Unidentified subject!

2011-08-11 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
I'm trying to do a fresh install of 6.0.2.1, but there is a glitch bringing up 
the wireless network on my 1420N Inspiron laptop. It uses the iwl3945 driver:

09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast 
Ethernet 
PCI Express (rev 02)

I boot with with the first i386 CD and it goes through the installer until it 
asks if you need to load firmware from removable storage. At first I just put 
the actually ucode files on a USB stick, but it didn't like that. But after 
putting the iwl firmware deb file, it now installs the modules. At the 
command-line, I can see the iwl3945 module running. I then select the wireless 
interface in the next screen where you pick what network interface to use, 
however it can't see any wireless networks. I try the manual setup, but it 
still 
doesn't see the network. In addition to my protected network some of my 
neighbors have unprotected networks and it can't see them either.

When its loading the modules from the usb stick, I see the wireless LED on my 
laptop flash a few times, but after that it stays off.

I'm not sure what else i can do with it, the install CD doesn't seem to have 
ifconfig or iwconfig. But with lspci I see the device and the correct iwl 
modules are running and I see the iwl ucode files in /usr/lib/firmware.

I have an existing debian install on another harddisk (thats how I'm sending 
this email) and I got around this problem when I installed it by using the 
wired 
ethernet to go through the install and after some rigmarole I don't quite 
remember, I got the wireless to work. But If possible I'd rather install from 
the wireless, as in a lot of situations I might not have access to a wired 
port. 
What can I try? Thanks.


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Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
Sorry, you're right that was the wired interface, I must have cut n pasted the 
wrong line, my wireless is:

0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] 
Network Connection (rev 02)


I'm sorry to hear the installer only supports WEP. That would make it hard for 
anyone without a wired connection.

I did look at the tty with the logging info I don't remember seeing anything 
obvious. I'll try again though.

What seems strange to me is there are two completely unprotected/unencrypted 
wireless networks that I can connect to and browse the net with, but they are 
not detected by the installer. When I manually specify my protected network in 
the installer, it just errors out saying it can't reach it, not that its a 
level 
of encryption not supported, or other specific error. I'll try manually 
specifying one of the unprotected networks next time.

I tried the install again after my original post before getting your reply, and 
the wireless light blinks a lot after the installer finds the iwl firmware deb 
file. Originally I said it only blinked when finding the firmware, but I must 
have just not noticed it. When I specifically watched for it, I see it blinks 
like mad when the installer says it's trying to detect wireless networks. So it 
really seems like its trying.

Thanks.


- Original Message 
From: Camaleón 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 12:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 06:13:12 -0700, gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm trying to do a fresh install of 6.0.2.1, but there is a glitch
> bringing up the wireless network on my 1420N Inspiron laptop. It uses
> the iwl3945 driver:
> 
> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast
> Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)

That's the wired adapter not the wireless one, right? :-?

If you can use this adapter I would definitely go with it. Wifi can be 
flaky for a full installation.

> I boot with with the first i386 CD and it goes through the installer
> until it asks if you need to load firmware from removable storage. At
> first I just put the actually ucode files on a USB stick, but it didn't
> like that. But after putting the iwl firmware deb file, it now installs
> the modules. At the command-line, I can see the iwl3945 module running.
> I then select the wireless interface in the next screen where you pick
> what network interface to use, however it can't see any wireless
> networks. I try the manual setup, but it still doesn't see the network.
> In addition to my protected network some of my neighbors have
> unprotected networks and it can't see them either.

IIRC, the installer only allows WEP encryption, so ensure your AP is 
configured as such if you still want to proceed in that way...

> When its loading the modules from the usb stick, I see the wireless LED
> on my laptop flash a few times, but after that it stays off.
> 
> I'm not sure what else i can do with it, the install CD doesn't seem to
> have ifconfig or iwconfig. But with lspci I see the device and the
> correct iwl modules are running and I see the iwl ucode files in
> /usr/lib/firmware.

(...)

Installation is a complex and delicated task I always take very seriously 
and so try to avoid anything that can complicate things in this stage
(like using a wifi card :-P).

Anyway, to see what's going within the installer on you can jump to tty4 
(if not 4 try with another, I never remember the number).

Greetings,

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Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
I started another install, had the same problem not detecting my WPA network. 
It 
still couldn't detect either of the two unprotected networks, even when I 
specified their ESSIDs.

Pulled from the syslog, here you see it finding the firmware:

Aug 12 20:49:41 check-missing-firmware: missing firmware files 
(iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode) for iwl3945 iwl3945
Aug 12 20:49:55 check-missing-firmware: installing firmware package 
/media/firmware-iwlwifi_0.28_all.deb
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   78.904299] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   78.950751] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 
3945ABG/BG 
Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.26ks
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   78.950754] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel 
Corporation
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   78.950813] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 
17 
(level, low) -> IRQ 17
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   78.950832] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: setting latency 
timer to 64
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.006469] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: Tunable channels: 
11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.006472] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: Detected Intel 
Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.006611] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: irq 29 for 
MSI/MSI-X
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.007201] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 
'iwl-3945-rs'
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.009064] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: firmware: 
requesting iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.012391] iwl3945 :0c:00.0: loaded firmware 
version 15.32.2.9
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.079937] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.080154] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.080305] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX
Aug 12 20:49:56 kernel: [   79.080457] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX
Aug 12 20:49:58 kernel: [   81.003877] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio
Aug 12 20:49:58 kernel: [   81.004125] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc
Aug 12 20:49:58 kernel: [   81.004278] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX
Aug 12 20:49:58 kernel: [   81.004429] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX
Aug 12 20:50:02 kernel: [   85.367923] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio
Aug 12 20:50:02 kernel: [   85.368183] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc

The last 6 lines above repeated at least a dozen times in the syslog.

then later when I'm trying the different networks:

Aug 12 20:54:08 kernel: [  330.522097] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not 
ready
Aug 12 20:54:09 kernel: [  331.595802] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio
Aug 12 20:54:09 kernel: [  331.596049] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc
Aug 12 20:54:09 kernel: [  331.596197] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX
Aug 12 20:54:09 kernel: [  331.596343] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX
Aug 12 20:54:09 kernel: [  331.597972] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not 
ready
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc (v1.17.1) started
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc: has been called with an 
unknown param: leasefail
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Received SIGTERM
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc (v1.17.1) started
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc: has been called with an 
unknown param: leasefail
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc: has been called with an 
unknown param: leasefail
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc: has been called with an 
unknown param: leasefail
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Read error: Network is down, 
reopening socket
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Read error: Network is down, 
reopening socket
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Read error: Network is down, 
reopening socket
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Read error: Network is down, 
reopening socket
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Read error: Network is down, 
reopening socket
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): Sending discover...
Aug 12 20:54:13 main-menu[430]: (process:5459): udhcpc: sendto: Netw

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
It makes me feel a little better if its not just my hardware with this issue. I 
hope wireless support gets improved though, I think with wireless being so 
popular and telco/cable companies being so cheap they'll eventually remove 
wired 
connections from consumer grade routers. Its the sort of win-win that 
corporations love: saving money and reducing consumer choice. The ultimate 
two-fer! Although I like learning technology (and the DFSG lowers the expense 
of 
learning to the cost of the hardware you learn on), I mostly use debian because 
I don't like my communication and security to be at the whim of people who's 
profit model doesn't really take into consideration whether I can communicate 
securely.



- Original Message 
From: Charlie 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 10:16:12 PM
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
"gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com"
suggested this:

>From Camaleón's comment, it sounds like using a wireless network to do
>an install is generally a problem, has anyone had success with a
>wireless install? I'm worried if I ever need to reinstall when I'm not
>in my home, it would not work. I don't know if I could get a wired
>network port away from home.

I have had the experience as what you say Camaleón has mentioned. Never
been able to install from a wireless network straight up. Have used a
wired network to get the basic system that boots up.

Then installed wireless-tools, non free firmware etc.. to try to
connect to a wireless network. Have installed wicd also, usually, to get
wireless recognised by my /etc/network/interfaces entries and then
installed the rest of the packages to complete the system installation.

Without wicd, ifup wlan0 doesn't seem to work. So I leave it on the
system. If it starts up and finds the wireless network I use that
connection, if it doesn't I invoke ifup wlan0 and use that.

It appears, in my case at least, that wireless just isn't as straight
forward as it probably should be in Debian. On a dual boot laptop,
windows XP finds it straight away. Ce la vie. We're using Debian to
learn, not because it's easy, are we?

Hope that helps.
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Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-13 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
Clonezilla looks interesting I wasn't aware of that, thanks

I could also get around the problem by planning ahead and copy a fairly 
complete 
set of deb files from the fully configured system to a memory stick. But that 
method and clonezilla assume you're reinstalling the same release of debian on 
the same hardware.

At one point, I installed the system with only the first CD and accidentally 
didn't configure apt to pull anything from the network. I was ticked that I 
skipped over it because I wasn't paying attention, so I didn't think to check 
if 
it had all the tools to setup wireless networking. I might try that again later 
just see. I blew it away and setup a system using the wired NIC then switched 
to 
wireless later, which didn't require any rigmarole at all. I seem to remember 
it 
being a pain getting the system to automatically use the wireless when I last 
did this (a year or so ago, most likely during lenny's reign), but it worked 
perfectly this time. I'm messing with the 3D acceleration currently. Once I get 
that worked out I'll see if the first CD has enough packages to get the 
wireless 
working.




- Original Message 
From: Lisi 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sat, August 13, 2011 3:21:17 AM
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

On Friday 12 August 2011 22:30:40 gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote:
> From Camaleón's comment, it sounds like using a wireless network to do an
> install is generally a problem, has anyone had success with a wireless
> install? I'm worried if I ever need to reinstall when I'm not in my home,
> it would not work. I don't know if I could get a wired network port away
> from home.

When your system is set up to your satisfaction, take a copy (e.g. with 
Clonezilla).  Then, if you need to reinstall, just reinstall form that.

Lisi


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Re: setting up a static IP address

2011-08-15 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
>All I did at my end to set this up was to change /etc/network/interfaces to

>the following:

>auto lo
>iface lo inet loopback

># The primary network interface
>allow-hotplug eth0
>iface eth0 inet static
>address 10.97.14.253
>netmask 255.255.255.0
>gateway 10.97.14.1

>auto eth0


Have u tried putting the auto eth0 before the lines specifying the static ip?


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Re: Is there a way to tell when a system was first booted?

2011-08-27 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
>i don't know how to say this without sounding like a smart ass, so i'm

>going to sound like a smart ass:
>why does it matter?

lol, but some of us are inordinately nostalgic and sentiMENTAL.

I'd look at the ctimes of some of the main directories like /var, /bin or /usr. 
Most system files reflect when they were created/edited by the developers or 
maintainers, but from looking at a couple of my systems those directories seem 
to get created when the system is installed. In older versions of debian root 
would get an email from the install process and a file or 2 would get created 
in 
/root/, but that doesnt seem to happen anymore.


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intel 3D

2011-09-04 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
On my laptop I have squeeze installed, with 3d/hardware acceleration, but it 
seems not to help much. I'm wondering if there could be something 
mis-configured 
or is this just the best my hardware can do.

It is a dell Inspiron 1420N (came pre-installed with ubuntu 2-3 years ago). 

$lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)

In glxgears I get about 300 FPS with the smallish window it lauches, if I 
maximize the window I get around 100 FPS.

I reduced the color depth to 16 bps after googling for advice, this helped 
some, 
previously with the glx gears window maxmized I got around 60 FPS.

You can see in the glxinfo below, that it recognizes the hardware, but lower 
down you see either "None" or "Slow". Thanks.

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, 
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, 
GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, 
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, 
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, 
GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, 
GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, 
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, 
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_copy_buffer, 
GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_depth_clamp, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, 
GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_fragment_program, 
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, 
GL_ARB_framebuffer_object, GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, 
GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, 
GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, 
GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_provoking_vertex, 
GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map, GL_ARB_shader_objects, 
GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_ARB_shading_language_120, GL_ARB_shadow, 
GL_ARB_sync, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, 
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, 
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, 
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, 
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra, 
GL_ARB_vertex_array_object, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_window_pos, 
GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, 
GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, 
GL_EXT_cull_vertex, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, 
GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_fog_coord, 
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, 
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, 
GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, GL_EXT_point_parameters, 
GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_provoking_vertex, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, 
GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, 
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, 
GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, 
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, 
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, 
GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, 
GL_EXT_texture_swizzle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, 
GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, 
GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object, 
GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, 
GL_ATI_tex

Re: intel 3D

2011-09-05 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
I thought this was the do not buy [insert company name here]'s harddrives 
thread.




- Original Message 
From: Camaleón 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Mon, September 5, 2011 8:04:04 AM
Subject: Re: intel 3D

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:24:39 -0700, gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On my laptop I have squeeze installed, with 3d/hardware acceleration,
> but it seems not to help much. I'm wondering if there could be something
> mis-configured or is this just the best my hardware can do.

(...)

Please, open a new thread for your problem, this is about "Re: more woes 
with my debian install: booting edition".

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