Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.0.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Gary Dusbabek
+1

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Michael Shuler 
wrote:

> I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.0.10.
>
> sha1: 4e0bced5e6a82ebd22b074b8ef96d930c5f3159d
> Git:
> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.0.10-tentative
> Artifacts:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1132/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.0.10/
> Staging repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1132/
>
> The Debian packages are available here: http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
>
> [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/mnmZgI
> [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/F1kAmR
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Gary Dusbabek
+1

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Michael Shuler 
wrote:

> I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.10.
>
> sha1: 072b5271a88328b909b230d0e30df1c7476fdb3f
> Git:
> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.10-tentative
> Artifacts:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1133/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.10/
> Staging repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1133/
>
>
>
> The Debian packages are available here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
>
>
>
> [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/TZa9a7
>
> [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/FSI1a4
>


Re: Moderation

2016-11-09 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 09:01:39AM +, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Because of the way we are structured from an operations point of view or is 
> necessary to have s commit bit to be a PMC member. However, that doesn't mean 
> one needs to commit code.
> 
> A good PMC member looks after the health of the community. They do not 
> necessarily write code. We have foundation members who have never committed a 
> line of code.

See also a recent discussion on this topic here:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b5f8b3475838c2312fcdac8cb8b88e5c2ac1a05e958d106c90a1fc8@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E

https://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html#become-a-committer


Cheers,
Isabel



Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Oleksandr Petrov
-1

Sorry but I have to -1 that one, with the following explanation

One of the features in 3.10 breaks SASI in quite a significant way. The
issue was introduced in #11990 [1] and described in #12877 [2]. If there
are more than 8 items in partition that have same index value, index file
will get corrupted and returned results will be incorrect.

I think we should rather revert the patch and go ahead with a release
without it and change the patch to work correctly, possibly making it's
scope slightly bigger. I am working on a design document for the change.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11990
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12877

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM Gary Dusbabek  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Michael Shuler 
> wrote:
>
> > I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.10.
> >
> > sha1: 072b5271a88328b909b230d0e30df1c7476fdb3f
> > Git:
> > http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> > shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.10-tentative
> > Artifacts:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > orgapachecassandra-1133/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.10/
> > Staging repository:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > orgapachecassandra-1133/
> >
> >
> >
> > The Debian packages are available here:
> > http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
> >
> >
> >
> > The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
> >
> >
> >
> > [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/TZa9a7
> >
> > [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/FSI1a4
> >
>
-- 
Alex Petrov


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
-1 from me too due to #12877. I also agree with Alex's suggestion of
reverting #11990 and re-rolling.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Oleksandr Petrov  wrote:

> -1
>
> Sorry but I have to -1 that one, with the following explanation
>
> One of the features in 3.10 breaks SASI in quite a significant way. The
> issue was introduced in #11990 [1] and described in #12877 [2]. If there
> are more than 8 items in partition that have same index value, index file
> will get corrupted and returned results will be incorrect.
>
> I think we should rather revert the patch and go ahead with a release
> without it and change the patch to work correctly, possibly making it's
> scope slightly bigger. I am working on a design document for the change.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11990
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12877
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM Gary Dusbabek  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Michael Shuler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.10.
> > >
> > > sha1: 072b5271a88328b909b230d0e30df1c7476fdb3f
> > > Git:
> > > http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> > > shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.10-tentative
> > > Artifacts:
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > orgapachecassandra-1133/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.10/
> > > Staging repository:
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > orgapachecassandra-1133/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Debian packages are available here:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/TZa9a7
> > >
> > > [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/FSI1a4
> > >
> >
> --
> Alex Petrov
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.0.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Brandon Williams
+1

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Michael Shuler 
wrote:

> I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.0.10.
>
> sha1: 4e0bced5e6a82ebd22b074b8ef96d930c5f3159d
> Git:
> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.0.10-tentative
> Artifacts:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1132/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.0.10/
> Staging repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachecassandra-1132/
>
> The Debian packages are available here: http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
>
> [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/mnmZgI
> [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/F1kAmR
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Nate McCall
Good catch.

Thanks everyone for speaking up about these.

Changing mine to -1


On Nov 10, 2016 2:44 AM, "Sam Tunnicliffe"  wrote:
>
> -1 from me too due to #12877. I also agree with Alex's suggestion of
> reverting #11990 and re-rolling.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Oleksandr Petrov <
oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > Sorry but I have to -1 that one, with the following explanation
> >
> > One of the features in 3.10 breaks SASI in quite a significant way. The
> > issue was introduced in #11990 [1] and described in #12877 [2]. If there
> > are more than 8 items in partition that have same index value, index
file
> > will get corrupted and returned results will be incorrect.
> >
> > I think we should rather revert the patch and go ahead with a release
> > without it and change the patch to work correctly, possibly making it's
> > scope slightly bigger. I am working on a design document for the change.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11990
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12877
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM Gary Dusbabek 
wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Michael Shuler 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.10.
> > > >
> > > > sha1: 072b5271a88328b909b230d0e30df1c7476fdb3f
> > > > Git:
> > > > http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=
> > > > shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.10-tentative
> > > > Artifacts:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > > orgapachecassandra-1133/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.10/
> > > > Staging repository:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > > orgapachecassandra-1133/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Debian packages are available here:
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]: (CHANGES.txt) https://goo.gl/TZa9a7
> > > >
> > > > [2]: (NEWS.txt) https://goo.gl/FSI1a4
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Alex Petrov
> >


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 3.10 (Take 2)

2016-11-09 Thread Jeff Jirsa
-1 as well, #12877



On 11/9/16, 5:20 AM, "Oleksandr Petrov"  wrote:

>-1
>
>Sorry but I have to -1 that one, with the following explanation
>
>One of the features in 3.10 breaks SASI in quite a significant way. The
>issue was introduced in #11990 [1] and described in #12877 [2]. If there
>are more than 8 items in partition that have same index value, index file
>will get corrupted and returned results will be incorrect.
>
>I think we should rather revert the patch and go ahead with a release
>without it and change the patch to work correctly, possibly making it's
>scope slightly bigger. I am working on a design document for the change.
>
>[1] 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_CASSANDRA-2D11990&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=1LFYHLGHFPYzM7jDJ56_7SKYBJIqpCHsxr0taxZ3nS4&e=
> 
>[2] 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_CASSANDRA-2D12877&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=1YjohT2-dB9Ye9MXGCUpVsGY6Ot1CH9v_PSHPS2eUkE&e=
> 
>
>On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM Gary Dusbabek  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Michael Shuler 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I propose the following artifacts for release as 3.10.
>> >
>> > sha1: 072b5271a88328b909b230d0e30df1c7476fdb3f
>> > Git:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__git-2Dwip-2Dus.apache.org_repos_asf-3Fp-3Dcassandra.git-3Ba-3D&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=Yf3E6uBirmkRTS3IE9xB7oPxz0EpbOc1rdiF9-qei-8&e=
>> >  
>> > shortlog;h=refs/tags/3.10-tentative
>> > Artifacts:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__repository.apache.org_content_repositories_&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=V5SCV7GU7VFuWN4xr05zJpEUaz2FoPWBjlZQRZtLXDE&e=
>> >  
>> > orgapachecassandra-1133/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/3.10/
>> > Staging repository:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__repository.apache.org_content_repositories_&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=V5SCV7GU7VFuWN4xr05zJpEUaz2FoPWBjlZQRZtLXDE&e=
>> >  
>> > orgapachecassandra-1133/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The Debian packages are available here:
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__people.apache.org_-7Emshuler&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=tcexRsY-LYWRWDsXlNurHM0-GsKvwf4CQsz52uGNCcI&e=
>> >  
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]: (CHANGES.txt) 
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__goo.gl_TZa9a7&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=EJsg6DC55Ir-63UXhcs2eTtjm8UwxU13WmDWyoqD62Q&e=
>> >  
>> >
>> > [2]: (NEWS.txt) 
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__goo.gl_FSI1a4&d=DgIBaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kqhAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=ibGDVaeFlUoJ_RF8g3otJoEFCZNVwQ38FDLHoRH2WpE&s=FXC91mnGnVTHsJd3v6wJ2isKVd2PEBH78JUyQtYDVyo&e=
>> >  
>> >
>>
>-- 
>Alex Petrov


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Re: Broader community involvement in 4.0 (WAS Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0)

2016-11-09 Thread Nate McCall
I like the idea of a goal-based approach. I think that would make
coming to a consensus a bit easier particularly if a larger number of
people are involved.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Dikang Gu  wrote:
> My 2 cents. I'm wondering is it a good idea to have some high level goals
> for the major release? For example, the goals could be something like:
> 1. Improve the scalability/reliability/performance by X%.
> 2. Add Y new features (feature A, B, C, D...).
> 3. Fix Z known issues  (issue A, B, C, D...).
>
> I feel If we can have the high level goals, it would be easy to pick the
> jiras to be included in the release.
>
> Does it make sense?
>
> Thanks
> Dikang.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Oleksandr Petrov <
> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently there was another discussion on documentation and comments [1]
>>
>> On one hand, documentation and comments will help newcomers to familiarise
>> themselves with the codebase. On the other - one may get up to speed by
>> reading the code and adding some docs. Such things may require less
>> oversight and can play some role in improving diversity / increasing an
>> amount of involved people.
>>
>> Same thing with tests. There are some areas where tests need some
>> refactoring / improvements, or even just splitting them from one file to
>> multiple. It's a good way to experience the process and get involved into
>> discussion.
>>
>> For that, we could add some issues with subtasks (just a few for starters)
>> or even just a wiki page with a doc/test wishlist where everyone could add
>> a couple of points.
>>
>> Docs and tests could be used in addition to lhf issues, helping people,
>> having comprehensive and quick process and everything else that was
>> mentioned in this thread.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cassandra-dev/201605.mbox/%
>> 3ccakkz8q088ojbvhycyz2_2eotqk4y-svwiwksinpt6rr9pop...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:38 PM Aleksey Yeschenko 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Agreed.
>> >
>> > --
>> > AY
>> >
>> > On 7 November 2016 at 16:38:07, Jeff Jirsa (jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com)
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > ‘Accepted’ JIRA status seems useful, but would encourage something more
>> > explicit like ‘Concept Accepted’ or similar to denote that the concept is
>> > agreed upon, but the actual patch itself may not be accepted yet.
>> >
>> > /bikeshed.
>> >
>> > On 11/7/16, 2:56 AM, "Ben Slater"  wrote:
>> >
>> > >Thanks Dave. The shepherd concept sounds a lot like I had in mind (and a
>> > >better name).
>> > >
>> > >One other thing I noted from the Mesos process - they have an “Accepted”
>> > >jira status that comes after open and means “at least one Mesos
>> developer
>> > >thought that the ideas proposed in the issue are worth pursuing
>> further”.
>> > >Might also be something to consider as part of a process like this?
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >Ben
>> > >
>> > >On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 at 09:37 Dave Lester  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Ben,
>> > >>
>> > >> A few ideas to add to your suggestions [inline]:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2016-11-06 13:51 (-0800), Ben Slater <
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ben.
>> slater-40instaclustr.com&d=DgIFaQ&c=08AGY6txKsvMOP6lYkHQpPMRA1U6kq
>> hAwGa8-0QCg3M&r=yfYEBHVkX6l0zImlOIBID0gmhluYPD5Jje-3CtaT3ow&m=
>> 0Ynrto5MaNdgc2fOUtxv50ouikBU_P7VEv6KNub9Bhk&s=
>> MAZTdq4wfrTiqh7nImEMcFWtTrsixRFOX7Pi0SKqQv0&e=
>> > >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > Hi All,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I thought I would add a couple of observations and suggestions as
>> > someone
>> > >> > who has both personally made my first contributions to the project
>> in
>> > the
>> > >> > last few months and someone in a leadership role in an organisation
>> > >> > (Instaclustr) that is feeling it’s way through increasing our
>> > >> contributions
>> > >> > as an organisation.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Firstly - an observation on contribution experience and what I think
>> > is
>> > >> > likely to make people want to contribute again:
>> > >> > 1) The worst thing that can happen is for your contribution to be
>> > >> > completely ignored.
>> > >> > 2) The second worst thing is for it to be rejected without a good
>> > >> > explanation (that you can learn from) or with hostility.
>> > >> > 3) Having it rejected with a good reason is not a bad thing (you
>> > learn)
>> > >> > 4) Having it accepted is, of course, the best!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > With this as a background I would suggest a couple of thing that
>> help
>> > >> make
>> > >> > sure (3) and (4) are always more common that (1) and (2) (good
>> > outcomes
>> > >> are
>> > >> > probably more common than bad at the moment but we’ve experienced
>> all
>> > >> four
>> > >> > scenarios in the last few months):
>> > >> > 1) I think some process of assigning a committer of a “sponsor” of a
>> > >> change
>> > >> > (which would probably mean committers volunteering) before it
>> > commences
>> > >> > would be useful. You can kind of do this at the moment by creat

[RESULT] [VOTE] Close client-...@cassandra.apache.org mailing list

2016-11-09 Thread Jeff Jirsa

With 8 binding +1s (including myself), 3 non-binding +1, and no -1, the vote 
passes, and we'll work to close out this list.

- Jeff

On 2016-11-06 21:11 (-0800), "Jeff Jirsa" wrote: 
> There exists a nearly unused mailing list, client-...@cassandra.apache.org 
> [0]. 
> 
> This is a summary of the email threads over the past 12 months on that list:
> 
> 1) ApacheCon Seville CFP Close notice
> 2) Datastax .NET driver question 
> 3) Datastax Java driver question
> 4) FOSDEM announce
> 5) ApacheCon NA CFP Open noticed
> 
> In order to avoid confusion, and given the lack of relevant and appropriate 
> traffic, I propose we close the client-dev@ list entirely. Any traffic 
> appropriate for the client-dev@ list would likely be better served if it were 
> directed at dev@, which is more active.
> 
> This vote will remain open for 72 hours. 
> 
> 0: https://lists.apache.org/list.html?client-...@cassandra.apache.org
> 
> 
>