%20%3D%204.0-triage
> >>
> >> If there's a ticket you want to keep in the 4.0 release, please edit the
> >> ticket and remove the '4.0-triage' fixversion. Let's target having this
> >> done by End of Day Friday, October 9th (one week from now).
> >>
> >> If you don't have access to remove that fixver from a ticket, please
> reach
> >> out to me (jmckenzie), Jordan West, or Jon Meredith on the-asf slack in
> >> #cassandra-dev or via DM and we'll help you out.
> >>
> >> At the end of day on Oct 9th, we'll go through and move every ticket
> that
> >> still has 4.0-triage into 4.0.x and have our scope for 4.0 GA.
> >>
> >> Sound good?
> >>
> >> ~Josh
> >>
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Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread David Capwell
Thanks for bringing this up, we really should document this and make sure
the different upgrade paths are clearly documented and have proper coverage.

There was a conversation in slack a while back (started from
https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CK23JSY2K/p1595906733435000) but not
formal or voted on, but the current upgrade targets were 3.0.x and 3.11.x
(do others feel we should support other versions as well and if so what?).

For features, COMPACT STORAGE is getting a lot of attention right now, so
would love to see clarity on how we go from a cluster with COMPACT STORAGE
to 4.0 (is there min version support, what is the upgrade path, what about
deleted rows, etc.).

This is what I know about the current state of 4.0 upgrades at least.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Joshua McKenzie 
wrote:

> Related JIRA ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15588
>
> Description:
>
> "We've historically had numerous bugs concerning upgrading clusters from
> one version to the other. Let's establish the supported upgrade path and
> ensure that users can safely perform the upgrades in production."
>
> So the topic of discussion here: what is our supported upgrade path to 4.0?
> Is this actually documented on our site or in our documentation? Spent a
> few minutes poking around and didn't find anything.
>
> Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?
>


Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Nate McCall
+1

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 9:20 PM Oleksandr Petrov 
wrote:

> Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
>
> Repository:
>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
>
> Candidate SHA:
>
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> tagged with 0.0.6
> Artifact:
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
>
> Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
>
> Changes since last release:
>
>   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
>
> The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote passes
> if there are at least three binding +1s.
>
> -- Alex
>


Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Anthony Grasso
Hi Josh,

This is a really good question. I agree with David about making sure this
is clearly documented.

As far as the supported upgrade path goes, I think we should officially
support only 3.11.x. I do understand the idea of giving users the
flexibility to upgrade from 3.0.x. However, the simpler we can make the
upgrade path the better. As you mentioned, historically there have been
numerous upgrade bugs. To that, having one upgrade path will make
maintenance and support easier.

Kind regards,

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 07:36, David Capwell  wrote:

> Thanks for bringing this up, we really should document this and make sure
> the different upgrade paths are clearly documented and have proper
> coverage.
>
> There was a conversation in slack a while back (started from
> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CK23JSY2K/p1595906733435000) but not
> formal or voted on, but the current upgrade targets were 3.0.x and 3.11.x
> (do others feel we should support other versions as well and if so what?).
>
> For features, COMPACT STORAGE is getting a lot of attention right now, so
> would love to see clarity on how we go from a cluster with COMPACT STORAGE
> to 4.0 (is there min version support, what is the upgrade path, what about
> deleted rows, etc.).
>
> This is what I know about the current state of 4.0 upgrades at least.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Joshua McKenzie 
> wrote:
>
> > Related JIRA ticket:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15588
> >
> > Description:
> >
> > "We've historically had numerous bugs concerning upgrading clusters from
> > one version to the other. Let's establish the supported upgrade path and
> > ensure that users can safely perform the upgrades in production."
> >
> > So the topic of discussion here: what is our supported upgrade path to
> 4.0?
> > Is this actually documented on our site or in our documentation? Spent a
> > few minutes poking around and didn't find anything.
> >
> > Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?
> >
>


Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Jeff Jirsa


I assumed it would be 3.0.x and 3.11.x 

I don’t know why we’d make 3.0-4.0 unofficial/unsupported - there’s no 
technical reason I’ve seen 

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Anthony Grasso  wrote:
> 
> Hi Josh,
> 
> This is a really good question. I agree with David about making sure this
> is clearly documented.
> 
> As far as the supported upgrade path goes, I think we should officially
> support only 3.11.x. I do understand the idea of giving users the
> flexibility to upgrade from 3.0.x. However, the simpler we can make the
> upgrade path the better. As you mentioned, historically there have been
> numerous upgrade bugs. To that, having one upgrade path will make
> maintenance and support easier.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 07:36, David Capwell  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for bringing this up, we really should document this and make sure
>> the different upgrade paths are clearly documented and have proper
>> coverage.
>> 
>> There was a conversation in slack a while back (started from
>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CK23JSY2K/p1595906733435000) but not
>> formal or voted on, but the current upgrade targets were 3.0.x and 3.11.x
>> (do others feel we should support other versions as well and if so what?).
>> 
>> For features, COMPACT STORAGE is getting a lot of attention right now, so
>> would love to see clarity on how we go from a cluster with COMPACT STORAGE
>> to 4.0 (is there min version support, what is the upgrade path, what about
>> deleted rows, etc.).
>> 
>> This is what I know about the current state of 4.0 upgrades at least.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Joshua McKenzie 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Related JIRA ticket:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15588
>>> 
>>> Description:
>>> 
>>> "We've historically had numerous bugs concerning upgrading clusters from
>>> one version to the other. Let's establish the supported upgrade path and
>>> ensure that users can safely perform the upgrades in production."
>>> 
>>> So the topic of discussion here: what is our supported upgrade path to
>> 4.0?
>>> Is this actually documented on our site or in our documentation? Spent a
>>> few minutes poking around and didn't find anything.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?
>>> 
>> 

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Re: [VOTE] Release dtest-api 0.0.6

2020-10-08 Thread Oleksandr Petrov
With 7 +1 votes, and no -1s, the vote passes.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:12 AM Nate McCall  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 9:20 PM Oleksandr Petrov <
> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Proposing the test build of in-jvm dtest API 0.0.6 for release.
> >
> > Repository:
> >
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/0.0.6
> >
> > Candidate SHA:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/commit/9efeb731b6ff4036fa822b0282b27d273975cd6fTT
> > tagged with 0.0.6
> > Artifact:
> >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1220/org/apache/cassandra/dtest-api/0.0.6/
> >
> > Key signature: 9E66CEC6106D578D0B1EB9BFF1000962B7F6840C
> >
> > Changes since last release:
> >
> >   * CASSANDRA-16148: Add IInstance#getReleaseVersionString
> >
> > The vote will be open for 24 hours. Everyone who has tested the build is
> > invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered binding. A vote
> passes
> > if there are at least three binding +1s.
> >
> > -- Alex
> >
>


-- 
alex p


Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Sumanth Pasupuleti
+1 to officially supporting 3.0 to 4.0, in addition to 3.11 to 4.0 upgrade
paths

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 10:33 PM Jeff Jirsa  wrote:

>
> I assumed it would be 3.0.x and 3.11.x
>
> I don’t know why we’d make 3.0-4.0 unofficial/unsupported - there’s no
> technical reason I’ve seen
>
> > On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Anthony Grasso 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > This is a really good question. I agree with David about making sure this
> > is clearly documented.
> >
> > As far as the supported upgrade path goes, I think we should officially
> > support only 3.11.x. I do understand the idea of giving users the
> > flexibility to upgrade from 3.0.x. However, the simpler we can make the
> > upgrade path the better. As you mentioned, historically there have been
> > numerous upgrade bugs. To that, having one upgrade path will make
> > maintenance and support easier.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 07:36, David Capwell  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for bringing this up, we really should document this and make
> sure
> >> the different upgrade paths are clearly documented and have proper
> >> coverage.
> >>
> >> There was a conversation in slack a while back (started from
> >> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CK23JSY2K/p1595906733435000) but not
> >> formal or voted on, but the current upgrade targets were 3.0.x and
> 3.11.x
> >> (do others feel we should support other versions as well and if so
> what?).
> >>
> >> For features, COMPACT STORAGE is getting a lot of attention right now,
> so
> >> would love to see clarity on how we go from a cluster with COMPACT
> STORAGE
> >> to 4.0 (is there min version support, what is the upgrade path, what
> about
> >> deleted rows, etc.).
> >>
> >> This is what I know about the current state of 4.0 upgrades at least.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Joshua McKenzie 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Related JIRA ticket:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15588
> >>>
> >>> Description:
> >>>
> >>> "We've historically had numerous bugs concerning upgrading clusters
> from
> >>> one version to the other. Let's establish the supported upgrade path
> and
> >>> ensure that users can safely perform the upgrades in production."
> >>>
> >>> So the topic of discussion here: what is our supported upgrade path to
> >> 4.0?
> >>> Is this actually documented on our site or in our documentation? Spent
> a
> >>> few minutes poking around and didn't find anything.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?
> >>>
> >>
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Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Erick Ramirez
If a user asked me today, I would tell them to test the following paths
before attempting it in production:
- 2.1.x   --->   2.1.latest   --->   3.11.latest   --->   4.0
- 2.2.x   --->   2.2.latest   --->   3.11.latest   --->   4.0
- 3.0.x   --->   3.0.latest   --->   4.0
- 3.x --->   3.11.latest  --->   4.0

The upgrade paths from 2.1/2.2/3.0/3.x to 3.11 are well-established and
known today although the procedure isn't documented on the Apache website.
I'd be happy to get drafts in if there are no objections. Cheers!


Re: Supported upgrade path for 4.0

2020-10-08 Thread Mick Semb Wever
Anyone have an opinion here or any formal prior art for us to build on?
>


Maybe this question should be more phrased as to which upgrade paths each
individual has time in helping and fixing users out?

If you are voting for official support for the 3.0 upgrade path then that
should imply you are putting up your hand in helping
provide that official support in the community.  (Whatever officially
supported is deemed to be)

I am only for supporting upgrades from latest 3.11. It makes life a lot
simpler for all of us, and helps focus our community time on CEPs and
otherwise maintaining our supported branches.

At The Last Pickle we have always recommended avoiding 3.0, including
upgrading from 2.2 directly to 3.11.

We (now DataStax) will continue to recommend that folk upgrade to the
latest 3.11 before upgrading to 4.0.

regards,
Mick