Fwd: [jira] Commented: (CASSANDRA-1997) Cassandra-Maven-Plugin

2011-01-28 Thread Stephen Connolly 
ok this is in a random order.

the maven pmc is having a lot of discussions over the use of the maven mark,
so I am some what aware of things that we have been told...

the plugin is specific to cassandra, so it does not belong at maven.

if the group id is not org.apache.cassandra then it makes the most sense to
host at mojo.codehaus.org as it simplifies user setups

extras is not as good a place

so to host at mojo I need the cassandra pmc to approve mojo's use of tgem
cassandra mark first tgem cassandra maven plugin

I'd prefer it hosted at cassandra, perhaps outsude trunk

- Stephen

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Date: 28 Jan 2011 17:03
Subject: [jira] Commented: (CASSANDRA-1997) Cassandra-Maven-Plugin
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Eric Evans commented on CASSANDRA-1997:
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This looks interesting, and useful, but I'm having a hard time reconciling
the changes in CASSANDRA-1805 (for example, the removal of
{{contrib/javautils}} and {{contrib/circuit}} ) with the addition of this to
{{tools/}}.

I'd be willing to push-back on CASSANDRA-1805, but I'm more and more
inclined to believe it's the right direction.  Projects like
cassandra-maven-plugin target such a specific set of developers/users. I
think they can benefit from the autonomy as much as Cassandra can benefit
from not becoming a monolithic tree of All Things Cassandra.

Stephen, you seemed to indicate elsewhere that your desire to have it
in-tree was to keep it closely associated with the project (i.e. social, not
technical), wouldn't this be an ideal candidate for Apache Extras (
http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/)?

> Cassandra-Maven-Plugin
> --
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-1997
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-1997
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Stephen Connolly
> Attachments: CASSANDRA-1997-v2.patch, CASSANDRA-1997-v3.patch,
cassandra-maven-plugin.0.7.patch, cassandra-maven-plugin.tar.gz
>
>
> A maven plugin to allow controlling a test instance of cassandra from
within maven builds

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[PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Stephen Connolly 
Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997

Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin

+1 Approve
0 don't care
-1 Veto

72 hours

PMC votes only

-Stephen

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Gary Dusbabek 
+1

On Jan 28, 2011 1:07 PM, "Stephen Connolly" 
wrote:

Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997

Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin

+1 Approve
0 don't care
-1 Veto

72 hours

PMC votes only

-Stephen

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Brandon Williams 
+1

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto
>
> 72 hours
>
> PMC votes only
>
> -Stephen
>

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Eric Evans 
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
> 
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin

I don't understand why you'd need permission.  Help me to understand why
this is necessary.  If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.

> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto

I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.

-- 
Eric Evans
eev...@rackspace.com

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread ant elder 
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Stephen Connolly
 wrote:
> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto
>
> 72 hours
>
> PMC votes only
>
> -Stephen
>

-1. This isn't a veto yet but I've read CASSANDRA-1997 and
CASSANDRA-1805 but still have no real understanding of why the
contribution of this maven plugin is being rejected and told to go do
it somewhere out of the ASF. Why isn't this wanted to be developed
here?

   ...ant

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Eric Evans 
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:25 +, ant elder wrote:
> -1. This isn't a veto yet but I've read CASSANDRA-1997 and
> CASSANDRA-1805 but still have no real understanding of why the
> contribution of this maven plugin is being rejected and told to go do
> it somewhere out of the ASF. Why isn't this wanted to be developed
> here? 

It wasn't rejected (vetoed).  I don't feel strongly enough to veto it
outright.

I'm not committing it because to me it seems to fall into the same
category of stuff we're in the process of removing as part of
CASSANDRA-1997, and because I believe CASSANDRA-1997 was opened to solve
a legitimate problem.

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Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Stephen Connolly 
adding shane.

shane, am I being overly cautious or have we more fun here

ps I am only on the maven pmc, so I cannot follow if you jump to
priv...@cassandra.apache.org

- Stephen

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On 28 Jan 2011 19:21, "Eric Evans"  wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>>
>> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
>> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> I don't understand why you'd need permission. Help me to understand why
> this is necessary. If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
> cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.
>
>> +1 Approve
>> 0 don't care
>> -1 Veto
>
> I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> eev...@rackspace.com
>

Re: [VOTE] 0.7.1

2011-01-28 Thread Eric Evans 
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 22:04 -0600, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> We should fix https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2058
> first.  (As of this writing the 0.6 version of the patch has been
> tested, but the 0.7 version has not yet.) 

So we'll count this as a veto and close this vote.

#2058 has since landed in 0.7 so expect a new vote presently.

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Eric Evans
eev...@rackspace.com

[VOTE] 0.7.1 (attempt #2)

2011-01-28 Thread Eric Evans 

CASSANDRA-2058[1] has landed in 0.7, so let's give this another shot.  I
propose the following for release as 0.7.1.

SVN:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cassandra/branches/cassandra-0.7@r1064845
0.7.1 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans

The vote will be open for 72 hours.


[1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2058
[2]: http://goo.gl/5Tafg (CHANGES.txt)
[3]: http://goo.gl/PkreZ (NEWS.txt)

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[VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] 0.6.11

2011-01-28 Thread Eric Evans 
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 12:18 -0600, Eric Evans wrote:
> SVN:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cassandra/branches/cassandra-0.6@r1064231
> 0.6.11 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
> 
> I've been asked to expedite the release process, so if no one is in
> disagreement, we can call this one after 24 hours. 

I count 5 +1s and no -1s; The vote passes.  I'll get everything
published shortly.

Thanks.

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Eric Evans
eev...@rackspace.com

Re: [VOTE] 0.7.1 (attempt #2)

2011-01-28 Thread Stephen Connolly 
I'll drop and restage the artifacts for maven central when I get a chance

- Stephen

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On 28 Jan 2011 20:30, "Eric Evans"  wrote:
>
> CASSANDRA-2058[1] has landed in 0.7, so let's give this another shot. I
> propose the following for release as 0.7.1.
>
> SVN:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cassandra/branches/cassandra-0.7@r1064845
> 0.7.1 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2058
> [2]: http://goo.gl/5Tafg (CHANGES.txt)
> [3]: http://goo.gl/PkreZ (NEWS.txt)
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> eev...@rackspace.com
>
>
>

Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org

2011-01-28 Thread Shane Curcuru 
I'm a little confused.  What specific usage of an Apache mark is being 
requested here?  Any specific permissions granted to use Apache marks to 
refer to third party's goods, including "Cassandra", should include 
tradema...@apache.org on any plans or decisions.


Hopefully PMC members are aware of the Apache Trademark Policy:

  http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

And of the PMC branding requirements:

  http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html


It sounds like there are two issues here (pardon me if I'm missing 
something since I'm not on dev@ or pmc@ here):


- A technical issue with some of Stephen's (or related) code that 
involves a Cassandra-related plugin for Maven.  I can't help on that 
one, sorry.  8-)


- A potential request to use Apache's "Cassandra" trademark to refer to 
software developed outside of the ASF.  This is typically not something 
that is allowed.  As the primary mission of the ASF is to develop 
software for the public good, in general third parties (which would 
include things developed at codehaus) may not use Apache marks to refer 
to their software products, unless they follow the "Powered By" style:


  http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#poweredby

Note that trademarks are most important when referring to software 
products (or services) - so uses of "Cassandra" or "Maven" or the like 
in APIs, classnames, or in many cases module names is not typically an 
issue.   Trademarks are all about how relevant consumers (i.e. your 
users) think of the software that you're providing.


Please let me know on trademarks@ (a privately archived list) if you 
have any questions about branding policy.


- Shane Curcuru
  VP, Brand Management, The Apache Software Foundation

Stephen Connolly wrote:

adding shane.

shane, am I being overly cautious or have we more fun here

ps I am only on the maven pmc, so I cannot follow if you jump to 
priv...@cassandra.apache.org 


- Stephen

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On 28 Jan 2011 19:21, "Eric Evans" > wrote:

 > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +, Stephen Connolly wrote:
 >> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
 >>
 >> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
 >> mojo.codehaus.org  project for the 
Cassandra Maven Plugin

 >
 > I don't understand why you'd need permission. Help me to understand why
 > this is necessary. If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
 > cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.
 >
 >> +1 Approve
 >> 0 don't care
 >> -1 Veto
 >
 > I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.
 >
 > --
 > Eric Evans
 > eev...@rackspace.com 
 >