Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.0.21

[Aleksey Yeshchenko]

+1

> On 14 Jul 2020, at 23:49, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> 
> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 3.0.21 for release.
> 
> sha1: e39d1da325f5853ab3a64d92ecf52f8271239b9e
> Git:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.0.21-tentative
> Maven Artifacts:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1208/org/apache/cassandra/cassandra-all/3.0.21/
> 
> The Source and Build Artifacts, and the Debian and RPM packages and
> repositories, are available here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cassandra/3.0.21/
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed). Everyone who has
> tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered
> binding. A vote passes if there are at least three binding +1s.
> 
> [1]: CHANGES.txt:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/3.0.21-tentative
> [2]: NEWS.txt:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/3.0.21-tentative


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Workshop idea

[Ekaterina Dimitrova]

Hi Nate, all,
I was thinking about a 1 hour online talk on 4.0, new features, testing, etc. I 
guess it can be also recorded and distributed for those who missed the live 
session. Slides also could be added to slide share.
As you mentioned demos, that sounds good to me if people have the time for 
demos to be recorded and distributed.

Best regards,
Ekaterina

> On 27 Jul 2020, at 21:29, Nate McCall  wrote:
> 
> This is a really interesting idea, particularly given that at this point in
> our release cycle previously, there would be demos/roadshows happening at
> meetups etc. that we just cant do these days in most places now.
> 
> What is your thinking on format?
> 
> +1 in general though - that goes for anybody that wants to do something
> like this.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I hope everyone is doing well in these weird pandemic times.
>> 
>> I am super excited to see people already testing 4.0 Beta and coming back
>> with feedback. To me the user experience is one of the most important
>> factors for a successful release.
>> While talking about ApacheCon™ last week, an idea was born. How does the
>> community feel about having a workshop on Cassandra 4.0 in August?
>> Why do I find this idea great?
>> 1) Let’s keep the momentum going and try to get the attention of even more
>> users to start testing.
>> 2) ApacheCon™ is only at the end of September, so we can also use the
>> opportunity to heat up before the conference.
>> There is no plan or anything at this point. Just an idea was born and I am
>> excited to share it with all of you and get some
>> feedback/suggestions/criticism.
>> How does the rest of you feel about it?
>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>> Best regards,
>> Ekaterina
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Workshop idea

[Charles Cao]

+1. Great idea. A virtual meetup, Introduction to Cassandra 4.0, will
help users try and test 4.0.

~Charles

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:26 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova
 wrote:
>
> Hi Nate, all,
> I was thinking about a 1 hour online talk on 4.0, new features, testing, etc. 
> I guess it can be also recorded and distributed for those who missed the live 
> session. Slides also could be added to slide share.
> As you mentioned demos, that sounds good to me if people have the time for 
> demos to be recorded and distributed.
>
> Best regards,
> Ekaterina
>
> > On 27 Jul 2020, at 21:29, Nate McCall  wrote:
> >
> > This is a really interesting idea, particularly given that at this point in
> > our release cycle previously, there would be demos/roadshows happening at
> > meetups etc. that we just cant do these days in most places now.
> >
> > What is your thinking on format?
> >
> > +1 in general though - that goes for anybody that wants to do something
> > like this.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >> I hope everyone is doing well in these weird pandemic times.
> >>
> >> I am super excited to see people already testing 4.0 Beta and coming back
> >> with feedback. To me the user experience is one of the most important
> >> factors for a successful release.
> >> While talking about ApacheCon™ last week, an idea was born. How does the
> >> community feel about having a workshop on Cassandra 4.0 in August?
> >> Why do I find this idea great?
> >> 1) Let’s keep the momentum going and try to get the attention of even more
> >> users to start testing.
> >> 2) ApacheCon™ is only at the end of September, so we can also use the
> >> opportunity to heat up before the conference.
> >> There is no plan or anything at this point. Just an idea was born and I am
> >> excited to share it with all of you and get some
> >> feedback/suggestions/criticism.
> >> How does the rest of you feel about it?
> >> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> >> Best regards,
> >> Ekaterina
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Workshop idea

[Carlos Rolo]

I would love this idea!
I'm currently working on upgrading cluster to 4.0 (testing) and if needed I
can talk about that.

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 5:36 PM Charles Cao  wrote:

> +1. Great idea. A virtual meetup, Introduction to Cassandra 4.0, will
> help users try and test 4.0.
>
> ~Charles
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:26 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nate, all,
> > I was thinking about a 1 hour online talk on 4.0, new features, testing,
> etc. I guess it can be also recorded and distributed for those who missed
> the live session. Slides also could be added to slide share.
> > As you mentioned demos, that sounds good to me if people have the time
> for demos to be recorded and distributed.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ekaterina
> >
> > > On 27 Jul 2020, at 21:29, Nate McCall  wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a really interesting idea, particularly given that at this
> point in
> > > our release cycle previously, there would be demos/roadshows happening
> at
> > > meetups etc. that we just cant do these days in most places now.
> > >
> > > What is your thinking on format?
> > >
> > > +1 in general though - that goes for anybody that wants to do something
> > > like this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova <
> e.dimitr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello everyone,
> > >> I hope everyone is doing well in these weird pandemic times.
> > >>
> > >> I am super excited to see people already testing 4.0 Beta and coming
> back
> > >> with feedback. To me the user experience is one of the most important
> > >> factors for a successful release.
> > >> While talking about ApacheCon™ last week, an idea was born. How does
> the
> > >> community feel about having a workshop on Cassandra 4.0 in August?
> > >> Why do I find this idea great?
> > >> 1) Let’s keep the momentum going and try to get the attention of even
> more
> > >> users to start testing.
> > >> 2) ApacheCon™ is only at the end of September, so we can also use the
> > >> opportunity to heat up before the conference.
> > >> There is no plan or anything at this point. Just an idea was born and
> I am
> > >> excited to share it with all of you and get some
> > >> feedback/suggestions/criticism.
> > >> How does the rest of you feel about it?
> > >> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Ekaterina
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[Discussion] Windows support

[Yuki Morishita]

Hi,

I'd like to raise my concern about Windows support, as we are getting
closer to 4.0 release.

Since the support for JDK11 (CASSANDRA-9608), Windows script to start
Cassandra is broken.
The fix for the script is posted to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA/issues/CASSANDRA-14608.

Windows scripts are not maintained recently, and I don't think we have
any Windows environment in CI for testing.
I don't think it is a good idea to release Apache Cassandra with
broken Windows scripts.

With the latest update of Windows 10, even the Windows 10 Home edition
users can use Docker for Windows if they enable WSL2 in their machine.
However, the update is not yet available for everyone, and I believe
many Enterprises hold onto upgrading to the latest version. Even if
they do so, they can disable WSL2 from using. Some companies may not
allow installing VirtualBox either.

So, what we can do for 4.0 release:

- Stop supporting Windows. Remove every bat/ps1 scripts from the
source and distribution. Encourage Windows users to use VM/Docker.
- Continue supporting Windows. Set up Windows test environment. Test
every Windows scripts for future releases.

Since I saw enterprises with restricted dev environments (and saw
people trying to use cassandra on Windows on StackOverflow), I want to
have Windows scripts ready to be used.
But I'm also fine if we decide to remove all Windows scripts since I
use Docker anyway.

Regards,
Yuki

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