Re: digital camera recommendation?

[Patrick M.]

If you're interested in a cheaper model, the Kodak dx-3500 ($CA 325)
is a good choice. Kodak quality. Jphoto supports it.

But you get what you pay for: no optimcal zoom (3x digital), no action
shot.

It's still a good buy IMHO.

PM, 22

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 04:29:25PM -0700, Henry House wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:10:49PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> > Henry House wrote:
> > 
> > > Can anyone recommend a digital camera for use with Linux? My goals (in no
> > > particular order):
> > > 
> > > * Good image quality
> > > * Uses compact flash (the little wafers, each as large as an air-mail 
> > > stamp)
> > > * Complete Linux compatibility with OSS drivers
> > > * Linux-friendly manufacturer
> > > 
> > > Any experiences that you can share would be helpful to me.
> > 
> > Considering that digital cameras can cost as little as a hundred bucks
> > or so or as much as $5000, you might want to specify the price range
> > you're interested in. Maybe also some technical details like pixel
> > count, whether you want to use external lenses or flash units, and so
> > on.
> 
> Fair enough. I want to spend at most $US 500. I can get the list pf supported
> cameras from the GPhoto website; I suppose what I want to know the most is,
> which companies are Linux-friendly? I want to buy from a company that has
> been forthcoming with specs, has not tried to sue developers, etc.
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Re: hdd change

[Patrick M]

Is there a reason for using 'tar' instead of 'cp'?

PM, 22

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 12:55:32PM -0400, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote:
> 
> Sure, this would be quite easy to do.
> 
> 1. Install the new HDD on a secondary IDE chain, say primary slave, hdb
> 
> 2. Partition the drive the way you want
> 
> 3. Mount the drive up the way it will appear for boot, on say /new
> 
> 4. Run the following command:
> # tar cvpf - / --exclude=new --exclude=proc | tar xvpf - --directory=/new
> 
> 5. Create the proc mount point under /new:  mkdir /new/proc
> 
> That will do an excellent job of duplicating your drive.  Make sure you
> do your bootloader as well, depending on what you use.  You can do other
> excludes on the tar command.  Note the lack of a "/" at the beginning,
> that is on purpose.
> 
> 
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> On 21 Jun 2002, Baan Zoltan wrote:
> 
> > I have a debian box, but i would like to change my hdd to a larger one.
> > Is it possible to copy this debian system to the other hdd, because i
> > don't want to install a new one, and spending so much time to get a
> > configured system like this.
> >
> > Zoltan
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: digital camera recommendation?

[Patrick M]

Means you cant take pictures of moving objects.
Spec sheets indicate 1/8 to 1/1218 seconds of shutter speed.
http://www.kodak.com/global/plugins/acrobat/en/digital/easyShare/dx3500Spec_en.pdf

I'm no camera expert, but having tried it, i can tell you this delay
range is too long. Then again, 320 $CA (200 $US ?) is a very good
price. Depends on your needs / budget.

PM, 22

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 01:54:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 21:53, Patrick M. wrote:
> > If you're interested in a cheaper model, the Kodak dx-3500 ($CA 325)
> > is a good choice. Kodak quality. Jphoto supports it.
> > 
> > But you get what you pay for: no optimcal zoom (3x digital), no action
> > shot.
> 
> What's "action shot"?
> 
> > It's still a good buy IMHO.
> [snip]
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automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

My machine wont power off when shut down from Linux. Yet, it will do
so properly when shut done from Windows.

I tried 2 things:

1- I insmoded APM module, ran apmd, and gave "apm=on" parameter to
the kernel.

2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.

None of them work. I went through the list archives and asked the
folks on #debian irc channel. My motherboard is an Asus CUV4x (fully
ACPI compliant).

You guys have any ideas?

Thanks a lot,


Patrick M., no 22


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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Thanks for your quick answer.

It's not SMP. I have a single Pentium III (Coppermine).

As for the switch, i'm not sure what you mean... If you're referring
to some bios option, i would guess that theyre all right cause it
works on windows...

Any other ideas?


PM, 22


On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 10:13:04PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 01:00:36AM -0400, Patrick M wrote:
> > My machine wont power off when shut down from Linux. Yet, it will do
> > so properly when shut done from Windows.
> > 
> > I tried 2 things:
> > 
> > 1- I insmoded APM module, ran apmd, and gave "apm=on" parameter to
> > the kernel.
> > 
> > 2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.
> > 
> > None of them work. I went through the list archives and asked the
> > folks on #debian irc channel. My motherboard is an Asus CUV4x (fully
> > ACPI compliant).
> 
> SMP MB?  If so, need "power_off" parameter for APM.
> 
> Wrong MB BIOS switch.  ???
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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Tried it, didnt work.
Thanks for your help!

PM, 22

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 10:03:26AM -0700, Mark Lanett wrote:
> Try apm=on,power_off=1
> 
> ~mark
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Osamu Aoki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "debian-user" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: automatic poweroff
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 01:00:36AM -0400, Patrick M wrote:
> > > My machine wont power off when shut down from Linux. Yet, it will do
> > > so properly when shut done from Windows.
> > > 
> > > I tried 2 things:
> > > 
> > > 1- I insmoded APM module, ran apmd, and gave "apm=on" parameter to
> > > the kernel.
> 
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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Indeed, I had not compiled ACPI support with _all_ ACPI options. I
therefore compiled a new kernel with all options selected.

I now notice that:

- Hitting the power button for less than 4 secs wont do anything.
- Hitting the power button for more than 4 secs will poweroff the
machine immediately (poor fs of mine! ;-)
- 'poweroff -p' doesnt poweroff the machine, but gives me, as the last
line on my screen: "hwsleep-0178 [02] Acpi_enter_sleep_state: Entering
S5". At that moment, ctrl-alt-delete wont respond.


Here are the two files in /etc/acpi directory:

===
$ cat /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn 
# /etc/acpid/events/powerbtn
# This is called when the user presses the power button and calls
# /etc/acpid/powerbtn.sh for further processing.

# Optionally you can specify the placeholder %e. It will pass
# through the whole kernel event message to the program you've
# specified.

# We need to react on "button power.*" and "button/power.*" because
# of kernel changes.

event=button[ /]power
action=/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn 
===


===
$ cat /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh 
#!/bin/sh
# /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
# Initiates a shutdown when the power putton has been
# pressed.

/sbin/init 0
===


Thanks again for your help.


PM, 22

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 11:41:33AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> > My machine wont power off when shut down from Linux. Yet, it will do
> > so properly when shut done from Windows.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > 2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.
> 
> You need to compile the kernel with _all_ ACPI options enabled (I only say
> that because I neglected to do that the first time and thought I'd
> enabled ACPI :) and then you need to install acpid which provides some
> utilities which actually talk ACPI with the kernel.
> 
> I now, after exiting X gracefully, just hit the power switch and power
> down cleanly.
> 
> Patrick
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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Eduard,

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 08:41:41AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include 
> Patrick M wrote on Sun Jun 23, 2002 um 01:00:36AM:
> 
> > I tried 2 things:
> 
> First: when you use ACPI kernel, enable ACPI in BIOS. When you use APM
> kernel, enable APM.

I tried both seperatly.

> 
> > 1- I insmoded APM module, ran apmd, and gave "apm=on" parameter to
> > the kernel.
> 
> You may have one of those weird boards that need the
> CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF switch in the kernel setup.

As suggested also by 'Neal', I just tried it... unsuccesfully...

> 
> > 2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.
> 
> What happens, when you press the Power button for a short time? Do you
> see kernel messages then?

With full ACPI support, pressing the power button for a short time doesnt give 
me any kernel message. But could that event be handled differently by the 
scripts located in /etc/acpi/ ?

Once again, here they are:

$ cat /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn
#...
event=button[ /]power
action=/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh

$ cat /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh 
#!/bin/sh
# /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
# Initiates a shutdown when the power putton has been
# pressed.
/sbin/init 0

The file /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh doesnt exist...

We're getting there, I can feel it!! :)
Thanks again for your help,


PM, 22

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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Patrick,

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:55:34PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> > > > 2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.
> > > 
> > > What happens, when you press the Power button for a short time? Do you
> > > see kernel messages then?
> > 
> > With full ACPI support, pressing the power button for a short time
> > doesnt give me any kernel message. But could that event be handled
> > differently by the scripts located in /etc/acpi/ ?
> 
> [...]
> 
> > $ cat /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > # /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
> > # Initiates a shutdown when the power putton has been
> > # pressed.
> > /sbin/init 0
> 
> Are you saying that pressing and briefly holding the power button
> _doesn't_ initiate a shutdown?

Yes, I'm saying that pressing the power button for a short moment has
no visible effect on the machine / os. Keeping it pressed for a
certain moment (>4sec?) powers down the machine instantly.

> 
> Does 'ls /proc/acpi' show all the appropriate files?
> 
> Here's what I see:
> 
> ac_adapter  battery  dsdt   gpe   processor  thermal
> alarm   button   event  info  sleep
> 
> (Some of those are directories.)

Heres what I get:

$ ls /proc/acpi/
alarm  button  dsdt  event  gpe  info  processor  sleep

Could it be that I'm missing a single script which would be called
once all processes are stopped? Do you have a /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
script?

Thanks again,



PM, 22


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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

Yes, acpid is running.
Still, good call! ;)
Thanks,

PM, 22

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 02:35:52PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Patrick M ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020622 22:00]:
> > My machine wont power off when shut down from Linux. Yet, it will do
> > so properly when shut done from Windows.
> > 
> > I tried 2 things:
> > 
> > 1- I insmoded APM module, ran apmd, and gave "apm=on" parameter to
> > the kernel.
> > 
> > 2- I compiled a new kernel with ACPI enabled.
> > 
> > None of them work. I went through the list archives and asked the
> > folks on #debian irc channel. My motherboard is an Asus CUV4x (fully
> > ACPI compliant).
> > 
> > You guys have any ideas?
> 
> Well, I read through the rest of the thread so far and didn't see any
> mention of it, so maybe it's something as simple as 
> 
> # apt-get install acpid
> 
> ?
> 
> good times,
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Re: automatic poweroff

[Patrick M]

First of all, sorry to keep annoying you on this topic, and your help
is greatly appreciated.

As I was experimenting with ACPI, I noticed that on several occasions,
the machine DID poweroff cleanly. After a few kernel compilations and
many poweroffs, I realized that quickly pushing the power button (for
less than 4 secs) did not have any visible effect (no kernel message,
nothing in /var/log/acpid, nothing seen while doing a 'cat
/proc/acpi/event'), _BUT_ it did allow the machine to poweroff cleanly
when doing a 'poweroff -p' afterwards.

In other words, when i press the power button BEFORE doing a 'poweroff
-p', the machine powers down clealy.

When I dont, the same command stops at: "Acpi_enter_sleep_state:
Entering S5". At that moment, the monitor and the machine fans are
still on, but the keyboard wont respond.

The relevant bios settings are:
Power Management:
(x) User define
( ) Disable
( ) Min Saving
( ) Max Saving
Suspend to ram capability:
(x) Enable
( ) Disable

- What would you see as the reason for not seeing any event when
pressing the power button while doing a 'cat /proc/acpi/event'? Is
there a way to monitor acpi events before they enter the
'/proc/acpi/event' file?

- Some docs suggest I should have a '/proc/bus/acpi' directory, which
I dont have. Would that be the problem?

- Could it be a wrongly set bios setting? None explicitely talk about
ACPI though...

- Any ideas? :)

Thank you, once again.


PM, 22

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 06:40:16PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:55:34PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Are you saying that pressing and briefly holding the power button
> > > _doesn't_ initiate a shutdown?
> > 
> > Yes, I'm saying that pressing the power button for a short moment has
> > no visible effect on the machine / os. Keeping it pressed for a
> > certain moment (>4sec?) powers down the machine instantly.
> 
> In other words, it's not shutting down cleanly, so it's not actually doing
> '/sbin/init 0'.
> 
> > > Does 'ls /proc/acpi' show all the appropriate files?
> > > 
> > > Here's what I see:
> > > 
> > > ac_adapter  battery  dsdt   gpe   processor  thermal
> > > alarm   button   event  info  sleep
> > > 
> > > (Some of those are directories.)
> > 
> > Heres what I get:
> > 
> > $ ls /proc/acpi/
> > alarm  button  dsdt  event  gpe  info  processor  sleep
> > 
> > Could it be that I'm missing a single script which would be called
> > once all processes are stopped? Do you have a /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
> > script?
> 
> No, I have the very same powerbtn.sh as you, and it's called when I
> initiate the power-button 'event'.
> 
> At this point, I'm not sure what to suggest.  I don't remember (this has
> been going on for a while :) whether you indicated what kind of machine
> we're talking about.  Is there a BIOS setting not set?  You _do_ have an
> ACPI-compliant BIOS?  I know, I'm just grasping at straws at this point.
> 
> Sorry,
> 
> Patrick
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Re: automatic poweroff - PROBLEM SOLVED

[Patrick M]

Aw right... Here it is:

I patched the 2.4.18 kernel with the latest acpi driver found at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi/ .

Just for the record... I have a Asus CUV4x VT694Z motherboard with
bios revision 1010 beta 002.


Thanks a lot!!


PM, 22
ps. Anyone with the same board could chip in on this?


On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 06:40:16PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:55:34PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Patrick M wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Are you saying that pressing and briefly holding the power button
> > > _doesn't_ initiate a shutdown?
> > 
> > Yes, I'm saying that pressing the power button for a short moment has
> > no visible effect on the machine / os. Keeping it pressed for a
> > certain moment (>4sec?) powers down the machine instantly.
> 
> In other words, it's not shutting down cleanly, so it's not actually doing
> '/sbin/init 0'.
> 
> > > Does 'ls /proc/acpi' show all the appropriate files?
> > > 
> > > Here's what I see:
> > > 
> > > ac_adapter  battery  dsdt   gpe   processor  thermal
> > > alarm   button   event  info  sleep
> > > 
> > > (Some of those are directories.)
> > 
> > Heres what I get:
> > 
> > $ ls /proc/acpi/
> > alarm  button  dsdt  event  gpe  info  processor  sleep
> > 
> > Could it be that I'm missing a single script which would be called
> > once all processes are stopped? Do you have a /etc/acpi/poweroff.sh
> > script?
> 
> No, I have the very same powerbtn.sh as you, and it's called when I
> initiate the power-button 'event'.
> 
> At this point, I'm not sure what to suggest.  I don't remember (this has
> been going on for a while :) whether you indicated what kind of machine
> we're talking about.  Is there a BIOS setting not set?  You _do_ have an
> ACPI-compliant BIOS?  I know, I'm just grasping at straws at this point.
> 
> Sorry,
> 
> Patrick
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using plotter HP7470A

[Patrick M]

Once again, I seek for your help.

I recently put my hands on a HP 7470A plotter for a few bucks... It's
supposed to read HPGL file format. I therefore downloaded pdtoedit file
converter, got myself an HPGL file, and did:

# cat ./example.hpgl > /dev/lp0

And nothing happens. Is there a cups driver available somewhere I
didn't look? Has anyone used this device? Any inputs?

Thanks,

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Re: Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Patrick M]

Before starting X:
# /etc/init.d/gpm stop

PM, 22


On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:33:02PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang wrote:
> The machine is Dell stock, which came with RedHat 6.2 pre-installed. It has 
> been running well for > 2 years. I decided to try Debian on it.
> 
> The installation completed with an apparent successful XFree86 configuration.
> Upon reboot, X starts up fine, and the Debian splash screen is displayed with 
> some initial icons. But the mouse cursor freezes, appears and disappears, 
> moves irratically, and mouse clicks have random delayed effects. Needless to 
> say, it is not usable.
> 
> The mouse is PS/2. I have the standard "Pointer" section:
> 
> Protocal "PS/2"
> Device "/dev/psaux"
> 
> I am running twm, xdm and gnome.
> 
> I have re-run XF86Setup many times, each time, the mouse works fine within 
> XF86Setup. So maybe it's a problem with twm, etc.?
> 
> Very late on a Friday, would appreciate some hint. Otherwise I'll have to 
> abandon Debian, and go to RedHat 7.2, which is running fine on another 
> machine with a PS/2.
> 
> Elaine
> 
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1.2 MB rescue disk

[Patrick M. Ferraro]

The PC I am installing Linux on can only accept a 5 1/4" 1.2 MB as drive A:.  I
can not find the file: resq1200.bin on your  FTP site.  Please let me know where
I can find that file or how else I can create a Linux installation "Rescue"
disk.  My E-mail address is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks

Pat F.


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